Latinas opinions about men's appearance

[Bueller]

... in response to Latinas opinions about men's appearance, posted by OkieMan on Sep 27, 2005

It's less a matter of your natural physical makeup and more a matter of how you take care of yourself in terms of fitness, grooming and hygiene. If you're like a lot of AM, you could probably use some coaching and upgrading in this regard.

 The only specific I'd mention is: pay close attention to your shoes, because women do. If you go cheap on anything, don't let it be your shoes.

[OkieMan]

... in response to Re:  Latinas opinions about men's appear..., posted by Bueller on Sep 28, 2005

Thanks for the tips Bueller, but if you will notice my original post, I was not asking for advice on how to dress.  That's not to say that I can't always improve.  I was commenting on what I have read on many websites where the impression is given that the ladies don't care about a man's appearance; and I was saying that I know for a fact that the latinas do indeed care about a man's appearance!  Therefore, I think that the websites are misleading.  I just don't know why they would do that-- other than they are trying to not give too much info that would make a "typical" american or European man hesitant about coming to Latin America.  Maybe they are worried that if they told the men the truth on the front in, it would scare them off?   I don't know.  At any rate,  I think that on this board, most of us agree that it is very important to make that good "first impression".

                           OkieMan

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Re:  Latinas opinions about men's ap..., posted by OkieMan on Sep 28, 2005

"Thanks for the tips Bueller, but if you will notice my original post, I was not asking for advice on how to dress."

 And I wasn't principally telling you how to dress; I was explaining what Latinas probably mean when they (or their middlemen) say they don't care about your looks.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re:  Latinas opinions about men's appear..., posted by Bueller on Sep 28, 2005

This caught my eye because even though my wife was Ukrainian & NOT Latina the SHOE issue came up. She did not mind the leather pants, VErsace & Ken Cole shirts, but the SHOE?! Or should I say boots. I have Harley Davidson boots & for some reason or other they simply were not "up to par" for Uke fashion. I was wondering how that would come to play wit the LW. My ex sister in law even said SHOEs were the FIRST thing she'd look for in a guy. To me that sounds SO petty considering I make more in a day than they make in a MONTH so why haggle over shoes? Go figure.
I hate to say it but to me that comes across as VERY shallow on THEIR part. I guess what gets me is they were VERY content when I was put in a pair of $20 CHINESE shoes that were a piece of $H!+. Go figure.

[Bueller]

... in response to What's up with SHOE$?!, posted by Frank O on Sep 28, 2005

[This message has been edited by Bueller]

 Shallow? Ask a woman sometime what it feels like to be scoped up and down and accepted/rejected within the first five seconds without any regard for her personhood. That runs across cultural lines. This "thing" women have about shoes runs across cultural lines, too, so just accept it. At least it's something we can easily change.

[Frank O]

... in response to What's up with the T&A (or whatever)..., posted by Bueller on Sep 28, 2005

You have a point in that we CAN change it. I just don't understand why the SHOES were suck a biggie. In other words the watch, the shirts, the jacket, the pants etc were ALL fine but the boots were not & thus pretty much disqualified everything else from being "ok".?!

[OkieMan]

... in response to What's up with SHOE$?!, posted by Frank O on Sep 28, 2005

Frank,

I am not the guru of fashion here, but I would be willing to bet that there a few basic issues with the shoes.  First of all, it probably has something to do with the fact that they may assume that what you wear is all you have, or the best you have?  I don't know. But, certainly I think the more tradional pair of dress shoes is somehow a big part of their perception of a man who is successful.  (sort of like the old suit and tie thing at business meetings).  Here in the States, we have seen the trends change from strictly business attire considered appropriate, to business casual.  Plus, let's face it; leisure wear has exploded in the States over the last 20-30 years.  I easily remember when all of this casual clothing did not even exist. I don't think a lot of that has caught on in Latin America.  I would think that to some degree that is good; because we all comment on how we like the girls to dress up(plus the sexy clothes).   In their culture that is encouraged.  If AW dressed like some of the latinas do, they would look like  hookers (here in the States).    So, I guess it's the old "when in Rome", thing.

                               OkieMan

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... in response to Re: What's up with SHOE$?!, posted by OkieMan on Sep 28, 2005

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[Frank O]

... in response to Re: What's up with SHOE$?!, posted by OkieMan on Sep 28, 2005

I guess what I did NOT understand was how a several 100$ pair of boots were NOT up to standard but a $20 pair of CHINESE shoes that fall apart after a week were. THAT just got me. Personally I felt like sticking my size 10 boot up their ar$e.

[OkieMan]

... in response to Re: Re: What's up with SHOE$?!, posted by Frank O on Sep 28, 2005

Frank O,

You crack me up.  I don't know about the boot deal either.  I guess they just prefer dress shoes, what can I say?  Someone else commented about cowboy boots.  I had thought that some ladies might like that; especially the ones that comment that they like horses.   In Oklahoma, we have more horses than people!  I am not exactly the cowboy type, but I do love horses, and I used to own some.  But, not anymore.  However, I live just outside of town, and I have neighbors who own horses; one neighbor has a business where he boards them for some people.  Right behind my place is open pasture land, and there is a rancher who has cattle there.  So,  as far as boots are concerned, I think it could be a "big city" thing too.

                              OkieMan

[Brassa]

... in response to Latinas opinions about men's appearance, posted by OkieMan on Sep 27, 2005

Not to sound like im questioning anything except to say. What person wants to be with someone who does not take care of their appearance? I do not think Latin women differ anymore than any other woman.
Not to offend , But no matter the heritage, Neat people gravitate towards other neat people and people who are not so detailed in the way they dress or look do the same.

Birds of a feather i think. I really do not think Latinas are any different.

Perhaps the agencies exploit men`s failures with women of their own culture in order to get business, the claim being if some man is striking out with women in the United States(or wherever) Its not him, Its the women and latin women will be more forgiving as to appearance on the whole?...Its individual to individual but if you get no attention at all, Dont think your off the hook by going to Latin america, Check the mirror first and ask if anyone would want to be seen with you.

[OkieMan]

... in response to Why is this a "Latina" prefere..., posted by Brassa on Sep 28, 2005

Brassa,

Good point.

[oakham]

... in response to Latinas opinions about men's appearance, posted by OkieMan on Sep 27, 2005

you have a super keen eye....thanks for sharing that big kihuna tidbit.....brother i know in time we'll find our soul mates in wonderland cali

[Patrick]

... in response to Latinas opinions about men's appearance, posted by OkieMan on Sep 27, 2005

Hmmm, I seem to remember wearing Levis and polo shirts with athletic outdoor shoes most of the time in Colombia.  I dressed better when we went out at night.  Slacks, the same polo shirts, and decent shoes.   Wore shorts & t-shirts around Cartegena & surrounding islands during the day.

Perhaps the key is to be yourself, but be at least aware of cultural norms.  Doesn't hurt to be in good physical shape, well-groomed, date women near your own age & speak Spanish as well...

I would spend more energy on studying Spanish and less on every other aspect of this game.  It'll be a far more productive use of your time.  Then consider your next trip just a vacation and opportunity to pratice your Spanish.  And who knows, you might even meet a nice lady while there on vacation.

[mudd]

... in response to Latinas opinions about men's appearance, posted by OkieMan on Sep 27, 2005

The first time in Colombia, back when Latin Connections was the place. I was sitting at the table outside on the deck, me and two other guys who left Latin Best (back then it was called Latin’s worst) anyways, we were having breakfast, and in walks this guy, wearing a blue bandana, an army camouflage t shirt with the sleeves cut off, white socks, hiking boots, and some kind of shorts, smoking a cigarette, and carrying an army duffle bag. ( no kidding!!) Our jaws dropped to the floor as we couldn’t believe this guy was now a new client, here to meet girls.

I watched his 1st appointment show up, some girl about 23, and you should have seen the look on her face when she found out he was her date, and it was a site to see. In the interview, (still wearing the same outfit) he pops open a beer, and  lights up a cigarette in front of this poor girl.  After about 20 minutes, she reaches over and puts out the cigarette, probably had enough.

And this guy couldn’t figure out why he couldn’t find a girl who liked him. He was an ok guy, personality wise, but come on, do some research on the culture,  they are not into hippy, army hicks, walking out of the jungle.  Guys, get some class, dress nice, casual nice, Dockers, nice shirt, nice jeans and shoes, definitely NO shorts, no sandals/ flip flops.  Dress to impress!!!!!!!