Panama: An alternative meeting place

[Stevieboy]

my only issues with Stevie's strategy is I'd never marry a woman without meeting her family. Also, seeing how she lives will help you get a sense of her life over there so you can imagine some of the challenges she'll face and some of the positive and negative things she'll leave behind. But Stevie's a grown ass man and obviously pretty ballsy. Getting married is a gut feel thing and a man reaches a point in his life where he trusts his instincts...

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You damn right Bro! Haha! I definitely had prerequisites she had to meet for that consideration. The personal meeting would answer the rest. I think while you were writing, I was answering FT. I agree about the not seeing how she lives, but I'm more interested how she lives here than there. Like I told FT, she works all day, and stays home the rest. She also doesn't care for where she lives. It's like me; I grew up in El Paso, and could care less if that place got swallowed by the sand. The only reason I visit is to see the parents, and that's once a year. She doesn't have much close family either. There's more when I replied to FT.   

[fathertime]

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What did your wife do in BAQ? Did she get a better job later? Or does she not work? I myself prefer a woman who works so she keeps busy, and doesn't stay home getting brainwashed by daytime TV and get fat. Downside to work is possible feminist peer pressure from female co-workers.
   

My wife managed a higher end type clothing store in Barranquilla...the clothing was far more expensive than what we have here in normal stores so I'm not sure who was buying these expensive clothes but the business seemed to be thriving.  I used to dress shabbily, never cared much about clothing and or style, still don't...but I dress much much better nowadays thanks to her.


Here in the states she has not worked...although our son starts preschool in less than 2 weeks..so that will probably be a game changer as she will be totally freed up and she would like to earn some money that she can call her own.




  How old is your lady, she looks like she is perhaps 24? My wife was almost 24 when she arrived in the states and I'm a crusty 17.5 years older than her.
Fathertime! 

[JWR]

She doesn't have much relationship with her parents, and they live in Florida. She lives with her grandma. I speak with her grandma by Skype time and agin, and my gal hates where she lives, so she's not eager to show it off. It would however be good to visit grandma in the next months to give respect even though she gives blessings to my novia to "go for it". Plenty of time, considering the K1 wait. Maybe fly grandma to Panama, haha. 
 
 

Hey there are a few other pretty places in Colombia that you could meet up without spending the money to fly them out to Panama.  Maybe meet up in Cali or Bogota.   They could just hop on a bus and meet up with you.  I spent some time in Panama City last year, and I actually prefer some places in Colombia.

[mambocowboy]

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 I myself prefer a woman who works so she keeps busy, and doesn't stay home getting brainwashed by daytime TV and get fat. Downside to work is possible feminist peer pressure from female co-workers.
   

Her making money will be a positive for the both of you. There's no way to avoid your wife being influenced  in a negative way once she gets to the States. All you can do is give her positive opportunities that cancel out the negative energy you two might encounter. Everyone she comes into contact with will be asking about you two. Many women will be jealous of her and many men will be jealous of you. That's unavoidable......

[robert angel]

She doesn't have much relationship with her parents, and they live in Florida. She lives with her grandma. I speak with her grandma by Skype time and agin, and my gal hates where she lives, so she's not eager to show it off. It would however be good to visit grandma in the next months to give respect even though she gives blessings to my novia to "go for it". Plenty of time, considering the K1 wait. Maybe fly grandma to Panama, haha. 

   

Hopefully it's nothing to worry about, and it probably sounds (again) like 'Dr. Phil', but having lived through it and just in case--here's a heads up. Hope there's no big emotional issues from her parental situation. Things like abandonment worries, even post traumatic stress issues, can be small problems now, or can show themselves later in a bigger way.
 
There's often a fair amount of emotions, ups and downs in a romance already. Along with sparks, you have volatility and things can blow up sometimes.  Take in the 'kisses and hand grenades' dynamics that some relationships have already and it gives pause as to wondering how much crazier things can get down the line.
 
 
NOT saying she's like this--they're are NO indicators that she's like it, but being with someone for a long time, I'd get real tired if I found myself dealing with a lot of emotions coming unwound, of not knowing what I was coming home to. Been there, done that and paid the piper.
 
 
I think it's a good thing to go to her town. Maybe if it's just her and her Grandmother it's a different scenario, but you talking about visiting her and 'respect' sounds good. I'd find the money and logistics a pain, but probably well worth it. I took a 3 hour ride through terrorist ridden areas (with my wife's three brothers along, watching out for me) to my wife's village.
 
I saw the people she grew up around, what tensions and conflicts there were and how they were resolved. I met her friends, saw the people she told me were bad news and got a sense for the dynamics of her family life. Yes, it was still a controlled access situation for me, but it revealed a lot.

 
Hopefully she's not super uneven emotion wise and doesn't have any big issues or land mines down the road, but you've laid out a couple things that made me go 'Hmmm' a little bit. This forum can serve a purpose towards pointing out things that can go right or wrong. Hopefully again, there's nothing (other than the usual) to worry about.

[JWR]

I agree with Robert 100 o/o on this one.  When you meet a girl that has little to no relationship with her parents and other family members, it's a very good idea to pay attention.  Even though the visa process is long and tedious, it's way easier to get into one of these situations/marriages, then to get out with your sanity and money in tact.  Finding someone who is emotionally healthy and stable will definitely contribute to your long term success.  Even though you've made your decision, and are doing documents, still try to keep your eyes open.  You're a young good looking guy, and have tons of options.  We wish you success, but we don't want you to end up joining our "club" of guys that have divorced one of these girls.

Hopefully it's nothing to worry about, and it probably sounds (again) like 'Dr. Phil', but having lived through it and just in case--here's a heads up. Hope there's no big emotional issues from her parental situation. Things like abandonment worries, even post traumatic stress issues, can be small problems now, or can show themselves later in a bigger way.
 
There's often a fair amount of emotions, ups and downs in a romance already. Along with sparks, you have volatility and things can blow up sometimes.  Take in the 'kisses and hand grenades' dynamics that some relationships have already and it gives pause as to wondering how much crazier things can get down the line.
 
 
NOT saying she's like this--they're are NO indicators that she's like it, but being with someone for a long time, I'd get real tired if I found myself dealing with a lot of emotions coming unwound, of not knowing what I was coming home to. Been there, done that and paid the piper.
 
 
I think it's a good thing to go to her town. Maybe if it's just her and her Grandmother it's a different scenario, but you talking about visiting her and 'respect' sounds good. I'd find the money and logistics a pain, but probably well worth it. I took a 3 hour ride through terrorist ridden areas (with my wife's three brothers along, watching out for me) to my wife's village.
 
I saw the people she grew up around, what tensions and conflicts there were and how they were resolved. I met her friends, saw the people she told me were bad news and got a sense for the dynamics of her family life. Yes, it was still a controlled access situation for me, but it revealed a lot.

 
Hopefully she's not super uneven emotion wise and doesn't have any big issues or land mines down the road, but you've laid out a couple things that made me go 'Hmmm' a little bit. This forum can serve a purpose towards pointing out things that can go right or wrong. Hopefully again, there's nothing (other than the usual) to worry about.

[Awesome]

Damn, dental assistants in colombia only make 2 bucks an hour?  She seems like a good, hardworking, sweet girl.  Hurry up and get her over her SB!

[Stevieboy]

 

Her making money will be a positive for the both of you. There's no way to avoid your wife being influenced  in a negative way once she gets to the States. All you can do is give her positive opportunities that cancel out the negative energy you two might encounter. Everyone she comes into contact with will be asking about you two. Many women will be jealous of her and many men will be jealous of you. That's unavoidable......

Many women ARE jealous, especially friends' girlfriends and wives. They're insulted that I go to another country to find my mate. "What, you want a submissive woman"?. YEAH! And my friends give me a high five when their ladies aren't looking. They agree the quality of woman here sucks. I have one buddy in particular who can't wait to see the looks on his wife and other women's faces when they see me with a younger prettier woman on my arm.   
 

Hopefully it's nothing to worry about, and it probably sounds (again) like 'Dr. Phil', but having lived through it and just in case--here's a heads up. Hope there's no big emotional issues from her parental situation. Things like abandonment worries, even post traumatic stress issues, can be small problems now, or can show themselves later in a bigger way.
 
There's often a fair amount of emotions, ups and downs in a romance already. Along with sparks, you have volatility and things can blow up sometimes.  Take in the 'kisses and hand grenades' dynamics that some relationships have already and it gives pause as to wondering how much crazier things can get down the line.
 
 
NOT saying she's like this--they're are NO indicators that she's like it, but being with someone for a long time, I'd get real tired if I found myself dealing with a lot of emotions coming unwound, of not knowing what I was coming home to. Been there, done that and paid the piper.
 
 
I think it's a good thing to go to her town. Maybe if it's just her and her Grandmother it's a different scenario, but you talking about visiting her and 'respect' sounds good. I'd find the money and logistics a pain, but probably well worth it. I took a 3 hour ride through terrorist ridden areas (with my wife's three brothers along, watching out for me) to my wife's village.
 
I saw the people she grew up around, what tensions and conflicts there were and how they were resolved. I met her friends, saw the people she told me were bad news and got a sense for the dynamics of her family life. Yes, it was still a controlled access situation for me, but it revealed a lot.

 
Hopefully she's not super uneven emotion wise and doesn't have any big issues or land mines down the road, but you've laid out a couple things that made me go 'Hmmm' a little bit. This forum can serve a purpose towards pointing out things that can go right or wrong. Hopefully again, there's nothing (other than the usual) to worry about.

You wrote a lot, so I'll say I agree about the emotional factors, but I'm not worried. She's pretty tough and even worries less about things I worry about more.         
 

Damn, dental assistants in colombia only make 2 bucks an hour?  She seems like a good, hardworking, sweet girl.  Hurry up and get her over her SB!

I've already been visiting dental offices that cater to Spanish speaking customers, and they were ready to give me applications, but they require some English speaking of her. No prob. I'll buy a whole season of Family Guy and sit her in front of the TV and translate for her.       
 

I agree with Robert 100 o/o on this one.  When you meet a girl that has little to no relationship with her parents and other family members, it's a very good idea to pay attention.  Even though the visa process is long and tedious, it's way easier to get into one of these situations/marriages, then to get out with your sanity and money in tact.  Finding someone who is emotionally healthy and stable will definitely contribute to your long term success.  Even though you've made your decision, and are doing documents, still try to keep your eyes open.  You're a young good looking guy, and have tons of options.  We wish you success, but we don't want you to end up joining our "club" of guys that have divorced one of these girls.

Don't know if I'm too young, I'm in my 40s and been down the road myself. Wish there was a section of that "club" you mention so we could learn from their mistakes. Thing is, every man is different as well as their situation. One can't assume what happens to guy is gonna happen to another. I had a friend who had a rather violent relationship with his girlfriend and they used to fight and yell all the time. They broke up, and a few years later we accidentally wound up hooking up at a bar. We were together for 3 years and NEVER yelled at each other, best friends, best sex, Sooo.   

My wife managed a higher end type clothing store in Barranquilla...the clothing was far more expensive than what we have here in normal stores so I'm not sure who was buying these expensive clothes but the business seemed to be thriving.  I used to dress shabbily, never cared much about clothing and or style, still don't...but I dress much much better nowadays thanks to her.

Here in the states she has not worked...although our son starts preschool in less than 2 weeks..so that will probably be a game changer as she will be totally freed up and she would like to earn some money that she can call her own.

  How old is your lady, she looks like she is perhaps 24? My wife was almost 24 when she arrived in the states and I'm a crusty 17.5 years older than her.
Fathertime!

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I somewhat dress shabby myself because it's the style where I live, but still wear decent threads when going out. I dressed down purposely in Panama because I noticed she didn't have many clothes in her suitcase, and I didn't want to out shine her. I'd rather her look nicer than me. Notice I wore a goat T and wore shorts? Some guys keep thinking one has to shave his face and wear pants to attract Colombian women. Wrong. They're attracted to American men, period.   
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I myself would prefer her to stay home with child until child can go to school. My ex, although Hispanic, was a career woman and preferred working her career, therefore, our daughter was in daycare. Don't miss that person.
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She's 26 and I'm 17 yrs older than her. Are you and I about the same age? Speaking of children, I know she's gonna want at least two. Do you have kids from another lady? Are you more tired physically having children this time round? I don't want children until we've enjoyed our company for at least a couple of years, but then, I'll be over 45 and I cringe to the idea of waking up to a crying baby at 5 am. I'm hoping my new wife will handle more of that, than my ex did.   
 

[Stevieboy]

Hey, who's admin here. I forgot. I need to send a PM. 

[mambocowboy]

 

Many women ARE jealous, especially friends' girlfriends and wives. They're insulted that I go to another country to find my mate. "What, you want a submissive woman"?. YEAH! And my friends give me a high five when their ladies aren't looking. They agree the quality of woman here sucks. I have one buddy in particular who can't wait to see the looks on his wife and other women's faces when they see me with a younger prettier woman on my arm.   
 

Based on my experiences, I'm quite sure American women will hate you, and as attractive as your fiancée is, men will be hitting on her constantly...
 

[mambocowboy]

 
I myself would prefer her to stay home with child until child can go to school. My ex, although Hispanic, was a career woman and preferred working her career, therefore, our daughter was in daycare. Don't miss that person.
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She's 26 and I'm 17 yrs older than her. Are you and I about the same age? Speaking of children, I know she's gonna want at least two. Do you have kids from another lady? Are you more tired physically having children this time round? I don't want children until we've enjoyed our company for at least a couple of years, but then, I'll be over 45 and I cringe to the idea of waking up to a crying baby at 5 am. I'm hoping my new wife will handle more of that, than my ex did.   

The children issue/question is very important. If my now wife had expressed any ambivalence about having kids before coming here I would've broken off the relationship. I wanted kids and was very clear about that. We have a 5 month old girl now, but after my wife got here her family and friends were all advising her to wait and get to know me first before having kids. She ignored their advice , obviously... We agreed to try for 2 kids and then when they're in preschool she can resume her nursing career. That was all agreed to before she set foot in this country. Obviously, she could have changed her mind after getting here and I'd be SOL...At any rate, for guys bringing a woman from overseas, if in response to the question "do you want to have kids with me?" she says something like "yes, but later," that means most likely she'll never have them because she'll be focused on other things like making money....

[Stevieboy]

The children issue/question is very important. If my now wife had expressed any ambivalence about having kids before coming here I would've broken off the relationship. I wanted kids and was very clear about that. We have a 5 month old girl now, but after my wife got here her family and friends were all advising her to wait and get to know me first before having kids. She ignored their advice , obviously... We agreed to try for 2 kids and then when they're in preschool she can resume her nursing career. That was all agreed to before she set foot in this country. Obviously, she could have changed her mind after getting here and I'd be SOL...At any rate, for guys bringing a woman from overseas, if in response to the question "do you want to have kids with me?" she says something like "yes, but later," that means most likely she'll never have them because she'll be focused on other things like making money....

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This one wants them right away, but after I painted her a picture of us living together, sight seeing together, her working and earning and saving her own money, her owning and driving her own car (Used Honda $4K max  ), us waking up late on weekends after a late evening on the town and having sex all day without the responsibility of a child, she changed her mind and opted to wait a while. The opposite happened with my ex- wife. This time, it's my turn.

[InnocentVixen]

very interesting post and story.


I do think it's wise to wait a little bit before children to adapt to married life regardless of where you are going to live, after all, if things don't work out, would you want to stay with a woman that is only with you because of the child? that doesn't sound healthy to me.


That being said, if you both feel ready then delaying it would probably only cause unnecessary tension. The surprise factor kind of kicks you off balance, in my case I am so glad I have the option at least to be in my country, being in the states with our little honeymoon surprise would have made things hard for us I think.

[Awesome]

 Notice I wore a goat T and wore shorts? Some guys keep thinking one has to shave his face and wear pants to attract Colombian women. Wrong. They're attracted to American men, period.

Wow, sb you sound like an expert on the subject.  How many colombian women have you dated?

[Awesome]

I do think it's wise to wait a little bit before children to adapt to married life regardless of where you are going to live, after all, if things don't work out, would you want to stay with a woman that is only with you because of the child? that doesn't sound healthy to me.

Another reason to wait at least a little while...CHILD SUPPORT hahaha!!!

[fathertime]

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She's 26 and I'm 17 yrs older than her. Are you and I about the same age? Speaking of children, I know she's gonna want at least two. Do you have kids from another lady? Are you more tired physically having children this time round? I don't want children until we've enjoyed our company for at least a couple of years, but then, I'll be over 45 and I cringe to the idea of waking up to a crying baby at 5 am. I'm hoping my new wife will handle more of that, than my ex did.   

Hey Stevie,  I'm 45 now so I think I have seniority over you! haha


Regarding children..yes i've got other children in the home with us...this time around has been a little different for sure...i haven't slept as well as I did pre-baby but I guess that is par for the course...you should definitely speak with your lady and make sure she is aware that if there are children down the line that she is going to be the one doing the vast majority of the duties..those lazy Saturday mornings you described earlier are few and far between now...but it was fun while it lasted!


Fathertime!

[Stevieboy]

You should definitely speak with your lady and make sure she is aware that if there are children down the line that she is going to be the one doing the vast majority of the duties.

Fathertime!

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That's the beauty of Latin A women. We've had this conversation, and she took to it naturally. An American woman, on the other hand... 
 

Wow, sb you sound like an expert on the subject.  How many colombian women have you dated?

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Not an expert,  just call them as I see them. But, to answer your subtle sarcasm, been there, done that three times this year (in person). 

[benjio]

I somewhat dress shabby myself because it's the style where I live, but still wear decent threads when going out. I dressed down purposely in Panama because I noticed she didn't have many clothes in her suitcase, and I didn't want to out shine her. I'd rather her look nicer than me. Notice I wore a goat T and wore shorts? Some guys keep thinking one has to shave his face and wear pants to attract Colombian women. Wrong. They're attracted to American men, period.   

Wow, sb you sound like an expert on the subject.  How many colombian women have you dated?

Not an expert,  just call them as I see them. But, to answer your subtle sarcasm, been there, done that three times this year (in person).

I agree with Stevie. Being American is more than enough...BELIEVE ME! But dressing nice while you're out on the hunt can make a huge difference in the quality of women you attract. I met an absolutely gorgeous girl from a rich background in Bogota because she appreciated my fashion sense. I actually assumed she was a prepago because she talked about name brand clothing so much. But that was just her thing. It means more to some women than others, but it always means something. From my experience that's true anywhere in the modern world. Just remember, if you're all GQ while you're courting a girl and switch to Sweats Man the Comfortable Hero when you two get serious, you're probably going to hear about that. Colombianas generally don't let up. Boyfriend, Husband or single, they're going to bring their A-Game on most days. Stevie's right..most women don't want a man that's "prettier" than them. But they do want someone who compliments their appearance.
 
Some guys can pull off a 5 o'clock shadow and it really looks good on them. Other can't. It also depends alot on the woman's taste. Unfortunately I can't shave everyday although my facial hair grows very fast. My skin is too sensitive. I break out. So I'll usually get a little "stubbly" between shaves. Every single girl I dated in Colombia absolutely hated it. But the girls I've gotten serious with have seen how I break out when they ask me to shave too often. All of them eventually decided a little stubble was tolerable. With Latinas it's more about the way it feels, not the way it looks. They like to touch our faces. The full-on Marvin Gaye, Rick Ross beard ain't gonna cut it in Latin America, but you can get away with a little fuzz.

[Stevieboy]

   
 
Some guys can pull off a 5 o'clock shadow and it really looks good on them. Other can't. It also depends alot on the woman's taste.

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If I let my goat grow too long, it gets too bushy. If I keep it short, they like it, and they find the peppered gray hairs masculine.  Benjio is right, about a man dressing well having better results picking up beautiful women, but every man has a different style, and dressing like someone you're not will show thru. Women find men attractive for many reasons; One, is being original.   
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FT mentioned he dresses better these days now with his wife. I probably will too to accentuate her, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna  change my style because she's from "Colombia". I bet once my Lady gets here, she's gonna dress like the other local girls do and will go crazy at the mall, while Papi flips the bill. I don't give papaya, but I cant wait to see her in a thin summer dress with spaghetti straps. You know the one's I'm talking about? [drooling].  I would also love to see her quit penciling in her eye brows. I'm crossing my fingers for that one.

[Awesome]

Being American is more than enough...BELIEVE ME!

Come on dude you can't be serious.  I know plenty of americans living in colombia and they have a hard time pulling decent looking chicks.


Being american can be an advantage IF you know how to use it.  Emphasis on the IF.  Going around looking like a homeless guy and thinking chicks are going to flock to you just because you're american isn't going to get you very far, trust me.


I'm pretty sure the only chicks sb has "dated" are chicks who he met on his cupid dating websites.  Yea of course those chicks signed up on those websites specifically to hook up with a gringo to sponsor their visa and don't care so much about looks or style but that doesn't mean most colombianas are like that.

[Stevieboy]

Come on dude you can't be serious.  I know plenty of americans living in colombia and they have a hard time pulling decent looking chicks.


Being american can be an advantage IF you know how to use it.  Emphasis on the IF.  Going around looking like a homeless guy and thinking chicks are going to flock to you just because you're american isn't going to get you very far, trust me.


I'm pretty sure the only chicks sb has "dated" are chicks who he met on his cupid dating websites.  Yea of course those chicks signed up on those websites specifically to hook up with a gringo to sponsor their visa and don't care so much about looks or style but that doesn't mean most colombianas are like that.

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For a guy who's new to this site, you sure talk a lot of smack and show little discourse. Or maybe, you're someone who's been kicked off this site or black balled and came back with a different name, therefore Admin should pay attention & look into you. The first week you joined as a "Probie" you had zero visits to Colombia and talked big about what you knew, then a couple days later, you have 1-3 visits all of sudden. That means you lied when you filled out your profile the first time, then got discovered and corrected it. Who hasn't chimed in on PL lately who usually does, and always has something to say, then all of a sudden some nobody called "Awesome" comes along and thinks he's the HNIC. I think whomever is missing, IS, Awesome & trolling as usual.       
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As for the chicks I dated YES, they are from Cupid as many men here on PL. I was answering your question, that if I had personally dated Col women in person, and I answered you. Don't try sliding other BS requisites in after the fact. You sound like Obama. And BTW, I have met Col women on the fly while wearing a goat-t with pictures to show it here on PL. But you remember that don't you?

[Awesome]

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For a guy who's new to this site, you sure talk a lot of smack and show little discourse. Or maybe, you're someone who's been kicked off this site or black balled and came back with a different name, therefore Admin should pay attention & look into you. The first week you joined as a "Probie" you had zero visits to Colombia and talked big about what you knew, then a couple days later, you have 1-3 visits all of sudden. That means you lied when you filled out your profile the first time, then got discovered and corrected it. Who hasn't chimed in on PL lately who usually does, and always has something to say, then all of a sudden some nobody called "Awesome" comes along and thinks he's the HNIC. I think whomever is missing, IS, Awesome & trolling as usual.       
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As for the chicks I dated YES, they are from Cupid. I was answering your question, if I had personally date Col women, and I answered you. Don't try sliding other BS requisites in after the fact. You sound like Obama. And BTW, I have met Col women on the fly while wearing a goat-t with pictures to show it here on PL. But you remember that don't you?

You mad bro?  Lmao!!


I'm just disagreeing with you and benjio when you say colombian women don't care how you look or dress and they automatically want to be with any american just because he's american.


You're right about one thing I definitely am the HNIC!!!!

[fathertime]

I remember when I first started out, people said that Colombian ladies didn't like hairy chests so I should shave my body...others said that shaving my nuts was something the women would want... I thought to myself...to hell with all that...instead I loped around with my top button or two of my shirt unbuttoned...i've NEVER shaved my nuts...and sometimes I went to colombia with a goatee...I'm sure some ladies didn't like all of this but I wasn't going to change these things about me...Despite my 'shortcomings' I still scored a beauty queen and i got the privilege of being myself in the process! 


...nowadays as a married guy,  I've got a long 4 inch goatee....my feeling is that we as individuals should do what WE want to do, and whichever women like/accept these start of styles will be the ones to choose from....and there will likely be some!






Fathertime! 

[Stevieboy]

You mad bro?  Lmao!!


I'm just disagreeing with you and benjio when you say colombian women don't care how you look or dress and they automatically want to be with any american just because he's american.


You're right about one thing I definitely am the HNIC!!!!

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Not mad, just calling you out. I, nor Benjio NEVER said Col women don't care how we look. You're trying to imply that. Don't twist the conversation. However, if you yourself need a make-over to pick up the ladies, then I understand your argument. 

[fathertime]

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FT mentioned he dresses better these days now with his wife. I probably will too to accentuate her, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna  change my style because she's from "Colombia". I bet once my Lady gets here, she's gonna dress like the other local girls do and will go crazy at the mall, while Papi flips the bill. I don't give papaya, but I cant wait to see her in a thin summer dress with spaghetti straps. You know the one's I'm talking about? [drooling].  I would also love to see her quit penciling in her eye brows. I'm crossing my fingers for that one.

Your lady has nice looking eyebrows...I didn't notice they were penciled in...I never understood why some latina women do this sorta thing..I've seen some ladies around here that must bic their eyebrows completely and all they have is the penciled in ones...I'm not sure which guys find this to be a good thing...but there must be some guys out there that dig it otherwise why would they do it?


Fathertime!