Real Cali stories

[Pete E]

I posted the guy I call Ted met a girl he is thrilled with.She seemed in to him. I said it could be that simple.Unfortuately not.Apparently something is going on with her that has her backing off,being mysterious.I posted usually 95 % another guy.But that would be for an on going situsation thats always has a mysterious element.In a new relationship it could be many things,but her motivation is split.I am guessing 70% it is another guy.
Actually,it DOES NOT matter what it is.If she is not in to you with no mystery or doubt the solution is forget he,move on.Not try to figure out why.That will drive you crazy.
He is shopping again.We will see where it goes and she might come back around,but don't hold your breath.

Pete

[Hoda]

... in response to Real Cali stories, posted by Pete E on Sep 25, 2005

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of these stories....

The side I'm referring to is of course...the ladies side! Maybe it's a lack of interest or English on their part, that keeps them from posting. Maybe our newest lady poster can encourage a few women to post their experiences/opinions of visiting men from North America. Carolina, if it would help....tell the ladies to post in Spanish! If anything, it might get "Real Stories" from the other side posted & help guys with their Spanish!

P.S. This invitation for Latin Ladies to post is not exclusive to women from Cali.

[teoblas]

... in response to Never enough, from the other side....., posted by Hoda on Sep 26, 2005

About half of the guys read or post because they are looking forward to meeting the right lady or conquering a bunch of ladies.  The other half of the guys read or post because they are reliving their past adventure or adventures, to stay in touch with friends, or they want to lend a helping hand.  

What benefit is it to the ladies to read or post?  Not much....  Girls figure out guys and how to work them at about 15 or 16 if not earlier... or never at all...  For the most part we guys are playing their game.  They do not need to read about the game, they invented it....

Reminds me of a joke.  A little naked boy and a little naked girl are checking out their respective sets of plumbing.  The little boys points down to his plumbing and says "you don't got one of these!"  The little girl points down to her plumbing and says "with one of these I can get as many of those as I want!"

Teo

[OkieMan]

... in response to What is in it for the ladies to post?, posted by teoblas on Sep 26, 2005

Teo,

Well, what you said is true, but kind of crappy too.  The girls have us figured out in 15 minutes, and we spend our lives trying to understand them and never do.  What's that all about?  But, I still would like you and others to give me a few more clues about the latinas perspective, because it is rather obvious that the more common catch phrases, the typical agency stuff, is almost worthless.  Case in point, the typical thing that all of us read on the websites for what the ladies want: "I want a man who is faithful, who is romantic, blah, blah, blah.  Well, of course she wants those things.  No sane girl is going to say I want a guy who will knock me up, cheat on me, beat the crap out of me, and dump me for another girl.  So, basically, I need to know something I don't already know.  But, so far, it is slow going.  Plus, the translations sometimes leaves a lot to be desired.  Naturally, I wish I could speak fluent spanish right now.  But, I need something that will help me now-- until I can learn more.  Based on what some of you have said recently on this board, it would appear that the latinas are taught not to tell their true feelings.  I don't exactly understand, but if that is true; then that would account for why I had some difficulty understanding them.  Plus, I can see that I was asking the girls too many questions, because they aren't used to being asked-- they are used to being told what to do.  How am I doing so far?  I am trying to take "baby steps", but obviously this is all new to me; and it must be for other new guys too.  Even though I have already been to Cali twice, I can see that I have more to go then I originally thought.

                          OkieMan

[Hoda]

... in response to What is in it for the ladies to post?, posted by teoblas on Sep 26, 2005

For extending an "invitation" for ladies to participate on the forum! If a woman or man for that matter feels that their participation should be based on "what's in it for them".... I rather that they don't bother at all! I'm glad Carolina has chosen to contribute her views to the forum. I (and I'm sure others) would be happier if more women from South America would participate. Who knows, maybe a few love connections might happen....

It ain't the game....it's the player in the game!

[teoblas]

... in response to Well excuuuuse me.....lol, posted by Hoda on Sep 26, 2005

"Any relationship that isn't based on mutual self-interests is bound to have poor consequences."  Harry Brown

I think the concept to get ladies to post in this or some other forum is a fine idea.

My post was intended to provoke the question - How can we motivate any or many woman to WANT to post on a continous basis?

In reality there are multiple groups of women we might want to hear from and others we might not care to hear from.  There are women we want to meet, women who have something valuable to share, women nobody wants to meet, women in agencies, women not in agencies, women that don't speak or read english, etc...

Sure we can ask a wife, girlfriend, sister or agency member to post as a (one time) favor or novelty.... but is there any way we can make it in the interests of some or all of these women to make WORHTWHLE posts on a continious basis?

What are the (additional) ways to get women to post?    

For instance should we make up a half page flyer in Spanish saying the following (or whatever):  
There is an on line forum of single North American (?and European?) guys looking for sentimental relationships (or sex or both -- oops, better leave that out) with latinas and other guys married to latinas.  Latin women are welcome and encouraged to visit and if desired post in English or Spanish as long as they follow the P-L rules.  The address is www.planet-love.com

Should a few people get together over a case of beer and try to refine the above?  Or should we make it two cases of beer in order to dream up some real/additional motivation and shart/long term benefits for the ladies to visit and post?  (like promise them a visa raffle?- any of you guys work in an embassy??? - ha ha in case you don't understand I am joking here...)

Should we post the text somewhere on P-L or somewhere else to allow guys to access, copy, print it out and distribute it at agency parties (this could be a just the ice breaker some lucky Planet-LovER has been waiting for!!!!!)  Or possible we can have P-L members that are living throughout Latin America download the text and run it as an ad in their local newspapers under the Agencias Matrimoniales seciton of the newspaper?  Or should we encourage P-L members to stick a copy of some approved text on the bulliten boards of the English Language institutes where they live (both in North America and in Latin America).  Should we try to convince an agency owner to send out the Spanish version of the approved text to a hundred or so of the ladies in his agency (what do you think Roy...)?

Now, before we open pandora's box, do we really want to encourage women to post?  How do you screen out the shemales, transexuals, trolls, cats and dogs, etc... I have no idea.  My vote - ah what the hell, go for it....

Teo

[OkieMan]

... in response to Some ideas to motivate the ladies to pos..., posted by teoblas on Sep 27, 2005

Teo,

That is a great idea. It is thought provoking; but, I think that Hoda and Patrick will have to sign off on it, and then maybe you and Pete and other guys living down there could figure out how to get it in front of the ladies. The most obvious starting place would be at the agencies, and Carolina might be a place to start.  I will say that also I have written an email to a Colombian lady in Cali who did some translating for me. I put this idea out to her, and I am waiting to hear back.  If we put this deal together, I can give her some updated information.  Ultimately, all we can do is try.  You suggested some ways; so maybe something like this can be developed.  Maybe all of us who are so motivated can put our "thinking caps" on.  So, I say, bring it on-- but there certainly needs to be some planning put into it.

                                OkieMan

[Beattledog]

... in response to Some ideas to motivate the ladies to pos..., posted by teoblas on Sep 27, 2005

great ideas in this post

Beattledog

[OkieMan]

... in response to Well excuuuuse me.....lol, posted by Hoda on Sep 26, 2005

Hoda,

Well said; and I hope this kind of thing will catch on.  If we could have at least a small percentage of ladies to participate, I believe everyone could benefit.  I don't expect miracles, but learning something new is always helpful.  Besides, we are all a bunch of guys.  We think like guys, we act like guys.  You put ladies in the mix, and it changes the dynamics.  In this case, I think for the better.  I don't expect the ladies to jump in with both feet; but it would be nice if a few ladies would jump in from time to time.  I can only speak for me, but I think I could grasp what they really, truly want if we had some ladies to toss out some stuff.  I guess, I am looking for a few "gold nuggets".  Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part.  Now, Carolina has already said a few things, but that is only scratching the surface.  Besides, a married lady will probably have a much different prospective than a single lady who is still looking.  I think it would be great to have both types of ladies, but I guess that is up to them.

                          OkieMan

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Well excuuuuse me.....lol, posted by OkieMan on Sep 26, 2005

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Muchas Colombianas como mi esposa no hablan ingles. Si ella escribe algo aqui, estaria en espanol.

[OkieMan]

... in response to El problema, posted by utopiacowboy on Sep 27, 2005

UC,

I understood enough to know what you said.  Yes, you can help her with the translations.  Besides, I have already had the privelege of exchanging emails with you in the past.  Well, this could just be an extension of that; because at the time, you were telling me a little bit of what your wife thought about a couple of things.  Well, now we could get it in bigger doses.  A smart and mature lady like her could be a great asset to us.  On top of that, we want to know what she saw in you?  That might answer one of life's biggest mysteries! ha ha

                              OkieMan

[jediknight]

... in response to El problema, posted by utopiacowboy on Sep 27, 2005

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tienes razon, seria en espanol y como muchos de los hombres aca no pueden leer en espanol entonces seria tiempo perdido, a menos que alguien tome la molestia de traduccirlo al ingles. de todas maneras no creo que haya muchas mujeres que se vayan a dedicar a opinar o dar consejos en este pagina.
JK

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to tienes razon, posted by jediknight on Sep 27, 2005

n/t

[OkieMan]

... in response to tienes razon, posted by jediknight on Sep 27, 2005

Jediknight,

I only picked up a little what you said, but if you or your novia, or Utopiacowboy or his wife, (or anyone) wrote more in spanish, I could practice that way too.  It's just a thought.

                           OkieMan

[Frank O]

... in response to El problema, posted by utopiacowboy on Sep 27, 2005

things like that many gringos overlook.