Why not just get married in their country?

[A_Thomas]

Who's talking about the Ukraine? I'm talking about Colombia. If you haven't married there, either , why did you give advice?

 Nobody is talking Ukraine, its just an example that is not taking much longer than about 6 months. I don't know why it would take longer for Latin American women.

 Why do you have Hedgehog as your avatar if you wanna try to make my post pointless, using him as a avatar is just about as pointless if not downright silly and I have met the man, he's cool and funny.

[A_Thomas]

well Whitey, since i didn't invite hardly anybody my wedding was real inexpensive here! jajaja


But yeah, had we done a wedding in colombia it probably would have been inexpensive...but man, when we put on that 1st b-day for our son in colombia, we wound up paying many 1000's to do it...but we really spared no expense and had large turnout, all the bells and whistles too. 




Fathertime!

  See you spared no expense, guess who's fault that is?


  Friend of mine married his wife in the US for about $1,500 including rings (he bought in Kiev).


  I plan on keeping to stupid simple, Downtown LA, City Hall, then over to the Federal Building...






 

[Calipro]

  See you spared no expense, guess who's fault that is?


  Friend of mine married his wife in the US for about $1,500 including rings (he bought in Kiev).


  I plan on keeping to stupid simple, Downtown LA, City Hall, then over to the Federal Building...

Hmmmm


Why are you interested in marriage?


Some are looking for a lifetime of blissful happiness and actually go at it....like it is the last wedding they'll ever have.


Others hold back thinking that if it lasts three or four good years it will have been a good time and save money for the next bride to be. jajaja


I hear... if you find the right one.... they'll pay you to marry them and then pay you again to divorce them after they have permanent residency.

[V_Man]

Hmmmm


Why are you interested in marriage?


Some are looking for a lifetime of blissful happiness and actually go at it....like it is the last wedding they'll ever have.
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Exactly!!!!
As I have said many times, it problably is unwise to follow my example. However my attitude in this whole thing has been all or nothing. The whole fairy tale or nothing at all.

 Maybe I'll have the fairy tale and eventually end up with nothing. Who can say? However I wont die wondering. 

[htown]

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No, you don't, and I've tried countless times trying to explain to you.

Actually your only explanation has been that you want a woman who has the latin culture.  The women I've been telling you to go for are exactly that, women who were born and raised in latin america.  The women I'm suggesting to you are immigrants.  If you bring a colombiana here from colombia, she's going to be what?  An immigrant!  Hello!

So you think I want it easy and then send me a link to a colombian festival in the USA and insist on me meeting a woman in the USA just because I'm hispanic.

I didn't say anything about you being hispanic.  You seem to want to only marry a colombiana, well that festival is going to be full of them.  I guarantee you most of the women at that festival are women who came to the states late in life.  Most of them don't even speak english.  It doesn't get any more "non-americanized" than that since supposedly that's what you're looking for.

And if you supposedly love colombian "culture" so much why wouldn't you want to go that festival?

I think one of us is on the wrong website. If I'm correct this site is for men talking about looking for love outside the USA. There's another site for guys just looking for a good time.

Exactly, looking for LOVE!  The way you're going about it I don't think you're looking for true love.  It looks to me like you're simply looking for the women who only want a ticket to gringoland.  I think you're setting yourself up for failure, bigtime.  At least if you get a woman who already lives here, it cuts down on the possibility that she's only using you.

[size=78%]  Also, who said anything about a woman wanting to marry me from talking on skype?[/size]

Actually you did.  What did you mean when you said this?

" I don't want to sound like another guy who has follishly fallen head over heals. I've been talking to two women on skype on a daily basis who know they're competing for me. MC advised I should be straight forward with the ladies by disclosing that I'm courting and will be dating other women when I visit. That was spot on, infact they said they don't blame me and it makes sense. But what happened after that, is they upped their A game and fast forwarded the pre-dating rituals to light years ahead. "

That's probably why so many members don't ever post questions, they know somone will always assume something else and take the OP out of context. Only a few ever give real answers to an OP.   

Actually you got alot of good answers to your original question.  I noticed you said that it "it sounds alot of bs for what it's worth", and that's the only reason I chimed in with my 2 cents.  I only tell you what I believe is best for you.  You have the option to totally ignore everything I say and not reply to me.

[fathertime]

  See you spared no expense, guess who's fault that is?


  Friend of mine married his wife in the US for about $1,500 including rings (he bought in Kiev).


  I plan on keeping to stupid simple, Downtown LA, City Hall, then over to the Federal Building...

My statement must have come off wrong.  I should have made it sound more positive, more positive because that birthday party was a fun party with nearly 100 in attendence and worth the few 1000 we spent.   If anybody else is in that position, and money isn't too tight, I say concern yourself not about the money it takes to throw the party, and just celebrate.  We only get to do these things 1 time.








Fathertime! 

[Ray]

  Friend of mine married his wife in the US for about $1,500 including rings (he bought in Kiev).


  I plan on keeping to stupid simple, Downtown LA, City Hall, then over to the Federal Building...

 
Question: why would you go to the Federal Building after getting married??
 
 
Ray
 
 

[Stevieboy]

Actually your only explanation has been that you want a woman who has the latin culture.  The women I've been telling you to go for are exactly that, women who were born and raised in latin america.  The women I'm suggesting to you are immigrants.  If you bring a colombiana here from colombia, she's going to be what?  An immigrant!  Hello!


I didn't say anything about you being hispanic.  You seem to want to only marry a colombiana, well that festival is going to be full of them.  I guarantee you most of the women at that festival are women who came to the states late in life.  Most of them don't even speak english.  It doesn't get any more "non-americanized" than that since supposedly that's what you're looking for.

And if you supposedly love colombian "culture" so much why wouldn't you want to go that festival?

Exactly, looking for LOVE!  The way you're going about it I don't think you're looking for true love.  It looks to me like you're simply looking for the women who only want a ticket to gringoland.  I think you're setting yourself up for failure, bigtime.  At least if you get a woman who already lives here, it cuts down on the possibility that she's only using you.


Actually you did.  What did you mean when you said this?

" I don't want to sound like another guy who has follishly fallen head over heals. I've been talking to two women on skype on a daily basis who know they're competing for me. MC advised I should be straight forward with the ladies by disclosing that I'm courting and will be dating other women when I visit. That was spot on, infact they said they don't blame me and it makes sense. But what happened after that, is they upped their A game and fast forwarded the pre-dating rituals to light years ahead. "






Actually you got alot of good answers to your original question.  I noticed you said that it "it sounds alot of bs for what it's worth", and that's the only reason I chimed in with my 2 cents.  I only tell you what I believe is best for you.  You have the option to totally ignore everything I say and not reply to me.

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Man, I don't know how you guys do that where you highlight and quote and answer to each. So I'll try to rebut.
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1.  Please quote as you did others where I said I wanted a woman who had latin culture.  What does that mean? Of course that's what I want. 
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2.  As for the Colombian culture and why I don't just go to the festival in Houston, why not everyone here do that instead too? Have you dated these women? We have latin festivals here too. You say their immigrants too. We're all immigrants in one way or another, htown.
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3. You went back to what I posted weeks ago and quoted me saying that the women have UPPED THEIR GAME. Well of course, that's what they do. I don't have to be a latin, or world traveler to know the basic behavior of women. But, even with that, when did I say we're getting married? You assumed that from that quote weeks ago, on another thread,  on another topic.  And why not ask the question of marriage? This is a poignant question and, well, probably the most important part of the quest. These are questions that are supposed to be asked. Here's another question: what are you doing on this site? You're obviously not looking to get hitched, and you think the latin women here are just as good if not better than there. What is your angle?     
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4. You also think I'm setting myself up for "failure big time", and "looking for girls who want a ticket to gringoland". I thought you knew that. You didn't know that most of the guys here know a woman from a third world country would gladly come to live in a safer, cleaner, more economical place to have a man and a family? Most of my family did just that.
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HT: You've been working diligently to talk me into meeting latin women here (as though I must live under a rock and haven't done so most of my life) instead of Colombia, I have to ask: IS IT REALLY JUST HYPE? You've been there and done that, right? Did the women behave like gold diggers with you? Do you speak Spanish and figured them out during conversation? Do you feel opposite of what veterans here think about Colombian women,  and others will not admit on this site? I believe you believe a Hispanic or latin American man has no business traveling so far when it's all here. Do you think the women here are just as faithful, christian, and family oriented as the women in COL? AND, do you still think there's a good chance of finding a good looking woman here age 25-35 without children? The only Hispanic women I know near that young that doesn't have children, don't want children yet, these women generally aren't gonna date a guy my age either.         
 
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I for one will admit that one of the biggest reasons I would like a wife from another country, is because she knows nobody else but me. She wont have corrupt girlfriends down the street to get in her head. Of course, the best girls are the ones who don't care about having other friends IMO.   
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Let me give you a bit of advice for a change, younger bro. The days of being the ladies man doesn't last forever. I've had my time. Life is short and you get older and uglier. If you wait too long, you'll wind up with an American chick you're age, and probably someone else's kids. If there's a woman out there who has the qualities that only your mother would approve of, you've got to grab onto her before someone else does. You mentioned a beautiful girl from mexico you were dating and she would cook for you, but you weren't interested in a serious relationship, leads me to believe you're still playing. There comes a time when it's not cool to be the old single guy in the nightclub. If you stay the player too long, you'll never be used to being with only one woman, hence always unfaithful, and women will never trust you and you'll live alone at 75 years old wackin it to old Jenna Jameson videos.     I figure I've still got some looks and a few hairs on my head left, and I've wasted enough time in the States, therefore, I'm going where women are serious about what I'm serious about. 

[Stevieboy]

 Nobody is talking Ukraine, its just an example that is not taking much longer than about 6 months. I don't know why it would take longer for Latin American women.

 Why do you have Hedgehog as your avatar if you wanna try to make my post pointless, using him as a avatar is just about as pointless if not downright silly and I have met the man, he's cool and funny.

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I love the Hedge Hog, but you're right, probably not the best avatar if to be taken seriousely. Although I don't want to be taken serious at all times.   

[benjio]

This would be a great event for a guy like you to go to.  Gonna be some SERIOUS hotties at this festival.  It will be just like being in colombia, only a 2 hour drive away instead of a 10 hour flight.


http://www.facebook.com/events/157220014436305/?fref=ts

Mmmmmm...did they replace the Colombian and Venezuelan Festival they have downtown with this one or is this another one? The CV Festival is usually in July. This one is in May if I read correctly. I've been out of the loop because I'm traveling so much. Wouldn't surprise me if there are now two big festivals with the huge Colombian Community in Houston though. Silvestre Dangond played Bar Rio (the second biggest club in Houston at the time) and sold the place out back in 2010. I definitely understand where Stevieboy is coming from, but I gotta agree with HTown in terms of the Colombian Talent in Houston. OMG dude...Colombia Fest Downtown? OOOOOOOOOO WEE!!! Over 80,000 people of Colombian decent or nationality living in the greater Houston area and I guarantee you they ALL show up for that party. There is also a Miss Colombia Houston Pageant my company has sponsored in the past. Not sure if that's still going on but, LAWD HAM MERCY!!! The women in the audience at the pageant are enough to keep your eyes off the stage even during the swimsuit contest.    It can definitely make a man wonder why he got on a plane in the first place! 

[Stevieboy]

 It can definitely make a man wonder why he got on a plane in the first place! 

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Well damn, no wonder Htown cant stop talking about it. Must be about location. 80k are a lot of people.

[htown]

@Stevieboy I really had nothing to add to the topic since I thought others had done a good job of answering your original question.


I only chimed in because of this comment: "Man, it all just sounds almost too much BS for what it's worth. You guys didnt burst my bubble, you told me what's reality and important."


@Benjio...No this isn't the colombian festival, this is just a vallenato festival, which could actually be called the colombian festival since that's basically what it is lol.  The real colombian festival will still take place during the summer probably at that place off of hwy 6.  Then I think there's another colombian festival that goes by another name.  Then I've also seen flyers for a "cali festival" which is basically just another colombian festival.  Another can't miss is the puerto rican/dominican/cuban festival they have downtown.  There are at least 10 other latino themed "festivals" I could mention lol!  And yes it's worth attending these events for the eye candy factor alone.

[Gato4Astrid]

My good friend, Ivan whom I am going to see his 40th birthday tomorrow (50 miles away).  He is British but his wife is Italian, who had already lived in UK for a while.  They got married last year in Milan, Italy.  It is very traditional and also more fun, and quite cheaper


To get to the point, if you wish to get married in Colombia, go for it.  It is all about you and your wife-to-be.  Nothing to do with your parents.  If your parents do not want to go there for some reasons other than financial, so be it.   It is your and your wife-to-be happiness!


If I had married to Astrid or anyone else, my mother wouldn't come because she doesn't believe in them.  She would have gone to Mexico for my youngest sister's wedding "Beach wedding" but she had split up with boyfriend about few months ago.

[SkyNorth]

Sorry for being off topic, but I'm interested in "how gringos are received at these all Colombian Festivals?" with their OK to bad Spanish and all. 
 

It just seems fun, not looking for anything huge.  Of course, I would never discount an opportunity to meet a great gal and or have a good time. 
 
Also, for $250 to $350 more I could fly to Colombia, trying to figure out economics ? between the 2.  Any opinions?

[benjio]

Sorry for being off topic, but I'm interested in "how gringos are received at these all Colombian Festivals?" with their OK to bad Spanish and all. 
 

It just seems fun, not looking for anything huge.  Of course, I would never discount an opportunity to meet a great gal and or have a good time. 
 
Also, for $250 to $350 more I could fly to Colombia, trying to figure out economics ? between the 2.  Any opinions?

Sky,
 
After NYC Houston is the most diverse city in the United States. There are entire communities of Mexican, Vietnamese, Arabic, Indian and Brazilian Cultures. On the southwest side of town where thousands of Vietnamese people live, even the street signs are in their language. There is also a huge Greek Community in Houston I didn't know about until recently. On the newer Metro buses, all instructional signs are in English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Chinese and Arabic. Outside of your occasional dumb ass redneck (who generally hates anyone that's not white and Southern Baptist), people in Houston are pretty tolerant of people from other cultures. There are two exceptions. Jews do not get along with Arabic and Persian people, and Indians never get along wtih Pakistanis. I'm sure there are exceptions but I've seen a lot of friction between these cultures in Houston even though they are thousands of miles from their home countries.
 
I've always had a blast at any International Festival in Houston. I've never felt more welcomed that at the Colombian and Venezuelan Festivals. Colombianos in Houston are always pleasantly surprised to meet an American that knows so much about their country and culture. It REALLY impresses the ladies when you can rattle off street and barrio names in their home towns, or have a thorough knowledge of Colombian Slang. I'm being 100% honest when I say all the things I know about Colombia have gotten me layed in the states.    I've taken friends to the festival and they decided to visit Colombia just because they had such a great time. There has been a link to the website in my profile since I joined PL.
 
Don't get me wrong though...nothing like actually being in Colombia. You can buy fruit from the grocery store, or you can go to the farm and pick it directly off the trees. 

[htown]

Benjio pretty much summed it up.  If you live close by it would be worth checking out, but I wouldn't fly in just to go to the festival.  Much better to go to colombia.  The big difference of course would be if you happen to meet a nice lady you don't have to worry about all the visa and long-distance runaround.

[Stevieboy]

 

You can buy fruit from the grocery store, or you can go to the farm and pick it directly off the trees.

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BINGO!!

[beulah]

If I had married to Astrid or anyone else, my mother wouldn't come because she doesn't believe in them.  She would have gone to Mexico for my youngest sister's wedding "Beach wedding" but she had split up with boyfriend about few months ago.

That is too bad Gato.  Maybe your mother will surprise you and support your next romantic interest. 

[fathertime]

  The days of being the ladies man doesn't last forever. I've had my time. Life is short and you get older and uglier. If you wait too long, you'll wind up with an American chick you're age, and probably someone else's kids. If there's a woman out there who has the qualities that only your mother would approve of, you've got to grab onto her before someone else does. You mentioned a beautiful girl from mexico you were dating and she would cook for you, but you weren't interested in a serious relationship, leads me to believe you're still playing. There comes a time when it's not cool to be the old single guy in the nightclub. If you stay the player too long, you'll never be used to being with only one woman, hence always unfaithful, and women will never trust you and you'll live alone at 75 years old wackin it to old Jenna Jameson videos.     I figure I've still got some looks and a few hairs on my head left, and I've wasted enough time in the States, therefore, I'm going where women are serious about what I'm serious about.

yoyo stevie...hey i agree with most of what you have said above BUT are you sure you are serious?  What are you looking for in one of these latina babes?  Based on your writings, I can't imagine you being too serious about things....I think IF you are smoking as much weed as it seems you are, you are not going to find many babes that are looking for a family lifestyle with somebody who partakes too much. 


You may have to cut down bigtime.  From my experience with the colombian ladies, marijuana use is not thought of very highly...but hey I know there are exceptions...and you might be drawing from a different category of lady then I did.


Either way, good luck with it all.   


Fathertime! 

[bcc_1_2]

Yea i've always heard the timing is about the same. Bottom line is do what you like and accept the results. I felt more comfortable with the K1... knowing she was in the country legally, that we could get married, and she could stay legally. No wife in a foreign country who you can't bring up. Best to stay engaged until you are both in your home country. That is just my opinion as a man who vacationed overseas and not someone who has lived someplace for 6 months or a year.
Some of these posts on this site just crack me up these days. The thought that my wife and mother of my kid has any intentions of screwing me over or taking advantage of me in anyway is just nuts.
There are tons of nice ladies in Latin America that are educated, speak some english, want a nice husband/boyfriend, and just want to start a family.

[benjio]

yoyo stevie...hey i agree with most of what you have said above BUT are you sure you are serious?  What are you looking for in one of these latina babes?  Based on your writings, I can't imagine you being too serious about things....I think IF you are smoking as much weed as it seems you are, you are not going to find many babes that are looking for a family lifestyle with somebody who partakes too much. 


You may have to cut down bigtime.  From my experience with the colombian ladies, marijuana use is not thought of very highly...but hey I know there are exceptions...and you might be drawing from a different category of lady then I did.


Either way, good luck with it all.   


Fathertime!

Oh man...100% true FT. Excellent point. I never even thought to mention that to you Stevie. In Colombia the use of any illegal substance is looked down upon by the general population. I don't consider marijuana a "hard" drug so to speak, but because of the cartel and their tradition of murder and mayhem in the country drug use and the drug business in general is viewed with much more distain than in the states. There's nothing casual about smoking a joint once in a while or bumping a little coke in Colombia. You should have a long and serious conversation with any girl you get serious about to figure out what she thinks about it. I think Jamie told me the story of a woman from his agency that didn't know her fiance smoked weed until she got to the states and she ended up returning to Barranquilla when he wouldn't stop.

[stnmasn]

Huh,,,,I have found that illegal drug use can be frowned upon by colombianas but I have also met many nice super hot colombian girls who aren't bothered by it at all.   It has been my experience that it all depends on the girl.......it works the same here in the USA i have found also.....some dont like it... others dont mind it... others like it...  decent maryjane is easily and safely obtainable if you have a good network of people in colombia. Just be cool bout where you smoke it.


Should I assume that I am dealing with a lower category of women when I encounter one that doesn't have a problem with marijuana?


Stevie don't worry about the bull[snip] of having to cut down big time.  That isn't true at all. 
You can find smoking hot women there that wont mind at all that you puff,,,,and they arent just the women from the lower stratas of colombia!!! I am happy to say!!! 


Just keep going down there.

[benjio]

Huh,,,,I have found that illegal drug use can be frowned upon by colombianas but I have also met many nice super hot colombian girls who aren't bothered by it at all.   It has been my experience that it all depends on the girl.......it works the same here in the USA i have found also.....some dont like it... others dont mind it... others like it...  decent maryjane is easily and safely obtainable if you have a good network of people in colombia. Just be cool bout where you smoke it.


Should I assume that I am dealing with a lower category of women when I encounter one that doesn't have a problem with marijuana?


Stevie don't worry about the bull[snip] of having to cut down big time.  That isn't true at all. 
You can find smoking hot women there that wont mind at all that you puff,,,,and they arent just the women from the lower stratas of colombia!!! I am happy to say!!! 


Just keep going down there.

Mmmmm...not my experience. Not saying anything you wrote isn't true. I just have yet to run across any girl that was cool with it outside of narco girlfriends and prepagos. Learn something new everyday though. 

[fathertime]

Huh,,,,I have found that illegal drug use can be frowned upon by colombianas but I have also met many nice super hot colombian girls who aren't bothered by it at all.   It has been my experience that it all depends on the girl.......it works the same here in the USA i have found also.....some dont like it... others dont mind it... others like it...  decent maryjane is easily and safely obtainable if you have a good network of people in colombia. Just be cool bout where you smoke it.


Should I assume that I am dealing with a lower category of women when I encounter one that doesn't have a problem with marijuana?


Stevie don't worry about the bull[snip] of having to cut down big time.  That isn't true at all. 
You can find smoking hot women there that wont mind at all that you puff,,,,and they arent just the women from the lower stratas of colombia!!! I am happy to say!!! 


Just keep going down there.

Well stnmasn,  in my opinion use of drugs by a slightly older ‘foreign bride seeker’ is something most women took as a pretty big negative.  So I don’t think it is BS to bring it up in a negative light and consider the possibility of cutting back big time. Of course there are exceptions, and I didn’t often get into in depth conversations about drug use, since I was not  interested in drugs myself, but I did bring the topic up just to get a read on the ladies attitudes.  Maybe the ladies fed me what they thought I wanted to hear.

Stevie has stated he was  interested in finding a ‘family orientated’ and ‘serious’woman, I think it will be a very rare treasure to find this type of woman that is also interested in a man that is using drugs often, but I’m sure there are some that exist.  Maybe the women he has been chatting with are a couple of those exceptions.

Fathertime!

[mambocowboy]

Oh man...100% true FT. Excellent point. I never even thought to mention that to you Stevie. In Colombia the use of any illegal substance is looked down upon by the general population. I don't consider marijuana a "hard" drug so to speak, but because of the cartel and their tradition of murder and mayhem in the country drug use and the drug business in general is viewed with much more distain than in the states. There's nothing casual about smoking a joint once in a while or bumping a little coke in Colombia. You should have a long and serious conversation with any girl you get serious about to figure out what she thinks about it. I think Jamie told me the story of a woman from his agency that didn't know her fiance smoked weed until she got to the states and she ended up returning to Barranquilla when he wouldn't stop.

there are always exceptions, but in asking my wife about this subject she has a hard time imagining marriage minded Colombianas accepting marijuana use. Be that as it may, I hope SB finds that exception, and is upfront about it because it's the right thing to do...