14 hours before departure

[thundernco]

... in response to Re: Re: Having your cake and eating too, posted by Pete E on Oct 8, 2005

on the birth certificate (registro civil).  If his name is not on the registro civil and if the child only has his mother's last name then there should be no issue. -TNC

[Pete E]

... in response to Unless the Father's Name is NOT, posted by thundernco on Oct 9, 2005

Or the kid gets a US passport,which would be after citizenship.
The woman can get TOTAL right with the kid,one way is if the father has disapeared and the granparents cannot be found.One woman I know claimed this on the advice of an attorney.A public notice was required,newspaper.The granparents stepped forward,said she knows where we live.She was looking at possible jail time,but she is not in Jail so I guess they are not pushing it.Other than that if the father is known its really tough to take that right from him,simply no support not sufficient.He basically would have to have had no contact at all with the child.
Its a big deal,and you never know if you will get the kid out of the country untill the father signs.Best senario,the father realises its good for the kid.Second,he can be PAID OFF.A stubborn determioned father will leavre you with only illegal choices.Then its best the mother and  child neved return to Colombia.This happened with my brother in law.His ex married a Canadian,took the kid without his signature,perhaps fake documents.I think they do return but the family will tell him nothing.But her could file a complaint with DAS,they would be be detained on entering the country.He doesn't know that and I will not tell him.Flakey guy deserved to lose the kid.

Pete

[Cali James]

... in response to Correct, posted by Pete E on Oct 9, 2005

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Pete, I don't believe a U.S. passport makes any difference to DAS (Colombian INS).  They still want to see a notorized permission from the non-travelling parent.  In my step-son's case, it gets complicated as his biological father lives in Italy.  He has to go to the Colombian embassy in Milan and have them prepare a permission document.  The document is then fed-exed to my wife and when she arrives in Colombia she has to make a special trip to Bogota to validate the document from the embassy (my wife's from Cali).   This document since it's coming from Colombian embassy is valid for 3 months.  I believe a typical notorized permission document (not from embassy) is valid for 2 months.  

The only way to eliminate the necessity for having the father's permission is either for him to die or for him to lose all parental rights through legal action. I think there's a family court where this would be done but can't remember the details.  Anyway, they're not going to grant this exclusivity easily as the court errors in favor of caution and keeping parental rights open.

[Pete E]

... in response to Correct, posted by Cali James on Oct 9, 2005

ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERIDE THIS PARENTIAL RIGHT.THE LAW IS ON THE SIDE OF THE PARENT WHO DOES NOT WANT A CHILD TO LEAVE.

Pete

[Michael B]

... in response to Correct, posted by Cali James on Oct 9, 2005

That's a hassle, but the fact that your stepchild's father goes to the trouble of going to embassy and preparing the document for you speaks well of him.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to 14 hours before departure, posted by Seeker on Oct 7, 2005

Seeker

I have been in the exact position you are in with the ex husband of my wife. He has been constantly a problem and to get the kid out of the country was difficult as well. He only signed the papers when he thought my wife and i were not living together. He still thinks we are divorced. These guys are all machistas and do not care about the well being of the child, only the power they can yeild. It can work out but it is just another obstical in a LD relationship. If i had any advice to give you it would be to look for a woman that does not have a child, which i know is easier said then done. If she has an Ex husband, the power of influence would be a lot less. I wish you luck as it will be a mental chess game

KB

[wildbilman]

... in response to 14 hours before departure, posted by Seeker on Oct 7, 2005

Seeker,
I can relate to your excitement!!From my very recent experiences in Colombia, what you are doing is cool if your girl knows there are other girls in the picture. You may be wrong by assuming that she "knows what you're up to" in Cali. I would say that most girls tend to assume they are the only one unless you tell them otherwise. And I think Latinas are even MORE that way. Your planned vacation with her could be a real disaster if she finds out you were dating other girls in Cali. The names she will call you aren't pretty if she thinks you were cheating her, and thats the way they think about it. Once they think we are "Coqueto" we become the same as the guys they deal with there.

Bill~

[mudd]

... in response to 14 hours before departure, posted by Seeker on Oct 7, 2005

Your right, it doesn’t make any sense. Is it just me or does this sound like you have no idea what you’re doing, or want.  If you’re going to Cali to meet other girls, then apparently, the girl from Medellin isn’t for you. Maybe you shouldn’t waste her time and let her move on, and let her meet a guy who is ready to make a commitment. Women with children don’t date. They want to know if your up to a “ready made family" if not, move on.

I understand that you have to keep your options open, but if you spent some time together already, and you’re still meeting other girls, well, I hope then, she is meeting other guys also. Hope you’re not leading her on.  Good luck!!!!

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: 14 hours before departure, posted by mudd on Oct 7, 2005

I agree with mudd...wtf are you doing??  In Colombia what better way to confuse yourself even more when you have a "girlfriend" in Medellín, but go to Cali to meet other girls??  If your Medellín girl finds out what you are doing, I hope she kicks you to the curb REAL fast, and deservedly so.  

Hey, but when you meet these agency girls in Cali, and you are trying to convince them that your the greatest thing since sliced bread, let them know about your "girlfriend" in Medellín, and we'll see how fast they accept you as their "principé azul"...In Colombia, gringos are starting to get a bad name for this type of behavior...maybe you should do us all a favor and stay home.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Re: 14 hours before departure, posted by beenthere on Oct 8, 2005

Man

Why are you guys beating up on seeker. If i went through the archives and had a dollar for everyone of you guys that had multiple girls because you wanted to"KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN" , i could retire to a nice 3BR in cartagena. All the girls there keep there options open and with so much money, time , ect at stake, there is nothing wrong with us keeping ours open as well. Seeker, keep up with the plan. last thing you want to do is  make a expensive mistake.

KB

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: 14 hours before departure, posted by Kiltboy1 on Oct 8, 2005

wait a minute Kiltboy, he already said this girl is his GIRLFRIEND, and he has been in a relationship with her for sometime...plus he has the girl BELIEVING that they are boyfriend and girlfriend.  There is a difference between that and keeping your options open and dating many women.  He is scamming this girl by leading her on...plain and simple...maybe we should start a forum were these women can cry and complain about the gringos...hopefully, though, there won't be female version of Okieman posting...

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: 14 hours before departur..., posted by beenthere on Oct 8, 2005

Umm

They all think you are there girlfriend after a week.I agree he should be upfront  with her as i think with the ex in the picture, he is asking for problems.I do not agree with other parts though. They all play a gringo in some form or another, so keeping everything on equil grounds i see nothing wrong with. If you do not agree, fine, but these women are dangerous in many ways, so seeker, have fun and date alot of women is what i say. after you have dated many, compare them and pick the one that best has the qualities you search for. I made the mistake of taking a pretty one fast and learned a good lesson, so date, date, date and then when you find one you like, date some more just to make sure.

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 14 hours before depa..., posted by Kiltboy1 on Oct 8, 2005

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re-read his post...this isn't a one week relationship...

Boy, thank God I'm not as jaded as you!!!  And thank God I have enough self-confidence and enough "going on" that I believe women will fall in love with me and be faithful (and they do)...the day I think like you will be a sad day indeed!!

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 14 hours before ..., posted by beenthere on Oct 8, 2005

jajaja

I know who's writing pattern this is. I would not be one to talk if i were you. I know your way of thinking as well and you have blown through your share of women in your love skack in cartagena. Please spare me the rightious crap

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 14 hours bef..., posted by Kiltboy1 on Oct 8, 2005

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sorry my friend, you seem to have me confused with someone else...haven't been to Cartagena in years.  jajaja back at ya'...

While your at, explain to everyone on this board why it is so hard for you to believe that a woman would fall in love with you and be faithful...