Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish?

[guru6]

Greetings all,

Im aged early 40s, from Australia, and am considering a trip to Latin America.
One of the reasons is to meet woman, as I would like to find a suitable partner to marry in the next few years.

How important is it to have proficient Spanish language speaking skills?  I currently have no Spanish at all. 

Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish language skills?

Many guys here like Colombia, but how is that with no Spanish?

Also I would prefer to meet educated woman with a decent job/career who can hold a decent conversation.

Are intelligent woman in South America with a good job interested in marrying foriegn men and leaving their country?

Thanks in advance for any tips, experiences and suggestions.

Steve

[michaelb]

Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish language skills?

Belize

[mudd]

Chile or Argentina

[JasonA]

Hey, Steve!
 
I am not as experienced as others on here, but I have made 3 trips this year and have little Spanish speaking skills.
 
Here is my advice: Create an account on LAC. Sort the women by age, english ability and education level. See if you hit it off with someone there, then travel to her city. She will essentially be your tour guide and translator. About 10 days before you travel, you might want to contact one or two other girls to serve as "backups" in case something happens with your primary girl (nothing will probably happen, but just in case...).  If you are wanting someone educated, Bogota and Lima are you best bets.
 
Good luck!
 
 

[JasonA]

Forgot....  also sort by whether they are willing to relocate.

[benjio]

Greetings all,

Im aged early 40s, from Australia, and am considering a trip to Latin America.
One of the reasons is to meet woman, as I would like to find a suitable partner to marry in the next few years.

How important is it to have proficient Spanish language speaking skills?  I currently have no Spanish at all. 

Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish language skills?

Many guys here like Colombia, but how is that with no Spanish?

Also I would prefer to meet educated woman with a decent job/career who can hold a decent conversation.

Are intelligent woman in South America with a good job interested in marrying foriegn men and leaving their country?

Thanks in advance for any tips, experiences and suggestions.

Steve

If money isn't an issue, Rio De Janeiro. A decent hotel will probably cost you at the very least $350 USD a night, and flights there from Australia will probably run you in the neighborhood of $2500 USD at the very cheapest. But there is a huge pool of absolutely beautiful, English Speaking, well educated women from affluent backgrounds that aren't interested in local men. Most have already traveled extensively and are very well equipped to live and excel in more complexed societies like the U.S. or Australia. Rio de Janeiro is one of the only cities in Latin America out of the dozens I've been to where you'll find many women living alone, in their own apartments, that own a car.They can be found in the malls, bars, clubs, restaurants, museums, but mostly on the beach during the weekends when the weather is decent (almost always). Another really good place is beauty salons. Go and get your hair cut at a female beauty salon anywhere in Latin America. I can guarantee as a "lost gringo in need of help" you'll make tons of friends. It's what I call the "lost puppy dog effect." Works everytime with Latinas. Most Brazilian Women are very nice and approachable. I have yet to meet a Brasilera with an attitude or a chip on her shoulder. The only thing I don't like about the upper class girls is they are very jugdemental of poorer people and Brazilians from the North. Most foreign men come to Southern Brazil to monger so this is an aspect of the culture you'll very rarely hear about.
 
Rio can be tricky though. When you go out to meet women there, wherever that may be, you have to always be mindful of the fact that any interested parties may be working girls. Prostitution is not just a business transaction in Southern Brazil. There are many girls who are looking for an American or a European Boyfriend to take care of them. They will dress nice, speak English, and lie to you about having a normal job. They are comparable to Prepagos in Colombia, but a huge difference is some working girls from Rio might never ask you for money. They'll play the game and make you think you've volunteered to support them when they feel they've got you hooked. A LOT of American and European Guys marry women that use to be prostitutes in Brazil without ever knowing anything about their past. Some guys do know and still marry them. The trick is to find girls that aren't looking for you. The sex will leave you blinded to good sense until you get use to it, regardless.

[Calipro]

Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish language skills?

Many guys here like Colombia, but how is that with no Spanish?

Also I would prefer to meet educated woman with a decent job/career who can hold a decent conversation.

Are intelligent woman in South America with a good job interested in marrying foriegn men and leaving their country?

Thanks in advance for any tips, experiences and suggestions.

Steve

If you really want to meet women that speak some english, have a job and are still willing to relocate....go to Bogota.


I know guys that have to go to Chile and Argentina and they claim to have a hard time just getting a date (especially in Argentina)....can't imagine the up hill battle to get one to marry you and leave their country. jajaja


No place in Latin America can beat Colombia when it comes to women wanting to get married and are open to leaving their country.

[mudd]

might look into ecuador also, few guys on here married girls from there are are doing well

[Chris F]

Hello Geru!!
I have been to Cali and Bogota many times before meeting my wife in Peru.
Bogota does have a high percentage of women who speak at least some English and are educated or whoare in white collar professions.
I found the same when dating women in Peru while meeting my wife. My wife was educated and held a great job when I met her but did not speak English.  I studued the language for about six months beofre going which was enough for me to get by.
I would look into Bogota as well as Lima Peru for a higher percentage of women who are educated with English. Latin Intro is a wonderful matchmaking service owned by Nelson. Check out his site.
Also for women from Peru check out Cherryblossoms.com
Good Luck!!
 
 
 

[whitey]

Lot's of good advice already.  I would echo those who have said Bogota is a good spot.  Benjio ... always enjoy hearing about Rio ... if I ever won the lottery and my wife divorced me, that's where I would go ...


Geru ... start learning Spanish now ... no excuses not to start.  It was one of the best things I've done in my life.  It not only was the reason I met my wife, but has helped facilitate many other friendships and has made my trips to Colombia and other Spanish speaking countries much richer.

[Bob_S]

Which country whould have the best prospects for me with no Spanish language skills?

The Philippines.  A Spanish country with no Spanish.


A general rule of thumb: Women of Asia and Eastern Europe do not expect you to know their language.  Latin American women WILL expect you to speak their language.  Start learning it or look elsewhere.

[Alabamaboy!]

I would advice you to just suck it up and learn some Spanish. You can learn what you need in 3 months if you really sacrifice and make a strong effort. You do not need to be fluent, but will be able to get the ball rolling. Without some Spanish, I think you are going to have a big time uphill battle in SA. In my case, the more Spanish I was able to speak, the better off and smoother the whole process went. Also much less chance to be taken advantage of if you are able to communicate and understand Spanish.

The guys talking about Bogota are right, they do speak more English there, but I did not see very many attractive women there. And the ones I did see appeared to be very "high maintenance".

[benjio]

I would advice you to just suck it up and learn some Spanish. You can learn what you need in 3 months if you really sacrifice and make a strong effort. You do not need to be fluent, but will be able to get the ball rolling. Without some Spanish, I think you are going to have a big time uphill battle in SA. In my case, the more Spanish I was able to speak, the better off and smoother the whole process went. Also much less chance to be taken advantage of if you are able to communicate and understand Spanish.

The guys talking about Bogota are right, they do speak more English there, but I did not see very many attractive women there. And the ones I did see appeared to be very "high maintenance".

Bama, I use to think exactly the same way. LOL!!! But there are a lot of really attractive women in Bogota. I had to be there for a few weeks at a time on multiple occasions to realize that. It's just to the spoiled eye (i.e. any man that has spent time in almost any other city in Colombia), it doesn't seem that way. The city is more spread out and there are so many more people, so it's a much rarer occurence to run across those "traffic-stoppers" most of us are very familiar with from traveling to other parts of Colombia. There are simply more attractive women per capita in every other major city, hands down. If a man's motivation for dating in Colombia is purely for the women's looks, there are actually some smaller cities you'd do better in than in Bogota. I've said it before and I'll say it again, in Armenia, Neiva and Palmira a man can get whiplash if he's not careful. Honestly, most of the exceptionally attractive women I meet that live in Bogota are from Medellin, but they are still IN Bogota.
 
I suggested Brazil because exceptionally attractive, highly educated women in Bogota are usually untouchable. They fall right in between that Estrato where either you'd never find yourself in the right circle of people to get to know them, or they simply have such a great life in Colombia they'd have absolutely no interest in leaving. At least that's how the prettiest girls in Bogota I know are. So it's not that there aren't hot girls there. You can however get more bang for your buck anywhere else in Colombia. Maybe not an 8 with a Master's Degree in another city, but definitely a 10 that's willing and able to earn one if you play your cards right.
 
As far as everything you said about learning Spanish, I couldn't agree more.

[htown]

If money isn't an issue, Rio De Janeiro. A decent hotel will probably cost you at the very least $350 USD a night, and flights there from Australia will probably run you in the neighborhood of $2500 USD at the very cheapest. But there is a huge pool of absolutely beautiful, English Speaking, well educated women from affluent backgrounds that aren't interested in local men. Most have already traveled extensively and are very well equipped to live and excel in more complexed societies like the U.S. or Australia. Rio de Janeiro is one of the only cities in Latin America out of the dozens I've been to where you'll find many women living alone, in their own apartments, that own a car.They can be found in the malls, bars, clubs, restaurants, museums, but mostly on the beach during the weekends when the weather is decent (almost always). Another really good place is beauty salons. Go and get your hair cut at a female beauty salon anywhere in Latin America. I can guarantee as a "lost gringo in need of help" you'll make tons of friends. It's what I call the "lost puppy dog effect." Works everytime with Latinas. Most Brazilian Women are very nice and approachable. I have yet to meet a Brasilera with an attitude or a chip on her shoulder. The only thing I don't like about the upper class girls is they are very jugdemental of poorer people and Brazilians from the North. Most foreign men come to Southern Brazil to monger so this is an aspect of the culture you'll very rarely hear about.
 
Rio can be tricky though. When you go out to meet women there, wherever that may be, you have to always be mindful of the fact that any interested parties may be working girls. Prostitution is not just a business transaction in Southern Brazil. There are many girls who are looking for an American or a European Boyfriend to take care of them. They will dress nice, speak English, and lie to you about having a normal job. They are comparable to Prepagos in Colombia, but a huge difference is some working girls from Rio might never ask you for money. They'll play the game and make you think you've volunteered to support them when they feel they've got you hooked. A LOT of American and European Guys marry women that use to be prostitutes in Brazil without ever knowing anything about their past. Some guys do know and still marry them. The trick is to find girls that aren't looking for you. The sex will leave you blinded to good sense until you get use to it, regardless.

Brazil?  He said he doesn't speak spanish, didn't mention that he didn't speak portuguese!  Lol, jk!  Good info, I gotta get my butt down to brazil sometime soon. 


Quick question, are there plenty of very white brasileiras in rio?  I've read that porto alegre is predominantly white city, but what about other parts of brazil?  Rio, sampa?  I'm just asking because I want a girl that looks like the ones in this video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm55lU9knw

[mudd]

 educated and can learn english and can transplant easily without taking you to the cleaners jajaj- only city in colombia would be bogota.


peru- lima,
ecuador, quito


their are a few more, but just my opinion

[braziliangirl]

Brazil?  He said he doesn't speak spanish, didn't mention that he didn't speak portuguese!  Lol, jk!  Good info, I gotta get my butt down to brazil sometime soon. 


Quick question, are there plenty of very white brasileiras in rio?  I've read that porto alegre is predominantly white city, but what about other parts of brazil?  Rio, sampa?  I'm just asking because I want a girl that looks like the ones in this video.

OMG! Never thought I would live to see this thing here...

Anyway, I googled it for you, just to confirm what I thought. Teló's DVD was recorded in 4 cities: Curitiba, São Paulo, Balneário Camburiú and Goiânia. The 10 seconds I was able to handle watching the video, I noticed the girls looked like they were from Goiânia or Belo Horizonte, so you have your answer.

You can find white girls in any city in Brazil, but it's easier in the South. Rio has some white girls, but most are morenas. São Paulo has a lot of white girls. Porto Alegre also has a lot of white girls but less than Curitiba or Florianópolis/Balneário Camburiú (both are in Santa Catarina), because of the heavy Guarani indians influence. The Gisele Bundchen lookalikes can be found mostly in the South countryside, in the German colonies.

I've heard from a lot of guys (Brazilians) that the most beautiful women in Brazil are from Goiânia and Ive never met a girl from there that wasn't pretty.

[bcc_1_2]

You want a white girl that speaks English because you don't know any Espanol. Hmmm well you live in one. I'm sure the younger women in many large FSU cities speak some English.

[V_Man]

G'Day Steve!
Great to see another man from down under here!

I have gone through all the same stuff and the same thoughts and goals as you are looking at. I understand what you are looking for and I have a pretty good idea why you are looking for it.
The only difference is that I did have basic Spanish before I started. Although it was very basic, I could introduce myself and count to 100. Which at least is something.

I have been to 4 countries in South America. I have been to Colombia more than once and I have a relationship with a Colombian lady. She is all the things you say you are looking for and more. So I want you to know that an Aussie can do this.

I have never been to Brazil. However all the women I have meet from Brazil were either gorgeous or at the worst, at least average. They are also educated, approachable and passionate. The country is absolutely fascinating.  If I were in your position and if I had no special desire to see all of South America, then I would seriously consider Brazil. In fact if I was still single and knew even a little Portuguese ....

That said there are some drawbacks with Brazil vs the rest of South America from an Aussie perspective. The main drawback is that realistically you are going to be forced to choose between Brazil versus the rest of South America. On top of the time and money issues you are facing, this is mostly because you are going to have to learn something in her language. Hence you are going to have to learn either a little Spanish  or a little Portuguese. You do not need to be profcient but it really isn't worth the effort if you don't learn the very basics.

There are fluent english speakers in every country there. I met a beautiful, single, slim, well groomed, educated, available, english speaking woman in Bolivia of all places. (Most women in Bolivia are not any of those things). However the chances of that happening are so remote it's not even worth contemplating. It is just not worth all the effort in any country when you are limited to women who can speak English well.

All that out the way, excluding Brazil, here is where you should look:
Bogota, Colombia.
Lima, Peru.
These two cities have lots of women who have everything you are looking for. Therefore you chances of finding one right for you are good.
Also they are the primary airports.

Santiago and Vina del Mar, Chile
almost any decent city in Argentina.
These two countries have everything you asked for. The thing is that the other things that make latin women so attractive are not as pronounced in these countries and the women are in no rush to relocate. You will feel like you are in a latin version of an Australian city. Whereas in the other countries you will know you are in a whole other world.

Then there are many cities in Colombia, parts of Ecuador, and about 1000 other places with even hotter and friendlier women provided you drop some of your criteria and learn the language.

Here is what I did.
1. I learnt basic spanish first. Spanish is the easiest langauge for an English speaker to learn. If it is possible for you to learn another language it will be Spanish. The only hard part about Spanish is the grammar. But you can learn 500 words of Spanish in 3 months without learning much grammar. Also there are Spanish night classes in every Australian city.
2. Money. You need some.
3. After I meet some Colombian women here in Australia, I limited my search to Colombia. 
4. I went online and had so many women contact me is was a real struggle to keep up. I narrowed them down to the 3 largest cities. Bogota, Medellin and Cali. There thousands of attractive, well educated women, who have the drive to do well in Australia and are willing to relocate in all three cities. Several women from smaller cities were very willing to come and meet me in one of these largest cities as well.
If you don't speak Spanish at all you could use an agency. I have never used one. My plan C was to go to Consuelo's agency in Bogota but I never did.
In the begining I talked to a few women in Lima, Peru as well. I have since been to Lima. There are definately the type of women you are looking for in that city.
5. Get on a plane. Before I went, things did not go according to my expectations or according to the best advice I had, but I got on a plane anyway and took a chance. No matter what you do or how you do it, where you go or how little you can communicate, nothing really matters unless you get on a plane within 6 months of starting your search. Just go. You are guaranteed to meet attractive women and she may just be 'the one'. You will learn so much it is not funny. I never heard someone say they regret their first trip. Just go.

There is lots more I could tell you. Just ask.

All the best mate!
Vman.

[benjio]

Brazil?  He said he doesn't speak spanish, didn't mention that he didn't speak portuguese!  Lol, jk!  Good info, I gotta get my butt down to brazil sometime soon. 


Quick question, are there plenty of very white brasileiras in rio?  I've read that porto alegre is predominantly white city, but what about other parts of brazil?  Rio, sampa?  I'm just asking because I want a girl that looks like the ones in this video.

There's too many women with any one particular "look" to say that one or the other is more prominent in Rio. Although a good majority of the girls in Sao Paulo have lighter skin and eyes, you can find everything in Rio from blonde, white girls with blue eyes to morenas with dark brown eyes. I've actually made the mistake of assuming a Brasilera was American because she was white, tall, had blonde hair with green eyes, and was wearing a Miami University T-Shirt. But after I tried to strike up a conversation with her I discovered she didn't know a word of English. Still turned out to be a very nice girl though.    You can find a lot of girls with features that we would usually describe as Latina (shorter stature, curvy, straight black hair, darker eyes, cream colored skin) from girls that have obvious physical characteristics of some of the indigenous tribes. Those women are much more common in the north but there's a little of every part of Brazil in Rio. There's a lot of girls with very dark skin, almost like chocolate, that have European Facial features. Pointy, triangular noses, thin lips, hazel or greenish eyes, and this beautiful, long curly hair like nothing I've ever seen. These are my favorites. In my opinion they are the most beautiful and exotic looking, but to each his own. Whatever your type is, your cup will overflow with possibilities if you ever have the chance to visit Rio de Janeiro. The only thing every girl there seems to have in common is an absolutely gorgeous dairy aire. 

[Jeff S]

No kidding? Brazilianas with a great dairy aire? Whoda thunk...

[benjio]

No kidding? Brazilianas with a great dairy aire? Whoda thunk...

I know, right!! Suprisingly it's a pretty common thing in that neck of the woods.

[Calipro]

I know, right!! Suprisingly it's a pretty common thing in that neck of the woods.

Sounds good..... but how easy is it to meet women in public compared to Colombia?

[htown]

There's too many women with any one particular "look" to say that one or the other is more prominent in Rio. Although a good majority of the girls in Sao Paulo have lighter skin and eyes, you can find everything in Rio from blonde, white girls with blue eyes to morenas with dark brown eyes. I've actually made the mistake of assuming a Brasilera was American because she was white, tall, had blonde hair with green eyes, and was wearing a Miami University T-Shirt. But after I tried to strike up a conversation with her I discovered she didn't know a word of English. Still turned out to be a very nice girl though.    You can find a lot of girls with features that we would usually describe as Latina (shorter stature, curvy, straight black hair, darker eyes, cream colored skin) from girls that have obvious physical characteristics of some of the indigenous tribes. Those women are much more common in the north but there's a little of every part of Brazil in Rio. There's a lot of girls with very dark skin, almost like chocolate, that have European Facial features. Pointy, triangular noses, thin lips, hazel or greenish eyes, and this beautiful, long curly hair like nothing I've ever seen. These are my favorites. In my opinion they are the most beautiful and exotic looking, but to each his own. Whatever your type is, your cup will overflow with possibilities if you ever have the chance to visit Rio de Janeiro. The only thing every girl there seems to have in common is an absolutely gorgeous dairy aire. 

Holy crap benjio you're freaking killing me!  I may just have to skip Colombia all together and just go straight to Brasil.

Sounds good..... but how easy is it to meet women in public compared to Colombia?

I've never been to either country but I've read that the Brasileiras are very approachable and fun-loving. 

[benjio]

Sounds good..... but how easy is it to meet women in public compared to Colombia?

Cali, the only thing that probably gives me an upperhand in Colombia when approaching a girl I don't know in public is the fact that she will probably be interested, whether or not that interest is romantic, simply because I'm a gringo. The average girl in Rio couldn't give a [snip] less. There's too many gringos and European guys walking around there already. And this is the land of tall, slendor beach body guys; not short, booze breathe Colombianos. As a matter of fact, being a gringo can work against you, because many Brasileras will automatically assume you're there to monger, and obviously won't want to be associated with you in any way because of what people may think. When you're there enough and they realize you might as well be a local, the floodgates of opportunity open wide.

[benjio]

Holy crap benjio you're freaking killing me!  I may just have to skip Colombia all together and just go straight to Brasil.



I've never been to either country but I've read that the Brasileiras are very approachable and fun-loving.

Indeed they are!!! Like I said, out of all the girls in Brazil I've had the audacity to approach, I've never gotten attitude or bitchiness. Definitely gotten more "no's" and "I have a boyfriend" than anything else but always with a nice smile and a "thank you" for the compliment. I even walked up to a girl on the beach one day while her boyfriend was buying beer. She was very nice, and he wasn't mad at all. He told me, "I don't blame you...she's gorgeous." (he was from Spain though...hehe).

Come on down HTown. I will most likely be another U.S. Expat living in Rio de Janeiro in the very near future.