Whatever happend to Dennis Levy?

[dennislevy]

I brought  up your allegation of last summer because its a recurring pattern of what you do

YOU did it with my ex novia who is now my wife
YOU did it with Micky s standard of living in Medellin and his relationship with his son
YOU did it with BtB s intentions and how he chooses to do his process of coming to Colombia 

And for the record, you NEVER responded to  requests to PROVE or give ANY evidence, ANY evidence at all  to back up YOUR allegations that Begin the Beguine was a phoney or an imposter or that he had used multiple identites.

The allegations were initially made by YOU....

And YOU NEVER backed any of it up.....

No surprise there!

And its good to be back on P L!

[Dan]

I brought  up your allegation of last summer because its a recurring pattern of what you do

YOU did it with my ex novia who is now my wife
YOU did it with Micky s standard of living in Medellin and his relationship with his son
YOU did it with BtB s intentions and how he chooses to do his process of coming to Colombia 

And for the record, you NEVER responded to  requests to PROVE or give ANY evidence, ANY evidence at all  to back up YOUR allegations that Begin the Beguine was a phoney or an imposter or that he had used multiple identites.

The allegations were initially made by YOU....

And YOU NEVER backed any of it up.....

No surprise there!

And its good to be back on P L!

DL,

Have you ever considered the option of just NOT responding to the provocations?!?

What would happen if you simply ignored the allegations and went on with posting useful information?

The questions are really rhetorical (you knew that). Offered for you, and others, to consider as a means to break out of this lunacy that some here seem to want to wallow in.

- Dan

[Fuzzyone]

I brought  up your allegation of last summer because its a recurring pattern of what you do

YOU did it with my ex novia who is now my wife
YOU did it with Micky s standard of living in Medellin and his relationship with his son
YOU did it with BtB s intentions and how he chooses to do his process of coming to Colombia 

And for the record, you NEVER responded to  requests to PROVE or give ANY evidence, ANY evidence at all  to back up YOUR allegations that Begin the Beguine was a phoney or an imposter or that he had used multiple identites.

The allegations were initially made by YOU....

And YOU NEVER backed any of it up.....

No surprise there!

And its good to be back on P L!

  Dennis


    Once again no one here brought up this incident from last summer in fact I do not think anyone here thought to ask you if this woman you married was the same one mentioned from last summer. You have to admit you went out with a lot of different woman in Colombia. You brought this up about your new wife, no me, not F.T., not anyone here am I right? Once again as you claimed BtB was the one that had to throw the dig in at the end of his post announcing you had just got married. Once again congratulations on getting married but please do not be your own worst enemy and then get mad at us. If all you intended to do was come back here to do battle after getting married then I feel sorry for you.

[dennislevy]

Dan

Fair enough, I wont respond to the provocations anymore from that particular poster.

And I am not mad at anyone.

I didn t come back to do battle, as a matter of fact,  as you well know, I had not expected to come back, because I couldn t post.....

I had simply sent a message through another poster that I had gotten married. I wanted to let board members know that I had accomplished a goal. 

The poster put a sly dig in the post , and I think it was HIS way of expressing that HE was unhappy with the leeway that seems to be permitted for some posters.   

Sincerely
Dennis

[Dan]

Dan

Fair enough, I wont respond to the provocations anymore from that particular poster.

And I am not mad at anyone.

But  I guess my question is and always has been.....

Why do you as the board owner and chief adminstrator allow a pattern of provocations that are negative, belligerent and accusatory from two or three specifc posters?

I didn t come back to do battle, as a matter of fact,  as you well know, I had not expected to come back, because I couldn t post.....

I had simply sent a message through another poster that I had gotten married. I wanted to let board members know that I had accomplished a goal. 

The poster put a sly dig in the post , and I think it was HIS way of expressing that HE was unhappy with the leeway that seems to be permitted for some posters.   

Sincerely
Dennis

>>Why do you as the board owner and chief adminstrator allow a pattern of provocations that are negative, belligerent and accusatory from two or three specifc posters?<<

We've been down this road before.

It is folly for anyone to expect that the PL Staff is going to 'rescue' them from their own participation on the site. While true that we occasionally step in and we encourage people to use the Report to moderator function, the vast majority of these petty squabbles would evaporate with more mature participation on the part of the members.

My STRONG preference is for PL to be entirely self-moderating (as is our sister site RWD, for the most part), and actions from the responsible members resolve most issues. For that to become a reality at PL, the populace needs to behave far more maturely.

- Dan
 

[dennislevy]

I do think that when certain posters go over the line of respect for other members  repeatedly...it s hard for P- L to be a self policing forum. 

But I understand your POV

And..... I will keep my promise....

I will not respond to provocations from those specific posters.

IF I am provoked,  I will ignore them or choose to respond creatively...but NO ONE  (especially board administration) WILL construe them as agressive or argumentative responses.

OK?

 

[Dan]

I do think that when certain posters go over the line of respect for other members  repeatedly...it s hard for P- L to be a self policing forum. 

But I understand your POV

And..... I will keep my promise....

I will not respond to provocations from those specific posters.

IF I am provoked,  I will ignore them or choose to respond creatively...but NO ONE  (especially board administration) WILL construe them as agressive or argumentative responses.

OK?

OK.

And FTR, DL, you are far (VERY far) from the only one who these posts about ignoring provocations are directed towards. Candidly, it gets damn difficult to sort out who is the provocateur from some of the flames that go on around here. Fewer people responding 'in kind' will allow us to sort things out more clearly.

- Dan

[robert angel]

The so called "signal to noise" ratio had gotten so out of whack on this thread, that I tried not to tune in much. But it has seemed to dominate the whole site as of late, making me wonder where the heck the monitors were....

[Fuzzyone]

The so called "signal to noise" ratio had gotten so out of whack on this thread, that I tried not to tune in much. But it has seemed to dominate the whole site as of late, making me wonder where the heck the monitors were....

   It really is only one thread not the entire site but maybe I missed something. The monitors are around ,this area really has not had one heck of a lot of action lately.

[robert angel]

   It really is only one thread not the entire site but maybe I missed something. The monitors are around ,this area really has not had one heck of a lot of action lately.

You've got a good point there, Fuzzy. I wonder why it's been that way?

[Fuzzyone]

You've got a good point there, Fuzzy. I wonder why it's been that way?

  I don't know Robert there really has been no flames over in the latin area for some time.... maybe after someone disappeared but then I wonder why is it when the flaming starts here you show up from the asian side?

[fathertime]

  I don't know Robert there really has been no flames over in the latin area for some time.... maybe after someone disappeared but then I wonder why is it when the flaming starts here you show up from the asian side?

Hey Fuzzy!


It really doesn’t bother me If robertangle has been sitting there for days angry about this thread…he usually likes to interlope towards the end of a dying latin side disagreement thread and try to stir up animosity while breathing new life into a topic that has run its course.
 
Good for dennislevy he is married, in due time he will know he made an error regarding btb, if he doesn’t already know it. 
 At this time, I’m pleased with the outcomes of this thread and don’t really see a point to comment further, since there are other threads that shouldn't get starved. 


Fathertime! 

[JaxPaul24]

 First off.... congrats DL! I have only been around this forum for about a year and 1/2 but I have always appreciated what you brought to the board. So Felicidades!
 
As for the "Good OL' Boys Club" ...my goodness can you get off each other's nut sack already??? Same 4 or 5 dudes always piggy backing off each other's nuts! Why do you guys think you can accuse people of not being who they really are and then you expect them to prove you wrong? That isn't how it works..... if you want to accuse then put up or shut up! That's how it works! It don't work on your intuition or gut feeling!
 
The moderators are being accused of showing favoritism to a select group (Good OL Boy's Club) which I have seen firsthand and sure enough it happens in this thread.  Instead of the MOD telling these guys to either prove it or shut it, he instead tells DL to just walk away....don't engage...don't respond.  Are you kidding me? Then you all wonder why people haven't been around this forum lately. They're getting tired of all the crap! I don't envy your position MODS and I'm sure you get tired of babysitting but c'mon now.... these same dudes show up in every thread like gangbusters!
 
If you want ban me for speaking the truth so be it because according to Fuzzy and the piggy back crew, I have multiple accounts anyways that I can always use to log back in.  LMAO!  Another thing Fuzz..... I wasn't going to respond back to you in that last thread but I see your doing the same thing to someone else in this thread so now I will.  I don't need to prove anything to you.  Like I told you before.....if you think I am someone else then prove it! If not...then shut it!  I'm not providing you with addresses and names of restaurants and whatever other BS you need in my trip reports.  If you don't believe what I am saying in my trip reports and you don't believe who I say I am and you can't prove otherwise.....then don't read my [snip]!  Seems to me that you have a habit of accusing people of being someone they are not. I guess because you have a million posts behind your name your allowed to accuse and call out others based on what?? Oh wait.....let me guess...  your guys intuition???  Yea ok... 
 
JaxPaul Out....

[Ray]

As for the "Good OL' Boys Club" ...my goodness can you get off each other's nut sack already??? Same 4 or 5 dudes always piggy backing off each other's nuts!

 
Why are you so obsessed with other guys' nuts?   
 
 
 

[dennislevy]

In an effort to change the tenor of this thread...
 
l am going to post some feelings or information about why I chose to marry in Colombia and specifically to a mature Colombiana who is 55 years old, what others might call a catana or a vieja...
 
But I think she is a spectacular woman and frankly that is all that matters.
 
First of all, I ll be 59 in less then three weeks. And I have had a life in South America that I could never have dreamed of living in the United States.
 
In a bit more then 4 years I met something like 245 women one on one....many for coffee (JUST COFFEE!!!!, lunches and dinners. The women  were from Colombia, one Venezuelana who lived in Cucuta in Norte del Santander, a few women in Peru and and two women  who lived in Bogota, but who were natives from Trinidad and Russia
 
I started with agencies in Bogota, met some women through personal introductions and a couple on the fly, in public.............and finally used the Colombian and Latin American Cupid sites. I got to the point that I could chat and flirt in Spanish with a woman on line, qualify her and after some hours of chatting, if there was mutual interest then I would get on a bus or fly to meet her in her city or town.
 
I spent 7 months in Colombia traveling, meeting women and having multiple and short relationships, almost all of which lasted less then two weeks.  When I liked someone and thought about settling in that city, they got nervous, or when they liked me, their profile and expectations were not quite what I hoped for.
 
My inital profile of who I sought was a mature woman late 30s to early 50s, intelligent, a wonderful conversationalist, able to clearly communicate her goals  and with a great sense of humor, well educated with a good job or her own business, from a stable family, emotionally stable with a minimum or no emotional damage from her past, estrato 4 and up, with no children or with grown up children that were nearly or out of the house and with good personalities, and their own goals. She did not have to speak English....but she had to be a companion. She had to be someone who I enjoyed being with in a variety of circumstances.
 
Last night, my wife and[size=78%] I folded laundry together, prepared a tuna salad together, went for a walk after dinner and drank tintos at a local bakery. [/size]
 
Nothing flashy but a perfect evening.
 
Those characteristics are very different then what the vast majority of foreign men initially seek....even if they are serious wife hunters. There are of course exceptions, but i think rthat most men place a priortiy on considerably younger and obviously beautiful Colombian women with spectacular figures, (whether natural or frequently with cosmetic surgery.
 
I think its different for a gringo who chooses to live here, IN COUNTRY and tres to fit in a family and participate in the culture.  Many men say they think that are many STABLE, COMMITTED couples here with huge age differences between them. I don t agree with that observation, I ve been through a lot Colombia and while its not isolated, I don t think it is all that common. 
 
My wife is the oldest woman I ve ever dated in Colombia, but emotionally I fit with her far better then with any other colombiana.  We are three and a half years apart and enjoy immensely talking and laughing with each other. 
 
And I think emotional chemistry is crucial, I think that there has to be a meshing of emotions and personalities, especially if the native languages are different. 
 
I could have made committments earlier in my sojourn here, but with few exceptions I never felt strongly enough aobut the woman or felt that her family situation was sufficiently stable. 
 
I will admit that I had lots of relationships outside this profile, with women from all over Colombia. Women with young kids, women from poorer estratos, a few women in their early 30s who were younger then my range. And like almost all men I enjoyed the variety and making love to different women. But also all of the experiences were ways to submerge (jejeje) myself in Colombian culture, to practice my Spanish and to confirm who I DIDN T want.
 
In April 2010, on Colombian Cupid I met the woman who is my wife.  She had never married, without children, a morena with an incredible smile. She had worked and livied with her parents her entire life as has one unmarried sister.  And all of the kids six in total, pay almost everything to maintain their aged parents.....
 
Our first chat was for two hours and as I recall we talked about fashion and our preferences in food. In succeeding chats, she impressed me as one of the VERY FEW  women I had talked with in Colombia who could articulate exactly what she wanted...and she was willing to work at a relationship to make it happen.
 
This is a stark contrast to many colombianas who let the guy think he is the leader, and don t or can t clearly communicate what they want.
 
Six weeks after that inital chat...and after chatting practically very day,  I went to Medlelin, rented a nice Poblado high rise apartment from a former gringo agency client and friend. And she and I spent a week together. On the second night I went out to dinner in Las Palmas with her, her two brothers and sisters in laws and the brothers picked up the check. On the third night she presented me to her parents in her home. A very SERIOUS woman
 
I came back to Medellin in June for another week and moved from Bogota to Medellin in mid July, 2010 and rented a small furnished apartment studio in Veledromo, far away from Poblado and Parque Lleras but 10 minutes walking from her family s home.
 
We saw each every day for a month,  spent 3 or four nights a week together and then in mid August, I panicked. Things were moving quickly and while I said it was what I had wanted, i had been married to two American women before and was not sure that I could do marriage again. That summer of 2010 was the fourth anniversary of a very brief marriage I had had in the US, and I had painful memories.
 
I just wasnt ready.
 
And I broke up with my novia. She was hurt, devestated because she loved me and I was the ONLY man she had ever loved.....
 
We had a hard time and then we started to communicate again. I started traveling, but she NEVER let me go. She never asked me who are you with?  She always told me she hoped that I was safe and happy and that she prayed every day that I was safe.
 
When I was in Ecuador and Peru, i realized how much I missed her. She is one of very few women in my life who when I was with them, I wanted to talk to them every day, and when I didnt talk to them, I felt as if i had a hole in my side.   And over the months that we were apart, I grew to love her as much as she had always loved me.
 
She is the ONLY woman in Colombia that I ve completely trusted. At times, she has had my passport and up to 10,000,000 pesos in cash, there has never been as much as a 50 peso coin missing.
 
From the summer of 2010 until April 9, when we married in Medellin, it took almost two years.
 
I will always be grateful to her that she somehow knew (as she told me frequently) that I would come back to her ...I often tease her that she is a bruja because she has such profound intuition and she knew me, so well.
 
I suppose I was fortunate in that I got to sample (jejeje) the extraordinary variety of Colombian women...for such a long time!!!! 
 
But I am much more fortunate because I married a wonderful woman who makes me happy and who I want to make happy.         
         
   

[dennislevy]

Oh, by the way, I am NOT JaxPaul24!!!!!!!!
 
Easy enough for the moderators to check.....jejejeje!

[Fuzzyone]

Oh, by the way, I am NOT JaxPaul24!!!!!!!!
 
Easy enough for the moderators to check.....jejejeje!

   Dennis I would hope or should I say pray you are not JaxPaul I could not handle two guys here talking about my nuts!

[dennislevy]

I agree,

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RICIDULO

a hablar

de

sus

TESTICULOS
 
 

[whitey]

She sounds like a great woman Dennis, and you're lucky she stuck with you until you were ready.  Felicitaciones nuevamente ...

[dennislevy]

Thank you. DW! My very best to you and Nazly!