Anyone ever have trouble with a latina's narco bf?

[love2golf]

So, from what I'm reading on here, the best way to meet a hot latina is simply the cold approach...walk up and start a conversation with her. I work in sales and do cold calls/door knocking all the time, so this doesn't bother me much.  I was wondering if anyone has ever hit on the wrong latina though.  Has anyone hit on a super hot chica in a bar or club and then had her narco bf come up and cause trouble? I'm just curious how someone would qualify a lady as single and approachable, or do you just go for it? I'm just a little concerned that if I see a super hot model-type "10" in Cali and go up to her, I might get into some serious trouble if she isn't exactly available.

[michaelb]

Well, you know Jay Black had that exact problem back in 1964....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBKkrzCRAd0

But seriously, I think that when Jose came back to the table he would let you know she wasn't available and if you were smart enough to take his hint, that should be the end of it.

[htown]

Accidentally approaching a narco's girlfriend probably wouldn't be so dangerous. 
 
What would be dangerous is if you didnt' find out about the narco boyfriend/ex boyfriend until after there's already an attachment, say 2-3 months into the relationship.

[benjio]

Accidentally approaching a narco's girlfriend probably wouldn't be so dangerous. 
 
What would be dangerous is if you didnt' find out about the narco boyfriend/ex boyfriend until after there's already an attachment, say 2-3 months into the relationship.

HTown is correct. Even the girlfriends of these guys usually know better. The problems arise when you have a girl that's fed up (because most of these guys have 3 or 4 girlfriends) and she doesn't tell you about him.
 
I made this mistake of approaching a very well known drug traffickers girlfriend in Pereira. The guy was actually paying for a meal after they had both eaten inside a restaurant. She was standing outside alone waiting for the valet to bring his car around. This girl was just too gorgeous for me not to take my chances but I should have known better. She actually tried to warn me with her body language but by the time he came out, there I was asking could I give her a call sometime. He gave me a really dirty look, told me "Cuidado Negrito, eh" grabbed her hand, threw her in the car, and sped off. I could tell she was probably going to get it a lot worse than I did after they left. A friend of mine I was there with told me I was lucky, because the guy was very well known for being ruthless when he lost his temper.
 
I have done this dozens of times, so I'd recommend this: if an exceptionally attractive girl that's very well dressed and well groomed is standing alone by herself anywhere in Colombia, wait a second and check out your surroundings before approaching her.

[htown]

You don't have to go all the way to colombia to get in trouble messing with a narco's girlfriend.  There are plenty of drugdealers right here in the usa that will mess you up or have you messed up for talking to their girlfriend.

[Gato4Astrid]

The safest way is to find an ugly Colombiana lol

[Zon]

An interesting side note is that many, many beautiful women in Colombia would just as soon be the woman of a narco as a medical Doctor, or business man.


Admittedly, when I was in Colombia, I was not walking around with my nose in the air ... I wanted to live and breath and taste and eat.  That gave me ample experience with the middle and bottom of the barrell (of course there were some exceptions, but generally ...)    I wonder if I went to Colombia with a different, more reserved and constructive attitude, if I would find women with stronger morals and higher self esteem?


Maybe I will have the chance to find out in 2013

[htown]

An interesting side note is that many, many beautiful women in Colombia would just as soon be the woman of a narco as a medical Doctor, or business man.

The same exact thing can be said about women in usa, mexico, and pretty much anywhere else.  Money talks.

[Calipro]

So, from what I'm reading on here, the best way to meet a hot latina is simply the cold approach...walk up and start a conversation with her. I work in sales and do cold calls/door knocking all the time, so this doesn't bother me much.  I was wondering if anyone has ever hit on the wrong latina though.  Has anyone hit on a super hot chica in a bar or club and then had her narco bf come up and cause trouble? I'm just curious how someone would qualify a lady as single and approachable, or do you just go for it? I'm just a little concerned that if I see a super hot model-type "10" in Cali and go up to her, I might get into some serious trouble if she isn't exactly available.

There are no "super hot model types" in Cali that don't have something going on with someone.



Going up to chicks in a high end club to hit on them is not a good way to go about meeting women in Cali. And of course you will probably get some aggravation from the guy that invited her out because very few women go out alone.  Could be that you could meet a woman that is with a group and is unattached but you still might get blocked because someone else still paid for her to get in and is paying for her drinks.


Colombians tend to go out in groups....and often there will be twice as many women as men in the group ...but you will still have trouble picking one off....at the very best you might get a phone number that is it.


There are only two practical ways to break into groups in high end clubs in Cali.....make friends with the guy that is footing the bill and wait for him to introduce you the women in his group......or the way I prefer....take a couple hot model types out that are very friendly so colombianos will introduce you to their women so they can meet yours.
Three seems to be the magic number.....took three friendly hot model types out to LOLAS one night and met more women in one night than I had meet in all then times I had been there combined.

[fathertime]

Admittedly, when I was in Colombia, I was not walking around with my nose in the air ... I wanted to live and breath and taste and eat.  That gave me ample experience with the middle and bottom of the barrell (of course there were some exceptions, but generally ...)    I wonder if I went to Colombia with a different, more reserved and constructive attitude, if I would find women with stronger morals and higher self esteem?


Maybe I will have the chance to find out in 2013

that is kinda a weird statement zonny....You can have a more reserved/constructive demeanor without having your nose in the air.    Yeah I would say that you were doing something to attract the wrong type of ladies.  It is up to you to make whatever changes you feel you need to make, in order to find a woman for a normal family lifestyle which it appears you are leaning towards wanting nowadays.


Fathertime!   

[Zon]

that is kinda a weird statement zonny....You can have a more reserved/constructive demeanor without having your nose in the air.    Yeah I would say that you were doing something to attract the wrong type of ladies.  It is up to you to make whatever changes you feel you need to make, in order to find a woman for a normal family lifestyle which it appears you are leaning towards wanting nowadays.

Speaking in generalities, of course ...


I thought most of the women in Cali were party girls - 99%.  There were some women that came from good families (rich) that were guarded - secluded and aware that to mix freely was to be with the lowest common denominator.


I thought most of the women in Medellin were, in the best of cases, like girls that go to Hollywood searching for a "big break".  I realized that if I took the complete opposite of their statement, I was more in the area of truth.  And, having said that, I DID IN FACT meet some honest, nice Paisas - but that is the minority.


Then, there were wonderful, friendly people I met in the smaller pueblos.  These people, and women, were more natural, unspoiled, and without a social agenda.  BUT, there were a little "simple".


So where in Colombia are women that are attractive, and elegant, and educated, that come from good families (not broken), honest and well intentioned.  Add to that with a little courage and fun to be with ... the type of women that you can fall in love with without reservation, and easily plug into a modern life?   


I think I am looking for too much! 

[whitey]

So where in Colombia are women that are attractive, and elegant, and educated, that come from good families (not broken), honest and well intentioned.  Add to that with a little courage and fun to be with ... the type of women that you can fall in love with without reservation, and easily plug into a modern life?   

I think I am looking for too much!

Zon, you'll find the highest percentage of these women in the largest cities (Barranquilla, Cali, Medellin, and especially Bogota).


They are the "normal" women that are working in health care, insurance, banks, government, office administration, schools, large hotels, psychologists, etc, etc.  Lot's are also under employed and working in retail, at grocery store chains like Exito and Carrefour.  You can also find them in high end gyms like Bodytech, early in the morning or after work.  All university educated, most coming from decent families.


It's really no mystery.  How do you meet them?  Not at bars or hanging out in Poblado.  Beyond that, I'm not much help ... I was lucky to be introduced to my wife by a mutual friend.

[Calipro]

So where in Colombia are women that are attractive, and elegant, and educated, that come from good families (not broken), honest and well intentioned.  Add to that with a little courage and fun to be with ... the type of women that you can fall in love with without reservation, and easily plug into a modern life?   


I think I am looking for too much!

I was at a concert with an american friend of mine in Cali and we were standing not far from the Platinum section where the tables go for about 5 million. There was a guy sitting at a table not far from us with three of the hottest women my friend had ever seen. They were all done up boob jobs ass jobs beautiful face and after a while it became somewhat  apparent that they where all three with him, literally,


My friend asked me where to you suppose a guy like that (mid 40's) found three of the hottest chicks on the planet. I told him I didn't think he found them...I think he made them.


You just find a young hot chick that is into you and who  hasn't had to abuse herself to make it through life up til now and turn her into what you want.


You want a chick that plays tennis.....give her some tennis lessons.....finding a young chick in Colombia that is open to just about anything.....isn't all that hard.
Finding a finished product just waiting for you to come along and pick her up....next to impossible.

[fathertime]

Speaking in generalities, of course ...


I thought most of the women in Cali were party girls - 99%.  There were some women that came from good families (rich) that were guarded - secluded and aware that to mix freely was to be with the lowest common denominator.


I thought most of the women in Medellin were, in the best of cases, like girls that go to Hollywood searching for a "big break".  I realized that if I took the complete opposite of their statement, I was more in the area of truth.  And, having said that, I DID IN FACT meet some honest, nice Paisas - but that is the minority.


Then, there were wonderful, friendly people I met in the smaller pueblos.  These people, and women, were more natural, unspoiled, and without a social agenda.  BUT, there were a little "simple".


So where in Colombia are women that are attractive, and elegant, and educated, that come from good families (not broken), honest and well intentioned.  Add to that with a little courage and fun to be with ... the type of women that you can fall in love with without reservation, and easily plug into a modern life?   


I think I am looking for too much!

Well zonnyboy, you are asking for a lot in that last paragraph...I don't see a problem with having SOME reservation regarding a woman.  Time will always tell.  Sounds to me like you have fiddled around enough, and need to get a little more determined if you are capable of switching gears, which I think quite a few men have difficulty doing.


Fathertime! 

[stnmasn]

yes Zon you are asking for a lot.....i was wondering where in the rest of the world (not just colombia) can you find the type of woman you are looking for.....i have a feeling she may  have not been born yet!!!

[whitey]

Not really.  That paragraph describes my buddy's girlfriend from Bogota perfectly ... and the one before that.  Take out the word elegant, and it would describe my wife.

[Zon]

I told him I didn't think he found them...I think he made them.


You just find a young hot chick that is into you and who  hasn't had to abuse herself to make it through life up til now and turn her into what you want.


You want a chick that plays tennis.....give her some tennis lessons.....finding a young chick in Colombia that is open to just about anything.....isn't all that hard.
Finding a finished product just waiting for you to come along and pick her up....next to impossible.

I personally call Calipro "The Terminator" because he takes the complexities of life and the emotions out of the equation.  And so here again, he says perhaps the most truthful, real, and complete male observation that can be uttered on this subject.  Damn, Wayne!  your good  ... I'm going to set up a finishing school now:)

Whitey - you are a gem; and yes, I think you were lucky too

[fathertime]

I personally call Calipro "The Terminator" because he takes the complexities of life and the emotions out of the equation.  And so here again, he says perhaps the most truthful, real, and complete male observation that can be uttered on this subject.  Damn, Wayne!  your good


I'm going to set up a finishing school now.

i agree with what calipro said also about shaping a lady after the fact, just remember that if you want it real you need to be the right type of man yourself!  i think that is most of your battle. 


Fathertime! 

[htown]

just remember that if you want it real you need to be the right type of man yourself!  i think that is most of your battle.

This pretty much sums it up right here.


I find it funny when guys try to say that there are no good women in colombia.  Do you really think colombia is that much different than any other country?


Zon I remember a while back I clicked on some website you had where you were advertising some "porn palace" or "porn mansion" in the dominican republic.  And when I clicked on the link the website tried to install a virus on my computer!  What kind of crap is that zon?  You really must be a real sleazy, slimy guy to be involved in something like that.  High quality women and high quality people, in general, in colombia and everywhere else in the world are bred and raised to avoid people who are not on their level.  It's just the way things naturally work out.  That may explain why you've been relegated to only being exposed to the lower rungs of colombian society.




disclaimer: I may or may not have done plenty of sleazy and slimy stuff myself so in no way am I judging anybody.

[Zon]

Zon I remember a while back I clicked on some website you had where you were advertising some "porn palace" or "porn mansion" in the dominican republic.  And when I clicked on the link the website tried to install a virus on my computer!  What kind of crap is that zon?  You really must be a real sleazy, slimy guy to be involved in something like that.  High quality women and high quality people, in general, in colombia and everywhere else in the world are bred and raised to avoid people who are not on their level.  It's just the way things naturally work out.  That may explain why you've been relegated to only being exposed to the lower rungs of colombian society

1, while it is true, and this should be a lesson to everybody, that I have been a party of some crazy/fun events and "going ons" ... I have never been, done, or completed the tasks that many presume.   In the old days, assumption injured those that did the assuming - not any more.

2, I have no idea of what site you went to, or what virus there may have been.  I think they suck.  I get viruses too.

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HOWEVER, I would feel guilty if my stupid horse[snip] got in the way of this very excellent statement:

CaliPro says  ... "I told him I didn't think he found them...I think he made them. You just find a young hot chick that is into you and who  hasn't had to abuse herself to make it through life up til now and turn her into what you want."  And the truth and weight of this statement rings in my ears

[htown]

Haha!!  Hell yea if you can't find a hot, educated, elegant woman just make you one.  Right on, sign me up!


I must add that one doesn't have to go all the way to colombia to sponsor some chick's tuition, boob job, or wardrobe.  Just go down to your local community college and you'll find plenty of 20 year olds struggling to pay for tuition, car note, rent, partying expenses, shopping at the mall, the newest smartphone, etc, etc.  Many of them are on the verge of becoming strippers, and many are strippers already. 


One good strategy is go down to a place like hooters and hook up with the waitresses.  These girls are literally on the verge of whoring themselves out stripping and escorting.  You got to catch them right before they take that final step into the easy money lifestyle.  Pay her way and steer her back to the road of being the woman you want her to be.

[Calipro]

Haha!!  Hell yea if you can't find a hot, educated, elegant woman just make you one.  Right on, sign me up!


I must add that one doesn't have to go all the way to colombia to sponsor some chick's tuition, boob job, or wardrobe.  Just go down to your local community college and you'll find plenty of 20 year olds struggling to pay for tuition, car note, rent, partying expenses, shopping at the mall, the newest smartphone, etc, etc.  Many of them are on the verge of becoming strippers, and many are strippers already. 


One good strategy is go down to a place like hooters and hook up with the waitresses.  These girls are literally on the verge of whoring themselves out stripping and escorting.  You got to catch them right before they take that final step into the easy money lifestyle.  Pay her way and steer her back to the road of being the woman you want her to be.

Hey if you can score hot college girls and turn them into good wife material....I wouldn't waste any time going to Colombia. jajaja


I'm not an american woman hater by any means.....they treated me pretty damn good until I hit my 30's .....now that I'm 50 the difference between what I can land state side
and Colombia is so big I couldn't go back even if I wanted to.


Not sponsoring a chick is fine for casual relationships..... I do it all the time.....but if you really want a serious relationship with a colombiana and you have problem with sponsorship you are going to have a tuff time of it in Medellin especially. Only other option is to fine one that can actually take care of herself entirely without any help... those are going to be few and far between...and probably fairly unattractive or she would have already been snatched up. jajaja

[Zon]

1, RE: "Making your ideal woman" mentality in USA versus Other places.


I am not bragging (I am surprised) but I am dating women in Florida now that are just about as hot and young as Colombianas.   Why?  I have a decent personality, an interesting story, and more money than most of the 20 - 30 year olds in these parts.   It fills the dance card, but it comes with all the drama / baggage / American women thing.   So, if you invest in a college girl / hooters girl / stripper in the USA ... it really is not the same thing.


I have a good friend that just broke up with a Colombiana after 2 years.   He is good looking, sort of successful, but recently struggling, a great personality ... and he has NO problem getting women in any country.   She is 31, with a child, and a business owner in Medellin - she has her crap together more than 98% of Paisas. she is 31, he is 41.  Age and league are really not THAT big of a stretch in this case.   But, what gave the relationship tension was the man moving to Colombia and being a little "in transition" financially. 


My point is that if you do not have the cabbage to fund the project ... it is going to be VERY hard to make something good stick with a attractive woman that has her crap together.  To think anything else is naive.


2, There is a BIG difference between a good capable 30 year old woman looking for a husband (with the best of intentions), and a woman 20- 26.  Yes, it is risky to be with such a young woman, but you can mold her to a large degree.   If you stay out of the USA (or the USA mentality), that is the best way to go in my opinion.


 

[htown]

It's funny we're having this discussion about "molding" a younger woman with potential.  I'm in the process of doing just that with my girlfriend right now in texas.  She's a 24 year old mexican girl who I've been dating off and on for 4 years.  She came here illegally when she was 19 and still doesn't have papers, but she's very attractive and hard-working.  When we first met we talked about her goals and what she wants to do with her life.  Her plan was to work here and save up money to return to mexico and open up a beauty salon. 


At the time she was working for a company that does decorations at malls and office buildings, think the christmas decorations at the shopping malls type thing.  I told her if she plans on opening a beauty salon she needs to at least work in that industry a few years first.  Well, finally about 6 months ago I took the initative and took her to look at beauty schools and we found one close to her home.  I've been paying the tuition fees  and now she's halfway to completing the course and getting her cosmetology license.  She truly loves going to school everyday and even has quite a few customers on the side that she makes money from. 


Her family is very impressed that she's doing something to better her situation.  I've told her that once she finishes the school and gets her license I'd consider helping her open her own salon here or in Mexico.  I'm sure once she finishes school she's going to want to buy some boobs.  The girl was very blessed with having a perfect naturally toned body but got screwed bigtime in the chest department lol.  She's basically been ready to marry me for a few years now but I've told her that I don't see that happening.  But I still care about her enough to help her become independent and self-employed doing what she loves to do, and afford the boobs she wants, lol.


I've met ALOT of other girls in similar situations here in the usa (some immigrants, some not) that could benefit tremendously from a man stepping in and easing the financial burden and make it much easier for her to pursue a path to success.


I remember a BEAUTIFUL 19 year old blonde I met a few years ago.  She was smart and classy and ready to go to college.  The only problem was she didn't have the means to pay for it, so she was in the process of enlisting in the military.  I asked her why on earth a beautiful girl like her would want to go to the military and I remember the stressful look she gave me when she said there was just no way she'd be able to afford it on her own since her family wasn't financially able to help her either.  This was when I was alot younger and poorer so there wasn't much I could offer either, but if she had somehow bumped into the right guy...  This girl I could tell had good morals so there was no way she was going to go work at hooters or go looking for a rich guy so I'm pretty sure she did it the hard way through the military.

[michaelb]

Are you sure they will give her a license? Won't they check to see if she is here legally and deny the license  when they discover that she isn't?