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[fathertime]

Researcher,
 
Good points and excellent post. I give FT a hard time every now and then because I don't think he gives his wife enough credit for being a rare find. All in good fun. He has finally started referring to himself as "lucky," which is how I'd describe any man that's found a good foreign woman they are truly compatible with over the long haul...Filipina, Latina..whichever! Let's face it...when most guys post bad experiences with Colombianas on PL FT's usually quick to follow up with a, "I've never really had that problem with my wife" statement. And I don't doubt it for a second. There are some great gals in Colombia. I would not still be wife hunting there if I didn't believe that. I've even met a few...physically attractive, reasonably intelligent, not insanely jealous, emotionally stable, truthful, not a single mom, has a family that won't start beating your door down for help an hour after the wedding, and even if they do she understands you're not rich and can't save the world. Oh wait a minute...that's my check list isn't it? Well perhaps I am a little too picky. But I honestly believe what I'm looking for is out there and there's no reason in hell to settle for less than that...especially at only 31 years of age. Like you said, I started a relatively young man, so I can take my time. Unfortunately one thing lots of "time" in Colombia gives you is a realistic look at what life and culture truly is there. More often than not, it ain't pretty.
 
 

well benjio...i've always thought I was lucky that my wife and i found each other....but I don't think it HAS to take dumb luck for the typical man to also find a woman for himself in colombia....there are a lot of attractive available ladies once again FOR THE RIGHT MAN.  i pretty much always felt i was making a choice among  a lot of very good candidates...the main reason why other ladies were not selected was because I in marraige we are only allowed to proceed with one...it wasn't because the other ladies weren't also worthy!  of course there were also some duds along the way but that is par for the course. 


...regarding the statement about 'never having a problem with the wife' statement...that is not true as a blanket statement, I've had PLENTY of problems with the wife over the past almost 3 years together in the states, and visa versa...having problems/disagreements does not have to be a big deal always...i'm pleased to say that through these disagreements our relationship has improved to a very high point, so i find the disagreements to be a very useful thing. 


if you feel you have time to find the perfect lady for yourself then you may as well use it...

 
1. The potential success of your marriage to a Colombian woman is in direct proportion to the  amount f problems (family problems, emotional problems, etc) that you as the husband inherit. if the man doesnt inherit a lot of porblems and he is reasonably stable, the marriahe stands a good chance of working.
 

as usual dennislevy has foisted all the responsibility of a marriage onto the woman....The entire post is one thing or another the woman has to possess or not possess...nothing mentioned about the traits necessary from the man.I guess a lot of posters like to feel entirely at the mercy of their ladies...I'd rather think I have some control over how the relationship goes and bringing a reasonable amount of baggage into the marriage isn't nearly as important as how the two individuals handle it.


Fathertime! 

[utopiacowboy]

I've never understood the idea that it's very difficult to find a good wife in Colombia.

I met so many attractive relatively young widows in Medellin that I thought I could probably get married every week just from the pool of widows. However I am a guy who likes kids and that right there eliminates most guys who won't consider a woman with kids even if she's stunning and she had the misfortune of having her husband die.

Here's a news flash. Most marriageable women, here and in Colombia, get married. The idea that there is going to be a huge pool of unmarried women waiting for a gringo is absurd. The good ones get taken at a relatively young age. Thanks to the wonders of catch and release or early death, some of the good ones get recycled. Those are your best bets especially the widows.

[dennislevy]

I wrote...



If the man doesnt inherit a lot fo problems and if HE IS REASONABLY STABLE, the marriage stands a good chace of working. 


What part of that sentence was unclear???



 

[Ray]

Thanks to the wonders of catch and release or early death, some of the good ones get recycled.
 

 
"Catch and Release"?
 
 
I love it!  ROFLMGDAO!
 
 
 
Ray
 
 

[fathertime]

I wrote...



If the man doesnt inherit a lot fo problems and if HE IS REASONABLY STABLE, the marriage stands a good chace of working. 


What part of that sentence was unclear? ??

 Well ok dennislevy…you are the one with the experience dating the older Colombian ladies…if you say it only takes a man that is ‘reasonably stable’ to have a successful marriage with one, then I will defer to you on that one.  Based on my experience, I will say that in order to have a thriving marriage with a younger lady (In the states) I’ve come to find out there is quite a bit more involved than just being ‘reasonably stable’.    I suppose the degree of difficulty is greater, but we probably all gravitate to what we feel we can handle and reap the commensurate rewards.


Fathertime!   

[dennislevy]

Oh stop it!

You married a younger woman and you have a child together.

I did that 23 years ago and didnt want to do it again

Remember I m about 14 years older then you and we have different life priorities

Check back in 14 years and you can tell me all about commensurate rewards! 

[fathertime]

Oh stop it!

You married a younger woman and you have a child together.

I did that 23 years ago and didnt want to do it again

Remember I m about 14 years older then you and we have different life priorities

Check back in 14 years and you can tell me all about commensurate rewards!

Well dennislevy if you are 59 than we are actually 16 years apart in age…so does that mean I have to wait 16 years to talk about ‘commensurate rewards’?

 

My point was, since you were dating in a much different age bracket than me and based on what you have said, what is expected of you is apparently far different.  I think most younger Colombian ladies are going to want a man that is more than just ‘reasonably stable’  I am not nearly old enough to know with any certainty how I’ll be spending my golden years, but I am looking forward to reading about how your marriage progresses.  From what you have written it sounds like you should be fine as long as you can remain ‘reasonably stable’!   

Fathertime!  

[Kiltboy1]

Stay On Topic Boys
 
 Now Back to the Hookers
 
Just saw the pics of Ms Suarez . Looks like most other ladies of the night I have seen in Colombia over the years and while very hot, she is not worth $800. Colombian men can get a woman equal to her beauty for under $75. The SS Agent was not far off the budget. Now, not saying geeting with a lady of the night is for everyone, but again, it is legal in Colombia and thousands of the local men are partaking in it everyday.

[dennislevy]

I never said that it ONLY takes a man to be reasonably stable to have a marriage to a mature colombiana. 


Despite the 16 year old difference in our ages and the something like 28  year age difference of our wives, some of the same things are expected of both of us.


Among those are loyalty, respect  complete  fidelity and to financially support our wives. 

I am not expected to be a father..I m almost  59 and she is 55 and we re at different stages of our lives then you are.


You live in the US, so I assume your wife has to mostly or completely rely on you for emotional support because her family is in Colombia.

Here in Medellin,  I share my wife with her family; her parents, 3 brothers and two sisters, and nephews and nieces, all of who my new family and who I like.

And you should be fine as long as you can disagree with your wife in a respectful tone and make compromises......




 

[Researcher]

Researcher,
 
Good points and excellent post. I give FT a hard time every now and then because I don't think he gives his wife enough credit for being a rare find. All in good fun. He has finally started referring to himself as "lucky," which is how I'd describe any man that's found a good foreign woman they are truly compatible with over the long haul...Filipina, Latina..whichever! Let's face it...when most guys post bad experiences with Colombianas on PL FT's usually quick to follow up with a, "I've never really had that problem with my wife" statement. And I don't doubt it for a second. There are some great gals in Colombia. I would not still be wife hunting there if I didn't believe that. I've even met a few...physically attractive, reasonably intelligent, not insanely jealous, emotionally stable, truthful, not a single mom, has a family that won't start beating your door down for help an hour after the wedding, and even if they do she understands you're not rich and can't save the world. Oh wait a minute...that's my check list isn't it? Well perhaps I am a little too picky. But I honestly believe what I'm looking for is out there and there's no reason in hell to settle for less than that...especially at only 31 years of age. Like you said, I started a relatively young man, so I can take my time. Unfortunately one thing lots of "time" in Colombia gives you is a realistic look at what life and culture truly is there. More often than not, it ain't pretty.

 
   Luck does play a part in it for all of us, that is for sure. But we decide how big a part luck plays. It is a risk for sure but how much time we spend and how honest we are with ourselves determines how much of a risk we take. I have seen many guys who completely rolled the dice blindfolded. I think it is OK for a guy to do so if he is completely aware of the risk he is taking. There are some guys on this forum who have done so. I was picky myself and did not hesitate to dump a woman if things weren't right. When I met my wife I held her to a high standard that she met. So being picky pays off.

 

I will usually end most of my negative rants about Colombianas with some amendments that mention there are definitely plenty of exceptions. I sometimes get the impression that a lot of newbies come into this with the idea that all their hopes and dreams will come true in Colombia. Some balding, overweight, 50 year old insurance salesman that's never had much luck with women stateside is going to go to Colombia, marry a supermodel, bring her back here and live happily ever after. All this while he doesn't know Spanish, is far from rich and thinks everything on the internet is real. I have met several men like this in Colombia and they quickly realize it isn't that easy at all. You'd be surprised how many guys I meet that don't know PL exists. In actuality a man's experience can be worse with a Colombiana as supposed to the feminist, bad attitude having, biopolar behavior AW alternative that sent most of us searching SOTB in the first place. At least on this side of the border, most of us know where we stand.

       I agree with you. Some newbies I met had their head in the clouds. I think it is good to discuss the negative side but many seem to dwell on it. Before I started my search all I heard was how foreign women only wanted a free ticket to the US. It took living in another country to see this wasn't completely true and that foreign women were definitely an option. I ran across many gringos in Colombia looking for Miss Right and if they wanted advice I gave it. There were many guys who knew where they stood but took the risk anyway.
 

 

Think about it like this. I spend quite a bit of time working in various countries of South America. Most Latino guys love American Girls with blue eyes and blonde hair. They talk about them like they're some sort of mythical creature everyone has heard of but no one has ever seen in peson or captured. So when a lot of the single guys (some not so single  ) have the opportunity to spend significant time in the states for whatever reason, they say they're going to find a hot, California Blonde, marry her and live happily ever after. I give them the same type of advice. Just from the other side of the spectrum. Are there hot, gorgeous, blue eyed, blonde girls in the United States that are good women and would make great wives? I'm sure there are tons of them. Are they easy to find? Well, ummmmm. These guys have the same problem a lot of gringos do. Their impression of Caucasian American Women is that they all look like Paris Hilton with oversized breast implants and melt for Latin Guys. That's what they see on TV and in the movies. But we all know that's far from the truth.

 
       Sounds like the Mexican guys I knew. Many of them chased the women from the US that were there teaching English. Some of those guys told me they chased the AWs because they were easy and if they were to get married it would be to a Mexican woman.

 

The most significant difference between us and them is we can usually offer women in Latin America a better quality of life, in addition to being more faithful, stable and committed to a marriage than the average Latin American Man. I've said it before and I'll say it again. As painful as this statement is for some gringos to swallow, I think it is naive not recognize it's validity. If gringos were for the most part poor, and Colombianas were for the most part unattractive women, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. And that my good man, has nothing to do with love or compatibility.

     I agree with you about being able to offer them a better quality of life but that is a univeral thing. Many AWs look for the same thing just as women all over the world do. It takes alot more for AWs though. It still takes more than that to make it work, IMHO. People get used to a standard of living and you need something else to sustain when the honeymoon is over. While money, being attractive, etc... can bring two people together compatability and love gives a couple an edge over the long haul. It is foolish to think otherwise.

        Researcher

[Brazilophile]

I think men are not marrying because they perceive women as selfish. And many single men are not willing to trade their dignity for a wife.
 
What happened to the traditional feminine wife? The self-sacrificing woman I see here in Costa Rica. Yes I see them but they are all 40 and older. The twenty and thirty something year olds are basically lazy and selfish or dominant (generalizing).
 
So you can either cave to a lazy selfish or dominant woman or remain single.
 
What do women bring to the table? They used to bring emotional stability to the home. They used to bring consistency. You could always depend on Mom to be there for support. Both husband and child could depend on mom to be there and listen and help. Now if mom does not get her way she upsets the family balance until she gets what she wants (you guys know exactly what I am talking about). Some women even with hold sex as a tool of manipulation. Nothing honorable or dignified about that.
 
Now mom wants fulfillment outside the home (all puns intended). Mom wants to be a hunter and a gatherer/ Part Amazon and part Madonna. What happened to the Madonnas? Being a Madonna is not as important as it once was to women.
 
I am not going to marry an Amazon. A woman that hunts, that is out in the street performing traditionally masculine roles.
 
Marrying an Amazon does nothing but give them a ride. They get cheap housing, and all the other benefits that a male provider provides and then want the perks of being a woman (yet they don’t act feminie). And in return? Amazons don’t want to make a house a home. They want to work and bring home the bacon. Be independent. Why do I want an independent woman when the idea of husband and wife is one depending on the other to fulfill opposite roles. Why marry a hunter when you are a hunter.
 
You may say that it takes two to bring home the bacon nowadays. I say that you are both being selfish. Do with less. Sacrafice things for your childrens benefit. They need a mother at home more than they need an ipod or a vacation. It’s a case of both being selfish. Both wanting to be hunters.
 
Follow me: Women today have become hunters. This is forcing some men to be gathers; to be less than masculine.
 
Men now become feminized so they can fulfill the part of the relationship that women have abandoned.
 
I don’t want that. I wear the pants.
 
So if you guys are comfortable wearing the panties then you are marriage material I guess. It used to be that a man could wear the pants and be marriage material. Not any more, or seldomly.
 
So if it takes sporting the G string to be married – I am out.
 
I don’t even want to wear it occasionally.
 
My needs can be put aside, but not my need to be masculine, to wear the pants. Giving my woman the nice things she wants before giving things to me is a compromise. Letting her wear the pants is a sellout.
 
I don’t sell out.
 
And I remain a solitary man. But a solitary man with dignity intact.

 aconcepts,
 
 Are you referring to women in general and/or American women in particular?  I agree with your observations because I have seen the same things.  The proportion of women anywhere who are losing their femininity and gaining masculinity has increased and is still increasing.  I don't want to speculate on the prevalence of non-feminine women in a society but I feel it is much lower in most Latin American countries than in the US.
 
 I am curious.  What are the traits you feel make a woman feminine?  What do you do to attract and keep such feminine women?
 

[braziliangirl]

“don't agree with many of the observations of serial Colombian daters because frankly most of the time it sounds like you guys are spoiled and expect WAY too much from young ladies!      I don't think you recognize that, but I believe it taints much of what you say regarding the ladies.   Nothing against you personally of course, but it always seems to me that a certain segment of the traveling men are very concerned about all of their needs, and put them as a very  high priority...Quite some time ago, I came to realize that in a marriage a man's needs are often on the back burner...I don't mind that because I figure me and many of my needs are not that important anyway!”
 
Very interesting. FT I respect your opinion and effort to advise. But it depends on the needs. Frivolous needs not that important. Basic needs that define me are very important.
 
I think it’s the exact opposite and a sign of the times that you feel the way you do.
 
I think men are not marrying because they perceive women as selfish. And many single men are not willing to trade their dignity for a wife.
 
What happened to the traditional feminine wife? The self-sacrificing woman I see here in Costa Rica. Yes I see them but they are all 40 and older. The twenty and thirty something year olds are basically lazy and selfish or dominant (generalizing).
 
So you can either cave to a lazy selfish or dominant woman or remain single.
 
What do women bring to the table? They used to bring emotional stability to the home. They used to bring consistency. You could always depend on Mom to be there for support. Both husband and child could depend on mom to be there and listen and help. Now if mom does not get her way she upsets the family balance until she gets what she wants (you guys know exactly what I am talking about). Some women even with hold sex as a tool of manipulation. Nothing honorable or dignified about that.
 
Now mom wants fulfillment outside the home (all puns intended). Mom wants to be a hunter and a gatherer/ Part Amazon and part Madonna. What happened to the Madonnas? Being a Madonna is not as important as it once was to women.
 
I am not going to marry an Amazon. A woman that hunts, that is out in the street performing traditionally masculine roles.
 
Marrying an Amazon does nothing but give them a ride. They get cheap housing, and all the other benefits that a male provider provides and then want the perks of being a woman (yet they don’t act feminie). And in return? Amazons don’t want to make a house a home. They want to work and bring home the bacon. Be independent. Why do I want an independent woman when the idea of husband and wife is one depending on the other to fulfill opposite roles. Why marry a hunter when you are a hunter.
 
You may say that it takes two to bring home the bacon nowadays. I say that you are both being selfish. Do with less. Sacrafice things for your childrens benefit. They need a mother at home more than they need an ipod or a vacation. It’s a case of both being selfish. Both wanting to be hunters.
 
Follow me: Women today have become hunters. This is forcing some men to be gathers; to be less than masculine.
 
Men now become feminized so they can fulfill the part of the relationship that women have abandoned.
 
I don’t want that. I wear the pants.
 
So if you guys are comfortable wearing the panties then you are marriage material I guess. It used to be that a man could wear the pants and be marriage material. Not any more, or seldomly.
 
So if it takes sporting the G string to be married – I am out.
 
I don’t even want to wear it occasionally.
 
My needs can be put aside, but not my need to be masculine, to wear the pants. Giving my woman the nice things she wants before giving things to me is a compromise. Letting her wear the pants is a sellout.
 
I don’t sell out.
 
And I remain a solitary man. But a solitary man with dignity intact.
 
And please don’t feel that any of this is a attack on your personal situation or your choices. Its just how I see it. Your life may be different. I welcome countering view points and hope to pursued that I am wrong.

 aconcepts,
 
 Are you referring to women in general and/or American women in particular?  I agree with your observations because I have seen the same things.  The proportion of women anywhere who are losing their femininity and gaining masculinity has increased and is still increasing.  I don't want to speculate on the prevalence of non-feminine women in a society but I feel it is much lower in most Latin American countries than in the US.
 
 I am curious.  What are the traits you feel make a woman feminine?  What do you do to attract and keep such feminine women?
 

Very, very interesting posts. They sure deserve a thread of their own.
I would like to hear from you guys what makes a good latin wife, as I'm getting more and more convinced I'm not what most of guys are looking for. At least not online.
Six years ago I almost died, and since them I'm convinced I have to give my contribution to change the world. I know it sounds really naive, but I have a plan. In fact, I have plan A and plan B. Right now, as I work in a nonprofit, helping saving the rain forest, I get a great sense of fullfilment when a law that has a tiny bit of my contributuion passes in the congress. But even on that days, my last thought before sleeping is: God, how I wish I was a wife. What I'm doing right now is plan B. Plan A was to be the great woman behind the great man, and raise awesome human beings. When I get asked what I want from life, what's my biggest dream, where I'd like to be in five years, I always reply: I want to be a wife and mother. And get mocked all the time. Seriously, where is humanity going? Family is the base for everything to work right, and people don't believe in it anymore.
Most of the women getting married around me, are the Amazons Aconcepts talked about. Maybe that's why some people say you foreingners come here to marry the ones latinos wouldn't marry. Honestly, I think that's a good thing. Should be a compliment. Latinos are mama's boys. They don't want to fight, and they surely don't want to provide. Or at least, like Aconcepts said, sacrifice their lifestyles for the sake of having well raised children.
Now repling to Brazilophile, since I consider myself a feminine woman...

What do you do to attract and keep such feminine women?

That's simple. Be masculine. Not in a macho way, of course. Be ready to fight for her, to treat her well, to provide to your family, to protect them, be sure of your masculinity, know that you don't need to be with every woman in town in order to be a man, face the issues instead of going to the bar and drink until you forget them...

[braziliangirl]

It seems like something like that happened in Brazil too:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_marines_punished_over_brazil_CFoAQRBe4IhzxaFnHBEVtK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

[Jeff S]

I would like to hear from you guys what makes a good latin wife, as I'm getting more and more convinced I'm not what most of guys are looking for.

As my father used to say (he was married three times - the last to a Latina...)


I've finally found the girl of my dreams,
I couldn't ask for more.
She's deaf and dumb and oversexed,
And owns a liquor store.


Since you don't qualify on at least three of the four (and the fourth I'm not able to comment on....) maybe you're right. 

[fathertime]

Very, very interesting posts. They sure deserve a thread of their own.
I would like to hear from you guys what makes a good latin wife, as I'm getting more and more convinced I'm not what most of guys are looking for. At least not online.
 

well to be perfectly earnest...


1.  Being very physically attractive (to me)
2.  Being a willing mother.
3.  Truly and completely being interested in me.
4.  At times, be willing to sacrifice personal wants/needs for the family/children.  *As a husband, I try to not make it a choice between one or the other, usually if the husband is willing to also make sacrifices, then the wife will have to sacrifice less*  I just wanted to see a willingness on a lady's part, if nothing else.


Fathertime!
 

[fathertime]

 
Very interesting. FT I respect your opinion and effort to advise. But it depends on the needs. Frivolous needs not that important. Basic needs that define me are very important.
 
 
I don’t want that. I wear the pants.
 
So if you guys are comfortable wearing the panties then you are marriage material I guess. It used to be that a man could wear the pants and be marriage material. Not any more, or seldomly.
 
So if it takes sporting the G string to be married – I am out.
 
 
 
 
 
And I remain a solitary man. But a solitary man with dignity intact.
 

Hey Aconcepts, I missed seeing your post until just now!


There was so much to comment on I kinda threw together a few of your quotes in the above and left the rest out. 


In your case, it would appear to me you are equating dignity with being entirely masculine.  If you, as the man, do anything you feel is feminine you feel you have sold out.  I don't understand what you have sold out to though?  I don't mind changing a diaper, doing dishes, or getting up in the middle of the night to feed the baby...Usually my wife does these things, but when I feel like being helpful I'll do these womanly duties.  I think it has been helpful in our marriage.  In addition, on occassion my wife will do something that surprises me.  We bought a few pieces of furniture that needed quite a bit of assembly, well I fully intended on assembling it, but as it turns out my wife and younger daughter got out the screwdrivers and wrenches and did it themselves.  I had no problem with them infringing on my 'manly duties'.  I think overall being a little flexible and not getting so hung up on who is masculine or who is feminine, is a very masculine way to be! 


I will say this though, I have not nor will I EVER put on a g-string!  I have drawn the line well before that point.


Fathertime! 

[aconcepts]

FT
 
I hope because I wrote meaty posts that you would take the time to comment on all and any part that interests you.
 
Entierly masculine, as opposed to part masculine? Hmmmm. Look I am always masculine. That is where the feminist indoctrination has led you. You think that you need to compromise your masculinity. You don’t. You can compromise without compromising your masculinity. Helping out when you want to (I express again “when you want to”) is hardly feminine. Being nagged into changing diapers or guilt tripped into “the men on TV change diapers or president Obama changes diapers” is a result of feminine indoctrination.
 
Doing things that are feminine are thing that come from your soul. If I do something that comes from my soul and its feminie than yes, I am feminized (by a feminazi) and yes, it’s a sellout. Occasionally doing women’s task or flirting with feminine ideals or opining about women’s clothes is not feminine, as it does not define you. Mothering your children rather than fathering your children when they have a mother is feminine as it defines you. Becoming a nag rather than a respected father is feminization.
 
The trite example you give of manly duties again shows the feminist agenda of what is manly and the trivial way they have presented it. Yes “man is tool guy and woman is dishwasher.” That is hardly at the heart of the subject, as they don’t want you to see what is at the heart of the subject.
 
Family leadership and being respected is the heart of the subject. Giving that “you are crossing the line look” and not a word further is spoken, is the subject. Acknowledgement of the importance of fatherhood and what men bring to the table like building character in their daughters and teaching manhood, such as protection and provision qualities, to their sons. That is at the heart of the matter.
 
Standing up against men being portrayed as buffoons in the media is at the heart of the matter. Not accepting women talking down to you in public by calling them out and saying look it B, don’t talk to me like I am your panty wering husband because the laws protect you against physical violence. The way some women speak to men in the US, a fist fight would go down if a man said those things. So why should women be held to a different standard. Given a pass?
 
That is what is at the heart of the matter. The double standard and women getting a pass on paying the check when they want even pay, opening the doors for them when they disrespect men. It all BS. Feminist indoctrination and its wide spread and deep.
 
Many women are no longer honorable. Sadly, they no longer know how to be honorable. For the most part there no longer exists a link to feminine honor in the US. The honor that provoked chivalry. Chivalry is dead because women’s honor is dead. Where are the women that sacrifice themselves for their family? That is honor. That is what men fight for, open doors for. Not double standard castrating sad unhappy women who think that being a woman is all about equal pay for equal work. They are lost, as they have lost the meaning of womanhood, the sacredness of family and home. They have become men.
 
The feminist have you thinking about screwdrivers and dishes, while they are castrating you with laws and denigrating men through Hollywood whore values.
  

[aconcepts]

Brazilian girl/
I think you question is sincere and I really like what you wrote, si I am going to explain myself in the most true to myself masculine way:


What am I looking for in a Latin wife? Someone that will let me be a man and like it.
 
If the feminist agenda and double standard again. I want my man to treat me as if he was a woman but I want him to be a man. Can’t have it both ways. You women complain about men not being as sensitive as you are and then men become sensitive and you claim they are wimpy!
 
You slap your man to sleep. Then you slap him for sleeping!
 
Comon girls. It all BS. Fantasy fairy tales dreamland chick flick values..
 
You want men but you don’t like them. Ha!
 
DH Lawrence said that the only thing a man and woman have in common is the bed.
Now what is so wrong about that truth?
 
I get all kinds of flack when I say that really I would rather hang out with a man.
 
I don’t mind when my woman hangs out with women. Why are you women so insecure?
 
So what is it with women not wanting men to be with men. Why do they want to monopolize our time?
 
Please answer that?
 
This soulmate crap is nauseating. Oh I want a man to be just like me. If he is going to be just like you, your soulmate, then guess what, he is going to be a woman!
 
I want a woman that values my masculinity and admires our differences. She admires my simplicity and straight forward talk. She admires that I provide her with a great home and the time and money to make our house a home. She admire that I can answer a question in five words or less.
 
I want a woman that has read:
 
 The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands
 
http://www.amazon.com/The-Proper-Care-Feeding-Husbands/dp/0060520612
 
 If you read that book and act that way I guarantee I will love you to no end. I will open every door for you, I will make you the apple of my eyes and when I am done playing soccer I will want to come home because I know there is sanctuary and someone that adores me, a man (For being a man), at our home.
 
Read the book. That is what I want.
 
I have read the book and for me it’s a tearjerker.
 
Its hard for me to even fathom how lucky a man would be to have a woman like that.

[Jeff S]

Well, thank you aconcepts - I feel lucky, too. Believe it or not there are still plenty of women on the planet who believe that men and women are different - that they're not interchangeable, and they enjoy being women and enjoy having men be men.

[aconcepts]

Thank God there is still hope! Now please don't let my post languish in PL purgatory for 5 days.... I think I have proven that I have valuable provacative things to say and that the readers are interested in them.. They like my Crap!!!! Jajajajaja

[fathertime]

FT
 
I hope because I wrote meaty posts that you would take the time to comment on all and any part that interests you.
 
Entierly masculine, as opposed to part masculine? Hmmmm. Look I am always masculine. That is where the feminist indoctrination has led you. You think that you need to compromise your masculinity. You don’t. You can compromise without compromising your masculinity. Helping out when you want to (I express again “when you want to”) is hardly feminine. Being nagged into changing diapers or guilt tripped into “the men on TV change diapers or president Obama changes diapers” is a result of feminine indoctrination.
 
Doing things that are feminine are thing that come from your soul. If I do something that comes from my soul and its feminie than yes, I am feminized (by a feminazi) and yes, it’s a sellout. Occasionally doing women’s task or flirting with feminine ideals or opining about women’s clothes is not feminine, as it does not define you. Mothering your children rather than fathering your children when they have a mother is feminine as it defines you. Becoming a nag rather than a respected father is feminization.
 
The trite example you give of manly duties again shows the feminist agenda of what is manly and the trivial way they have presented it. Yes “man is tool guy and woman is dishwasher.” That is hardly at the heart of the subject, as they don’t want you to see what is at the heart of the subject.
 
Family leadership and being respected is the heart of the subject. Giving that “you are crossing the line look” and not a word further is spoken, is the subject. Acknowledgement of the importance of fatherhood and what men bring to the table like building character in their daughters and teaching manhood, such as protection and provision qualities, to their sons. That is at the heart of the matter.
 
Standing up against men being portrayed as buffoons in the media is at the heart of the matter. Not accepting women talking down to you in public by calling them out and saying look it B, don’t talk to me like I am your panty wering husband because the laws protect you against physical violence. The way some women speak to men in the US, a fist fight would go down if a man said those things. So why should women be held to a different standard. Given a pass?
 
That is what is at the heart of the matter. The double standard and women getting a pass on paying the check when they want even pay, opening the doors for them when they disrespect men. It all BS. Feminist indoctrination and its wide spread and deep.
 
Many women are no longer honorable. Sadly, they no longer know how to be honorable. For the most part there no longer exists a link to feminine honor in the US. The honor that provoked chivalry. Chivalry is dead because women’s honor is dead. Where are the women that sacrifice themselves for their family? That is honor. That is what men fight for, open doors for. Not double standard castrating sad unhappy women who think that being a woman is all about equal pay for equal work. They are lost, as they have lost the meaning of womanhood, the sacredness of family and home. They have become men.
 
The feminist have you thinking about screwdrivers and dishes, while they are castrating you with laws and denigrating men through Hollywood whore values.
 

Hey Aconcepts!


I find this parts of this post useful to me.   It has provoked me to think a little more deeply about certain things.  Thanks, I guess my washing the dishes and turning the wrenches examples aren't what you were referring to.


An interesting aspect to all of this is:


Does an individual man deserve or warrant respect from the ladies?


I'd say some do and some don't.  It seems to me that the ones that warrant respect generally do get it and the ones that don't generally don't.  This is a generalization. 


Regarding you as an individual, you appear to be much more aware of the inner workings of relationships than your average guy walking around drinking a beer and watching baseball.  Given this, it would seem to me that you should be able to find a respectful feminine woman assuming you (as the man) possess the traits she requires to bring out her femininity.


Based on my experiences, respect has to be earned nowadays and it can be a bit tricky/painful at times.  Maybe it was automatic in the past,   but I don't know about now.  It still can be earned (or lost) and that is fine by me.  I can't control society at large, but I have always felt I have the ability to control the destiny of how my family life is. 


Fathertime! 

[aconcepts]

Regarding you as an individual, you appear to be much more aware of the inner workings of relationships than your average guy walking around drinking a beer and watching baseball.  Given this, it would seem to me that you should be able to find a respectful feminine woman assuming you (as the man) possess the traits she requires to bring out her femininity.
 
FT
 
“Bring out her femininity.” I would not like to think that a woman has to bring out my masculinity. I assume it would be evident. I do think I know where you are going with this regarding men being marriage material and bring out the best in the other person. And I agree. But masculine and feminine traits are fundamental. If one has to bring them out in the other then I don’t see that person as being someone with whom I would want to start a relationship.
 
I am not looking for a woman to whom I have to define femininity or bring it out in her.
 
Regarding my ability to meet someone for a long-term relationship: It’s tough for me and for her. I have lived a lot of life, and I don’t expect to find my life equal. I can find my intellectual equal my masculine feminine quotient equal, my financial equal but my life experience equal? That would be tough.
 
So I don’t look for one person that fulfills all roles. It seems to me most people are looking for one person to be all things to them. I guess as you say if a guy is a beer drinking and watch ball games only guy then finding someone that fits a simple life’s needs may be doable.
 
I don’t mind losing. My ego is sort of bullet proof because of my confidence. Not my cockiness. I well know myself. That means I know what I can do in my heart compared to what many think they can do in their minds.
 
Beauty wise I hit on women that are beauty contestants 30 years younger. Do I really want another pain in the ass beauty queen? Not really but depends on her heart. So I don’t mind being turned down by 65% percent of them. And then of the 35% that give me their phone numbers, I actually go out with 35% of them. Now that is a lot of what most men call rejection. I call it experience. The difference between rejection and experience is one’s self confidence.
 
People that see it as rejection think they are deficient. I know I am not deficient…Jajaj hardly.
 
I found out early in life through business building that “no does not mean never. I also found out that it’s a numbers game. You have to knock on many doors, make many phone calls and go places and do things others either won’t do because they don’t see the value in doing it or are too lazy. That means you encounter a lot of “No.”
 
Many women peg me as a player, and I am. What they find out later is that I am soulful. I love to admire beautiful women, beautiful children and beautiful land. I also reward beautiful behavior and admire that as well. But what several women tell me they like about me is my confidence. I know I am going to win. And even if I lose I did my best and I had a great experience being there on that date with them, so I did win. I mean that sincerely. I dated three of the Miss Costa Rica 2012 contestants. We are still friends so lets see where that goes. Are they my girlfriends – no, not yet anyways. Do I want them as girlfriends? Not really sure. Now how many guys at any age can say that? Let alone an old man like me… jajajaja. Beiieve it or not I have Johanna Solanos contact info but she is a celebrity here (Top 10 finalist in Miss Universe Brazil 2011) but what, I don't want to be seen as the guy Johanna is dating... I went through that scenario with the mortgage banker in the other long post I wrote... Never called her.
 
I have a date with a 30 year old beauty professional mother of one who I met on LAC, 5’8” 120,  jet black long hair and white white complexion. Am I looking to take her to bed? Not reallt.  Am looking to eat sushi at Tsunami and drink some Sapporo and have some laughs hopefully.
 
So many women that are out of my league youth and beauty wise after they get to know me actually start to like me. Then its time to see who is and who is not compatible.
 
One very valuable thing I have learned from Ticos is the importance of friendship.
Women here say to me oh you’re nice but I just want to be friends. At first, I thought that meant I am not interested in you. It means the exact opposite; it means I am interested in you but not so fast.
 
I don’t mind being the teacher. Many young beautiful Latinas want the older guy experience and even though it has it rewards it has its downfalls as well.
 
You have to be tough when you know it’s only for a little while if you begin to develop feeling for a woman 20 years younger.
 
So at this point in my life I say hey, you can enjoy the youth and beauty that most men never get when they are 25 and admire it while it lasts.
 
Yes I would love to die in my beautiful wife’s arms but I am perfectly prepared to die alone in an ultra light flying over a south American jungle.
 
I am such a different breed of cat that it’s hard for me to relate to beer, barbeques and baseball games. I do like simple things but I could not say they define me. Not that being simple is undesirable. Many women find my complexity too challenging, "oh, another complicated reply" I have got that one several times. But more find it intriguing..
 
My life aint broke so I am not looking to fix it by finding anyone… as if a mate can make you whole. You find a mate because you are whole in the first place. Not vice versa. If they come along then that is great.
 
Plus I am not looking for “normal” and I don’t mind being used as I have also been the user. Why because it comes down to this: We all act according to our interests; we do what benefits us even when we do things for others. Where is the benefit in that, we benefit because we feel good about doing things for others. We all use each other for various reasons. It’s those that cry “you used me” who are the ones that are unreasonable. It’s what I call a pity pot reaction. Self pity,, sad stuff.
 
Basically I don’t really spend a lot of money on myself. Money brings happiness… if you spend it on others. That is how I benefit myself by spending money. It makes me happy taking women cloth shopping or to beautiful restaurants. Some have even bought me clothes because they see I am a Levis and tee shirt guy (with a sports coat at night) so they want to help me out with fashion! Bless their little hearts.. Little do they know that I used to have the fluff and fold deliver my custom fitted silk suits (many of which were custom made in Thailand) to my home dry cleaned every Wednesday afternoon. Been there done that, but they think they are helping and it’s cute so I just accept their advice and kiss them thank you.
 
So as always the long way to answer your question by letting you inside my head. I appreciate you concern but it’s just not a priority to me.
 
I have many people in my life that will put me up for a night or two…. Not really looking for anything in anybody’s eyes… but if it comes along than I guess I am a richer man for it… we will see,,,,, wont we….

[fathertime]

Regarding you as an individual, you appear to be much more aware of the inner workings of relationships than your average guy walking around drinking a beer and watching baseball.  Given this, it would seem to me that you should be able to find a respectful feminine woman assuming you (as the man) possess the traits she requires to bring out her femininity.
 
FT
 
“Bring out her femininity.” I would not like to think that a woman has to bring out my masculinity. I assume it would be evident. I do think I know where you are going with this regarding men being marriage material and bring out the best in the other person. And I agree. But masculine and feminine traits are fundamental. If one has to bring them out in the other then I don’t see that person as being someone with whom I would want to start a relationship.
 
I am not looking for a woman to whom I have to define femininity or bring it out in her.
 
Regarding my ability to meet someone for a long-term relationship: It’s tough for me and for her. I have lived a lot of life, and I don’t expect to find my life equal. I can find my intellectual equal my masculine feminine quotient equal, my financial equal but my life experience equal? That would be tough.
 
So I don’t look for one person that fulfills all roles. It seems to me most people are looking for one person to be all things to them. I guess as you say if a guy is a beer drinking and watch ball games only guy then finding someone that fits a simple life’s needs may be doable.
 
I don’t mind losing. My ego is sort of bullet proof because of my confidence. Not my cockiness. I well know myself. That means I know what I can do in my heart compared to what many think they can do in their minds.
 
Beauty wise I hit on women that are beauty contestants 30 years younger. Do I really want another pain in the ass beauty queen? Not really but depends on her heart. So I don’t mind being turned down by 65% percent of them. And then of the 35% that give me their phone numbers, I actually go out with 35% of them. Now that is a lot of what most men call rejection. I call it experience. The difference between rejection and experience is one’s self confidence.
 
People that see it as rejection think they are deficient. I know I am not deficient…Jajaj hardly.
 
I found out early in life through business building that “no does not mean never. I also found out that it’s a numbers game. You have to knock on many doors, make many phone calls and go places and do things others either won’t do because they don’t see the value in doing it or are too lazy. That means you encounter a lot of “No.”
 
Many women peg me as a player, and I am. What they find out later is that I am soulful. I love to admire beautiful women, beautiful children and beautiful land. I also reward beautiful behavior and admire that as well. But what several women tell me they like about me is my confidence. I know I am going to win. And even if I lose I did my best and I had a great experience being there on that date with them, so I did win. I mean that sincerely. I dated three of the Miss Costa Rica 2012 contestants. We are still friends so lets see where that goes. Are they my girlfriends – no, not yet anyways. Do I want them as girlfriends? Not really sure. Now how many guys at any age can say that? Let alone an old man like me… jajajaja. Beiieve it or not I have Johanna Solanos contact info but she is a celebrity here (Top 10 finalist in Miss Universe Brazil 2011) but what, I don't want to be seen as the guy Johanna is dating... I went through that scenario with the mortgage banker in the other long post I wrote... Never called her.
 
I have a date with a 30 year old beauty professional mother of one who I met on LAC, 5’8” 120,  jet black long hair and white white complexion. Am I looking to take her to bed? Not reallt.  Am looking to eat sushi at Tsunami and drink some Sapporo and have some laughs hopefully.
 
So many women that are out of my league youth and beauty wise after they get to know me actually start to like me. Then its time to see who is and who is not compatible.
 
One very valuable thing I have learned from Ticos is the importance of friendship.
Women here say to me oh you’re nice but I just want to be friends. At first, I thought that meant I am not interested in you. It means the exact opposite; it means I am interested in you but not so fast.
 
I don’t mind being the teacher. Many young beautiful Latinas want the older guy experience and even though it has it rewards it has its downfalls as well.
 
You have to be tough when you know it’s only for a little while if you begin to develop feeling for a woman 20 years younger.
 
So at this point in my life I say hey, you can enjoy the youth and beauty that most men never get when they are 25 and admire it while it lasts.
 
Yes I would love to die in my beautiful wife’s arms but I am perfectly prepared to die alone in an ultra light flying over a south American jungle.
 
I am such a different breed of cat that it’s hard for me to relate to beer, barbeques and baseball games. I do like simple things but I could not say they define me. Not that being simple is undesirable. Many women find my complexity too challenging, "oh, another complicated reply" I have got that one several times. But more find it intriguing..
 
My life aint broke so I am not looking to fix it by finding anyone… as if a mate can make you whole. You find a mate because you are whole in the first place. Not vice versa. If they come along then that is great.
 
Plus I am not looking for “normal” and I don’t mind being used as I have also been the user. Why because it comes down to this: We all act according to our interests; we do what benefits us even when we do things for others. Where is the benefit in that, we benefit because we feel good about doing things for others. We all use each other for various reasons. It’s those that cry “you used me” who are the ones that are unreasonable. It’s what I call a pity pot reaction. Self pity,, sad stuff.
 
Basically I don’t really spend a lot of money on myself. Money brings happiness… if you spend it on others. That is how I benefit myself by spending money. It makes me happy taking women cloth shopping or to beautiful restaurants. Some have even bought me clothes because they see I am a Levis and tee shirt guy (with a sports coat at night) so they want to help me out with fashion! Bless their little hearts.. Little do they know that I used to have the fluff and fold deliver my custom fitted silk suits (many of which were custom made in Thailand) to my home dry cleaned every Wednesday afternoon. Been there done that, but they think they are helping and it’s cute so I just accept their advice and kiss them thank you.
 
So as always the long way to answer your question by letting you inside my head. I appreciate you concern but it’s just not a priority to me.
 
I have many people in my life that will put me up for a night or two…. Not really looking for anything in anybody’s eyes… but if it comes along than I guess I am a richer man for it… we will see,,,,, wont we….

Well old boy I guess you are a bit complicated.  To find a spouse that you are interested enough in, should prove particularly challenging.  I understand that is not too important for you, so I guess you can continue enjoying what you are doing.   It would be interesting to listen to you speak in person, you wouldn’t happen to have a YouTUbe page would you?   


Fathertime!

[V_Man]

When I read about how terrible Colombianas are and all their negative attributes, I think I must be so lucky I am gifted. 

Then again since I never meet a Colombiana that wasn't hard working (for example) perhaps I have already meet the entire population of Colombianas that aren't terrible people.