American Women are crazy and the men are wimps

[rscott4]

Greetings all,
 Planning a trip in one year to Barranquilla, Colombia through International Introductions as my choice. I tend to research things to death and find this agency well represented. I have been single for 20 years dating throughout with very limited success in the Pittsburgh area. I am 50. I have a youthful toned ( in shape) look both body and mind and have no trouble getting dates with lovely local women from low 30's to my age. I treat them with respect, honor and patience without allowing myself to regress to the sometimes typical wimpy, what ever you want dear kind of guy. I thought there may be something wrong with me and my " leader in a relationship" hero nature without the "Bad Boy" aspect overload that seems to attract so many of the crazies here.
 It actually is the society we live in here and not me, And it is about time I realized this. I'm a good honorable guy! I wonder if the women of South America will pic up on my nature and respect, recognize that some still fall into the true traditional roles of the honorable man with a caring nurturing woman?   
 oh and of course I'm studying Spanish through the Fluenz program.
 
 Scott
 
 

[Ray]

 
Welcome aboard wimp!
 
 
 
 
 

[InnocentVixen]

I think colombianas will eat you alive but you might like it 

[Bob_S]

I think colombianas will eat you alive but you might like it 

I was thinking the same thing.  Even at its worst, short of getting killed that is, it will still be a grand adventure and a valuable learning experience.  So, welcome and enjoy the ride.

[Researcher]

     Welcome to the board!


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[Jeff S]

Hi rscott and welcome.

I'm a good honorable guy! I wonder if the women of South America will pic up on my nature and respect, recognize that some still fall into the true traditional roles of the honorable man with a caring nurturing woman?

Some will, most won't, especially not in Colombia. A guy with your self-described personality would do much better in Asia IMO.


In any event, spending a few hours reading through the archives. It'll be time well spent,


- Jeff

[rscott4]

Thanks all for the varity of comment. A bit of my original post was meant "tongue in cheek"
Fun group!

[aconcepts]

Hey Scott,


Read my crap on wimps and american women. Can't stand either of them...


Ha! it look as if many here are now as cynical as me...


I can't wait to get some R&R in Colombia...


So are you a wife hunter or a life hunter?


However, be forewarned... I am moooderated

[rscott4]

I think colombianas will eat you alive but you might like it 

Well hi Innocentvixon, thanks for your input. hmmm, must say I'd look forward to a challenge but not from a 20 something girl; I am more attracted to a woman;  in the range of mid 30's early 40's; one that really understands the ups and downs of life. I live in a University town loaded with girls in their 20's and enjoy their game play but at the end of the night I decide whether it goes any further or not.... usually not anymore.  I'm also realistic. And maybe I should have posted a more serious introduction post and maybe I may even become "that" old weird cat guy neighbor" someday but not without a fight! ; ) for life is too very short.

[rscott4]

Hey Scott,
Read my crap on wimps and american women. Can't stand either of them...
So are you a wife hunter or a life hunter?

Hey aconcepts, I am a life companion hunter!
My observations: America has a lazy weight problem! 40 yrs old and on guys and many earlier I think now feel that a large beer gut is a right of passage! and the women, wow, talk about some beach balls. I know that isn't everything but.... that is just the tip of the iceburg. The few women left in their mid 30's 40's that have a bit of looks, well rare!.. A huge percentage of American women are sellfish, flighty to the extreme, insecure, needy and border line psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase. I am talking to the choir so to speak, I know. Wow, now I may sound like a bitter person, I am a realist/optimist, hey truth hurts. I am not perfect by no margin but I do care about how I present myself to another!  This is all just my little opinion and observations through life...
The heart, soul, and personality are very important but we are all men and women a visual species at first. How can the rest follow if the outward vessel screams " I don't care about myself"

[Zon]

QUOTE = "Hey Scott, Read my crap on wimps and american women. Can't stand either of them... Ha! it look as if many here are now as cynical as me... I can't wait to get some R&R in Colombia...  So are you a wife hunter or a life hunter?  However, be forewarned... I am moooderated"

HAHA  +1

[aconcepts]

Ok life companion hunter. Have you considered getting a dog?
 
Ererere
 
So what does that mean, you want milk without buying the cow (like her grandma said to me)?
 
All kidding aside… I agree with you about US feminazi… Just watch US TV and you get the big picture.
 
“The heart, soul, and personality are very important but we are all men and women a visual species at first. How can the rest follow if the outward vessel screams " I don't care about myself" ------ Nice
 
Astute...
 
 
Look I just ran into a 37 year old actress who does not paint her nails and has 2 kids and a big house. The point is she "seems" wise. The crow’s feet were actually attractive to me because of what she finds important. She also drives fast. You can tell a lot by how someone drives...
 
Now I am not looking for anything in anyone's eyes... but if it comes along... who am I to say no>>>>

[raycjs]

welcome to the board, i met my present girl through there service and we have been together 3 years and going strong...
 
best of luck to you
 
Ray

[rscott4]

Thanks Ray, inspiring comment! And thanks all for all comments. I hope this thread though dies a short quick death.

I started it with a bit of cynical flair of course but I really need to get down to business. I have many trip reports to read about and learn more about the other great info this board holds and the guys that finally took this as a great life challenge and left our little neck of the woods to get their feet wet in a greater world waiting to be discovered.

I haven't traveled far beyond the US and Canada and it is time for a change. I do plan on an early retirement, a couple years out, and maybe buy a nice well maintained live aboard sailboat and sail the Caribbean to start. Always dreamed of that and now financially it may become reality. Either I'll find a lovely mate to prepare with and accompany me in time or I will happen into her out there somewhere when I'm too old to care.....nah ; )
See you in the other more relevant threads. 
Scott

[SkyNorth]

Scott...wrote "I live in a University town loaded with girls in their 20's and enjoy their game play but at the end of the night I decide whether it goes any further or not" - It sounds to me that Scott has "game" or "talent" with the ladies.
 
? Why do some of you think he is gonna get "eaten alive" or "played" in Colombia. On the surface it seems like Scott is ready for these ladies. OR is eaten alive and played good things and I am missing a nuiance ?
 
Scott had mentioned he like 30-40's women and not girls.  (that is my prefered as well). HOWEVER, I have read on here in several places that 25-30, 31, 32 Y O Colombian ladies were a lot more able to fit into American life.  And the older the ladies get the more rigid they are, to the point of being unrealistic about what their new life can be without effort (learning english, driving, etc.).

[V_Man]

Scott had mentioned he like 30-40's women and not girls.  (that is my prefered as well). HOWEVER, I have read on here in several places that 25-30, 31, 32 Y O Colombian ladies were a lot more able to fit into American life.  And the older the ladies get the more rigid they are, to the point of being unrealistic about what their new life can be without effort (learning english, driving, etc.).

I'm not sure that is true. Obviously many people find it harder to learn new things as they get older. So that is true. However if you are in your 30s living in Colombia then you've probably discovered that not much worth having comes without a lot of hard work.
The bit about being more rigid could well be true. Hopefully a 22 year old is not fixed in her ways, whereas a 42 year old is bound to have some clear ideas about certain things. Then again a 22 year old is bound to change her priorities and not always in a good way. A 42 old probably already has a longer tem view and goals.

Hence I think her age is a mixed bag in this respect. It could help her or it could make it harder. It could firm her resolve or the opposite. It's a tough one but perhaps her age isn't the best indicator about how she will adapt.

I think you need to throw a few new situations at her and observe how she reacts. Does she fall to pieces when she is in a new situation and things don't go according to plan? How does she cope? How much effort does she exert to change her circumstances? How patient is she? Does she blame you? That is probably a more acurate test than her age.

My 2c.

[aconcepts]

"Hence I think her age is a mixed bag in this respect. It could help her or it could make it harder. It could firm her resolve or the opposite. It's a tough one but perhaps her age isn't the best indicator about how she will adapt.I think you need to throw a few new situations at her and observe how she reacts. Does she fall to pieces when she is in a new situation and things don't go according to plan? How does she cope? How much effort does she exert to change her circumstances? How patient is she? Does she blame you? That is probably a more acurate test than her age."


This is great advice. This can be applied to anyone at anytime not just women. If i was to choose a battle team, I would want to know these things.




I don't have preferences.


Why? They are limiting. Sure I have favorites but I don't let them limit me.


I am dating a 37 year old actress. Sheez she is sexy. Saw her perform yesterday (get your minds out of the gutter). She can't understand why I have not made a move on her. jajajaja. I am enjoying her company right now the way it is and am not quite sure i want to throw sex into the mix just yet. I also have to admit I can count the times on one hand I have had sex with a woman in her thirties. Like not being attracted to JLO  style butts, I wish this would change. Maybe it is finally.


It almost feels like friends... you know she offers to pick up some tabs and such, but I know better. Still, as VM says she has got her ideas and she has it dicked, firing on all 8 cylinders. Not sure I want to impose my vision on her.


Lets see if she get curious about how we fit into each others lives. She may just want to use me for sex... I would choose other playmates if sex was the only criterion. So, you see I have no preference for sex as the only criterion just as I have no preference for good company as well.


Lets see what comes along. What we have to work with. Aware, accept then identify. Self adjust and then adapt. That is the Art of Transformation.

[Bob_S]

Scott...wrote "I live in a University town loaded with girls in their 20's and enjoy their game play but at the end of the night I decide whether it goes any further or not" - It sounds to me that Scott has "game" or "talent" with the ladies.
? Why do some of you think he is gonna get "eaten alive" or "played" in Colombia. On the surface it seems like Scott is ready for these ladies. OR is eaten alive and played good things and I am missing a nuance ?

Scott comes across like a decent guy who knows how to treat a lady like a lady, endearingly old fashioned at heart, and confident in his game, but his game is minor league.  A proverbial big fish in a little pond.  He admits himself he hasn't traveled much outside the states.  His experience with the ladies outside our borders is limited.  So he's a college ball player about to be thrown into the international majors.  If he's not careful, his (over) confidence will be his undoing.  At first.  He's going to have to unlearn everything he thinks he knows, and step up his game.  After that, we'll see.  If he can learn and adapt, even if he gets taken and burned a few times, he'll be spoiled by what the world has to offer beyond the horizon and won't look twice at those college town girls again.

[aconcepts]

Bingo!

[rscott4]

Keen insight Bob ,aconcepts, all.
I humbly can say that I do have confidence with cautious reservation. Approaching the 50 mark but not without 20 years single. I've dated the gambit and have given most the benefit of the moment and I'm certainly not perfect. The 20's college crowd even as of late welcome my conversation/company. Dated dozens, 30's 40's, a 54 yr old, pretty faces all, intelligent carried themselves well. Almost married one. They all had something in common underneath though... "God couldn't have met their expectations in what they thought they deserved, variations, career girls wanted to lead. I'll flex some, but wow. They cared about their looks therefore stood out from the crowd here and they knew it.
They are out there in the global market as well. My point, I recognize and observe; Body language can speak volumes!! if one knows how to read it well, a better read than lack of common language.  And this board is a valuable resource of info.
  There is no balance here in relationships anymore. If they would allow/recognize us to be men that naturally lead we would lay out a golden path for them to follow beside. Yea, I'm a romantic out of step with our times. The good women here, precious minority....
I'm enlightened to thinking out of the box-and smart enough not to know everything and just bold enough to jump in!    hmmm, cool, I just made that up. rhetorical nonsense ; )
Aconcepts, my worst fear....... living a passionless life.

 
 

[rscott4]

V_Man, The concepts you mention,  I will certainly make a note of such questions and mild trials or tasks to observe her reactions.  Good info. Especially when one may have limited time in travel for now.

[aconcepts]

"God couldn't have met their expectations in what they thought they deserved, variations, career girls wanted to lead. I'll flex some, but wow.


Hey I think you will do fine here in LA. Just try to get your Spanish down. Remember you are looking for something different here, so do not treat them as if they are the same as in the US.


Americans come down here and fall all over themselves. Please don't be one of them. Actually, you should stay away from Costa Rica because the chicks here in San Jose already know they can treat the Americans as suckers.. In CR the country girls are a newbies best bet.


Unless you are like me and speak Spanish and know the culture; when I approach the women here and speak with them, they say eres Tico! You are Costa Rican! yeah they know they cannot sucker me cause I am well laid and know what the locals expect and they know what the locals expect. One of my ex-girlfriends used to take a bus ride almost 2 hours each way to see me. You need to harden yourself to fit in. That means you have to be in command. Ticos don't fall over themselves over women - and you should not as well. Don't be a rich beggar.

[rscott4]

"A rich Beggar"  . Understand that. Bet they can pick up on that type a mile away. Golden path, wrong choice for a word. Maybe open path. Anyway, I'm not a rich man just modestly manage my finances well.  And I am making more time for studying latin American Spanish, accents also.

[V_Man]

God couldn't have met their expectations in what they thought they deserved...

There is no balance here in relationships anymore.

In other words, western women have priced themselves out of the market. The cost to benefit ratio is so wildly out of balance that it's worth men going to the other side of the planet for something better.

I think that also western women have been brainwashed to think that the things a man brings to the relationship are of little value. This lack of concious valuing of the man's contribution inevitably creates a conflict with the woman's more primal needs and desires. The end result is that underneath it all they are unhappy.

A survey was released recently that showed that after decades of feminsim, women are now significantly less happy. Men are about the same. No one wanted to talk about the elephant in the room this result created.

http://youtu.be/dEfxn912acE

At the end of the report the commentators claim to be surprised and baffled. However it is not the least surprising unless you are viewing the world through feminist glasses.

Feminism has not only priced western women out of the market, it's left them unhappy and lacking the ability to resolve that unhappiness. If you marry one, that underlying unhappiness is going to get projected onto you. I guarantee it.

[Researcher]

     That's right Vman, Western women are unhappy and it is all the men's fault.....hehehe!

      Researcher