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i might be destined for Latin America
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:48:48 PM »
Let me first introduce myself.  My name is Carson.  When I was I a teenage boy, I remember watching Miss Universe with my parents and my aunts and uncles.  We all would pick a certain country to be the winner.   I always managed to pick a Latin country and I usually won most of the time.  :)  I also recall telling my mother that I would marry a Latina one day when I grow up.   I've dated my fair share of girls here in the good ol US of A..everything from all american white girls to Latinas of different varieties.  It wasn't until college that I realized I had a strong attraction for Asian girls as well.  (I'm Asian btw)  So I spent most of my college years dating Asian girls.  After college, I went back to dating whoever I was attracted to.  The last seriously girl I dated in Oklahoma was 19 years old.  She was mixed Asian and Caucasian but I broke up with her before I moved to Texas.  I've lived in Oklahoma nearly all my life and so there wasn't much beyond Asians and white girls to date.   Fast forward to 29 years old and I make a career move down to Dallas, Texas.  Little did I know this was the real Mexico. And immediately, I make my strides and end up dating many Mexican girls and Salvdorean girls.  I had 2 relationships while living here.  None of them worked out for one reason or another.  But the biggest thing I've noticed is that I'm attracted to younger girls, preferably below the age of 27.  However, girls here in the states..the trend is one extreme or the other....either get prego at 16 or delay everything until early to mid 30s because of career or just picky.  The relationships I had in Texas with the Latinas were aged 24 and 26 and there was definitely a genuine connection but these girls were not ready to settle down for anything serious.  I'm at the point in my life (Okay I was ready 2 years ago) where I want to be married and have children after 1.5 to 2 years of marriage.  I want my wife to be young enough and have energy to help me raise my family.  I feel like it's my destiny to marry a girl of Latin roots.  And I wouldn't have given it more serious thought until I stumbled upon a site called "Latin-Wife.com"   The site was well read and lots of information of which I found too good to be true and the owner (jamie) linked me to this site here.   So I guess I'm here to get everything I need to know before making any committment in either booking a plane ticket or purchasing services from his agency or another one. 
 
Apologize for the long intro but wanted everyone to get a feel of where I'm coming from.  I'm a fairly attractive guy who comes from a good family and we are pretty successful in life in career and family.  They would kill me if I made a poor decision.  I know my parents are already upset about this subject and like everyone...they and all my relatives and friends are against it.  All I know is what I'm doing here in the states is not working for me, I don't wanna date forever nor settle for anything less than the whole package.
 
Cliffs Notes:   I'm Carson and I'm looking for the safest and most efficient method for meeting and marrying my future Latin wife and I don't wanna get mugged or die doing so.... :)
 
P.S.  I look 22-25 years old max.  Does this improve my chances of making a genuine connection?
 
 
I have mixed feelings about the site.  Initially I was excited to have found this resource with an abundance of information but the more I read, the more a sense of real danger has surfaced.
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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 09:37:51 AM »
Well, I do have a couple pointers for you.


1. Learn Spanish
2. Learn Spanish
3. Find a CULTURE that you are comfortable with, you are marrying into her culture, period.
4. Learn Spanish
5. Colombia is not the only country SOTB.
6. Consider Portugese?
7. You have a year on me. If anything, your relative youth hurts you more than helps you. Women have a more difficult time taking a guy our age seriously for long term. I think you'll have better luck next year when you reach that magic "30."
8. Find a CULTURE that you are comfortable with, you are marrying into her culture, period.
9. You want younger? No problem, what is your optimal age range? You are at an age that everything legal and younger than you is still game and well within the confines of "normal."
10. Think really hard about what are your must haves, nice to haves, and must not haves for a future mate.
11. Did I mention cultural adaption and the need for language skills?
12. This is the most important part: Have fun and actually get on that plane. You won't regret it.


If you go the Agency route in Colombia. Jamie's agency is by far the most loved. If you do go with Jamie's agency, listen to his advice. He is on your side and will warn you when you are about to do something really stupid, even if he knows you wont listen.


I'm not sure how being Asian is going to affect your chances with the Latinas, Jamie will know. He won't sugar coat it either.
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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 10:42:47 AM »
Hi woody,

I'm actually 32 years at this moment and will be closer to 33 by the time I book any trip.

I have a decent understanding of spanish.  It's enough to conversate and express myself.  Ahora mismo.. yo puedo hablar en espanol pero mi espanol no es tan bueno pero yo creo que algun dia voy a estar bueno.  Con tiempo...


Being Asian, I'm somewhat well received with the Latinas here in the states but my experience does not include Colombianas...

Are there countries sotb that have better wife candidates?

I'm looking for beauty, kind hearted, trust worthy...same things most guys want.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 06:13:24 PM by Carson007 »

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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 11:18:46 AM »
Hi woody,

I'm actually 32 years at this moment and will be closer to 33 by the time I book any trip.

I have a decent understanding of spanish.  It's enough to conversation and express myself.  Ahora mismo.. yo puedo hablar en espanol pero mi espanol no es tan bueno pero yo creo que algun dia voy a estar bueno.  Con tiempo...


Being Asian, I'm somewhat well received with the Latinas here in the states but my experience does not include Colombianas...

Are there countries sotb that have better wife candidates?

I'm looking for beauty, kind hearted, trust worthy...same things most it's want.

I would search outside of Colombia. Colombianas for some reason, are NOT attracted to Asian Men. I'm not at all trying to discourage you. This is just a generalization I'm making from my own experience there. If you do go to Colombia Jamie (owner of Latin-Wife) is definitely your best bet; but I think even he will tell you the same thing.
 
I would try Peru, Honduras or Brazil. Brazil especially has a infinite number of gorgeous, intelligent, marriage minded women. It's just extremely expensive to travel and stay there.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 12:52:06 PM »
Benjio,

What's your ethnic background and what specific experiences can you tell me about?  I'm all ears.  Thanks.

Brazil sounds nice but I don't speak any Portuguese....

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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 01:29:40 PM »
Are there countries sotb that have better wife candidates?

I'm looking for beauty, kind hearted, trust worthy...same things most it's want.


Better is subjective. Colombia may be the best place for 50% of the guys going SOTB to look, but it is the wrong place for the other 50% (I'm making up numbers here). Each country will have different cultural norms and you may find that some countries are a better match than others. Honestly, this is something you are just going to have to try on for size. You will probably crash and burn on your first trip, but it will be one of the most memorable trips of your life.


Well, finding a beautiful and kindhearted Colombiana is easy. Along with that you generally get cognitive dissonance, compulsive lying, extreme jealousy, and a US 8th Grade equivalent education. Now trust, that is an entirely different issue. I "trust" my Colombian ex, but I know that she would not hesitate to lie directly to my face if she thought I couldn't catch her and it wasn't really important. That is certainly not the kind of trust that most guys are looking for(nor me). Colombianas lie to avoid confrontation. If there is a way to twist logic in some convoluted way to support their lie, they will do that as the explanation. "Oh no, Papi! I didn't lie when I said I would do XYZ, I was going to do it at the time. I just changed my mind later!"


So, what you are probably more looking for is someone intelligent, beautiful, caring, someone that wants to be the woman and let you be the man, non-deceptive, and not a jealous person.......good luck! Whitey found one, a few other guys did as well. Don't get me wrong, Colombia is definitely FUN and you wont regret going. Just, don't get your hopes up for a quick process.


I can't really provide any suggestions as to where to go if you want a Latina. I'm doing a bit of Soul Searching myself. I've been around a bit and am evaluating Brazil as a potential place to go. Well, I am going to Brazil, there are a few things there on my bucket list. Its just that I am not so much actively wife hunting anymore as exploring countries and cultures to find a good fit for me.

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 01:55:20 PM »
Woody,

I appreciate your candid honesty.  You pretty much summed up what I want.   Willin to put up with a little immaturity provided she doesn't have baggage like children or divorced or a hatred for men. 

I met a Peruvian online and we were really both into each other but I messed it up.  It was my fault.  She wanted me to meet her folks and said she was for real but I didn't follow through. 

Ideally, I would like to link up with other guys on here and if possible coordinate some time to travel in numbers.

I wish I had unlimited time but I'm working and PTO is not as generous as I need to explore all the countries.  I'm leaning towards a focused and efficient effort.


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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 03:46:28 PM »
Hi, Carson.  Welcome to Planet-Love.

"Asian" is a VERY broad category in that almost half of the world's population lives in Asia.  Can you be more specific?

I have not seen many "Asians" in Colombia.  Now, Brazil is a different story. Brazil has the largest population of persons of Japanese descent living outside of Japan.  They are mostly in Sao Paulo.  If you didn't know,  Portugal used to have a colony in Asia called Macau.  It brought many Chinese from there to Brazil as indentured servants.  Consequently, there is a large population of Chinese descent persons in Brazil.   Portugal had other colonies in Asia that included parts of India and Indonesia but I have not met any persons of those nationalities in Brazil.

In my opinion, unless you are targeting women from elite families (top 10% in wealth), your race or ethnicity will not be a determining factor (or even an important factor) in finding a good woman in Brazil.  Brazilians come in all colors.  There are lots of inter-racial marriages among the non-wealthy.  It is worth a trip and worth learning Portuguese.

P.S.  I met here in the US (in a professional capacity) a stunningly attractive and sexy Brazilian woman of Japanese descent.  She explained that her father was Japanese and her mother was Brazilian.  She was born in Brazil and lived there in her early childhood, but grew up in Japan. 

P.P.S.  In Brazil, I spoke with a stunningly attractive and sexy Brazilian woman of Chinese descent.  This was on a beach and it turned out she required 'gifts' to spend time with her.  In the brief time I spoke with her, she said she was a fourth generation Chinese, didn't speak any mandarin or other Chinese language, did not know any Chinese history, nor was she interested in any of the above.  Her answers may have been different if I had had any 'gifts' for her.

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Re: i might be destined for Latin America
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 04:20:09 PM »
Benjio,

What's your ethnic background and what specific experiences can you tell me about?  I'm all ears.  Thanks.

Brazil sounds nice but I don't speak any Portuguese....

I'm Black American, which definitely has its limitations in Colombia as well. A lot of women absolutely refuse to date a man with dark skin. For some of them this is a preference dealing with their partner's physical characteristics...which I don't mind at all. Some guys like blondes, some guys like burnettes. We all have a favorite flavor. What has always bothered me is how other Colombianas that aren't at all concerned with what a potential partner looks like have a lot of misconceptions about American Black Men that simply aren't true. But I digress..
 
I took my first trip to Colombia in 2008 to wife hunt, and have probably returned two dozen times during the last four years for either work, studying, dating or vacation. I have been to every major city except Medellin, and many smaller cities and pueblos. Seeing a person with Nordic features (blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, etc.) in Colombia is extremely rare. Seeing someone that's Asian is even rarer. During my first trip to Jamie's one of the girls I dated told me that an Asian Man had requested to meet her. She actually told me as a joke, but I didn't think it was funny. When I asked her what happened she said she told the agency, "NO!..not interested!" I won't write what she told me when I asked her why not because it was pure ignorance...a bunch of stereotypical racial comments that proved to me she had never actually met anyone Asian. This was not an isolated incident but I'm sure you get the point.
 
Unfortunately, for the less fortunate that can't afford to travel outside of Latin America, the only perspective they have for what people in other countries are actually like is built primarily from the entertainment industry. This is not me complaining or playing the racial card, but in a lot of movies black men are portrayed as criminals, evil doers, generally unpleasant people. At many levels black men in the entertainment industry do this to themselves as well. 50 Cent's first major label album cover was a picture of him pointing a gun towards the camera wearing a bullet proof vest. This is what a leads a lot of uneducated Colombian Women to think so negatively of Black Men from the United States. On the other hand, in many of the same movies, whether they are action films, romantic comedies, etc. there is a white man playing the hero or the hopeless romantic that will do absolutely anything to win the heart of the impossible female antagonist. So uneducated, isolated Latin American women that don't know better assume that white men are automatically the most attractive choice when it comes to finding a life partner.
 
Ask yourself how the average Asian Man is portrayed by Hollywood, and you'll have an idea of how Colombianas perceive them as human beings. Now think of every single stereotype there is for people of Asian decent, and you'll have an idea of all the false preconceptions a Colombiana may have about you by simply looking at your picture. It's a sad case of ignorance from a lack of exposure.
 
If you have been as successful as you described dating women in the states, I'm assuming you're a pretty good looking guy. I'm absolutely sure you would meet someone if you decided to go with Colombia. But I can almost guarantee you that your choices will be significantly reduced because of your race. IMHO, Brazilians are much more tolerant of racial differences. There's also a substantial population of Asians in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. If you already know some Spanish, Portuguese is negotiable; but another advantage of dating in Brazil is a lot more people being able to speak English. Especially young, single, well educated women.

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 04:59:00 PM »

I'm Black American, which definitely has its limitations in Colombia as well. A lot of women absolutely refuse to date a man with dark skin. For some of them this is a preference dealing with their partner's physical characteristics...which I don't mind at all. Some guys like blondes, some guys like burnettes. We all have a favorite flavor. What has always bothered me is how other Colombianas that aren't at all concerned with what a potential partner looks like have a lot of misconceptions about American Black Men that simply aren't true. But I digress..
 
I took my first trip to Colombia in 2008 to wife hunt, and have probably returned two dozen times during the last four years for either work, studying, dating or vacation. I have been to every major city except Medellin, and many smaller cities and pueblos. Seeing a person with Nordic features (blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, etc.) in Colombia is extremely rare. Seeing someone that's Asian is even rarer. During my first trip to Jamie's one of the girls I dated told me that an Asian Man had requested to meet her. She actually told me as a joke, but I didn't think it was funny. When I asked her what happened she said she told the agency, "NO!..not interested!" I won't write what she told me when I asked her why not because it was pure ignorance...a bunch of stereotypical racial comments that proved to me she had never actually met anyone Asian. This was not an isolated incident but I'm sure you get the point.
 
Unfortunately, for the less fortunate that can't afford to travel outside of Latin America, the only perspective they have for what people in other countries are actually like is built primarily from the entertainment industry. This is not me complaining or playing the racial card, but in a lot of movies black men are portrayed as criminals, evil doers, generally unpleasant people. At many levels black men in the entertainment industry do this to themselves as well. 50 Cent's first major label album cover was a picture of him pointing a gun towards the camera wearing a bullet proof vest. This is what a leads a lot of uneducated Colombian Women to think so negatively of Black Men from the United States. On the other hand, in many of the same movies, whether they are action films, romantic comedies, etc. there is a white man playing the hero or the hopeless romantic that will do absolutely anything to win the heart of the impossible female antagonist. So uneducated, isolated Latin American women that don't know better assume that white men are automatically the most attractive choice when it comes to finding a life partner.
 
Ask yourself how the average Asian Man is portrayed by Hollywood, and you'll have an idea of how Colombianas perceive them as human beings. Now think of every single stereotype there is for people of Asian decent, and you'll have an idea of all the false preconceptions a Colombiana may have about you by simply looking at your picture. It's a sad case of ignorance from a lack of exposure.
 
If you have been as successful as you described dating women in the states, I'm assuming you're a pretty good looking guy. I'm absolutely sure you would meet someone if you decided to go with Colombia. But I can almost guarantee you that your choices will be significantly reduced because of your race. IMHO, Brazilians are much more tolerant of racial differences. There's also a substantial population of Asians in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. If you already know some Spanish, Portuguese is negotiable; but another advantage of dating in Brazil is a lot more people being able to speak English. Especially young, single, well educated women.
Benjio's commentary seems very accurate with what I've seen and heard in Colombia...

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 06:16:26 PM »

I'm Black American, which definitely has its limitations in Colombia as well. A lot of women absolutely refuse to date a man with dark skin. For some of them this is a preference dealing with their partner's physical characteristics...which I don't mind at all. Some guys like blondes, some guys like burnettes. We all have a favorite flavor. What has always bothered me is how other Colombianas that aren't at all concerned with what a potential partner looks like have a lot of misconceptions about American Black Men that simply aren't true. But I digress..
 
I took my first trip to Colombia in 2008 to wife hunt, and have probably returned two dozen times during the last four years for either work, studying, dating or vacation. I have been to every major city except Medellin, and many smaller cities and pueblos. Seeing a person with Nordic features (blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, etc.) in Colombia is extremely rare. Seeing someone that's Asian is even rarer. During my first trip to Jamie's one of the girls I dated told me that an Asian Man had requested to meet her. She actually told me as a joke, but I didn't think it was funny. When I asked her what happened she said she told the agency, "NO!..not interested!" I won't write what she told me when I asked her why not because it was pure ignorance...a bunch of stereotypical racial comments that proved to me she had never actually met anyone Asian. This was not an isolated incident but I'm sure you get the point.
 
Unfortunately, for the less fortunate that can't afford to travel outside of Latin America, the only perspective they have for what people in other countries are actually like is built primarily from the entertainment industry. This is not me complaining or playing the racial card, but in a lot of movies black men are portrayed as criminals, evil doers, generally unpleasant people. At many levels black men in the entertainment industry do this to themselves as well. 50 Cent's first major label album cover was a picture of him pointing a gun towards the camera wearing a bullet proof vest. This is what a leads a lot of uneducated Colombian Women to think so negatively of Black Men from the United States. On the other hand, in many of the same movies, whether they are action films, romantic comedies, etc. there is a white man playing the hero or the hopeless romantic that will do absolutely anything to win the heart of the impossible female antagonist. So uneducated, isolated Latin American women that don't know better assume that white men are automatically the most attractive choice when it comes to finding a life partner.
 
Ask yourself how the average Asian Man is portrayed by Hollywood, and you'll have an idea of how Colombianas perceive them as human beings. Now think of every single stereotype there is for people of Asian decent, and you'll have an idea of all the false preconceptions a Colombiana may have about you by simply looking at your picture. It's a sad case of ignorance from a lack of exposure.
 
If you have been as successful as you described dating women in the states, I'm assuming you're a pretty good looking guy. I'm absolutely sure you would meet someone if you decided to go with Colombia. But I can almost guarantee you that your choices will be significantly reduced because of your race. IMHO, Brazilians are much more tolerant of racial differences. There's also a substantial population of Asians in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. If you already know some Spanish, Portuguese is negotiable; but another advantage of dating in Brazil is a lot more people being able to speak English. Especially young, single, well educated women.


I might have written something like this 10 years ago.....not so sure I would have gone to this extreme to try and rationalize colombian behavior though.


Ten years ago I got involved with a Colombian marriage agency in Cali and played with the idea of getting into the business myself. Met hundreds of women in the process. Looked at their profiles and actually paid quite a bit of attention to what the said they wanted in a man. So when black guys asked me what I thought their chances where with Calenas I told them I thought their chances might be better on the coast where the women are even darker than Cali.


Most Calenas had a stated preference for white guys or latinos.....only ever met one Calena ever that had a stated preference of only wanting to date a black guy. Then as time went on I noticed many, many Calenas that said that they only wanted to meet guys in their 30's or younger hooking up with guys in their 40's and 50's. Saw a couple of good looking black guys hook up with absolutely stunning Calenas.


I don't really know what a black man's personal experience would be in other cities in Colombia but I have seen first hand that they can do well.....very well in Cali.
Cali has a much larger black population than any other city it's size or larger......I personally have come to believe that Calenos attitudes towards Blacks is much more socio-economic driven than actually racism because a lot of chicks in Cali have black in them...even if they don't like to admit it.


My advice to black guys coming to Cali is....dress to kill and don't be cheap when you take a chick out and you'll be pleasantly surprised at what you end up with.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 06:29:41 PM »
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Asian" is a VERY broad category in that almost half of the world's population lives in Asia.  Can you be more specific?

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Yes, I'm Vietnamese and Chinese.  But mostly Vietnamese.  Glad you are willing to differentiate.  Most people don't have a clue beyond Chinese and Japanese.
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I have not seen many "Asians" in Colombia.  Now, Brazil is a different story. Brazil has the largest population of persons of Japanese descent living outside of Japan.  They are mostly in Sao Paulo.  If you didn't know,  Portugal used to have a colony in Asia called Macau.  It brought many Chinese from there to Brazil as indentured servants.  Consequently, there is a large population of Chinese descent persons in Brazil.   Portugal had other colonies in Asia that included parts of India and Indonesia but I have not met any persons of those nationalities in Brazil.
Sao Paulo sounds enticing and I'd even be interested in going there to visit the training center of my favorite mixed martial artist (ufc fighter Lyoto Machida - his dad is Japanese and his mom is a Brasilena).  In all honesty though, if I go SOTB, I'd like to focus my efforts on Latinas.  If I were going to look for an Asian girl, I think I would want to head to Asia....but you never know.  I could be proven wrong if I visit Brazil.
 
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In my opinion, unless you are targeting women from elite families (top 10% in wealth), your race or ethnicity will not be a determining factor (or even an important factor) in finding a good woman in Brazil.  Brazilians come in all colors.  There are lots of inter-racial marriages among the non-wealthy.  It is worth a trip and worth learning Portuguese.

That makes sense and is consistent with what people often say about Brazil being a melting pot.  It's just that I feel pretty comfortable with my Spanish to conversate with Spanish speaking women that learning Portugese would mean starting over...  I will consider it but if I can equally find a beautiful and gorgeous gal with a kind heart in Peru or Honduras, why not go there?
 
 
 
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P.S.  I met here in the US (in a professional capacity) a stunningly attractive and sexy Brazilian woman of Japanese descent.  She explained that her father was Japanese and her mother was Brazilian.  She was born in Brazil and lived there in her early childhood, but grew up in Japan. 

P.P.S.  In Brazil, I spoke with a stunningly attractive and sexy Brazilian woman of Chinese descent.  This was on a beach and it turned out she required 'gifts' to spend time with her.  In the brief time I spoke with her, she said she was a fourth generation Chinese, didn't speak any mandarin or other Chinese language, did not know any Chinese history, nor was she interested in any of the above.  Her answers may have been different if I had had any 'gifts' for her.

first girl sounds like the same result of my favorite fighter's dad..haha I guess the Japanese dudes really like them Brazilians :)

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 06:41:16 PM »
If you're doing well dating chicks in Texas why even mess around with South America? If I were you and I was convinced that I had to go abroad, I would try the Philippines - a kind of combination of Asian and Latin.   

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I'm Black American, which definitely has its limitations in Colombia as well. A lot of women absolutely refuse to date a man with dark skin. For some of them this is a preference dealing with their partner's physical characteristics...which I don't mind at all. Some guys like blondes, some guys like burnettes. We all have a favorite flavor. What has always bothered me is how other Colombianas that aren't at all concerned with what a potential partner looks like have a lot of misconceptions about American Black Men that simply aren't true. But I digress..


The same could be said with some of the girls back here in the states.  All but one of  my ex girlfriends (white/asian/latina) have specifically said they would never date a "black" guy or a "moreno" as they often referred and I asked them why...and they really never gave me a solid enough of an answer that would make any sense.  However one of them has dated a few black guys.  It's really all a matter of preference like you said.  And to tell you the truth, I would say 70% of the non Asian girls that I have dated said I was their first "Asian."  I prefer to date those types anyhow so there are no expectations and if there are preconceived stereotypes ...then they would be found true or untrue in getting to know me. :)
 
I will also add there are white girls and Latinas that only hunt "black" guys.  I always knew those clubs to avoid lol..I mean why not put myself in a place where I have high chances of success.. it goes both ways.   
I've lived by the philosophy that attractive is attractive and I believe in it 90% of the way...A girl may not be attracted to whatever race, but if there are certain features that hit her attraction triggers..then all goes out the window.  "I never would have thought I would have the hots for an Asian!" -sexy gal at my work (kicker is she is 25 yo divorced with 3 kids)    The same could be said for any race.....  I never followed through in pursuing a "real" relationship with that gal..but I did turn her on to Asians and she is currently chasing that dream of hers hahah
 
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I took my first trip to Colombia in 2008 to wife hunt, and have probably returned two dozen times during the last four years for either work, studying, dating or vacation. I have been to every major city except Medellin, and many smaller cities and pueblos. Seeing a person with Nordic features (blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, etc.) in Colombia is extremely rare. Seeing someone that's Asian is even rarer. During my first trip to Jamie's one of the girls I dated told me that an Asian Man had requested to meet her. She actually told me as a joke, but I didn't think it was funny. When I asked her what happened she said she told the agency, "NO!..not interested!" I won't write what she told me when I asked her why not because it was pure ignorance...a bunch of stereotypical racial comments that proved to me she had never actually met anyone Asian. This was not an isolated incident but I'm sure you get the point.


You see..I kind of ..for whatever weird reason..see that as a competitive advantage.  I always feel that way when I walk into a strictly Latin club where I am one of the few minorities there.   I'm usually the only Asian and there is always a token white or black guy (which makes me feel better lol)  And of course I have met some girls who wouldn't give me the time of day...but there are girls within my own race that does the same.   Those stereotypical comments have also been said by girls that have never dated asians here in states....you're gonna find ignorant people everywhere.
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Unfortunately, for the less fortunate that can't afford to travel outside of Latin America, the only perspective they have for what people in other countries are actually like is built primarily from the entertainment industry. This is not me complaining or playing the racial card, but in a lot of movies black men are portrayed as criminals, evil doers, generally unpleasant people. At many levels black men in the entertainment industry do this to themselves as well. 50 Cent's first major label album cover was a picture of him pointing a gun towards the camera wearing a bullet proof vest. This is what a leads a lot of uneducated Colombian Women to think so negatively of Black Men from the United States. On the other hand, in many of the same movies, whether they are action films, romantic comedies, etc. there is a white man playing the hero or the hopeless romantic that will do absolutely anything to win the heart of the impossible female antagonist. So uneducated, isolated Latin American women that don't know better assume that white men are automatically the most attractive choice when it comes to finding a life partner.

What you're commentating on is pretty much apparent in the U.S. as well...but know what..it's gotten a lot better.  That's also another reason I prefer younger women.  They seem to be more open minded and less affected by older media influences.  I'm sure they've also seen their share of Will Smith (Independence Day) and Denzel Washington flicks...like I said..there are girls that go cra-cra over the chocolate boys hahaha.  One of my friends is black and he knows what's up.  Some girls just like it and some girls not so much.   The ones that seem the most resistant to dating outside their race/nationality are Vietnamese and Indian (the ones with the dot)...from my experience of course.

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Ask yourself how the average Asian Man is portrayed by Hollywood, and you'll have an idea of how Colombianas perceive them as human beings. Now think of every single stereotype there is for people of Asian decent, and you'll have an idea of all the false preconceptions a Colombiana may have about you by simply looking at your picture. It's a sad case of ignorance from a lack of exposure.


In the 60s/70s/80s/90s...I agree the influence was something to be said...but nowadays..it's getting better through music and movies, etc...  We've got male sex role models now.  In the past, we could kick ass on screen and in careers/education/success in the real world... but on screen, we couldn't get no ass.  We kicked ass but got no ass.  Damn caucasian directors lol i.e. Jackie freakin Chan kicked ass, saved the girl, but didn't do anything with her hahahahah
Nowadays, I feel that Asians are a force to be reckoned with not only in education and socioeconomic competition, but we are breaking in Hollywood and professional sports as well. 
If you have been as successful as you described dating women in the states, I'm assuming you're a pretty good looking guy. I'm absolutely sure you would meet someone if you decided to go with Colombia. But I can almost guarantee you that your choices will be significantly reduced because of your race. IMHO, Brazilians are much more tolerant of racial differences. There's also a substantial population of Asians in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. If you already know some Spanish, Portuguese is negotiable; but another advantage of dating in Brazil is a lot more people being able to speak English. Especially young, single, well educated women.

I'm a decent looking guy.  I represent myself that way and walk that way....but in the end, it's all preference and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  I think everyone's choices are limited to a certain pool of people that are attracted to them, regardless of race.  You think white guys can attract everyone? lol  There are latinas that don't like them.  There are asian girls that don't like them.  And I'm sure there are black girls that wouldn't prefer them.  I just say rock whatever flavor you are and use it as a competitive advantage.  If I was black, I would use the power of my sexual chocolate hahaha.....but I'm not, so I'm gonna be the Asian sensation.
 
The only reason I am focusing on Colombia is because Jamie's website is all about it and I'm looking to meet a large amount of truly marriage minded folks under one roof.  I don't want to date someone casually.  I can do that here in Texas any weekend.  I'm looking to make that real genuine and sustaining connection...with passion of course.  Is there a solution to it SOTB?  Are there agencies in Brazil?   My worst nightmare is I get introduced to a prostitute that didn't get filtered out by any agency! lol
 
Btw, how old are you, Benjio?
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My advice to black guys coming to Cali is....dress to kill and don't be cheap when you take a chick out and you'll be pleasantly surprised at what you end up with.

I heard on Jamie's website - FAQ section (latin-wife.com) ...that he suggested to keep the dates simple...even if it's cheap by American standards...it may be considered a luxury to Colombianas and that we don't want to set the precedent and expectations for a certain lifestyle...and that we want to see if we could actually be truly compatible beyond things that are fun by default.   If we could have a good time doing mundane/routine things, then we have a good shot at compatiblity for the long run.    Do you disagree with those suggestions from your experience?   TIA

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 07:12:24 PM »
If you're doing well dating chicks in Texas why even mess around with South America? If I were you and I was convinced that I had to go abroad, I would try the Philippines - a kind of combination of Asian and Latin.

Because I feel that almost all these girls are not ready for marriage  until way later in life.  And as young as I look and feel, I'm not wanting to be an "older" father.  I want to be young for my future children.  Also, as I get older, I'm noticing it's a little more difficult to date younger.  A lot of girls stopped seeing me after the 2nd or 3rd date because of my age.  they are 21-24.   The ones that want me to be their boyfriend...they are not ready for marriage nor do I think they are capable of being a good mother to my children.  They're more focused on chasing their careers and money.   Jamie's website led me to believe that Colombian women value the family over career and $$.  Maybe there's more to it..and that's why I am here guys...
Also, I want to minimize the chance of divorce as much as possible.  It seems as if Asians have the lowest rate of divorce.  And my mexican coworker (who married an Asian girl) also told me that Mexican girls are very feminine and let men be the men and that they are very family oriented.  I also am largely attracted to Latin girls.  I like the food, the music, and have a basic understanding of the language.  And they are different from me..which makes it a little more fun.    People also say that you could date even better by leaving the USA...that youcould date girls that would't give you the time of day in the US..but abroad is a diff story...so why not shoot for the stars?
 
My goal is to find the right girl (not an old one, divorced, children)...marry her...enjoy our time together for a year or two (traveling the world)..and then build that family I've wanted....
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 08:02:17 PM »
Sao Paulo sounds enticing and I'd even be interested in going there to visit the training center of my favorite mixed martial artist (ufc fighter Lyoto Machida - his dad is Japanese and his mom is a Brasilena).

Carson, Lyoto is from Belém, and trains here most of the time. I used to train in the Machida's gym and he a friend of mine is related to him, so I bump into him quite frequently. I think he is a very handsome men and most of the girls here have the same opinion (So, nothing against Asians around here ;)). The Gracie family is from around here as well, but now they live in Rio.

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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 08:12:19 PM »
CaliPro,

With my very limited experience with dating in Cali, I would MOST DEFINITELY have to agree with you!!!

Carson, I am 31.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 08:26:21 PM »
Carson, Lyoto is from Belém, and trains here most of the time. I used to train in the Machida's gym and he a friend of mine is related to him, so I bump into him quite frequently. I think he is a very handsome men and most of the girls here have the same opinion (So, nothing against Asians around here ;) ). The Gracie family is from around here as well, but now they live in Rio.

You're, right, Braziliangirl!  :)   It slipped my mind that he hails from Belem.   That's so cool that you know him through a degree of separation...  So do you recommend I visit Brazil as well?  How safe is it compared to Baranquilla, Colombia?   It would be so cool to train BJJ with the Gracies and attend a karate class at the Machida training facility....haha but my first goal is to meet the special girl first.   8)

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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 09:07:44 PM »

I also am largely attracted to Latin girls.  I like the food, the music, and have a basic understanding of the language.  And they are different from me..which makes it a little more fun.    People also say that you could date even better by leaving the USA...that youcould date girls that would't give you the time of day in the US..but abroad is a diff story...so why not shoot for the stars?



Well, that pretty much describes me when I first started going to Colombia.  Welcome to the board, Carson.


I found an amazing woman there, other guys on the board are very happy as well.  I'll repeat my mantra:  if you're looking to minimize the risk of interesadas, mentiras, flojas, prepagos, etc. ... date women who have already DEMONSTRATED that they are capable of achieving goals and don't have the need/time for games ... someone who is at least 25, has pursued some kind of education after high school, and is working.  You can find gold outside of that criteria (guys here have), but you'll have to do a lot more filtering and that requires either luck or experience.


My goal is to find the right girl (not an old one, divorced, children)...marry her...enjoy our time together for a year or two (traveling the world)..and then build that family I've wanted....


You will be pleasantly surprised in Latin America.  At your age, there should be no problem finding young, attractive, single, childless women who would be interested in you ... you're not in Kansas anymore.

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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 09:12:08 PM »

So do you recommend I visit Brazil as well?  How safe is it compared to Baranquilla, Colombia?   


Can't wait to hear what Braziliangirl has to say about Barranquilla ... haha.  I hope you can meet Nazly and I there for New Years.  ;)  The first ridiculously large cup of Juan Valdez is on me BG, then ice cream at Crepes y Wafles ...
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 10:26:37 PM »
Jamie's website led me to believe that Colombian women value the family over career and $$.  Maybe there's more to it..and that's why I am here guys...

You're going to be very disappointed with Colombia and I say that as someone who speaks fluent Spanish (my wife doesn't speak English), has been to Colombia numerous times and has been married to a Colombiana for almost 10 years.

Almost no one who asks for advice is actually receptive to it when they get it and I imagine that you'll have to experience the disappointment first hand before you know what I'm talking about.

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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 10:35:23 PM »

Can't wait to hear what Braziliangirl has to say about Barranquilla ... haha.  I hope you can meet Nazly and I there for New Years.  ;)  The first ridiculously large cup of Juan Valdez is on me BG, then ice cream at Crepes y Wafles ...
whitey, you look so happy in your avatar.  I want to be like you.  haha  Can you post the full size photo of you and your wifey? 
 
I assume Nazly is your wife and not some dude?  Where is your wife from btw?
 

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 10:39:33 PM »
You're going to be very disappointed with Colombia and I say that as someone who speaks fluent Spanish (my wife doesn't speak English), has been to Colombia numerous times and has been married to a Colombiana for almost 10 years.

Almost no one who asks for advice is actually receptive to it when they get it and I imagine that you'll have to experience the disappointment first hand before you know what I'm talking about.
I'm receptive but I don't take every word for gospel.  That's the living part I guess that we all as humans do...  Are you not happy with your Colombian wife?  Please tell me about your experience. 
And can you specifically tell me why I wouldn't like Colombia?

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Well, that pretty much describes me when I first started going to Colombia.  Welcome to the board, Carson.


I found an amazing woman there, other guys on the board are very happy as well.  I'll repeat my mantra:  if you're looking to minimize the risk of interesadas, mentiras, flojas, prepagos, etc. ... date women who have already DEMONSTRATED that they are capable of achieving goals and don't have the need/time for games ... someone who is at least 25, has pursued some kind of education after high school, and is working.  You can find gold outside of that criteria (guys here have), but you'll have to do a lot more filtering and that requires either luck or experience.



You will be pleasantly surprised in Latin America.  At your age, there should be no problem finding young, attractive, single, childless women who would be interested in you ... you're not in Kansas anymore.

Whitey, I'm taking your advice to heart (25+).  That was my original  goal.  But it changed after I called Jamie from the agency and he recommended I go with 18-22.  I asked him "why?" and he responded with "less baggage and they are more moldable and not set in their ways..."  something to that extent....
 
Can you give me a realistic expectation of how long and how much work it might take to find success like you had?   I'm honestly not looking forward to making a bunch of trips.  I want to be effective and focused and achieve success in a minimal amount of time.   Perhaps 2 to 3 trips max. 
 
Is this planned goal realistic?
1)  get on plane and meet a girl through agency....lock in on one by the end of the trip and focus efforts on her
 
2) return home and continue this relationship via phone/skype/email everyday for a few months
 
3) return to colombia to meet her parents and family and if all is well...make the proposal
 
4)  go home and prepare the paperwork
 
5) come back for my girl and fly back together with her
 
Am I just dreaming? :)

 

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