What Brazilian Women Want

[Brazilophile]

During my fiancee's last night with me, we talked about what we learned about each other.  I had shown her the LWL and PL lists and she occasionally read some of the posts.  During our talk she made a request of me: help her friends find good husbands!  I asked what information, in order of importance, her friends wanted to know about the foreign men who use agencies to find women to marry.  She became very serious and asked if I really wanted to hear the truth, to which I replied of course.  So here it is.

The single most important piece of information a woman wants to know about a man is how much money he makes.  He must make enough money to support a family.

Second most important is how he earns his money.  Most Brazilian women want nothing to do with a foreign man who earns his money in questionable ways.

Third is how controlling a man is with his money, ie. whether or not he shares it unstingily with his wife.

Not fourth but still important is how much a man drinks and whether he uses drugs.  Most Brazilian women want to avoid men who drink heavily.  I hadn't realized this before but there is a completely different attitude towards drugs there compared to here.  In NA and Europe some drugs, like marijuana, are not considered a big deal to use.  Most Brazilian women see smoking marijuana as equivalent to shooting heroin.  Drug use is drug use, period.   Decent women will drop a man in a millisecond if he uses ANY illegal drug.

Also important is sex, specifically, a man's sex drive and sexual desires.  In Brazil, men from NA and Europe have a reputation for liking "kinky" sex or an excessive amount of sex.  My fiancee says that it is not that they are unwilling to accomodate a man, but that they want to know exactly what they are getting into BEFORE they marry or travel to his country.  There is particular fear about being forced into sex slavery, as such cases have been, and still are, widely publicized in Brazil.  

Another important issue is a man's dressing and grooming habits.  NA and European men, the Europeans more so I think, also have a reputation for dressing badly and not bathing frequently enough.  Brazilian womn have a strong preference for well-groomed, nice smelling men.

I then asked my fiancee whether women are willing to trade off one trait for another, such as less nice dressing for more money.  Or will they refuse to marry a man who only showers once a week despite his earning a good salary?

Again she became very serious and asked me if I wanted to hear the truth.  Of course!

A Brazilian woman will ALWAYS marry a foreign man with enough money.

BUT if he is stingy, if he always smells bad, if the sex is bad, etc., she will ALWAYS divorce him AFTER getting her permanent residency!

On the other hand, if he is generous, dresses well, smells good, has a good personality, the sex is good, etc., then she will STAY married to him!

So, whether a Brazilian woman is a Green Card shark or not depends less on her character and more on us and our lifestyle!  If we offer more than just material benefits then we get a permanent wife.  Whereas if we offer ONLY material benefits then we get a shark!

[Avispa]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

One of her friends was the morena playing the German guy, right?
No, thanks.
My brother was dating a Brazilian woman here in the US.
I remember one conversation where she stated, i'm not money oriented, i'd be happy making $200,000 a year.
Needless to say, they are no longer together.

[Brazilophile]

... in response to $$$$$$, posted by Avispa on Aug 23, 2005

YES! That is correct.  Good memory!

In March, when I met him on a double date and got the gossip, I asked my fiancee about when her friend would tell him that she was not interested in him for a romantic relationship.  Her reply was that they were arguing over that very issue.  

My fiancee wanted her friend to tell him right away.  There was NO CHANCE of this thing developing into anything serious. He was too old for her.  He was too out of shape for her.  He didn't like to bathe and perspired heavily, which turned her completely off physically.  Yet she was still accepting trips to places near her city, and accepting dinners and gifts, etc.  My fiancee felt it was immoral for her to lead him on, as well as a waste of her own time.  She was supposed to be looking for a husband and every day spent with man who was not husband material was a day NOT spent with a man who was husband material.  

I updated the news about them in May.  It is in the archives.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: $$$$$$, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 24, 2005

In a case like that the MAN is equally to blame. Why pretend a gorgeous young babe is going to be interested in you? I mean if you have bad hygiene & have money & are old you think she likes you for YOU?! Cmon man!!! Some times you have to get out of denial.
Having said that I'm currently seeing a drop dead gorgeous 24 year old Mexican from the DF. I wondered what she saw in me turns out she likes heavy metal so I guess the long hair & leather did it. I guess I could put her in the groupie category. Not looking to marry her for sure just enjoy the ride.

[doombug]

... in response to $$$$$$, posted by Avispa on Aug 23, 2005

"I remember one conversation where she stated, i'm not money oriented, i'd be happy making $200,000 a year."

If this belief is widely held, it appears the sense of entitlement held by corrupt government officials in Brazil has equally saturated the character of Brazilians in general.

The NY Times had an article yesterday on the booming agricultural trade in Brazil.  For a minute, I thought maybe I'd stumbled upon a comic strip, as every mention of government officials (governors, mayors, etc.) included how many thousands upon thousands of productive acreage they owned.  And, of course, small farmers and the Amazon basin were the least of their concerns.

[Malandro]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

e a marijuana é muito potente.

[locoabogado]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

And here I was thinking that because I was not well endowed, that I would never get a good latin woman. Now I just need rob a bank and not tell the girl how I got all my money. I feel so much better.....Dude I am dating a girl and she doesnt care how well endowed either me or my bank is, she just likes being with me, maybe you should try that sometime....

[Hamlet]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

When evaluating the desires of your girlfriend and her friends, it would help to know their socio-economic level.  Are these high school/technical school/university educated women?  Do they have professions and experience in those professions?

No offense intended, but such information may affect their perspectives and would help those of us reading about them.

Hamlet

[WS244]

... in response to Socio-economic level?, posted by Hamlet on Aug 22, 2005

Be very careful of this, a common misnomer in life is to automatically equate ones class and character to ones education level in life.  You want to have a good indication of their class and character, meet their parents and see where they live, and this will tell you more than her PHD diploma well.  One does not marry a piece of paper, well some mistakenly do. Or dress her up in a formal, you with a tux, attend a formal function and see if her words and actions equate to her dress and the occasion.  Of course if you are from south texas take her to a dance hall and if she can two step, (not salsa) then all the rest is not important so marry her.

[Brazilophile]

... in response to Socio-economic level?, posted by Hamlet on Aug 22, 2005

Hamlet,

Your question is reasonable.  It is unfortunate that others are using your question to slander my fiancee as a whore.

My fiancee is a nurse and has worked in a municipal health department for 9 years.  The friends she talks about are principally those she met while in university.  These women are mostly aged from late 20's to late 30's.

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Socio-economic level?, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 23, 2005

Oh, calm down! Nobody called your fiancée a whore.

When he said ‘otherwise they sound shallow and no different from a whore’, I interpreted that to mean without more information on where they are coming from, these women sound like all business from the description in your post. When you reported that their top three priorities were #1. Money, #2. Money, and #3. Money, then I’m sorry but that does sound shallow and exactly like a gold digger or a “working girl” in the sense that “working girls” are primarily interested only in your money. See, I tried not to use the word “whore” :-)

Like others have asked, where does LOVE come into this equation anyway?

Ray

[Frank O]

... in response to Socio-economic level?, posted by Hamlet on Aug 22, 2005

& no different from a wh0re.

[WS244]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

This post applies to women of any country, and most women could care less where the money comes from, as long as they do not know who is driving the getaway car.

[Craig]

... in response to What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 22, 2005

No offense but the insight on Brazilian women sounds like many American women. Why travel that far, risk so much, for an attitude you can get just across town?

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: What Brazilian Women Want, posted by Craig on Aug 22, 2005

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