Our America with Lisa Ling

[lja1960]

I was the guy on the Our America with Lisa Ling “Online Brides” episode. I have written a novel “Encounter Your Destiny” to help others find their “special one”. The novel puts you in my footsteps as I take you behind the scenes – From my life before going on the romance tour, to when I met my lovely wife Cristina, our whirlwind romance, and our wedding. I take you through the actual international romance tour, from the moment you arrive in Colombia until the day I depart, and the filming of the romance tour by Our America with Lisa Ling. In addition I added 7 bonus chapters that get into the nuts and bolts of international romance tours. You’ll learn how the process works in detail, what to expect and what you should do – and not do – when you take one of these remarkable tours. What the tour agency does, what you should expect from a reputable tour agency. You’ll learn about the “Socials” – the key to meeting and discovering how to interact with the ladies. What you can expect and what you can do to ensure a positive experience for yourself. You’ll also gain valuable advice on what you should do regarding dating, what to do while you’re dating women in another country, and what you need to do once you return home.

This novel was just released a couple of weeks ago and is already selling well with some nice reviews. If you are interested in international dating, especially in Colombia, this bias opinion believes this is an excellent novel packed with good information. I believe you will enjoy reading this novel. The novel intertwines my true love story, the filming of the show, and inner workings of the romance tour all into an inspiring international romance story.

[Micky]

Putz,  sure,  I'll buy ten copies!  If you wanted to "help"  anyone,  you would post your stories,  experiences here.  I am guessing your "15 minutes of fame"  did not quite get it done.  Come to Medellin and I will drop you off in 12 of October,  we will see how your "especially Colombia"  knowledge really works.

Micky

[Buckmarston]

I don't know why topic was greeted so harshly.  It only looks like the man is trying to provide a written resource for those who like to read books.  Is there something phony about him or his materials?  Thank you for explaning .

[Bob_S]

Micky- Uncalled for.

lja- If you're here to push a book, and I got no problem with that, you might want to contact the admin, Dan, and see about registering as a commercial member.  People with services and products to sell must do so, so readers know where they are coming from.  We often mention certain books as recommended reading for newbies.

-Mod Bob

[robert angel]

Sounds like a pretty blatant commercial pitch to me. If that kinda stuff flies here, hear ye, hear ye!---You ought to know that only one percent of all US paper money is two dollar bills and for a limited time, I'll sell you genuine two dollar bills for only $4.95 each, plus $2.00 for shipping and handling.
Beware of crocksters selling genuine imitations--this is the real thing, with a genuine, dead president on each bill, acompanied with a one of a kind serial number.
Due to scarcity, no customer can purchase more than five of this highly collectible rarity!! Act now!!!

[benjio]

I'd like to know how long you've been married and how much time you've actually spent in Colombia. I personally believe any newbie on this forum considering a trip to Colombia to search for a significant other can learn MUCH more from the collective experiences of men here for free than they ever could from purchasing one man's fairy tale from Amazon. Actually, everything you've listed as keynotes in your book can be found on Jamie's website for 100% free and anyone with a molecule of sense would give his viewpoint a lot more weight than your own. Just my $0.02.

Congrats on your marriage and best of luck.

[bcc_1_2]

Yea I'm with Bob... the guy just needed to know to ask to register as a commercial member. If he is willing to spend long enough to actually write an entire book I have no problem if he wants to promote it with one post... especially since it is on topic here. I do find it interesting that he calls a book he wrote about his actual life... a novel. This author might want to look up the definition of novel.
That being said he notes that he has been married for less than 2 years. So I wouldn't hold him up as an expert and I'm not sure he is suggesting that he is. Hey anyone can write about their life and try and make a buck. But when you put yourself out there like that... criticizing you becomes fair game.
I'm a bit tired of mainly domestic women puting down international dating and using couples like these two to do it. They play up the stereotypes and show you examples of a guy lacking social skills with the looks of a 5 or 6 dating a foreign women with the looks of an 8 or a 9. They show a bunch of blooper real of an awkward couple and there you have it.

[fathertime]

I remember when David posted here briefly in the past and I bet he lost his password or something.  He seemed like a real nice guy with a genuinely solid marriage with a VERY attractive lady, daughter.  He touts his book as a novel and I bet it is a good read.  I don't need it, but for a man new to the international dating arena  there could be some excellent insights.   I'm sure it would have been best to let Dan & Company know about the promotion first but still no reason to mock him or greet him with hostility!


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

Actually, everything you've listed as keynotes in your book can be found on Jamie's website for 100% free and anyone with a molecule of sense would give his viewpoint a lot more weight than your own. Just my $0.02.

 

I disagree with this statement wholeheartedly.  If this man has brought a woman back to the states and been with her over the course of several years, he could easily have some beneficial insights into relationships that are beneficial to other men.  Again, this is really a load of crap how he is being discredited when he took the time to write a book about his own experience.  I'm sure he would like to make a few bucks on the deal too, or at least break even, but I still don't see all the negatively towards the man who has done well for himself with a woman in the states.  Based on what I have read of him, I doubt he cast himself as an 'expert' in the book.  Maybe he is writing about what has worked for him.   


Fathertime! 

[Dan Las Vegas]

I´m curious to know how many trips he has made to Colombia, but if he has a relationship that is solid and wants to profit from his adventure, more power to him. I don't have to buy his book or take his advice, but others may find it useful.


Mickey, it might be more dangerous to drop him off in Parque Lleras!!


Dan LV

[lja1960]

Hello Everyone

I am sorry I made some of you upset by posting my book on this site. I tried several times (at least 6 times) contacting the site and asking how I could advertise or put the book on the storefront but never got a reply. Maybe I should have posted the question but did not think of that, so I am sorry. Look I am not an expert on anything this book is my true story about meeting my wife on a romance tour. I am just an average guy and I wanted other men to know there are options in finding there life partner and hopefully inspire them to take a trip. I also felt passionate about international dating and wanted to provide a different perspective of the industry to hopefully change people’s perception. I am not asking you to buy the book but if go to Amazon you can read the first two chapter and you will see how the book is written, this is a novel not a how to book.

A couple of side notes the book does not mention any agency by name I use a fictional agency name in the book and I had help writing this book from a professional ghostwriter.

Thanks Fathertime and you are correct I had forgotten my username and password

Again I am sorry for any problem I might have caused

Have good day

David

[benjio]

I disagree with this statement wholeheartedly.  If this man has brought a woman back to the states and been with her over the course of several years, he could easily have some beneficial insights into relationships that are beneficial to other men.  Again, this is really a load of crap how he is being discredited when he took the time to write a book about his own experience.  I'm sure he would like to make a few bucks on the deal too, or at least break even, but I still don't see all the negatively towards the man who has done well for himself with a woman in the states.  Based on what I have read of him, I doubt he cast himself as an 'expert' in the book.  Maybe he is writing about what has worked for him.   


Fathertime!

FT, you make an excellent point. But please, READ his post. He didn't advertise his book as a "benefitial insight" into relationships with foreign women. He's advertising it as a "How To" for guys planning to go to Colombia using an agency or a "romance tour" and what they should do when they get there. Again, Jamie's website is full of this information and it's free.
 
If his post said more about maintaining a relationship with a foreign woman back in the states and his experiences as they relate to that topic, I'd agree with you.
 
At any rate, I wasn't discrediting the guy at all. My first statement was "I'd like to know how long you've been married." This is my measure of how well someone can give me good advice when it comes to maintaining a successful marriage....something I don't know anything about; and the very reason I rarely attempt to give advice to a married man on this board. I'm sorry, but I know too many men that have taken this route and didn't end up in fairy tale land, and all they've been able to tell me is what NOT TO DO. I'd have the utmost respect for the opinions of any gringo maintaining a 5+ year marriage with a Colombiana in the U.S. if he wanted to share what TO DO!
 
According to you, your marriage is going great and the experience of finding a wife in Colombia was generally a positive one for you. I have always viewed your advice as it related to marriage and maintaining a relationship with a foreign woman as gold. Finding a woman to marry in Colombia that's willing to come back to live with you in the states is a pretty easy thing to do in my opinion. Staying married to her past all the normal issues a married couple have, not to mention the additional challenges that come from her being from another culture, is an entirely different story. Maybe you should spend more time on this board writing about exactly how you're continuing to maintain a successful marriage to a Colombiana in the U.S., and a little less defending men trying to sell advice on a completely different topic altogether. Just a suggestion... 

[Micky]

" I have written a novel “Encounter Your Destiny” to help others find their “special one”." -  David/lja 1960


Harsh and uncalled for?  That is YOUR opinion.  My opinion is when I read a line of BS that is what I call it.  He states that he reason for writing the book was to help others.  I say that IF that was the primary reason,  "to help others",  then he would be writing and posting on this web site.  Since other posts have been made in reference to his post,  it has been shown that he already knew of PL and had posted here before.  People take their time to post their experience in other countries here without compensation,  those are people who want to help others and share their knowledge and experience,  NOT someone promoting a book.
Futhermore,  if his first trip was in July 2010,  then there is the process of the visa for her,  guessing at least six months,  then they have been living together,  at most,  a year and a half?  That is more/less still the honeymoon stage,  I doubt that many would view that as enough time to claim a rock solid marriage.  He does not make that claim,  but by writing and promoting a book about the process,  that is certainly implied.

I hope that all goes well for David and his wife.  If he makes money from the book,  good for him.  Are there people that his book would help?,  probably so.  I will retract my calling him a "Putz",  all else that I said still goes.


Micky

[Buckmarston]

I enjoy reading more than sharing my own experiences.  A book detailing a man's experiences to a certain point in his marriage is not a concept that needs criticism.  Writing a book about your experiences is a brave thing to do.As was written here by 1 person, whatever is within the book is fair to comment and criticize.  Micky should show an ounce of class, swallow his pride and take back his entire attack.

[Ray]

Hello Everyone

I am sorry I made some of you upset by posting my book on this site. I tried several times (at least 6 times) contacting the site and asking how I could advertise or put the book on the storefront but never got a reply. Maybe I should have posted the question but did not think of that, so I am sorry. Look I am not an expert on anything this book is my true story about meeting my wife on a romance tour. I am just an average guy and I wanted other men to know there are options in finding there life partner and hopefully inspire them to take a trip. I also felt passionate about international dating and wanted to provide a different perspective of the industry to hopefully change people’s perception. I am not asking you to buy the book but if go to Amazon you can read the first two chapter and you will see how the book is written, this is a novel not a how to book.

A couple of side notes the book does not mention any agency by name I use a fictional agency name in the book and I had help writing this book from a professional ghostwriter.

Thanks Fathertime and you are correct I had forgotten my username and password

Again I am sorry for any problem I might have caused

Have good day

David

 
Hi David,
 
 
I was just curious why you promote your book as a "novel" when you say it is your "true story"? A novel is a fake story (fiction).
 
So is your story fake or real???
 
 
Ray
 
 

[fathertime]

 
According to you, your marriage is going great and the experience of finding a wife in Colombia was generally a positive one for you. I have always viewed your advice as it related to marriage and maintaining a relationship with a foreign woman as gold. Finding a woman to marry in Colombia that's willing to come back to live with you in the states is a pretty easy thing to do in my opinion. Staying married to her past all the normal issues a married couple have, not to mention the additional challenges that come from her being from another culture, is an entirely different story. Maybe you should spend more time on this board writing about exactly how you're continuing to maintain a successful marriage to a Colombiana in the U.S., and a little less defending men trying to sell advice on a completely different topic altogether. Just a suggestion... 

thanks, you make a valid point regarding me talking about how to maintain a very pleasant marriage, i'm glad you feel pretty good about my thoughts in that area....i do try to post what works for me through other peoples issues, as i know being married to an overseas babe is not as easy as it looks! ....keep in mind marital privacy is a pretty big factor in why not many details get divulged...but i'm pretty sure i could say more than I have to this point...i'll try to do a little better on that soon.


 now regarding David and the book...it is really hard to comment on the content of the book...i just like the fact that he has written one and I'm guessing their is a lot of good info in it.  I don't think he should be criticized for trying to share it with others...i'm guessing somewhere he has laid out his personal experience and then it is up to the individual readers to decide what type of respect his opinions/thoughts hold.


Fathertime! 

[robert angel]

 
If his post said more about maintaining a relationship with a foreign woman back in the states and his experiences as they relate to that topic, I'd agree with you.
 
At any rate, I wasn't discrediting the guy at all. My first statement was "I'd like to know how long you've been married." This is my measure of how well someone can give me good advice when it comes to maintaining a successful marriage....something I don't know anything about; and the very reason I rarely attempt to give advice to a married man on this board. I'm sorry, but I know too many men that have taken this route and didn't end up in fairy tale land, and all they've been able to tell me is what NOT TO DO. I'd have the utmost respect for the opinions of any gringo maintaining a 5+ year marriage with a Colombiana in the U.S. if he wanted to share what TO DO!
 
 Finding a woman to marry in Colombia that's willing to come back to live with you in the states is a pretty easy thing to do in my opinion. Staying married to her past all the normal issues a married couple have, not to mention the additional challenges that come from her being from another culture, is an entirely different story. Maybe you should spend more time on this board writing about exactly how you're continuing to maintain a successful marriage to a Colombiana in the U.S.

I'd like to know how long you've been married and how much time you've actually spent in Colombia. I personally believe any newbie on this forum considering a trip to Colombia to search for a significant other can learn MUCH more from the collective experiences of men here for free than they ever could from purchasing one man's fairy tale from Amazon. Actually, everything you've listed as keynotes in your book can be found on Jamie's website for 100% free and anyone with a molecule of sense would give his viewpoint a lot more weight than your own. Just my $0.02.

Seems that a lot of the posts here on P-L are more about the chase and less about the aftermath. There's a lot of talk about getting there, where to stay or not stay, the different sorts of women and so on--a lot of 'logistics', but not a whole lot about what it takes to take a woman from a very different culture thousands of miles from ours, plunk her down in the USA, set up house and a new life together and then make that marriage to her really work for an extended time.
 
For some it's a privacy thing and that's something to be very much respected, I feel, but I think it still leaves some readers here, male and female alike, wondering in regards to those of us who have been married a while: "How the hell do you make it work----how can/do you make it last?"  I think that among us here, there's considerable experience from both success and failure in marriage, that's scarcely shared. I suppose some folks wonder if maybe things aren't as rosey as others make things out to be, given their silence on their marriages. Folks will read as much, if not more, into silence than they do from a person's speaking out sometimes.
 
Well, for just $14.95, errrr---I mean for 'what it's worth', I think you CAN share--meaning that you can express 'how you make it work' in differing degrees to suit your comfort and still be helpful without showing the holes in your underwear or anything that'd piss your wife off or give your position away in any comprimizing manner.
 
I think people should know that (as far as I know), all of the guys on here who've been married for five or more years have had to deal 'issues' at various times. That's basically true with life in general and when you take two very different cultures and tie them together, just the things that don't 'translate' well from culture to culture alone are going to require some adjustments and a 'coming to an understanding'...
 
Just regarding 'translation' for example--I have been known to cuss and fuss a bit, and my wife's adjusted, but in eleven years knowing each other, including almost seven years married, she brought something from her culture that still makes her very angry when I say something along the line of "dammit--I don't want to hear that, dammit!!"
 
From where she's from, 'dammit' will forever be a personal pronoun. When things get really heated (rarely, thankfully) I can say: "I don't give a f___ing sh!t, honey!!" and it won't elicit more than a mild eyebrow raise, although I don't say that too much. But at home, (only at home) unlike before, SHE can swear in Italian and Yiddish . Even in public, I actually have heard her mutter 'shingles!' under her breath rarely, when something totally unexpectedly bad occurred. She's changed!
 
Heck, another example--my wife sometimes cooks food from her country, stuff she and her friends love, but the smell to me could knock a buzzard off a sh!t wagon. So we have a little outside kitchen set up, or she asks me if I wouldn't mind her going to a girlfriend's house where they can cook and eat that to their heart's content. That took some adjusting, but 90%+ of what she likes to cook that is a 'native dish', I enjoy eating too---we even cook together sometimes.
 
Along with that kind of 'adjusting to each other', I'm of the opinion that unless you're living in some remote area--in the proverbial 'Your own private Idaho"--your wife IS going to be changed from living in the USA and is likely to become at least a little more materialistic. It's HOW that manifests itself and HOW you deal with it that is rarely written about here.
 
What little we do hear about marriages here is almost always the 'good' and 'happy' stuff. I guess no one wants to owe up to, never mind write in length about their failures, although others, if they tune in, can learn a lot from such sharing. No one wants to write about their wife getting mad, carrying a pillow to the living room and them having to pick her up off the couch and carry her affirmatively back to the master bedroom--been there, done that a couple times.
 
We rarely hear about the 'nuts and bolts' of marriage, about the maintainance and tune ups that having an exotic (in this country) car, errr, I mean 'wife', requires to keep things running smoothly. If you don't do maintainance and tune ups on your marriage, it's just a matter of time before it breaks down. Roll with the changes and make adjustments on both sides, or else you're gonna get stuck or worse.
 
If we married big fat, ugly, submissive women or just shot Smith and Wesson revolvers--(two cheap dates that on the town or at the range will eat just about anything and never 'talk back' to you) it'd probably be a lot easier, but I'd venture to say that almost all the guys here who do marry a woman from overseas, end up with a somewhat pretty and high spirited woman--a 'force to be reckoned with' if you will.
 
If my wife was a push over--a 'meek and mild little lady', the life our family leads today wouldn't be as good as it is. She calls me out on my crap, including how I deal with the kids, my own siblings and parents----but NEVER in front of the family and certainly never in public. Without being screamer or a nagger, she nonetheless insists that we adhere to some standards of civilization that before she entered our lives, weren't necesarily 'high priority issues' among my sons and I. We eat on real plates instead of paper and put our dirty laundry in the hamper now, instead of attemping 'three point shots' with our grundies into the corners of our rooms!
 
What I'm saying probably isn't going to change things a bit here, but I really do feel that as a whole, this forum would be more useful--and I dare say even entertaining, if we shared stories and information about: 'Marriage---AFTER the honeymoon's over and beyond....'

[robert angel]

I enjoy reading more than sharing my own experiences.  A book detailing a man's experiences to a certain point in his marriage is not a concept that needs criticism.  Writing a book about your experiences is a brave thing to do.As was written here by 1 person, whatever is within the book is fair to comment and criticize.  Micky should show an ounce of class, swallow his pride and take back his entire attack.

Oh yea---if Mickey doesn't have "an ounce of class"--I'm an illiterate fat yuri AND a facist pig!
 
'Class' is a relative term, and while Mickey doesn't polish his balls or suffer fools too gladly, he's typically been a guy who was up front and ready, here or behind the scenes, to help people, including some guys who most of us here wrote off as pretty hopeless fecks.
 
From some folks here, you hear a lot of talk about their time in Colombia, time that in reality amounts to weeks spent. Afterwards, maybe they bring back a trophy wife and save for an occasional visit back, it's largely a memory.
 
Meanwhile, Mickey's had a life down there, family and all and not in some high rise or gated community at that. He's literally 'walking the walk' and sharing it, pimples, boils and all. As my old man used to say: "He calls em as he see's em"...
 
Don't get me wrong--Mickey doesn't need anybody to pitch for him-- it just kind of irks me to hear someone pretty new here suddenly piping in and totally dissing him...

[mambocowboy]

Seems that a lot of the posts here on P-L are more about the chase and less about the aftermath. There's a lot of talk about getting there, where to stay or not stay, the different sorts of women and so on--a lot of 'logistics', but not a whole lot about what it takes to take a woman from a very different culture thousands of miles from ours, plunk her down in the USA, set up house and a new life together and then make that marriage to her really work for an extended time.
 
For some it's a privacy thing and that's something to be very much respected, I feel, but I think it still leaves some readers here, male and female alike, wondering in regards to those of us who have been married a while: "How the hell do you make it work----how can/do you make it last?"  I think that among us here, there's considerable experience from both success and failure in marriage, that's scarcely shared. I suppose some folks wonder if maybe things aren't as rosey as others make things out to be, given their silence on their marriages. Folks will read as much, if not more, into silence than they do from a person's speaking out sometimes.
 
Well, for just $14.95, errrr---I mean for 'what it's worth', I think you CAN share--meaning that you can express 'how you make it work' in differing degrees to suit your comfort and still be helpful without showing the holes in your underwear or anything that'd piss your wife off or give your position away in any comprimizing manner.
 
I think people should know that (as far as I know), all of the guys on here who've been married for five or more years have had to deal 'issues' at various times. That's basically true with life in general and when you take two very different cultures and tie them together, just the things that don't 'translate' well from culture to culture alone are going to require some adjustments and a 'coming to an understanding'...
 
Just regarding 'translation' for example--I have been known to cuss and fuss a bit, and my wife's adjusted, but in eleven years knowing each other, including almost seven years married, she brought something from her culture that still makes her very angry when I say something along the line of "dammit--I don't want to hear that, dammit!!"
 
From where she's from, 'dammit' will forever be a personal pronoun. When things get really heated (rarely, thankfully) I can say: "I don't give a f___ing sh!t, honey!!" and it won't elicit more than a mild eyebrow raise, although I don't say that too much. But at home, (only at home) unlike before, SHE can swear in Italian and Yiddish . Even in public, I actually have heard her mutter 'shingles!' under her breath rarely, when something totally unexpectedly bad occurred. She's changed!
 
Heck, another example--my wife sometimes cooks food from her country, stuff she and her friends love, but the smell to me could knock a buzzard off a sh!t wagon. So we have a little outside kitchen set up, or she asks me if I wouldn't mind her going to a girlfriend's house where they can cook and eat that to their heart's content. That took some adjusting, but 90%+ of what she likes to cook that is a 'native dish', I enjoy eating too---we even cook together sometimes.
 
Along with that kind of 'adjusting to each other', I'm of the opinion that unless you're living in some remote area--in the proverbial 'Your own private Idaho"--your wife IS going to be changed from living in the USA and is likely to become at least a little more materialistic. It's HOW that manifests itself and HOW you deal with it that is rarely written about here.
 
What little we do hear about marriages here is almost always the 'good' and 'happy' stuff. I guess no one wants to owe up to, never mind write in length about their failures, although others, if they tune in, can learn a lot from such sharing. No one wants to write about their wife getting mad, carrying a pillow to the living room and them having to pick her up off the couch and carry her affirmatively back to the master bedroom--been there, done that a couple times.
 
We rarely hear about the 'nuts and bolts' of marriage, about the maintainance and tune ups that having an exotic (in this country) car, errr, I mean 'wife', requires to keep things running smoothly. If you don't do maintainance and tune ups on your marriage, it's just a matter of time before it breaks down. Roll with the changes and make adjustments on both sides, or else you're gonna get stuck or worse.
 
If we married big fat, ugly, submissive women or just shot Smith and Wesson revolvers--(two cheap dates that on the town or at the range will eat just about anything and never 'talk back' to you) it'd probably be a lot easier, but I'd venture to say that almost all the guys here who do marry a woman from overseas, end up with a somewhat pretty and high spirited woman--a 'force to be reckoned with' if you will.
 
If my wife was a push over--a 'meek and mild little lady', the life our family leads today wouldn't be as good as it is. She calls me out on my crap, including how I deal with the kids, my own siblings and parents----but NEVER in front of the family and certainly never in public. Without being screamer or a nagger, she nonetheless insists that we adhere to some standards of civilization that before she entered our lives, weren't necesarily 'high priority issues' among my sons and I. We eat on real plates instead of paper and put our dirty laundry in the hamper now, instead of attemping 'three point shots' with our grundies into the corners of our rooms!
 
What I'm saying probably isn't going to change things a bit here, but I really do feel that as a whole, this forum would be more useful--and I dare say even entertaining, if we shared stories and information about: 'Marriage---AFTER the honeymoon's over and beyond....'

Well said. I got way more out of this site pre-first Colombia trip. Now that I'm married, a lot less, obviously...As a gringo currently married to a Colombiana, I think I'm doing it the hard way. Take the normal stresses of being married, then add in language and cultural differences, and it makes for quite a challenge, although for me it's very rewarding.  For any guy who thinks going into this process that it's somehow "easier," he'll be unpleasantly surprised.....

[whitey]

Excellent posts, Rob.  I agree we write much more about the chase than what happens after the catch.  Nazly and I are coming up to our one year anniversary together in Canada at the end of this month.  I was planning to post some sort of synopsis ... for sure you have guilted me into making sure I do.


By the way, I'm enjoying your new avatars ... I should blow the dust off mine and post something new one of these days.


And Micky ... he knows nothing of Colombia ... spends his days drinking $8.000 cups of lattes in the Juan Valdez in Lleras ...

[Buckmarston]

Since micky lives in colombia and comments often he has license to call them how he sees them.  How is it germane where he live?  I live in the United States and I also am calling it how I see it.  Classless and unnecesary comments he made to the author of the book.  I enjoy reading a variety of different media and don't like two see people torn down wantonly.    Please be more considerate of the rest of us before you use your clout to drive other people away.

[V_Man]

Seems that a lot of the posts here on P-L are more about the chase and less about the aftermath. There's a lot of talk about getting there, where to stay or not stay, the different sorts of women and so on--a lot of 'logistics', but not a whole lot about what it takes to take a woman from a very different culture thousands of miles from ours, plunk her down in the USA, set up house and a new life together and then make that marriage to her really work for an extended time.
---snip----
 
What I'm saying probably isn't going to change things a bit here, but I really do feel that as a whole, this forum would be more useful--and I dare say even entertaining, if we shared stories and information about: 'Marriage---AFTER the honeymoon's over and beyond....'

Absolutely!!! Such info would be gold for me!!! 

[Micky]

RA -

Thanks for telling everyone about my "balls".  I thought that I made it clear you were not to tell anyone else,  that was between us!

Whitey -

I love you also,  sorry for not sharing the info about my "balls" with you,  but we all know that you can't keep a secret the way RA does.

BM -

I stated my opinion,  you stated your opinion,  is that not good enough?  Let those sink or stand on their own.  If you want to make comments about my lack of class,  how I make wanton attacks,  etc,  go right ahead and do so.  Those are your opinions and you have every right to make them,  enjoy.

Micky

[benjio]

Rob, good stuff and thanks for sharing. Like I was saying, you just don't see many posts with that type of content on the board too often.

[lja1960]

Hello Ray

Yes it is my true story from about 2 months before going on the romance tour until the day of our wedding. I should have said biography my mistake.

have a great day

David