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Ray
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« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Arguing with facts, posted by Bob S on Nov 2, 2005

:-)
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doombug
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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Wait just a minute..., posted by CelticUrge on Nov 2, 2005

"Is it necessary for me to act as an academic researcher for each and every post to insure complete and total accuracy, send to my peers for review and make the necessary changes?"

No offense, but one of the most common war-related figures known to Americans is the casualty count of Vietnam.  

Roughly 58,000.

In many cases, if you open a conversation with that number alone, people will know instantly what you are referring to.

Aside from that, it takes a minute or two to do very simple stat/source checks on the Net before posting something as authoritative.  No one has to BE a "Researcher" to reference a researcher.  I think this is why blogs are so "in" now.  People have come to realize that their own personal comments/opinons on a subject don't hold much sway (or receive fair responses) if they're devoid of "linked" sources.  Blogs help the opinionated refine facts and keep people (even big media) on their toes.

Regarding oil:  A few days ago I "Wish Listed" a book by Dr. Thomas Gold at Amazon.com titled, "The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels".  A review of the book has been floating all over the Net, and here is a short snippet of one (the original includes an interview with the author):

"Thomas Gold contends, based on long study, that oil, natural gas and coal are not so-called 'fossil fuels'."

"Instead, according to Dr. Gold, these resources are constantly being manufactured within the Earth by natural processes that are little understood and which point toward new, relatively unexplored realms in science."

http://www.americanfreepress.net/RFA_Articles/Natural_Gas__Oil_Occur_Natural/natural_gas__oil_occur_natural.html

As far as war goes, if you're in doubt to its necessity, check out this reminder of why it'll be around for at least a few more decades.  It's a resource of all of the world's terrorist groups.  Note how many of them are of Islamic bent:

http://www.tkb.org/Home.jsp

A few days ago, I found an article on Drudge reporting world conflicts to be in decline.  The U.N. published it few weeks ago, and I even ran across it in my local newspaper:

"A study issued Monday paints a surprising picture of war and peace in the 21st century: Armed conflicts have declined by more than 40 percent since 1992, and genocide and human rights abuses have plummeted around the world.

"The only form of political violence that appears to be getting worse is international terrorism - a serious threat that nonetheless kills extraordinarily few people per year compared to wars, it said

"'Over the past dozen years, the global security climate has changed in dramatic, positive, but largely unheralded ways,' the report said. 'Civil wars, genocides and international crises have all declined sharply.'

"Professor Andrew Mack, who directed the three-year study, said there has been a shift away from the huge wars of the 1950s, '60s and '70s where million-strong armies faced each other with conventional weapons.

"'The average number of battle-deaths per conflict per year - the best measure of the deadliness of warfare - has been falling dramatically but unevenly since the 1950s,' it said.

"In 1950, the worst year, the average war killed 37,000 people directly, Mack said. 'By 2002, it was 600 - an extraordinary change.'"


I know.  I have too much free time on my hands.

Peace, yo!

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Wait just a minute..., posted by doombug on Nov 2, 2005

I appreciate the info. You do have too much free time on your hand.

I'm under a lot of time pressure yesterday and today. Use this as a diversion for ironing out an issue, etc. Must prepare to leave town early AM.

I thank both you guys for the info but it appears to me, on the basis of what you find important about my own post, that you MAY have completely missed the entire point of it. The minutia was not the issue at hand or the point. I hope that was not the case.

Regards.

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Hoda
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« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Unpopular Subject, posted by CelticUrge on Nov 1, 2005


There's something in your post for everyone....

Good looking out....Hoda

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Thanks much Bro...., posted by Hoda on Nov 1, 2005

de nada senor...

I'll be leaving today for out of state business trip for 7-10 days. Little to no internet and email access during this particular trip, which is not the norm for me.

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wizard
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« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Unpopular Subject, posted by CelticUrge on Nov 1, 2005

Unpopular subject = facts of life in the 21st century...

I gave up tilting at windmills years ago... Along with the outrage that goes along with the knowledge that we are all just cogs in the machine... It has always been and will always be a fact that the top 1/4 of 1% of the population in the US pulls the strings... Regardless of race, creed, color, religious background or sexual preference... Political, corporate and social corruption permeate the very fiber of civilization as we know it today... Yes, voting is our say in the matter, but does the final outcome of an election matter when the next bunch of bureaucrats that enter office are swayed by the smell of $$$...

True, the US and EU are the bastions of economic bliss, providing the greatest opportunity for "success" by most people's standards, but at what cost...

I agree with the final thoughts of the author... It's better to simply extract yourself from the insanity, find a little corner of the earth to enjoy your golden years and let the rat-race take care of itself... Yes Georgia, ignorance is bliss...

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An Unpopular Subject, posted by wizard on Nov 1, 2005

"just cogs in the machine"

Mel Brooks' "Blazing Sadles" where Mongo makes the obseration "Mongo is but little cog in great wheel of life"

"does the final outcome of an election matter"

Never seems to IMO. What changes?

"let the rat-race take care of itself"

Mad Magazine some years ago had a one page story about a couple getting tired of watching the race. The final drawing showed rats running upright, wearing tank tops with their respective race numbers. My mind, like all others I suppose, is cluttered with these things!

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FanMan
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« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Unpopular Subject, posted by CelticUrge on Nov 1, 2005

I concur with you on a most of the items, well written and from the heart. I too,love the country that I was fortunate enough to be born, but there are times that I just get sick of the "politics as usual" that goes on from the local level to the federal level. Having lost a family member (22 year old 1st cousin) in the war "against terrorism" as it is now called, I am very pissed off at the fact that my relative, may have died in vain, considering the current issues/state of affairs in D.C., and the White House in general. I have traveled before to Europe a few times and to the Caribbean, and I have yet to find a better country for a young person,irregardless of nationality to succeed and prosper in other than the USA. We have to take the good with the bad,warts and all. Though I can agree with you, on your last paragraph, about being your in senior years and perhaps, just taking a permanent sabbatical to somewhere, you know nothing about. That sounds like the plan indeed.
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Ricardo
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« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Unpopular Subject, posted by CelticUrge on Nov 1, 2005

Excellent post.  Interesting your perspective on living in another country.... not speaking (i imagine you mean not speaking it very well, although you'd have to have a basic understanding) the native language, being 'ignorant' about the social ills, politics, etc - that it is better than knowing and being frustrated about the inequities, deceit, corruption, waste,etc., germane to the world of politics.  I had never thought about it that way - who ever said 'ignorance is bliss'.  I think that many of us, irrespective of which country we live in are for the majority of the time frustrated with how the 'system' works and doesn't work.  It's hard to accept that some things may never change or change in our lifetimes.  Thanks again...
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