To Okie and others. (long)

[Calipro]

... in response to The real reason Oakie left Planet-Love....., posted by teoblas on Oct 15, 2005

I'll include the answer to the body hair question for the $1000.

And I'll tell you how to get the answer for free.

Just ask a couple of caleñas what they prefer.

[Snoopy]

... in response to The real reason Oakie left Planet-Love....., posted by teoblas on Oct 15, 2005


My question then becomes: What is the limit amount of hair(s)*** a gringo may have before the  Latina Hair Police issues the gringo a hairy citation???

*** BTW, I have 3,719,012 body hairs. Should I start looking for a bald lawyer???

[sacajundude]

... in response to To Okie and others. (long), posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

All I can say is wow... Do you think your ego and self-worth could be a little grandiose??..jajajaja

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: To Okie and others. (long), posted by sacajundude on Oct 15, 2005

I can't be the only experianced traveler to cali that reads these sad stories about how all the women in Cali are scammers and the agency owners are cooks and wonder just what the in the hell these guys are doing wrong.

[thundernco]

... in response to What?, posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

Nope, you're not alone. -TNC

[soltero]

... in response to Re: To Okie and others. (long), posted by sacajundude on Oct 15, 2005

Listen to the guy. He is doing it. When you are telling it from what you have experienced, then the ego is experience and not lip flapping. That's what I meant about guys parking their own egos.

[sacajundude]

... in response to To Okie and others. (long), posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

All I can say is wos... Do you think your ego and self-worth could be a little grandiose??..jajajaja

[mudd]

... in response to To Okie and others. (long), posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

Sounded a little ridiculous when I read it, but after remembering some of the guys I have seen go to agencies, with no clue as how to act, dress or even the basics of manners, you just might be on to something here. I think it would be money well spent, as long as they were meeting the right girls and not the party girls and meeting girls within their league. Homer from Missouri chasing Sofia Vergera isnt going to work.

[CelticUrge]

... in response to Re: To Okie and others. (long), posted by mudd on Oct 15, 2005

I agree that he is on to something. I have seen quite a few men at the agencies that would have been far better off using some other knowledgeable guy like CP for assistance. In the end they would save a lot of money and get better results. It seems many can't focus on what is within their own league and realm of possibility for success.

Some of the other responses refer to "check your ego at the door" and could not be more accurate. However, most can't even acknowledge they have the ego problem to begin with. Not everyone is like this obviously, but you never have to go far to find one.

Sometimes change is good. First recognize there is a need for change. Second, put it into play. Then go back and try again.

[Red Clay]

... in response to To Okie and others. (long), posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

I used to give Okie the benefit of the doubt for a long time, until recently. Most of his questions are indeed to be answered within himself. On one hand, I think more trips south might help him. OTOH, more trips might further confuse him if he is always going to depend on someone else to help him decide how to proceed. I can picture him being taken by the wrong agency owner(s) who "saw him coming". Actually I believe that you and he represent two different motives for meeting/dating Latinas, and I chuckled a little when you said that he wrote to you for advice, but I agree that maybe extreme sarcasm is needed to make your point. Or maybe he is changing the way he thinks, more like you do.

[papi]

... in response to Re: To Okie and others. (long), posted by Red Clay on Oct 15, 2005

One thing guys don’t seem to talk about much here if at all is the post trip.  Okie came home thinking he had a relationship (afterall, she did sleep with him the last night), yet it fizzled out when he got home.  It can happen when we get back and in worse cases sometimes when they arrive here (honey, I am going to the store – in other words, adios gringo).  Hot citas are fine and dandy but returning from the trip and keeping it going is where the rubber hits the pavement. Ending up home empty handed is no fun but I hope he tries again

[soltero]

... in response to To Okie and others. (long), posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

[This message has been edited by soltero]

Calipro, I would like to be the first to congratulate you on this excellent post. This one should be printed out by every guy that is under the misconception that talking about it will lead to success in doing it. I don't know whether you are serious or not about you new business idea, but there are actually guys that may be in need of your services. If they check their misguided egos, you might be able to help them. Personally, I wouldn't want you anywhere around my girl(smile)! Just kidding...

For all you guys sitting at home asking other guys how you should be around women, don't get offended, but stay at home! If you haven't found that out before you got out of high school, you are in over your head. Be yourself and find who and what works for you. If nothing is working, find out why and change if you want to, don't if you don't. No other guy is going to be able to place a magic pill in your hand for you to swallow. Calipro's idea might work for the hopelessly inept, but just like AA, admit that you are and give in to "Dating Counseling".

This stuff is too good to be true! You just can't make this up...JAJAJA

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: To Okie and others. (long), posted by soltero on Oct 15, 2005

No in all seriousness if a guy was sincere, I would help him out for grand and I would be doing him a favor.

Four days in Cali is worth much more to me than a grand. It actually costs me a little over $800 just to get there.

[soltero]

... in response to Just call me Hitch. , posted by Calipro on Oct 15, 2005

I think it's a great idea. You might actually be able to save a lot of newbies some grief, heartache and cash, and I truly believe it could work if the guys would park their egos and listen to you. If anybody can help somebody navigate this process without getting taken, it's you. You have more experience with this than all but a few, and I would say that their experience is probably equal to yours or only slightly more.

[papi]

... in response to Re: Just call me Hitch. , posted by soltero on Oct 15, 2005

Soltero, sometimes I wonder how many "newbies" really read these forums.  I wish I did 5 years ago.  But if I had I might never have gotten on the plane..hehe