Looking for some honest feedback.

[Gringo Loco]

I would like to get everyones opinion on something.

Why do you think girls join several agencies?

Do you think agencies should list the other agencies that they are with?

Do you think agencies charge too much and promise too much and deliver very little?

What do you think of Amigos.com advantages and disadvantages?

Please respond!

Regards,

Michael Hurles

Coming soon!
www.yourlatinwife.com
The new era of International Relationships!

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Gringo Loco on Jun 1, 2005

I think amigos is great and I don't understand why more guys don't use it. I met my wife on amigos and she never would have set foot in an agency. Her sister is on amigos now.

The advantage is that it doesn't cost much and you can get in touch with hundreds of Colombianas. The disadvantage is that there are many guys writing the same women - my wife got many responses to her profile. It's best to be yourself and follow up if there is interest with a trip. A lot of guys write and write without acting. Once you've got something going you have to get down there - there is no substitute for a face to face meeting. Another advantage is if you don't know Spanish you can take the time to put a letter together and decipher hers - eventually you can learn a lot of Spanish like this.

[Gringo Loco]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by utopiacowboy on Jun 3, 2005

Utopia,

 I too have met and visited women from Amigo's It is definitely a money saver. I too like it a lot and still currently use it. I am Sushirock on there. I was trying to use the same screen name here but for some reason they wouldn't sign me up until I wrote them and told them I am a future agency owner.

 Anyway, My experince on amigos has always been really good. The only thing I don't like about it is the standard member upgrade. Standard members cannnot contact you unless you pay an additional $19.95 so in reality its $30.00 a month. Not $9.95 they only charge this to reel you in.

Again, yes if you do pay you will get the responses and even hits. I wish you well!

 And FYI I asked about amigos.com There is a reason why. You will see very soon!

 Thanks Again!

 Michael Hurles

 Coming Soon!
 www.yourlatinwife.com
 The new era of International Relationships!

[MarkNJ]

... in response to Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Gringo Loco on Jun 1, 2005

I think one of the reasons for the ladies to sign up with several agencies is the same reason why the guys go to different agencies... Also, some agencies in the past are offshoots of other agencies, or maybe the lady learned about the agency service from one but then found a better agency and then decided to join that one... I have no problem what agency that special lady is in just as long as I/we get a chance to meet her.    If it takes her to join several agencies to get the exposure that it will take for her to meet one of us guys out here searching then so be it...

If you are going to track which girls are in what agency, when they have signed up, when they might terminate their membership, when they sign up with a different agency after they have joined yours, it might be a neat experiment...   remember that if you start that sort of service and you are not on the up and up in keeping your stats accurate some gringos are going to hold your feet to the fire.

Hopefully most of the guys out here reading the boards have used the services of the agencies that for the most part provide what they claim to be providing...   word of mouth goes a long way and there is no perfect agency for any one particular person but for the most part most of the reputable agencies will provide a decent amount of service and not have a person get totally ripped off.

As for Amigos and Match.com, I think that a special woman can be found using that type of service but if a person is not ready to make the trip after a month or two of writing I feel they will be essentially wasting their time.   Most of the serious ladies who do use that service and are not seeking a pen pal or email buddy will want to meet the guy soon, and if he is not willing to meet she will definately be moving on to someone who is going to take the journey.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by MarkNJ on Jun 1, 2005

I met my wife on amigos. After a month, we started making plans to see each other. Two months after we started writing I met her in San Andres and three months after that we were married. It's a good way to meet some serious minded women but you can't dilly dally or else they'll move on to someone else with more initiative.

[Gringo Loco]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by MarkNJ on Jun 1, 2005

Mark,

 I like your perspective. I to some extent will probably not be able to accurately track these women. I just want to share this information with perspective clients.

 I agree with what you said about Amigos.com The girl I am actually spaking to now had a guy for 7 months but he never came to see her. I he said he was going to 3 times and never made it. She wouldn't talk to me. She said she was focusing on him.

 I sent her an email wishing her best of luck with him. And to be careful becase there are a lot of men basically are full of (S). She responded and dumped him a week later.

  Agencies will never be perfect. But if you really care about what people think then you will always live up to their expectations

  I appreciate your response!

  Thanks,

  Michael Hurles

  Coming Soon!
  www.yourlatinwife.com
  The new era of International Relationships!

[Pete E]

... in response to Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Gringo Loco on Jun 1, 2005

Why do the girls join several agencies?Its smart,why not have maximum exposeure and increase your chances?I tell them to join all the agencies,don't count on one,especially if it is a poor performer.

Should the agencies list the other agencies they are with??
No.Why should they even try?They don't own the girls.You want them to do too much,then it would probably not be accurate anyway.How do they know if a girl later joins another agency?

Do the agencies charge too much?Some do in my opinion.
Do they deliver too little? All they can deliver is the service to hook you up.If they do that well,and some are better than others,the rest is up to you.They do not deliver the results,just an OPPORTUNITY for you.No guarantees.Beware any guarantees.

I have no personal experience with Amigos.com.Some have had success with them.But do not think writting is a substitute for coming.There is no substitue.And don't ever get ahead  of yourself with a girl you have never even met.OR get locked in to spending your precious time here with only one unless you are very interested in her and she seems the same about you.Any red flags at all,keep shopping.Don't waste you precious time,then get discouraged and not come back.I have seen it happen.
Its good to do a little research,form a plan,then you have to get your butt on a plane.Don't get stuck in paralysis of analysis with the assistance of and E mail service or even a discussion site like this one.Something like 90% of the E mail senders never get their butt on a plane.Pure fantasy.Don't be one of them.Because of that your mails often don't get a response.You want to get taken seriously you have to show up.

Pete

Pete

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Pete E on Jun 1, 2005

I recommend amigos because it gives you a chance to see how you click with a woman and whether it's worth pursuing things further. I wrote to a lot of women and nothing materialized - there was just no "there" there. Once you know there's something there, you have to get your butt on the plane. Guys emailing are a dime a dozen - the guy willing to go down there shows that he means business and they like that. It shows he's not just talk.

[Gringo Loco]

... in response to You're right, Pete., posted by utopiacowboy on Jun 3, 2005

Yes you are right. I found out though by them knowing you have visited their country and that you speak spanish they are very eagr to talk to you.

I usually look at where they are from and tell them I have been there and describe a landmark or favorite place.

But you are right there are plenty that do not respond. Some sign up and never go back. I would almost bet that Amigos somehow makes it look like people are signing in to view their profiles when they really havn't signed up for months.

Thanks!

Michael Hurles
www.yourlatinwife.com
The new era of International Relationships!

[Gringo Loco]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Pete E on Jun 1, 2005

Pete,

 I like your answers. I do disagree on the agency listing though. I think they should be listed. I want to insure honesty I know it is impossible but I think If I could know I would want to know.

 You are right Going to Colombia is the ulimate experience. I actually met a girl from Amigo's in Colombia but I still say the events say it all!

 You are very correct about what agencies deliver. The problem is they tend to reel people in on false hopes.

 I appreciate your time and answers!

 Regards,

 Michael Hurles
 
 Coming Soon!
 www.yourlatinwife.com
 The new era of International Relationships!

[Traveller]

... in response to Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Gringo Loco on Jun 1, 2005

Ok, I'll bite.
1.) "Why do you think girls join several agencies?"
Simply better odds for them to find a Gringo. The more agencies they join the more Gringos will see their profile.
2.) "Do you think agencies should list the other agencies that they are with?"
I don't see how that would be a good idea from a business point of view. I mean, it's totally the agency owners call though and the owner is in the busines to make money. Another agency may have a better product and a customer may go to that agency instead of yours to find the same woman based on that they have a pool or AC in the rooms, etc.
But, that aside, personally, I don't think it's that bad an idea. See how hard this girl is trying to find a guy.It would also be interesting to see if the agency is taking thier own photos or using the same photo from another agency.
3.) "Do you think agencies charge too much and promise too much and deliver very little?"
I my opinion, yes. I realize a guy has to make a buck, but I think SOME of the places go overboard. I stayed in comparable rooms in Quito, Ecuador at several hostels, the most being $20 a night. Including breakfast, TV, private bathroom and shower, and daily maid service, etc. Nice clean places.
I realize that the introduction service needs to have a price tag too. But, as I recently found out after a friend paid $100 to meet 7 women over the course of two days, that only 2 showed up. 2 out of 7, not a very good percentage. I know one agency's rent was about $480 a month and they were charging a $100 a night. If one guy stays 5 nights, he pays the rent for the month. If one more guy or the same guy stays another 5 nights, he pretty much pays the utilities and payroll.  Now I don't know about you, but if I am going to South America, I want to pay South American prices. That doesn't mean I agree paying 50,000 pesos a night for a nice room and the intro-service, but it seems a little high to me. (Then again, I also think the agency owner can charge whatever he feels his service is worth.) I think one thing that a lot of owners don't take in to account is that it cost a lot more to fly to Cali than say Caracas or Peru. I've posted extensively on that subject so I won't get into it.
Promising too much. My buddy and I wanted to attend one of the parties that a certain agency was throwing and we went there to see the old place and pay the $100 for the party. We weren't even allowed inside. The guy on the intercom, guess he was too good to come out and say Hi to us Gringos, gave us some BS story about going to Holguines to register and check us out, before he would allow us to enter. He said that those instructions are clearly on the website. Since then they have added the Office Section which states, "If you are not staying at the CALI VIP House, you can use our services thru our office. The house is not available if you do not stay." So, how do I know if I want to stay there if I can't go there. Whatever, it's the owners decision, but I think they promise you this wonderful service and this great house, but treat you like crap if you knock on their door. Regardless of whether or not you even knew about their website, they should make you feel welcome, afterall, don't they want your business? But no, we were chased away. I figure walk in business would be good, especially since our main purpose to pay for thier party, but I think good people skills are lost at that particular agency.
I think the most important thing is the number of girls who actually show up for the appointments. I know one place, and this may no longer be the case, had girls on thier books from years and years ago. And, I know damn well some of them are long gone. So you pay for thier service and you pick the girls you want to meet and unbeknownest to you, they no longer live in the city, are married or have a boyfriend. Is that fair to the customer? I mean, if the girls you want to meet based on the photos on that angeny's books aren't available or just don't show up, is that a good deal to pay for that kind of service? I think that goes without saying.
Now look, I haven't used an agency since 1999, but I have been visiting here for 6 years and lived here for almost 4 years. I know a lot of guys who have passed through here or live here. These are same complaints I have heard about agencies for years. I also know some of the agency owners. I'm not bagging on anyone, well except the agency with the party, but I think that the organizational skills of some of the agencies could be tightened up some. Making sure girls are still available and if they aren't take them out of the books and off the website. Wasn't there recently a big deal about a girl who got married and wanted her photos taken off the agency website she was listed on, and the agency refused to pull her photo down because she was really pretty? Isn't that fraud? I mean, the agency is trying to lure you to their business by using a photo of a girl that is no longer available.
ANYWAYS....there I go again writing WAY too much. But, bottom line, if you are going to be paying a lot of money for service, you should get that service exactly as the agency states it. That's fair. No excuses, well she doesn't live in the city anymore. Oh, she just started school in Bogota. Oh, she's in Italy. Oh, but it's raining. Yadda, yadda, yadda. 2 out of 7 people, for $100.
Ok, gotta quit writing. Writers Anonymous.

[maggiemtnman]

... in response to Re: Looking for some honest feedback., posted by Traveller on Jun 1, 2005

Traveller, did you ever get an answer from Cali VIP about your treatment? I will be in Cali in August and would like to meet you. Please send me an e-mail to my profile e-mail address. I tried to e-mail you but it would not deliver ... thanks

[Traveller]

... in response to Re: Re: Looking for some honest feedback..., posted by maggiemtnman on Jun 1, 2005

Hi,
No, never heard anything. No big deal. That's just thier policy on walk-ins. Send them away to an obscure location to fill out forms and make copies or something.
You can write me at latinmodelos@latinmodels.com
I'm gonna head home in July for awhile but I should be back at the end of August. Let me know when you are going ot be down.

[maggiemtnman]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Looking for some honest feed..., posted by Traveller on Jun 1, 2005

Traveller .... I tried latinmodelos@latinmodels.com and it does not work. Is this the correct e-mail address? .. thanks

[Traveller]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for some honest ..., posted by maggiemtnman on Jun 2, 2005

Hmmm. That's the business email. I got email on it yesterday and for the last 4 years.
Try striker65@msn.com