Anybody Got Any Women To Talk About

[Kiltboy1]

Man

All this Political crap has got me really bored. I have real websites with real journalists i can look at if i want to talk about this crap. LET'S GET BACK TO THE GIRLS , STORIES, TRIP REPORTS, ECT
and leave the reporting to the experts.

[Joeylikey]

... in response to Anybody Got Any Women To Talk About, posted by Kiltboy1 on Dec 16, 2005

My wife, who lives in Cali, will be arriving shortly. Were both very excited. Your right. Enough of politics. Unless she is cute, then maybe.

[WS244]

... in response to Anybody Got Any Women To Talk About, posted by Kiltboy1 on Dec 16, 2005

Politics is the reason this board exists, and why gringos are going south for women.  There are no "real journalists" today as in the past.  The "real journalists" of today expound their own view of the news instead of reporting it, all the while furthering their own self promoting careers, as in their "best selling" autobiography in ones local bookstore.  

I just left the Palatino mall in north Bogota a few minutes ago where they are celebrating for the next 9 days "Novena" before Christmas.  They do this in all the malls, along with nativity scenes, merry christmas signs, etc.  Go past the Hacienda Santa Barbara mall in Bogota at nightime and one will see public Christmas displays not seen in the states for 40 years. Or go by parke 93.

Good luck in seeing this in politically correct U.S.of A.

Women are women, whether in Moscow, St petersburg, Caracas, Rome, Paris, Manila, Bangkok, Osaka.  In the end it is all about politics, and how  politics has changed the way men out of political correctness and equality laws of the U.S are forced to deal with women.  Politics is why that demure hot looking young Colombian chiquita eating out of ones hand in Colombia, upon arrival in the U.S. not long after, has one instead rather eating out of her hand.  Politics is everything whether in culture or political correctness, women are women, and many gringos will never get along with any woman.      

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Anybody Got Any Women To Talk About, posted by WS244 on Dec 16, 2005

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You write "Go past the Hacienda Santa Barbara mall in Bogota at nightime and one will see public Christmas displays not seen in the states for 40 years." Oh, really. I guess you don't count the nativity scene which sits on the lawn of the Bandera County Courthouse in Bandera, Texas this year just as it has every year. It must be great to know everything.

You, like so many gringos, see relations between men and women as some kind of battle in which either you or she must prevail. I wonder what kind of relationship this leads to with an endless struggle for power. I don't eat out of my wife's hand and she doesn't eat out of mine.

[EbonyPrince]

... in response to What are you talking about?, posted by utopiacowboy on Dec 17, 2005

I think that WS244 is a little strong and opinionated in his delivery, but I understand what he is saying.  

I will admit that I try to be politically correct in everything I do, because I feel that it affords a better understanding amongst various people.  The biggest problem that we have in this world is intolerance. The separation of church and state is so that you don't have the same crap that you have in places like Iran or Iraq, where everyone is forced to live the same way regardless of their beliefs.  Religion and beliefs are probably the biggest causes for murder, racism, and violence in history of this world. That is why secular people, which I don't consider myself that, believe in the separation of church and state and certain freedoms for all people.

As far a men and women go, there is a fundamental problem among the sexes.  That problem is there because of the way our children have been raised, and I am probably just as guilty in my own domain.  Children will imitate what they see especially in the people closest to them.  They will also learn from their experience.  In our society men and women are always portrayed as enemies, and that will be the way future generations will be raised.  It is unfortunate.  Respect and understanding begins in the home whether it is between brothers and sisters, opposite races or opposite sexes.

Regarding the latin women coming here.  Women are women all over the world.  If a woman becomes a bitch by being in our country, she was a bitch to begin with.  A person doesn't change overnight.  That is why it is key to place a person, man or women, in the most diverse situation that you can get them in to learn about their true character. Like a friend of mine says "Your drunkeness is your soberness".  Place a person in their most negative of situations and the way they act is the way they truly are.

[WS244]

... in response to Re: What are you talking about?, posted by EbonyPrince on Dec 17, 2005

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Well after "5 years" with the same Colombia girl, an apartment in north Bogota, though i do not live here permanently, I have a pretty good insight to these peoples way of thinking.  Though most posters have either never been here, or have spent limited time here, Colombia though somewhat frustrating to a gringo due to the "mas tarde" nature, is really a nice place to spend time in.  There is class structure here as anywhere else, but in general people all get along.  One will find people in general much more polite, particularly the young ones.  There are no reserved parking slots for the disabled, tort laws almost non existant, you can get a hamburger medium or rare, the food is fresher, health insurance next to nothing, good doctors, good hospitals, malls as clean or cleaner than in the states, and for the older posters Colombia has a civilty (excluding the FARC) much like the states 50 years ago.    

Though some posters on this board just want a young chiquita to show on a pedestal, there are others who still believe in a traditional marriage, though once the norm in the states, is still the norm in Colombia as in  (The man is head of the household and makes the final decisions) If a man wants a traditional marriage, there are endless numbers of really nice Colombian women who would be happy just to be ones wife in life.  If a man wants a woman to run his marriage, or does not believe in a traditional marriage, than it is a waste of time and money coming to Colombia when there are endless numbers of AW's who fit todays nontraditional politically correct mold.

Also for every woman here with a kid, there are 2 more just as good looking and intelligent without a kid.  As mostly Catholic, they do not believe in abortions down here, and these women in many cases were never married, and many of them advertise in the agencies. Unless one really wants a kid, I suggest one stay away.  Having married an AW many years ago with a 15 month old baby, and then having two boys between us, I tell young men from personal experience to find a woman without one, as for every success story there are 10 which were not. A woman with a kid is like playing the slots.      

Though I am somewhat dubious about agencies, they do provide a service and help open the door.  If one takes reasonable care in dealing with them, and before going in is thinking chevrolet, but once with an agency only shown cadillacs, then buyer beware.

Of course for those others who just want to come here and play, well there are endless numbers of them for that also.

[EbonyPrince]

... in response to Re: Re: What are you talking about???..., posted by WS244 on Dec 17, 2005

Sign me up for the traditional woman!!!

Well put...we need to talk.  I like candid advice and experience...

[WS244]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What are you talking about??..., posted by EbonyPrince on Dec 18, 2005

EB,
PM me if you like and will be happy to answer questions
ws

[EbonyPrince]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What are you talking abo..., posted by WS244 on Dec 19, 2005

Is it okay to contact your posted email address?

I welcome the opportunity to get insight from someone in the know!!!

[fathertime]

... in response to Re: Re: What are you talking about???..., posted by WS244 on Dec 17, 2005

Your perspective is always an interesting one although I am curious why specifically you have labeled a woman with a child as "Playing the slots".  My belief is child or no child it is still "Playing the slots".  I am not yet disagreeing with you but since I will be seeing a woman in January with a young child I am curious as to your reasoning.  Perhaps there is some signal or sign you are aware of that I am oblivious to that can help me make a more enlightened decision.

I will be driving a big old truck from Texas to Arizona over the next few days so I will respond if needed after the 22nd.

Thanks
Fathertime

[WS244]

... in response to The Slots?, posted by fathertime on Dec 18, 2005

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FT,
Well as you have kids, i assume they are living with you, you must in the past found it somewhat difficult to find AW women running to your doorstep wanting to be your wife, if you did in fact go that route to begin with.
Many foreign women think the same. You have responsibility in life with the children you already have, and i would think at your age they are still quite young, which means many more of your dollars as they continue to grow.  If you marry a foreign girl, to invest her in to your family may be difficult for her, and your kids with her vice versa.  If she has a child, this may well just add further difficulities.  While being an optimist is great, the realities of life are still around the corner.  If the marriage fails and she has no kid, it is difficult enough, but with a kid and she bails, it will cost you more, and may hurt your own kids emotionaly and financially besides.  If you are divorced your kids have already been through one difficult period of time i assume.

If your employment is with a government enity, or work in a large corporation where it is almost impossible to be fired unless one commits a felony, then no matter what happens you will still have a steady paycheck.  If you are like most people however, self employed, work in a small business etc. well then financial issues have to be much more considered in the equation besides ones personal desires.  

These Colombian women want opportunity, and a one way ticket to the states is a good place to start.  (no different than the thousands of mexicans crossing the border)  The word love has as many meanings as food, and is in the eye of the beholder.  This word to a woman means security, and to a
man means anything that a woman can convince him of, for in the end she  wants the benefits and security the marriage will provide.

[EbonyPrince]

... in response to The Slots?, posted by fathertime on Dec 18, 2005

My take is that he is saying that if you can have your choice of attractive women, why choose one with a child?

You don't know what you are going to get with a woman with a child.  Is she really interested in you or taking care of her child.  With a child there is always someone in the mix which interferes with your relationship.  Check out the thread that gives advantages and disadvantages of each.

I am not judging...I have two beautiful daughters from a previous marriage.  I am still involved in their life.  Me and their mothers relationship only existed as far as them.  We didn't spend anytime on each other.  When a women first has a child, and I am sure many husbands can attest, the woman's focus is towards the child.  With a latina with child, you will be on the outside looking in.  Now you latina could be totally different, but how do you know?  Hence the slots reference.  The child just adds another dynamic that you don't have with a childless woman.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: The Slots?, posted by EbonyPrince on Dec 18, 2005

I read these posts on PL and some of you guys sound like you're shopping for a new big screen TV at Best Buy.

[WS244]

... in response to What are you talking about?, posted by utopiacowboy on Dec 17, 2005

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Bandera is the cowboy capital of Texas, known for many years for their "dude ranches".  Bandera is out in the "sticks" where anglos are still anglos,  mexicans are still mexicans, and Bandera's athiests keep their political correctness thinking to themselves.

The original post was in response that politics has everything to do with gringos going to Colombia for women, etc.  Many posters on this board having returned to the states with their Colombian brides, found themselves at the "short end of the stick" and divorced. The States due to political correctness laws, has made the man and the woman equal in all aspects in life,(in the legal system she has more rights) which new foreign brides learn rather quickly.  Any man bringing a foreign bride here needs to understand once here, his demure little chiquita may not remain demure for long. Other posters having spent time in Colombia or living here will tell any gringo to take ones time with a women from here.  Unfortuneately the agencies put out a lot of nonsense, and one needs to equate agencies the same as the marketing people for MacDonalds, good sales pitches but lousy hamburgers.    

The majority of Colombians are Catholic.  Anyone spending time in Colombia (whether one is religious or not) knows Colombian families follow the teachings of the Church, (ie.the Bible, Koran says the same) whereby the woman is "head of the household", and the man as head of the family,  makes the final decisions pertaining to the family.  If a man wants his wife to have a 50/50 marriage that is his business in a policicallly correct society, but contrary to the teachings of the bible.  This is also the reason why the secularists are trying to do away with the teaching of any religion, for then everyone and everything is equal in life.

[CelticUrge]

... in response to Anybody Got Any Women To Talk About, posted by Kiltboy1 on Dec 16, 2005

Yeh, I've got two from Bogota for a four day weekend. My ex and her best friend. My head is already about to explode. Why don't you come pick them up and give me a few days rest. Just a thought!

Warning! These two together are a major handful. They can both out talk that guy from the old FedEx advertisements! No kidding!