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Author Topic: Has anyone here been to both FSU & LA?  (Read 16831 times)
Frank O
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« on: July 28, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

Just wondering is there ANYONE here who has actually been to either Ukraine or Russia AND to a Latina American country as well? IF so how would you express your opinions on BOTH respectively? I'm in a dilemma in my near start for a new wife.
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AnzoNevis
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Yep
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Has anyone here been to both FSU & L..., posted by Frank O on Jul 28, 2005

I was married to a Russian (Moscow) for 7 years before divorcing 5 years ago.
Engaged to another (twice!). I've visited the FSU 8 or 9 times. I've also been to
Colombia about 25 times and have dated plenty of ladies there and have a
current girlfriend in BAQ.  Are you asking about the ladies specifically or the
places? Do you want a comparison of the benefits and problems of travelling
to each place? I'm going to Cali & BAQ in Aug, then St. Petersburg in Sept. Ask
away!
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papi
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Yep, posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

Anzo, you sound like a man who knows the ropes.  How did you meet your friend in BAQ?  What are your plans in Cali? Agency? hotel?  Regarding the FSU, I have chatted a lot with Frank and agree with his assessment that the women there are absolutely gorgeous but the language, costs, and distance not to mention scam agencies, etc make it a far more difficult endeavor in my view.  I am leaving for BAQ shortly – when do you get into town?
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AnzoNevis
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BAQ
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Yep, posted by papi on Jul 29, 2005

I met my lady friend on a spur of the moment discision to go to a "Sexy
Safari" party weekend. I think they are/were affiliated with Barranquilla's Best.
I could be wrong about that. It took place at the Versailles (2 years ago). She
is currently staying at my apartment near Exito. As for Cali, I met a girl at the
TLC tour there 3 years ago. We dated off and on (I was kinda waiting for her
to finish up school), but we drifted and she ended up marrying a one trip
wonder and recently had a baby and lives in the US. But I am quite close with
her family and they spoil me silly when I'm there. We've adopted each other.
I'll stay at the Intercontinental and probably visit Blues Brothers. No plans to
visit an agency.

    I arrive in BAQ on the 12th, I think, for 5 nights. Drinks on me if you're
there then.

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papi
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to BAQ, posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

Anzo, going to miss you this trip - return before you depart. tell me about your apt near Exito? how much is the rent? hot water? air? are there others for rent? contact info?
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AnzoNevis
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: BAQ, posted by papi on Jul 29, 2005

Torres de Calibri-right above the Western Union office and Blockbuster.
About $350 or so a month + admin. 2 BR, nice building. She (Marta) never
had hot water in her life and thinks it is a waste of money! Same with air.
Huge terrace, pool, security. I don't have any actual contact info right now. I'll
see what I can do.
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papi
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: BAQ, posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

cold showers is not my gig - i'll buy the tank. same goes for the air - f..g hot there. yes, see what yu can find in terms of a contact. thanks
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AnzoNevis
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Yep, posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

Met former wife through the pre-internet ('92) black and white catalog,
Scanna. It may have been a bit more romantic then, as I'd send a letter and
wait a month or more for a reply. Anyway, the FSUs, in general, are better
educated, more cultured, more diverse looks-wise ranging from Scandinavian
blondes to far-eastern and everything in between. My ex, long dark hair,
asian eyes, seriously rockin' bod...,  is a professional musician and is now
with a major opera company. They seem to have a lot of  "want" built up
inside. I personally think they're sexier (go ahead and flame me).  They're a
bit more like onions-layers that get revealed as you get to know them better.
Once you're in, they're every bit as passionate as the Latins. And they get just
as demonstrative when they are pissed off (believe me!). In terms of history
and culture, well, Russia has been around a long time and the folks there are
quite proud. Extremely nice and unbelievably generous with what they have,
once you've gotten to know them a little. It is a matriarcial society, so the
women are usually quite strong of will, opinion and if life gets really tough,
I'd want a Rooski any day. The dads seem to be there largely for providing,
and it is clear who runs the house, and who you have to please if you want
their daughter! If you ever get invited to their apartment, consider it an honor
and be very, very hungry.  Other than the party girls in the bigger cities,
they're not at all frivolous. You can have a college educated family of 4 living
in a 2 br Soviet style apartment and living on 150/mo. Grim. As far as the
Latinas, most everybody on the board can chime in. Simpler, more happy-go-
lucky, wear their hearts on their sleeves. Both places are filled with nice
ladies. You just have to visit and sees what works best. Obviously, SA is a lot
closer. 3 day weekends can mean a visit. Language is easier. No jet lag. No
visas. No St. Pete Winters (BRRRRRRR!). Scamming is a fine art with some of
the ladies in the FSU and you MUST have your wits about you if you visit
there, as you WILL fall in love instantly with the Smokin'-Hot-Kova you've
been corresponding with!!! Wait till the 1st time you hear "Dahlink" with that
accent. I have several friends either married, engaged, or visiting FSU girls,
though 1 is starting to get interested in SA because of the above difficulties.
But every unmarried guy REALLY needs to visit the FSU. Nevsky Prospekt
(main commercial/social street in St. Pete) on a July evening is the most
amazing display of Euro fashion, short skirts, the world's best sets of legs, no
sunset, and virtually NO fat chicks. Nothing in Colombia is remotely close. All
in all, your life would probably be a bit easier with a SA lady, but do look
around. I got lots more totally subjective opinions...
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utopiacowboy
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to well, I'll elaborate a bit, but Jeez, ho..., posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

[This message has been edited by utopiacowboy]

Sorry, double post.
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utopiacowboy
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to well, I'll elaborate a bit, but Jeez, ho..., posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

All I can say is, Have you been to Medellin? I'd put the paisas up against any group of women in the world.
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jey
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to well, I'll elaborate a bit, but Jeez, ho..., posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

Yes most of what you say is true
I lived in LA a couple of years and now live part time in FSU, have had girlfriends of both
the slavic woman can be domineering but it just means you have to be stronger, they will sense a power vacuum and they are more complex.
i think it mostly comes down to preferences as far as looks. there are all kinds of ladies in both places
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papi
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: well, I'll elaborate a bit, but Jeez..., posted by jey on Jul 29, 2005

where did yu live in LA??? where part time now in FSU???
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Frank O
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to well, I'll elaborate a bit, but Jeez, ho..., posted by AnzoNevis on Jul 29, 2005

It's the matriarchial society you mentiond that I didn't like. Sorry but I'm NOT into the women being the one running the house. Diana gave me that krap about "yes the man is the head of the house, but the women is the neck & she moves the head in whatever direction SHE wants". Sorry that just did NOT work.
But like you said the LOOKS!!!!! THey ARE gorgous. But then AGAIN my wife who was Ukrainian/Russian that I picked LOOKED like a LATINA. If you did NOT hear hear speak you would think she WAS Latina.
Thanks so VERY much for pointing all this out. That's what I was looking for. But then you DID tell me everything I thought. I just thought perhaps on top of what went wrong with MY choice that many of the things you pointed out were NOT just with MY wife. The strong opinions etc. Sorry I don't mind that but I don't want a wife fighting with me to see who is the head of the house.
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fathertime
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Has anyone here been to both FSU & L..., posted by Frank O on Jul 28, 2005

I have been to both Odessa and Cali one time apiece.  I found receptive women in both places.  I think I could have been happy with a women from either place.  At this point I have decided that overall I think I click better with the Latina more so than the Ukrainian.  I am more casual and I think I have a better chance of getting along long term with a latina (As long as I pick the right one), which brings me to the crux of what I want to say.  I do not think it matters much where you go, you still will have to make a good choice in either location so ultimately it is entirely in your hands.  You know you so where do you want to go?

Fathertime

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Frank O
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Has anyone here been to both FSU &am..., posted by fathertime on Jul 28, 2005

Thanks for that. So there is SOMEONE who has been & dated both. I was just wondering if perhaps my WRONG choice was NOT an anomaly but perhaps most Ukes were like that. I dated several Ukrainian ladies but they are all VERY similar. I've dated MANY Mexicans & they were all similar. I WOULD choose a MExican over a Uke ANY day. At this time like you said it boils down to me...I guess I WOULD be happier with a Latina lady. Just more compatible in many ways. Judging from the ladies I dated & the ones I married.
Thanks.
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