Filipinas versus Latinas (specifically Colombianas)

[AndyLee]

I would like to follow up on Robert´s post on another thread, comparing filipinas receptivity to advances, versus Latina´s (specifically Colombianas). Has anyone here experienced first hand the differences?
Here is a portion of Robert´s post (one of his more succinct):



All these posts just hammer home the point that it's so different in the Philippines, where so many beautiful women are friendly and very approachable.

Many will either verbally, by eye contact and/or other body language, message to you that you're welcome to develop a conversation and take it from there. Even a lot of the guys will strike up a conversation and women will soon factor into the situation. It's just so easy and natural that the idea of 'needing game' sounds so lame--actually like it's 'work'.
.......
Besides, there are so many different looking women there--some that are very Latina looking, some very pale, as in Spain, as well as many variations on different Asian ethnicities--Malay, Indo, China, Korea etc. There's even Eastern Indian and some women who have somewhat of an African flavor to their features.

I guess some guys like to make a game out of it, win or lose and knock themselves out, but myself, I prefer going where the 'game' is the women themselves--clean women who have pride but aren't 'full of themselves', where the hunting's easy and rewards are often drama free and long lasting.

[AndyLee]

Okay, I can see cut and paste from one thread to another is a little clunky on this site. I wasn´t able to add the comments to tell the backstory to my question.


My interest in this question is commercial. No I´m not planning to start a dating service either here in Colombia (although several have asked me), or in the Philippines. I am an author and I wrote a book a few years ago entitled Romancing Paradise, the story of my search for love and marriage in Colombia.
The book sold well for two years, then when sales began to tail off the publisher suggested I write a new edition to increase sales. So, we took the book off the market and I set about gathering data.
The information in the book was indeed dated, and needed to be brought current, mostly because I had learned a lot of new things about dating and marrying Colombian woman. I myself had dated about 100 Latinas in Colombian and wound up marrying one of them, but the marriage failed for a number of reasons, primarily having to do with the children and the ex husband.
My advice at this point is marry a woman without kids or with only one young child, preferably a girl child, and beware of ex husbands and ex boyfriends. Even after years of separation some of these Colombianos are intensely jealous, and even more on point, some are violent and dangerous.
One of the things I´m researching for the new edition, is the range of possibilities in other countries besides Colombia. Why men searching for brides in Colombia [size=78%]are finding success[/size][/size][size=78%] [/size][/size][size=78%]when they are not finding success in other Latin countries like Ecuador, Peru, Argentina and Venezuela, all of which have beautiful women searching for a husband.[/size]
Another question I am researching is, are there other countries outside Latin America where a man´s chances are somehow greater than in Colombia? The Philippines, for example.
Reading Robert´s post causes me to consider the possibility that maybe the bloom is off the rose here in Colombia and maybe the grass really is greener is some of these other countries.
For example, I have recently interviewed men who have been seeking love in Cuba successfully, and I´ve been reading about the problem of left over women in China.
When the women in China reach about 30 years old and are unmarried they become left overs.  Even if they are professionals, such as doctors or lawyers or public accountants. Their mothers will stand on the street trying to find a match for their daughter. That´s pretty extreme, yes? It reminds me that one of the complaints here in Colombia is the lack of women with education who can carry on an informed and informative conversation about a range of topics. I can imagine that these Chinese professional women could do interesting conversation with no problem.
Another part of this question has to do with where is the woman from. Many of the posters on this list seem to have a very low opinion of women from estratos 1 and 2 here in Colombis. But, those of us who have lived in one of these third world countries can attest that there are indeed beautiful, intelligent, sincere women in these districts, lots of them.
It´s like saying that all the women in  the Roxbury district of Boston, or the Harlem district of New York are crack whores looking for a sugar daddy. In my opinion that´s such a gross over generalization that it is not even meaningful.
So, what think ye?

[Calipro]

Another part of this question has to do with where is the woman from. Many of the posters on this list seem to have a very low opinion of women from estratos 1 and 2 here in Colombis. But, those of us who have lived in one of these third world countries can attest that there are indeed beautiful, intelligent, sincere women in these districts, lots of them.
It´s like saying that all the women in  the Roxbury district of Boston, or the Harlem district of New York are crack whores looking for a sugar daddy. In my opinion that´s such a gross over generalization that it is not even meaningful.
So, what think ye?

I don't think most posters have a very low opinion of Colombianas from strata 1 and 2 barrios...I do think there are a couple posters that are dead set on distorting board members views of Colombianas in general though.


But if I were interested in researching the topic of Filipinas I would go with a forum that has way more posts and members than this one on the subject. Although most of the post are from younger guys that are just looking to up their notch count compared to finding true love.


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-20905.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34766.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48534.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-8809.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-3734.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-29651.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16725.html?highlight=philippines


https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50668.html?highlight=philippines


There are also plenty of discussions (sometimes heated ) on which women are best Latinas or Asians.

[Awesome]

Can someone sum up what was said in the links Calipro posted?  I'm too lazy to click and read them for myself.


Just how do the Philipinas compare to the Colombianas?  Personally I love them all equally. 

[mudd]

well, i know a few Philippians here in San Diego, we actually have a big population of them, area called " manilla mesa" lol

friend of mine is half Filipino, moms side,  but i never made the trip.

i do know one friend of mine who lived in Medellin for 5 years, couldn't find the girl he wanted, went to Philippines and met his wife there, been happily marred for 4 years now.

 they do seem to be more, relaxed, easy going than colombians and of course, most speak desent english,

[mambocowboy]

This would be a good spot for one of Robert Angel's novels...

[AndyLee]

This would be a good spot for one of Robert Angel's novels...

jajajajaja, I did point out that his original post that I quoted was one of his more succinct....nonetheless, he´s got some good viewpoints worth considering and I´m glad he posts them.

[AndyLee]

One thing worth considering is that so many, many of these girls of Colombia live in the barrios because they had no choice. Either they were born there or forced there by life´s circumstances. Intelligence doesn´t count for much in this country (Colombia) because of the class structure. A really stupid girl from Poblado Dos has way more opportunities than a really intelligent girl from estrado 1 or 2.
A good example is my former girl friend who grew up on a coffee farm in the north of Antioquia and stood in the window and watched her father and her brother shot dead in the front yard because FARC wanted that farm, like thousands of others they took by force. She and her mother and sisters fled to one of the communes in Medellin where her sisters became prostitutes so they could pay her way through university. She´s now a pharmacist and has paid the way for her sisters through university. One is an accountant helping small business start ups, another is a lawyer fighting for family rights. These girls may be exceptions, but I´m using them as examples to show that just because a girl lives in a barrio does not mean she is automatically a puta and an interesada. And just because she is a puta now does not mean she will never amount to anything.
In my honest opinion I wish the extreme republicans in the US who want to strip all social services could be made to live here for just a few months. They would see what they are trying to accomplish in the US has already been accomplished here. No social services means no unemployment insurance, no retirement benefits, no medical care, no pre or post natal care, no sex education even at the basic levels, pretty much nothing except the three R´s would be taught in school, 56 percent of the population would live in poverty, and 36 percent of the population would live in extreme poverty and the real unemployment rate would be about 40 percent. That´s what the US would become under the extreme republican wish list. Just my opinion.
My question is, in the Philippines, is it just the poor barrio girls who are receptive to advances on the street, or is it girls from all class levels?

[buencamino]

Well Andy regarding your commercial interest I think Latin America and the Philippines are pretty saturated. Perhaps you should consider Haiti or the Gabonese Republic.

[Chris F]

Can someone sum up what was said in the links Calipro posted?  I'm too lazy to click and read them for myself.

Well Awsome...I can summarize the first link for you fairly easy.

Play a good game with as many Filipinas as you can so you can f&*k your brains out on a daily basis.

Really....that about covers it.
 

[Chris F]

Can someone sum up what was said in the links Calipro posted?  I'm too lazy to click and read them for myself.

Ok Awesome here is the summary for link number two.

For the most part of the second link, the focus is on players on a budget looking to bang cute young girls with minimal financial investment.

That's about it.
 
 

[Chris F]

Can someone sum up what was said in the links Calipro posted?  I'm too lazy to click and read them for myself.

Here is the summary Awesome from link number 3.

The main focus of this link is about guys trip reports about banging all the women they had met on web cam before their trip.
 

[utopiacowboy]

It's like I tell my sons. Eventually you realize you can't do them all. Even if you did one a day that's only 365 women a year and only 3650 over ten years. An impressive feat but pretty pathetic when you realize there are over three and a half billion women on the planet. As many hot women as there are, no man will be able to do more than a minuscule fraction of them. Even my youngest stepson who is a true mujeriego if there ever was one brought home a girlfriend last weekend so he may be throwing in the towel after an impressive "career".

[Elexpatriado]

I guess Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas and others tried..and now they are paying for it.ok Maybe not the former..but you get the idea. Another reason to be looking fora long term serious relation .

Personally, I tend to weed out the girls who have been sloppy seconds with dozens of other  guys.

I think finding someone suitable for a long term relation is the ultimate goal of most guys on this site. Whether one achieves it is another story.


As far as Filipinas, I am not into Asiatic women, and am quite happy with the women I meet in Colombia. I have met some really lovely women, even from estrata  2. Nobody I have decided to be "The one" yet.


I havent found anyone on my intellectual level yet, but nor do I expect to. As long as they are kind-hearted, affectionate, intelligent, inquisitive, and willing to learn, that's all that matters.

It's like I tell my sons. Eventually you realize you can't do them all. Even if you did one a day that's only 365 women a year and only 3650 over ten years. An impressive feat but pretty pathetic when you realize there are over three and a half billion women on the planet. As many hot women as there are, no man will be able to do more than a minuscule fraction of them. Even my youngest stepson who is a true mujeriego if there ever was one brought home a girlfriend last weekend so he may be throwing in the towel after an impressive "career".

[Kiltboy1]

I have 3 friends that have been married to the Pinas for anywhere from 5-12 years and before that they dated several Colombianas. Their opinion, not mine and I quote

" The difference between Filipinas and Colombianas is that FilIpinas want to please you and make you happy and Colombianas want you to please them and make them happy"

Again, their words not mine so your milage may vary.

KB

[utopiacowboy]

I have 3 friends that have been married to the Pinas for anywhere from 5-12 years and before that they dated several Colombianas. Their opinion, not mine and I quote

" The difference between Filipinas and Colombianas is that FilIpinas want to please you and make you happy and Colombianas want you to please them and make them happy"

Again, their words not mine so your milage may vary.

KB

Luckily for me my mileage has varied. When I get home both my wife and her sister are eager to ply me with food and drink and wait on me hand and foot. I just lost 23 pounds and it's all I can do to fend off their offers. Now if they were offering a twosome en la cama that's an offer I would eagerly accept. Sadly that won't be happening  ![size=78%] [/size]

[benjio]

...they do seem to be more, relaxed, easy going than colombians and of course, most speak desent english,

Problem with generalizations about Colombianas is they're all based on big city girls. Most gringos only have experience with girls from Bogota, Medellin, Cali or Barranquilla. Colombia isn't a small country. I can honestly tell you all that the dating scene and women in general are drastically different once you start exploring your options in the smaller, mid-sized cities. There are hundreds of thousands of single, beautiful, down to Earth women that don't fit into the many stereotypes I've read here. The most attractive and devoted girlfriend I ever had lived in Neiva. She was literally a beauty queen (won the largest pageant in the city a few years before I met her). The only reason we aren't married today is because of my own hang ups.


There are still tons of great women in the big cities of Colombia. What I've begin to realize is a lot of gringos here haven't immersed themselves in the culture and Colombian Society to the extent that them being foreigners doesn't play such a huge factor in their dating success. So yes, they might run across the occasional prepago even if that's not exactly what they're looking for. If you're using your foreigner card as bait you're gonna catch some piranhas. This site has taken more of a cautionary tone as supposed to guidance. I'm not sure if that has to do with the personal experiences of the posters or the questions being asked by newbies. Again though...there are still entirely too many good women in Colombia to get hung up on all that other BS.


This thread puts way too much weight on where a woman is from and her culture and almost completely ignores the reality that there are bat $hit crazy, gold digging bitc#es and wife material type of girls all over the world. It's our responsibility to figure out how to weed out the bad girls and figure out what we really want. I know plenty of guys like CaliPro in Latin America that aren't really looking for anything serious and they're just enjoying the local "fare." Nothing wrong with that if all parties involved are honest. There are other guys looking for wives but go about it in the wrong way. It's almost as if the rules of dating somehow escape their memory as soon as they hop on a plane. Personally, if I were you all I'd be more worried about whether I was more physically attracted to Filipinas or Latinas. I've dated both. No real difference in my opinion. All depends on the individual.

[mudd]

Problem with generalizations about Colombianas is they're all based on big city girls. Most gringos only have experience with girls from Bogota, Medellin, Cali or Barranquilla. Colombia isn't a small country. I can honestly tell you all that the dating scene and women in general are drastically different once you start exploring your options in the smaller, mid-sized cities. There are hundreds of thousands of single, beautiful, down to Earth women that don't fit into the many stereotypes I've read here. The most attractive and devoted girlfriend I ever had lived in Neiva. She was literally a beauty queen (won the largest pageant in the city a few years before I met her). The only reason we aren't married today is because of my own hang ups. There are still tons of great women in the big cities of Colombia. What I've begin to realize is a lot of gringos here haven't immersed themselves in the culture and Colombian Society to the extent that the fact that they're foreigners doesn't play such a huge factor. So yes, they might run across the occasional prepago even if that's not exactly what they're looking for. If you're using your foreigner card as bait you're gonna catch some piranhas. This site has taken more of a cautionary tone as supposed to guidance. I'm not sure if that has to do with the personal experiences of the posters or the questions being asked by newbies. Again though...there are still entirely too many good women in Colombia to get hung up on all that other BS. This thread puts way too much weight on where a woman is from and her culture and almost completely ignores the reality that there are bat $hit crazy, gold digging bitc#es and wife material type of girls all over the world. It's our responsibility to figure out how to weed out the bad girls. If I were you all I'd be more worried about whether I was more physically attracted to Filipinas or Latinas.

agreed, one of the smartest, nicest girls i have ever met  was a girl from a small town outside moscow, this girl was studying to become a doctor, would do anything for you. my jacket strap ripped off and couldn't hang it on the wall, . after i went to sleep, she re-sowed it on herself.  her parents were just as nice, retired teacher and military. brother was engineer. she started studying english and pick up pretty good amount of vocabulary in about thee weeks, i was impressed,


unfortunately i was young and stupid and let her get away.  best girls are in the small towns, not in the big cities.

[Elexpatriado]

As a generalization you can say there are less spoiled girls in the small towns,than in the bigc ities, but as Benji pointed out, there are still a lot of good ones in the big cities. And  there a lot more girls, period in the big cities, so you can play the "numbers" game. Sure you will ened up going through a lot of prepagos, gold diggers ad flakes, but you can laff this stuff off-- and just weed them out.
Who cares if you waste a little time and money here and there. Best way is too be respectful to them, even though they may not be to you, and when it becomes obvious (it ususlly does early) cut them loose and go on to the next one.
There are problems with "nice" girls too. If they are really hardworking types, you will find it hard to spend  alot of time with them and get to know them good.

[robert angel]

I think making generalizations on anybody --any group of people who has moved from another country and lived in California for any number of years and assuming those again 'generalizations' to apply to that same person, group of persons who moved and live elsewhere in the USA, is a big, big mistake.

Chances are a Filipina who's spent five years living in L.A. or San Diego is going to have a different mindset than one who moved to say Atlanta or Cleveland.

California, especially in the more densely populated areas, often has an effect on people unlike almost any other places.

I hate to prejudge people, but when I meet someone who's moved to our area from California, I am sort of on the look out for certain things and more often than not, these things become apparent.

As for things having changed in the way relationships either come along or don't in Colombia, I dare say substantial changes have also occurred in the Philippines, but that there being over a 100 million people and 7000 islands, including millions of desirable, educated and I again dare say more 'traditional' Pinas in the more rural areas, the bloom's not completely off the rose there yet.  YET!!

[bcc_1_2]

agreed, one of the smartest, nicest girls i have ever met  was a girl from a small town outside moscow, this girl was studying to become a doctor, would do anything for you. my jacket strap ripped off and couldn't hang it on the wall, . after i went to sleep, she re-sowed it on herself.  her parents were just as nice, retired teacher and military. brother was engineer. she started studying english and pick up pretty good amount of vocabulary in about thee weeks, i was impressed,


unfortunately i was young and stupid and let her get away.  best girls are in the small towns, not in the big cities.

Generalizations all have their drawbacks. There are big city girls tired of the big city and find a mid sized US city much better for them (less stressful, more relaxing). I've heard one Colombiana in particular note how peaceful the drive was to the restaurant. No smokey streets, no ride on the seedy jam packed transmilenio... just a leisurely evening ride.


My life is "stress" in Bogota. Here I am "relax" LOL

[Hector_Lavoe]

While my preference is for Latinas I do find Asian/Pacific Islander women attractive, especially Filipinas and Thai women.

I love the combination of both. A fair number of mixed Latina/Asian women can be found in California. I met this half Latina/Filipina (U.S. born) lady recently at a coffee house in Los Angeles.



She had just broken off a serious relationship. I was able to get her number and we even set up a date. Unfortunately, she rescheduled and then disappeared on me. I am guessing if I met her in Manilla or Medellin that first date would have been more likely.   

[Elexpatriado]

I hope you are kidding with the last part....

Luckily for me my mileage has varied. When I get home both my wife and her sister are eager to ply me with food and drink and wait on me hand and foot. I just lost 23 pounds and it's all I can do to fend off their offers. Now if they were offering a twosome en la cama that's an offer I would eagerly accept. Sadly that won't be happening  !

[Elexpatriado]

nothing wrong with her...

While my preference is for Latinas I do find Asian/Pacific Islander women attractive, especially Filipinas and Thai women.

I love the combination of both. A fair number of mixed Latina/Asian women can be found in California. I met this half Latina/Filipina (U.S. born) lady recently at a coffee house in Los Angeles.



She had just broken off a serious relationship. I was able to get her number and we even set up a date. Unfortunately, she rescheduled and then disappeared on me. I am guessing if I met her in Manilla or Medellin that first date would have been more likely.

[benjio]

nothing wrong with her...

Except for the fact she's a flake! I've never understood why women don't just learn to say, "I'm not interested." I stopped needing someone to spare my feelings in grade school.