Why not just get married in their country?

[Stevieboy]

  Why not exactly?  You don't think it would be nice to have your woman a 3 hr drive away while you wait for the visa?  Anyway it's just an idea that may or may not fit into your schedule and budget.

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Sure, but it's dangerous there, and she'd be safer & less lonely with her family. It's not 3 hours from me. More like 4.5.  Remember, these are what if scenarios, it's not what's going to happen.   

Another idea would be to just bring her over illegally.  Then once she's with you in austin you can marry her and fix her papers.  It would be pretty easy actually, cost about the same, and be way faster.

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Too risky, and if she gets caught, she'll be deported and be even harder if not impossible later.
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To answer your question about my business, I already have, yet won't  divulge what it is for competitive reasons.
DAMN, I still can't get the quote thing right!

[mambocowboy]

How do you know?  Are you the expert of all colombians who have ever lived?  If it was me and I wanted my colombian fiance to live in mexico I guarantee I'd convince her and her family to go along with it.  Of course your budget would have alot to do with it. 









Guess what bro.  There are things called airplanes that fly back and forth between bogota and other places in the world, including mexico.

Actually, Boy, I don't know everything but I'm a lot more experienced with the visa process than you are.

[htown]

Actually, Boy, I don't know everything but I'm a lot more experienced with the visa process than you are.

How do you know how much experience I have with the "visa process"?  Do you know my life history?  Are you psychic?

[htown]

"Sure, but it's dangerous there, and she'd be safer & less lonely with her family. It's not 3 hours from me. More like 4.5.  Remember, these are what if scenarios, it's not what's going to happen."   


Yea I was just throwing out some ideas that may or may not fit your situation.

It looks like you're just going to have to do the k1 visa and wait it out like everyone else on here.  Oh well 6 months is't so bad and she can be taking english classes while you wait.


If you want to make multiquotes just copy and paste the quote tags before and after the words you're trying to quote.  Google is your friend.

[fathertime]

If I had a colombian fiance/real love interest, and didn't have kids/job, and lived in a border city or say within 30 minutes of the border, I could see moving right over the border if I could find a real nice safe neighborhood for the both of us. Then we could enjoy a lot of time together before anything gets formalized.   There was a lot of if's in there. 


  I can't imagine having a beautiful young colombian woman move to mexico alone though.  Too much potential danger and idol time.  I don't think it would be worth it.  Interesting idea though.


Fathertime! 

[mambocowboy]

How do you know how much experience I have with the "visa process"?  Do you know my life history?  Are you psychic?

I'm not psychic, but do know anybody who would  stumble up to an ATM drunk in any country, let alone Colombia, and brag about it is not someone whose advice I'd listen to.

[htown]

I'm not psychic, but do know anybody who would  stumble up to an ATM drunk in any country, let alone Colombia, and brag about it is not someone whose advice I'd listen to.

I never "bragged" about that.  I was just describing some of the stupid stuff I did and that it was a miracle I didn't get robbed doing it.  I have some way crazier stories than that, let me know if you want to hear them mc. 




@Fathertime Yea that would pretty much only work out if you lived near the border.  I'm just trying to "think outside the box" for Stevieboy since he seems pretty worried about getting his lady over here asap.

[mambocowboy]

Well htown I don't need to be psychic to know you have never succeeded with a fiancee or spousal visa. I would find hearing about that more interesting than your stories about acting like a fool.

[Ray]

Another idea would be to just bring her over illegally.  Then once she's with you in austin you can marry her and fix her papers.  It would be pretty easy actually, cost about the same, and be way faster.

 
This is really a dumb idea.
 
 
This kind of visa fraud could cost her being banned for life or at least for 10 years.
 
 
This kind of selfish thinking might sound good for the guy, but who would leave a loved one alone in a strange and dangerous country, or risk her getting robbed, raped, or worse...which happens every day to young ladies while being smuggled across tha border.
 
 
Also, there would be nothing "easy" about getting her papers fixed if she entered illegally, and you then married her here. You would need an immigration lawyer (expensive) and the chances of success would still be in doubt.
 
 
Ray
 
 

[htown]

Well htown I don't need to be psychic to know you have never succeeded with a fiancee or spousal visa.

Again I ask, how do you know?

I would find hearing about that more interesting than your stories about acting like a fool.

Sometimes acting like a fool makes for the funnest times... 

[htown]

 
This is really a dumb idea.
 
 
This kind of visa fraud could cost her being banned for life or at least for 10 years.
 
 
This kind of selfish thinking might sound good for the guy, but who would leave a loved one alone in a strange and dangerous country, or risk her getting robbed, raped, or worse...which happens every day to young ladies while being smuggled across tha border.
 
 
Also, there would be nothing "easy" about getting her papers fixed if she entered illegally, and you then married her here. You would need an immigration lawyer (expensive) and the chances of success would still be in doubt.
 
 
Ray

Ray I know alot of people who came here illegally, with no problem.  Yea it is a risk, so like anything else each person must determine if the risk is worth it.  I know of a couple reputable coyotes who telll you up front they don't do any of that raping, or robbing bs and they take good care of their people, but they're not cheap.




And yes it would be damn easy to fix her papers by marriage once she's in the country illegally.  I know that for a fact.  I know 2 people who did it last year alone.  I know it worked because they've already traveled to mexico and came back with no problem, something they couldn't do before they got their papers fixed.  The lawyer they use, who I've met, charges 3k for everything.

[mambocowboy]

Again I ask, how do you know?








Sometimes acting like a fool makes for the funnest times... 

well gee Einstein, notice I said "successful Visa". You really might want to quit drinking

[Alabamaboy!]

Damn man, when I was going through all this visa stuff a couple years ago I thought of having my wife wait out the visa in Mexico since I live 10 from the border, but at the time Colombians needed a visa to enter Mexico. Man, that would have made my life so much easier. It would cost about $2000 to cross her if I wanted to take the risk. Or just rent an apartment for $250/month and wait for the visa to go through.

[Ray]

I know of a couple reputable coyotes who telll you up front they don't do any of that raping, or robbing bs and they take good care of their people, but they're not cheap.

 
Oh yeah, those coyotes really take good care of their people... ROFLMAO!
 
I've seen first hand how those caring coyotes take care of the people being smuggled.
 
I've seen their dead bodies splattered all over the roads here in San Diego when the coyotes bailed out of a load vehicle or tried to outrun the Border Patrol. Just a few blocks from my house a few years back, I saw 14 dead bodies strewn across the freeway exit ramp where some dumbass smuggler rolled a van overloaded with illegals during a high speed chase. There were probably another dozen in bad shape who were medivaced.
 
A favorite trick of the dumbass coyotes to get by the check point on Highway 8 was to go the wrong way on the freeway late at night with their lights out. A bunch more died out there in the dark and not just illegals, but innocent drivers too.
 
I came about 3 inches from killing a guy on the freeway one morning when another dumb ass coyote cut across 4 lanes of traffic and jumped out of a stolen van full of illegals while it was still rolling, leaving the passengers to run out into traffic to try to escape.
 
Those stupid coyotes will do anything to escape capture and they don't give a flying f@#k what happens to those people who paid thousands of dollars to be smuggled. The coyotes will dump their sorry asses at the first sign of the Border Patrol, so you make me laugh when you proclaim that they take good care of them.
 
Ray
 
 

[V_Man]

My limited experience is that many Colombian woman have tried a little weed at some stage. Much like most people in other countries. However you really need to get to know them well before they will admit to it.


Of course this is not the same as a daily user.



It obviously carries much more risk and has a lot more potential connotations in Colombia.

[htown]

 
Oh yeah, those coyotes really take good care of their people... ROFLMAO!
 
I've seen first hand how those caring coyotes take care of the people being smuggled.
 
I've seen their dead bodies splattered all over the roads here in San Diego when the coyotes bailed out of a load vehicle or tried to outrun the Border Patrol. Just a few blocks from my house a few years back, I saw 14 dead bodies strewn across the freeway exit ramp where some dumbass smuggler rolled a van overloaded with illegals during a high speed chase. There were probably another dozen in bad shape who were medivaced.
 
A favorite trick of the dumbass coyotes to get by the check point on Highway 8 was to go the wrong way on the freeway late at night with their lights out. A bunch more died out there in the dark and not just illegals, but innocent drivers too.
 
I came about 3 inches from killing a guy on the freeway one morning when another dumb ass coyote cut across 4 lanes of traffic and jumped out of a stolen van full of illegals while it was still rolling, leaving the passengers to run out into traffic to try to escape.
 
Those stupid coyotes will do anything to escape capture and they don't give a flying f@#k what happens to those people who paid thousands of dollars to be smuggled. The coyotes will dump their sorry asses at the first sign of the Border Patrol, so you make me laugh when you proclaim that they take good care of them.
 
Ray

Let me let you in on a little secret ray.  Riding in the trailer of an 18 wheeler isn't the only way coyotes operate.  Money talks.  If all you can afford is a ride hidden in the back of a truck than that's how you ride.  If you have money to cross the border vip style than you cross vip style.  It all depends on your budget.

[htown]

Imagine this scenario.  Stevieboy puts his novia up in an upscale apartment in a gated community in a bordertown.  She enrolls in english classes mon-fri from 9am-2pm.  She spends afternoons doing some volunteer work down at the local catholic church.  Maybe she meets a couple of friends at her school and the church that she can have dinner with a few times a week.  In the evenings she talks on the phone and skypes with her family and stevieboy.  Every thursday stevieboy drives down to spend the whole weekend with her.  He says he's self employed so he could possibly spend more time than only weekends.


It's not such a horrible idea.  Mexico isn't that much different from colombia and it would give her a chance to get used to not being close to her family.

[fathertime]

Let me let you in on a little secret ray.  Riding in the trailer of an 18 wheeler isn't the only way coyotes operate.  Money talks.  If all you can afford is a ride hidden in the back of a truck than that's how you ride.  If you have money to cross the border vip style than you cross vip style.  It all depends on your budget.

Howdy Htown,  I've read the last several posts of yours on this subject.   From what I've gathered there is a little network of lawyers/coyotes, and maybe a person or two that needs to be bribed to make this work.  I'm curious as to how the individuals travel across the border if they are not in the back of a truck.   Do you know the method the high roller illegals are using?     I suspect if the feds REALLY wanted to stop this activity they could, but I am guessing they are also looking the other way to an extent.


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

Imagine this scenario.  Stevieboy puts his novia up in an upscale apartment in a gated community in a bordertown.  She enrolls in english classes mon-fri from 9am-2pm.  She spends afternoons doing some volunteer work down at the local catholic church.  Maybe she meets a couple of friends at her school and the church that she can have dinner with a few times a week.  In the evenings she talks on the phone and skypes with her family and stevieboy.  Every thursday stevieboy drives down to spend the whole weekend with her.  He says he's self employed so he could possibly spend more time than only weekends.


It's not such a horrible idea.  Mexico isn't that much different from colombia and it would give her a chance to get used to not being close to her family.

Well Htown, this scenario would probably work for some ladies, although I suspect a lot of ladies would prefer to be living among their family in Colombia until the visa is approved, but I can see how it cold be a viable option and one I never thought of.   I just read that as a US citizen, we can stay in Mexico for up to 6 months at a time, I am guessing the reality is we could probably stay there longer.


Fathertime! 

[htown]

Howdy Htown,  I've read the last several posts of yours on this subject.   From what I've gathered there is a little network of lawyers/coyotes, and maybe a person or two that needs to be bribed to make this work.  I'm curious as to how the individuals travel across the border if they are not in the back of a truck.   Do you know the method the high roller illegals are using?     I suspect if the feds REALLY wanted to stop this activity they could, but I am guessing they are also looking the other way to an extent.


Fathertime!

It involves fake documents or using someone else's documents.  And yes, just like drug smuggling, border patrol agents are part of the "network".  If the feds REALLY wanted to stop it I suppose they could.  The first step would be to greatly increase border patrol's budget and hire more agents.  The sheer amount of traffic crossing the border makes it almost impossible to police it properly.

[htown]

Well Htown, this scenario would probably work for some ladies, although I suspect a lot of ladies would prefer to be living among their family in Colombia until the visa is approved, but I can see how it cold be a viable option and one I never thought of.   I just read that as a US citizen, we can stay in Mexico for up to 6 months at a time, I am guessing the reality is we could probably stay there longer.


Fathertime!

Well it depends on how bad the couple want to see each other.  Is it V_man who is still waiting for his wife's visa?  Ask him if he'd like to be able to drive 4 hours to spend the weekend with his fiance.  To some it would be worth the sacrifice of being away from family.  One's budget would also be a factor.

[mambocowboy]

 
Oh yeah, those coyotes really take good care of their people... ROFLMAO!
 
I've seen first hand how those caring coyotes take care of the people being smuggled.
 
I've seen their dead bodies splattered all over the roads here in San Diego when the coyotes bailed out of a load vehicle or tried to outrun the Border Patrol. Just a few blocks from my house a few years back, I saw 14 dead bodies strewn across the freeway exit ramp where some dumbass smuggler rolled a van overloaded with illegals during a high speed chase. There were probably another dozen in bad shape who were medivaced.
 
A favorite trick of the dumbass coyotes to get by the check point on Highway 8 was to go the wrong way on the freeway late at night with their lights out. A bunch more died out there in the dark and not just illegals, but innocent drivers too.
 
I came about 3 inches from killing a guy on the freeway one morning when another dumb ass coyote cut across 4 lanes of traffic and jumped out of a stolen van full of illegals while it was still rolling, leaving the passengers to run out into traffic to try to escape.
 
Those stupid coyotes will do anything to escape capture and they don't give a flying f@#k what happens to those people who paid thousands of dollars to be smuggled. The coyotes will dump their sorry asses at the first sign of the Border Patrol, so you make me laugh when you proclaim that they take good care of them.
 
Ray

Well, Ray this is the type of advice you can expect from Htown. His logic is because plenty of people get away with fraud, that makes it ok. Then again, we can't really know whether he's used a Visa to bring a woman over. Maybe Htown's illegal himself? Ooh , wow, he's so mysterious, one would have to be psychic to understand him!

[Stevieboy]

Htown is correct on several points of the business of transportation of illegals from Mexico, but, that is for persons that are more desperate, of which you are, nor should be. The most important factor other than possible death that Ray hit on correctly, is; the punishment for getting caught. It's true she may not be able to come back for 10 years and even ever qualify for a green card again. I mentioned this before, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. I grew up on the border and know family that are illegal, been caught, banned, came back again because they had children here, and are poor because they can't work anywhere they might get discovered by ICE, so they can only find work in sweat shops or orchards picking peaches or cotton. I wouldn't risk that on a woman I truly cared for. Not to mention my family would practically disown me for doing that to a naïve woman who trusted and loved me. There's another factor to consider; respect. There's classes in every clan of family; the higher class and the lower class. The higher class came here legally, doesn't collect welfare, and pays property taxes, the lower class came illegally and 9 out 10 times collects welfare and won't learn to speak english. People generally don't appreciate illegal aliens for all the factors they impose to the socio economy. And it's not just white people, I, nor my mexican/american grandparents that waited and went thru the process legally don't appreciate it either. I for one won't be a hypocrite.   
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[benjio]

Mexico isn't that much different from colombia....

 

[htown]

My girlfriend is here illegally from mexico.  She crossed at el paso.  She told me she got caught her first time.  The border patrol took her back across the border and she came right back the very next day, at the same exact place she got caught.  She said she gave them a fake name and they didn't take her finger prints.  That was when she was 18 years old.


A couple years later she went back to mexico to hang out for the summer and when she came back her family paid good money to have her brought in vip style.  She was given somebody else's documents and she rode with a car full of girls her age in a nice late model car.  She was waved through without even getting checked.


I've asked her why the hell she doesn't just get a visa so she doesn't have to worry about being illegal.  She says she doesn't want to wait for the visa process, that it takes too long.  But truthfully, other than not being to travel to mexico, her not having papers doesn't affect her life in any way.  She still gets any job she applies for.  She's still going to school and about to get her state cosmetology license.  Plus obama's amnesty is coming right around the corner.




Of course stevieboy, I wouldn't recommend you go the illegal route with your fiance.  I just threw that out there as an option since you seem to be stressing about the wait time for the visa.