Learn The D??M Spanish

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: If you make poor choices, spanish do..., posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

Yea, gist of your original post had something to do about Spanish but was also a big put down on Cali and the women who come from there.  The first point could have been made without any reference to the second.  You made the connection and I gave some background why you might feel so bitterly towards Calenas. If you're saying that your views about Calenas is not in any way related to your on again, off again relationship with your Calena wife than so be it, I'll accept that.  I don't normally comment on other people's wives but you spoke so poorly of her in the past, that I believed you when you said she was a not a good person. I only repeated information in my post that you had posted here first.  I must admit that I was skeptical that she could change when you indicated last year that she had.  The reality is, is that in rare cases some people do change.  I'm glad to hear that she was one of them and my apologies for suggesting that perhaps she hadn't. Only you and her would know this so I overstepped my knowledge.  

But please don't put down all Calenas.  You can meet good and bad people anywhere.  Agencies can be dangerous for sure but there are a lot of decent women in the books when people take the time and effort to seperate the sincere from those who aren't.  

James

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to If you make poor choices, spanish doesn'..., posted by Cali James on May 25, 2005

No problem james

We all have our opinions and this was only mine.
Main thing is to learn the Spanish

[MarkNJ]

... in response to Re: If you make poor choices, spanish do..., posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

I would also ad that for the most part the "experts" say that "communication" as a whole is only approximately 20% verbal...  maybe a contributing factor in all of the failed relationships where the two people do speak the same language...  Actions tend to speak louder than words... so does "body language"...

[Onephd]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

Hey, good advice on learning Spanish and such.  

Do you mind me asking what cities have you visited before?  It sounds like your comparision of braindead women and REAL WOMEN are based on a comparison of Cali women to thoese you have just met.  Is this accurate?

Personally I don't have experience with Cali. I've been to Bogota many times and I found there women to more like what you described you have found recently.  

I also just got back from Peru this week and it appears from my limited exposure there that there are many nice women there.

The best is located where you find it.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Onephd on May 25, 2005

to ONEPHD

I have met women from all over colombia for going on 2 years or more. I always tried to go back to cali and give the calenas another try, but i am going to be honest here and tell you that in general, the calenas lack many things that most men look for in a partner. they are beautiful , but there attitude in generla is much poorer and less developed then the woman from Bogota, medellin, barranquilla, and cartagena

So, yes, i have met them from all over , good bad and ugly(lol) , but i now have a criteria that i look for beauty and brains and a desire to work ,understand what it menas to pay for things, be responsable for there own lives and work to help the family, not just to look good in a short skirt,.

I just find  that much more in women from different parts of colombia

hell, i have 5 girls visiting the states this sumemr and they all are wanting to come visit me in my state  and pay there own airfare

3 from medellin
1 from panama
1 from peru

all educated, workers but they like me because i joke with them, compliment them, get really in depth with them

AGAIN, ALL IN SPANISH

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Onephd on May 25, 2005

Hello

The gist of my post was not to put cali women down. They are what they are and for the most part, and that is not up to speed with the rest of the country. Yes, you can find a good woman in cali if you look hard enough and my comparison was them to women of the other cities is accurate.

I have been to cali, madellin, cartagena, barranquilla, pereira, all the little pueblos near cali, bogota, ibague  and san andres. the onlt city of any size i have not visited is bucaramanga.

The agency gig i did and yes i met a real winner/i mean loser , mostly because i did not know spanish (which is the gist of my post to beging with and why it is essential for a man to really know spanish before he makes the trip south

Jilted,Holding a grudge, jaded,
ON THE CONTRARY

My bad experience, and she is still here and like a bad cold i cannot get rid of her, is why i have such a understanding now that i did not have then and a greater appreciation of really how much work and learning it takes to make this thing really work well.

Look, i can laugh, cry, make love, have conversation, be  a  friend and an  enemy all  IN SPANISH to any woman i talk to, how many of you can do that and is that not what you look for with someone  anyway, of any culture.

Which again, IS THE GIST OF MY POST.

More agency marriages fail then make it worldwide and  to me cali is a braindead place because the attitdue of salsa, party , eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we die

WELL, DAVE MATTHEWS IS LOADED AND BUSTED HIS ASS FOR YEARS, the cali girls, DID NOT

The mentality in other parts of colombia are way more different then in the cauca

Like i said, each to there own, i enjoy other fishing holes and cali does have a place in the overall game

I do not plan to return there  not because i hate the place, but because i like the other areas better. My good friends like Pete , i will hook up with in say cartagena or some place when he needs a break.

No bad will or flame intended in the post  and i wrote it to really emphasize  LEARN YOUR SPANISH FOOL BEFORE YOU GET TRY TO KNOW OR UNDERSTAND A LATIN WOMAN, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT OTHERWISE

TAKE THAT BIT OF ADVISE TO THE BANK GENTS

[beenthere]

... in response to Re: Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

KB,

very good post and it seems like you have the right attitude...
I was talking to my vice-president of my company today about my woman situation, and he has some experience in South America as a Mormon missionary when he was younger...
My problem, he stated,... is that I just have too many choices, too many women on the line, and I agree.
If a gringo is young looking, handsome, successful, charming, and is fluent in spanish, he can go ANYWHERE in South America, and in a few days meet some lovely ladies and have the time of his life...and this can be confusing, but on the other hand, make a man settle for nothing less than what he is looking for.
Kiltboy, looks like you have the right idea...

BTW: yes, I was describing myself above...hahaha

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to very good post, posted by beenthere on May 25, 2005

It is a lot of truth in that

keep yourself in shape, learn spanish so you can really put the charm on , and it is like taking candy from a baby

Ask Pete, he has seen me in action. I always walk away with the girl if i want her, ALWAYS

But i know how a latin woman ticks now and the only way i learned was to learn spanish to be able to probe what a larin woman really looks for in a man and i can tell in less then 5 minutes if they want a relationship, adventure, novio only or just a friend and i can make my approach based on that imformation

I know it sounds like a game, and in some respects, it is  a little, but it cuts through all the pre-concieved notions about how illusioned a latin woman is with a gringo

KB