secret service busted in cartagena

[mudd]

nice black eye for colombia and the secret service


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allegations-of-misconduct-12-obama-secret-service-agents-relived-of-duty-in-prostitution-scandal/

[whitey]

No one can resist a hot colombiana ...!

[fathertime]

yeah this really makes the secret service look bad...they are supposed to be studly, stone-faced, and totally serious protecting President obozocraps and instead they out slobbering over ho's and trying to get out of paying them afterwords.  Jerks!


In addition it is a bit degrading to the Colombian women whose overall reputation isn't helped by this kind of story.   



Fathertime!   

[aconcepts]

especially rentals!!!!!!!!!!

[mudd]

In addition it is a bit degrading to the Colombian women whose overall reputation isn't helped by this kind of story

speaking of reputation of colombianas,  i was at a latin b-day party last night for a friends wife who is from Ecuador. In all, their were 3 girls from ecuador, one from peru, one from panama and 3 or 4 from mexico and  a few gringas and the rest were men. talking to one of the guys who is married to an ecuadorian, trading traveling stories and we get on the subject of colombianas, and boy, it wasnt good. Alot of colombiana women bashing lol.
 the girl from panama joins in along with another lady from Ecuador and wow, they didnt have anyting good to say about colombianas. their impression of colombianas were, "good looking, but  easy, big  liers and manipulative ". they had a slang saying for them, but i forgot it, something to the effect of  work for a colombiana was " laying on their backs in bed"    lol , was a fun party hahahahah.
 

[aconcepts]

I met a 38 year old Colombiana who has been living in Spain for the last 15 years (online (LAC) and I told her about future travel plans to Colombia to meet some women. She said, Oh oh - you better watch yourself. Look I an a colombiana but I have been living and working in Spain for the last 15 years, but... Colombianas do not want to work, Not even in the house. They want to lay and bed and have sex. That's all. I said, hahahah comon you are kidding right? She said, 'No I am serious. They are all gold diggers." You will find that they do not even want to help around the house. If they think you have money they want a maid. If they don't think you have the money the house will be dirty until you clean it." Now this is a colombiana who says she still returns once a year to colombia, talking this way about her country women.


Now, although its telling, I am Italian American  (born in US, but both parents born in Italy) and when I used to go back to Italy I loathed the Italians. They made me ashamed of my heritage. They stood in your space and spoke two inches from your nose. They always seemed as if they were yelling and talking at the same time. They would stare at single women like they had never seen one and when I would bring a girlfriend to Italy to see my father they would gush all over them. Not to mention poor hygiene such as BO and bad breath. I don't know if you guys have ever come across Italian tourist in their speedos and gold chains but I mean ,,, Gross. Maybe because I share the blood I am sensitive to it, but really pigish with a capital "P".


So I guess I can understand her bashing as I have done it as well.


Also in my research about colombia I was told by someone that worked in Venezuela for many years that the venezuelans see the colombians as campesionos and beneath them. They view them as farmers and would never want there son or daughters to have anything to do with them.


So there you go...

[Red Clay]

This report matches what my Peruvian wife and all Peruvians that I know think of Colombianas. You won't hear anything good about Colombianas in Peru, although I attribute alot of that to just regular resentment/rivalry among Latin countries in general.

[Calipro]

I met a 38 year old Colombiana who has been living in Spain for the last 15 years (online (LAC) and I told her about future travel plans to Colombia to meet some women. She said, Oh oh - you better watch yourself. Look I an a colombiana but I have been living and working in Spain for the last 15 years, but... Colombianas do not want to work, Not even in the house. They want to lay and bed and have sex. That's all. I said, hahahah comon you are kidding right? She said, 'No I am serious. They are all gold diggers." You will find that they do not even want to help around the house. If they think you have money they want a maid. If they don't think you have the money the house will be dirty until you clean it." Now this is a colombiana who says she still returns once a year to colombia, talking this way about her country women.


Now, although its telling, I am Italian American  (born in US, but both parents born in Italy) and when I used to go back to Italy I loathed the Italians. They made me ashamed of my heritage. They stood in your space and spoke two inches from your nose. They always seemed as if they were yelling and talking at the same time. They would stare at single women like they had never seen one and when I would bring a girlfriend to Italy to see my father they would gush all over them. Not to mention poor hygiene such as BO and bad breath. I don't know if you guys have ever come across Italian tourist in their speedos and gold chains but I mean ,,, Gross. Maybe because I share the blood I am sensitive to it, but really pigish with a capital "P".


So I guess I can understand her bashing as I have done it as well.


Also in my research about colombia I was told by someone that worked in Venezuela for many years that the venezuelans see the colombians as campesionos and beneath them. They view them as farmers and would never want there son or daughters to have anything to do with them.


So there you go...

Once you break out of the poor barrio chicks and start to date middle class women in Colombia....you will find that many of them grew up with full time maid in the house and have no idea "how to cook or clean".


Had one of my upper middle class girlfriends cook me dinner one night....big mistake....she just took chicken right out of the freezer and started frying it in a pan....of course it looked great until I bit into it and got a mouth full of raw chicken.....I do give her credit for trying and overall higher class Colombian chicks are go-getters compared to the rest.


The poorer chicks will cook and clean but are less ambitions when it comes to work and studies than the upper class chicks.....the idea of getting an education and working to get ahead in life seems to be a foreign concept to some. I mean it is like living with a child sometimes....you have to actually wake them up and get them fed in the morning or they'll just sleep until noon and miss their classes.


Neither class of women is prone to headaches and will get down to business on a daily basis without hesitation.

[aconcepts]

"Neither class of women is prone to headaches and will get down to business on a daily basis without hesitation."
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[/size]Bless their little hearts!

[fathertime]

It is pretty humorous hearing what all these ladies from other countries have to say about colombian ladies....my experience here in the usa with a colombiana has been very different than what some guys are hearing from the gossip of sewing circles. 


Fathertime!   

[mrlasvegas]

I work with several colombianas and have found them very hard working. One works by day and runs two businesses with her Colombian husband as well. The others study online and are quite reliable with excellent english skills. Goes to prove stereotypes are not always correct.

[thekfc]

The news are making headlines in the newspapers   tabloids here in NYC.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/serviced_men_scandal_grows_2T1mCesDYYJAKVhkhNDObJ


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/secret-service-hooker-hot-spot-eleven-agents-assigned-protect-president-found-girls-prey-club-sources-article-1.1062230


http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/secret-service-scandal-deepens-11-placed-on-leave-1.3661734

[aconcepts]

I am pesonally very happy that the stero types I have heard of are just that: sterotypes. Its wierd how that happens, Its even wierd how people just change or grow away from their culture,


Like Cubans. I know Cuban Americans in Miami that don't like Cuban immigrants.


I hardly believe that all colombians, Italians, Americans or Irish are the same. Just reporting back what I was told without passing judgement.


Let me relate another LAC story (I love LAC because its endless entertainment and a great chance to improve my Spanish and learn how to read people)>


A colombiana living here in Costa Rica who was very forceful with me regarding that I had to have a web cam because she had to verify that my photos were indeed me, said something that really made me happy.


I told her that I was planning a trip to Colombia and she said. Well if you go to Colombia you will get rid of your profile on this website (LAC). She meant that the seletion and beauty level were superior. She is right,


Look I have had many 7s and 8s and 9s here, Trophy quality women (few of the lookers seem to make good company though), but after comparing the sheer volume of beautiful women in the Colombia section to the costa rica section, well its 7 - 0 skunk in ping pong. That is the comparison is over as soon as its begun. The sheer volume indicates that even if the stero types is deserved there are going to be a lot of good ones that are far from stero typical! uncovered nuggets boys! Go getum!


Also the volume is incredible! Did you see that rumored to be a rug eater Hiliary going off? I bet she was right there with the SS guys!!! ajajajajaja gettin some. Yea Hil! Bill would have been proud!


BTW I love Pres C.


Pres O I am sure would have been gettin it too but his old lady looks like she can kick some major league behind!


Hmmmm

[Jeff S]

[Researcher]

     Women selling themselves in a third world country? Wow, what a bombshell that is!


     Researcher

[benjio]

It is pretty humorous hearing what all these ladies from other countries have to say about colombian ladies....my experience here in the usa with a colombiana has been very different than what some guys are hearing from the gossip of sewing circles. 


Fathertime!   

FT, your unwillingness to recognize and appreciate how lucky you are to have found a Colombiana (even more unbelievable...a COSTEÑA!!!!) that does not fit into any of these stereotypes always amazes me. I think you've mentioned how much time you've spent in Colombia and gave a ballpark figure for how many women you've dated in one or several other threads. I don't think you'd consider yourself nor would I call you a "seasoned vet" in terms of dating based on those numbers. However, you continue to advocate the idea that there are plenty of women in Colombia like your wife, and that other gringos with much more Colombiana Dating experience than you who generally disagree with that optimistic viewpoint are wrong. You often go as far as suggesting that there has to be something wrong with the man if he can't find what you've found in Colombia. I can guarantee that if you spent an extended period of time there and gave yourself the opportunity to get to know a multitude of women, your opinion of Colombianas would not be so flattering.
 
Stereotypes are obviously not facts, but they sometimes evolve into accepted beliefs for good reason. After spending a lot of time in Colombia I've realized there are great people there, and that includes a few good women. But as a culture, at a bird's eye view, I've never experienced a more self-serving, dishonest and conniving group of people in my life. And I think I can proclaim with the utmost confidence that anyone that's spent significant time there will agree with me.
 
That being said, I have to agree with Red Clay when I read a lot of these stories. Latinos usually have a tendancy to believe their little section of Central or South America is the best thing happening below the border and every other country is somehow not as good as their own. I've also found that some people with Latino Roots that live in the United States, Canada or Europe have an even lower opinion of the people from their homeland than Latinos from other countries. No one hates illegal immigrants more than Mexican Americans, right!!!  
 
I know Colombianas that can cook their asses off; others that are from lower classes but extremely ambitious; and even a few more that tell the truth once in a while. I know illegal immigrants that aren't rapist and murderers, but just trying to make a living and support their families. I know Italian Americans that aren't in the mob, Irishmen that don't drink, extremely intelligent blondes, Jews that are wreckless with money, black men that can't run fast....the list goes on and on. Imagine that.
 
The thing about Colombianas always wanting to have sex though....100% true. 

[Researcher]

FT, your unwillingness to recognize and appreciate how lucky you are to have found a Colombiana (even more unbelievable...a COSTEÑA!!!!) that does not fit into any of these stereotypes always amazes me. I think you've mentioned how much time you've spent in Colombia and gave a ballpark figure for how many women you've dated in one or several other threads. I don't think you'd consider yourself nor would I call you a "seasoned vet" in terms of dating based on those numbers. However, you continue to advocate the idea that there are plenty of women in Colombia like your wife, and that other gringos with much more Colombiana Dating experience than you who generally disagree with that optimistic viewpoint are wrong. You often go as far as suggesting that there has to be something wrong with the man if he can't find what you've found in Colombia. I can guarantee that if you spent an extended period of time there and gave yourself the opportunity to get to know a multitude of women, your opinion of Colombianas would not be so flattering.
 
Stereotypes are obviously not facts, but they sometimes evolve into accepted beliefs for good reason. After spending a lot of time in Colombia I've realized there are great people there, and that includes a few good women. But as a culture, at a bird's eye view, I've never experienced a more self-serving, dishonest and conniving group of people in my life. And I think I can proclaim with the utmost confidence that anyone that's spent significant time there will agree with me.

     So what? The same goes for many countries. I can't speak for FT but I have to agree with him when it comes to finding a good woman. I believe it comes down to the man as much as the woman. And yes, if a guy hasn't found a keeper after years of looking either he is attracted to the wrong type of woman or he just doesn't want to settle down just yet. For me, I spent years looking but I started as a relatively young man and took my time. There are good and bad people all over the world and if a guy is lead by his "little head" or just plain naive odds are he will get squashed like the road apple he is. Personally I get sick of hearing about these awful Colombianas because I KNOW for a fact it is mostly hogwash. Even if it were as bad as described guys aren't forced to marry any of them and if you don't have enough sense to be able to choose a good one then stay the heck on the porch. No wait, scratch that, keep on going and reporting what happens on this forum. It beats anything on TV these days.


    Researcher

[aconcepts]

Interesting... look if  yiu have something good you want to protect it! I can understand that, but i think some here are writing over protective stuff as if people are speaking about their women.


This will probably piss you guys off (what's new?  my Modus Operendi right), but when I here a man say my women is different than other women it reminds me of the guy that goes to Vegas and claims he never looses////


I have lived in Latin Amerixa for yesrs and yes I hope the One comes along but I tend to agree more with Benjio.

FT and Reseatcher you guys should count your lucky stars...

Most chicks here in CR are not marriage material,,, jajajaj but then again they would proba;ly say that about me to if they were not so interested in my lifestyle!!!

truth be told according to the book of Me. jajajaja. Its all crap its just that some of it smells different.... Guest it depends on your dietary experiences. "remember that ols saying your are what you crap? or sumpen like dat!




Jefferator - great post. I love Bill! jajajajaj ... look at the O man's mug. Jajajaja pricelesss...


Bill and Hill
went to Colombia
one came back married


Which one was it???

[fathertime]

FT, your unwillingness to recognize and appreciate how lucky you are to have found a Colombiana (even more unbelievable...a COSTEÑA!!!!) that does not fit into any of these stereotypes always amazes me. I think you've mentioned how much time you've spent in Colombia and gave a ballpark figure for how many women you've dated in one or several other threads. I don't think you'd consider yourself nor would I call you a "seasoned vet" in terms of dating based on those numbers. However, you continue to advocate the idea that there are plenty of women in Colombia like your wife, and that other gringos with much more Colombiana Dating experience than you who generally disagree with that optimistic viewpoint are wrong. You often go as far as suggesting that there has to be something wrong with the man if he can't find what you've found in Colombia. I can guarantee that if you spent an extended period of time there and gave yourself the opportunity to get to know a multitude of women, your opinion of Colombianas would not be so flattering.
   

My feeling is that if you are the right type of man there will be plenty of good ladies for you in Colombia.  If a man really WANTS to be married and is working to devote the time/effort involved he will find what he wants, that is assuming the man is not a basket case *big assumption there*    I traveled over the course of a few years and saw quite a few ladies in that time, and when the time came I made my choice and was LUCKY my wife thought rather highly of me too! 


I don't agree with many of the observations of serial Colombian daters because frankly most of the time it sounds like you guys are spoiled and expect WAY too much from young ladies!      I don't think you recognize that, but I believe it taints much of what you say regarding the ladies.   Nothing against you personally of course, but it always seems to me that a certain segment of the traveling men are very concerned about all of their needs, and put them as a very  high priority...Quite some time ago, I came to realize that in a marriage a man's needs are often on the back burner...I don't mind that because I figure me and many of my needs are not that important anyway!


 I still hold that if a man is not finding what he wants then he is ENTIRELY culpable...not the ladies he has passed over.  I don't think any of this is going to make sense to you, but at a minimum you see where I'm coming from. 


Fathertime! 

[Researcher]

           There does seem to be quite a bit of negativity lately. The pattern seems to be that someone posts something negative about Colombianas then what follows is a series of back patting posts and praise on how someone "tells it like it is". I don't have any problem with telling it like it is but what does that really have to offer anyone? It may serve as a warning to the inexperienced but other than that it is really a hopeless message. It says "hey, most Colombianas aren't wife material so why bother?" At least FT offers a solution. At the very least some food for thought that isn't a hopeless message. I think it is important to say foreign women aren't all angels who make ideal wives but then what? Where does one go from there? Some guys don't have the answer to that because they haven't been down that road. It might payoff for them to open their minds and consider what us old married guys are saying.

   Researcher

[aconcepts]

“don't agree with many of the observations of serial Colombian daters because frankly most of the time it sounds like you guys are spoiled and expect WAY too much from young ladies!      I don't think you recognize that, but I believe it taints much of what you say regarding the ladies.   Nothing against you personally of course, but it always seems to me that a certain segment of the traveling men are very concerned about all of their needs, and put them as a very  high priority...Quite some time ago, I came to realize that in a marriage a man's needs are often on the back burner...I don't mind that because I figure me and many of my needs are not that important anyway!”
 
Very interesting. FT I respect your opinion and effort to advise. But it depends on the needs. Frivolous needs not that important. Basic needs that define me are very important.
 
I think it’s the exact opposite and a sign of the times that you feel the way you do.
 
I think men are not marrying because they perceive women as selfish. And many single men are not willing to trade their dignity for a wife.
 
What happened to the traditional feminine wife? The self-sacrificing woman I see here in Costa Rica. Yes I see them but they are all 40 and older. The twenty and thirty something year olds are basically lazy and selfish or dominant (generalizing).
 
So you can either cave to a lazy selfish or dominant woman or remain single.
 
What do women bring to the table? They used to bring emotional stability to the home. They used to bring consistency. You could always depend on Mom to be there for support. Both husband and child could depend on mom to be there and listen and help. Now if mom does not get her way she upsets the family balance until she gets what she wants (you guys know exactly what I am talking about). Some women even with hold sex as a tool of manipulation. Nothing honorable or dignified about that.
 
Now mom wants fulfillment outside the home (all puns intended). Mom wants to be a hunter and a gatherer/ Part Amazon and part Madonna. What happened to the Madonnas? Being a Madonna is not as important as it once was to women.
 
I am not going to marry an Amazon. A woman that hunts, that is out in the street performing traditionally masculine roles.
 
Marrying an Amazon does nothing but give them a ride. They get cheap housing, and all the other benefits that a male provider provides and then want the perks of being a woman (yet they don’t act feminie). And in return? Amazons don’t want to make a house a home. They want to work and bring home the bacon. Be independent. Why do I want an independent woman when the idea of husband and wife is one depending on the other to fulfill opposite roles. Why marry a hunter when you are a hunter.
 
You may say that it takes two to bring home the bacon nowadays. I say that you are both being selfish. Do with less. Sacrafice things for your childrens benefit. They need a mother at home more than they need an ipod or a vacation. It’s a case of both being selfish. Both wanting to be hunters.
 
Follow me: Women today have become hunters. This is forcing some men to be gathers; to be less than masculine.
 
Men now become feminized so they can fulfill the part of the relationship that women have abandoned.
 
I don’t want that. I wear the pants.
 
So if you guys are comfortable wearing the panties then you are marriage material I guess. It used to be that a man could wear the pants and be marriage material. Not any more, or seldomly.
 
So if it takes sporting the G string to be married – I am out.
 
I don’t even want to wear it occasionally.
 
My needs can be put aside, but not my need to be masculine, to wear the pants. Giving my woman the nice things she wants before giving things to me is a compromise. Letting her wear the pants is a sellout.
 
I don’t sell out.
 
And I remain a solitary man. But a solitary man with dignity intact.
 
And please don’t feel that any of this is a attack on your personal situation or your choices. Its just how I see it. Your life may be different. I welcome countering view points and hope to pursued that I am wrong.

[aconcepts]

Researcher – no I don’t have answerers. Wish I did. Like most, I have observations. They are easier to write. If I had answers, I could probably make some money on them. My observations are maybe a tad more than mundane, but they may benefit a few…
 
No doubt, marriage is one of our most cherished institutions. Most everyone has been married or wanted to be married at one time or another.
 
Let’s look at marriage from a statistical point of view. It has a 50 percent failure rate: divorce. Married women have one of the highest homicide rate. Married men or formerly married men have the highest suicide rate.
 
You see when people first get married they have what I call puppy love, and as time goes by they start to fight like cats and dogs. Some more time goes along, and they fight some more and eventually find away of getting along or get divorced. Sometimes things gets so violent and a husband shoots his wife and then kills himself.
 
Also many men kill themselves when they get despondent over a failed marriage. Men have four times the suicide rate as women, and its from bad marriages. They get so disillusioned with their failed marriages, they kill themselves.
 
Here's what I like about pay for play: no fighting, no screaming, no yelling, no black eyes, no fat lips, no broken bones, no stabbing, no bullet holes, no dead wives, no shaken babies, no abandoned children,
 no dead children, no lawyers, no judges, no courts, no divorce, no alimony, no child support, no prison time, no in-laws, no screwy relatives, no lying, no cheating, no letting someone down, no hating of your partner, no maneuvering for power, no back stabbing, no backbiting, no whining, no expensive rituals.
 
It’s not for everybody, that’s for sure, but neither is marriage. We are becoming more of a single population every year. It’s just an exchange of sex and companionship for money, for a mutually beneficial relationship.
 
So what's the solution? I don’t know, people should be married for family, but it doesn’t look too promising if you look at the stats. 50 percent get divorced, 35 percent are held together by family pressures and economics, with 15 percent who truly cannot live without the other. So many people get married because Cindy is so cute or Larry is so cool and they end up hating each other for the rest of their lives.
 
I remember many of the girls that I have been with over the years, and not one do I hate. A couple I would not like to be with again. They were just not very much fun, but gees, I didn’t kill them, or get depressed, and kill myself. I know plenty of men that truly hate their ex-wives.
 
Last year 75 women ere killed in domestic violence in Costa Rica. In the last five years no prostitutes have been murdered. If we went to these murdered women's homes and looked through their photo albums and looked at their wedding photos, you would see pictures of the wedding ceremony. Then there would be pictures of the reception, and there would be photos of dancing, kissing, cutting of cake, hugging, smiling, just full of optimism.
 
Guess what? Most men and women don't get along well for long periods of time. We have many internal differences and many external differences.
 
Marriage is not for everybody.
 
Without the children gluing it together, most marriages fail. The majority of the others are miserable relationships. If there was a clean and safe way for men to find sex without the stigma of a brothel I doubt marriage would survive except in cases where having children were involved. It’s a changing world and as researcher wrote people are more self centered. Concerned with their happiness: selfish.

[benjio]

           There does seem to be quite a bit of negativity lately. The pattern seems to be that someone posts something negative about Colombianas then what follows is a series of back patting posts and praise on how someone "tells it like it is". I don't have any problem with telling it like it is but what does that really have to offer anyone? It may serve as a warning to the inexperienced but other than that it is really a hopeless message. It says "hey, most Colombianas aren't wife material so why bother?" At least FT offers a solution. At the very least some food for thought that isn't a hopeless message. I think it is important to say foreign women aren't all angels who make ideal wives but then what? Where does one go from there? Some guys don't have the answer to that because they haven't been down that road. It might payoff for them to open their minds and consider what us old married guys are saying.

   Researcher

Researcher,
 
Good points and excellent post. I give FT a hard time every now and then because I don't think he gives his wife enough credit for being a rare find. All in good fun. He has finally started referring to himself as "lucky," which is how I'd describe any man that's found a good foreign woman they are truly compatible with over the long haul...Filipina, Latina..whichever! Let's face it...when most guys post bad experiences with Colombianas on PL FT's usually quick to follow up with a, "I've never really had that problem with my wife" statement. And I don't doubt it for a second. There are some great gals in Colombia. I would not still be wife hunting there if I didn't believe that. I've even met a few...physically attractive, reasonably intelligent, not insanely jealous, emotionally stable, truthful, not a single mom, has a family that won't start beating your door down for help an hour after the wedding, and even if they do she understands you're not rich and can't save the world. Oh wait a minute...that's my check list isn't it? Well perhaps I am a little too picky. But I honestly believe what I'm looking for is out there and there's no reason in hell to settle for less than that...especially at only 31 years of age. Like you said, I started a relatively young man, so I can take my time. Unfortunately one thing lots of "time" in Colombia gives you is a realistic look at what life and culture truly is there. More often than not, it ain't pretty.
 
I will usually end most of my negative rants about Colombianas with some amendments that mention there are definitely plenty of exceptions. I sometimes get the impression that a lot of newbies come into this with the idea that all their hopes and dreams will come true in Colombia. Some balding, overweight, 50 year old insurance salesman that's never had much luck with women stateside is going to go to Colombia, marry a supermodel, bring her back here and live happily ever after. All this while he doesn't know Spanish, is far from rich and thinks everything on the internet is real. I have met several men like this in Colombia and they quickly realize it isn't that easy at all. You'd be surprised how many guys I meet that don't know PL exists. In actuality a man's experience can be worse with a Colombiana as supposed to the feminist, bad attitude having, biopolar behavior AW alternative that sent most of us searching SOTB in the first place. At least on this side of the border, most of us know where we stand.
 
Think about it like this. I spend quite a bit of time working in various countries of South America. Most Latino guys love American Girls with blue eyes and blonde hair. They talk about them like they're some sort of mythical creature everyone has heard of but no one has ever seen in peson or captured. So when a lot of the single guys (some not so single  ) have the opportunity to spend significant time in the states for whatever reason, they say they're going to find a hot, California Blonde, marry her and live happily ever after. I give them the same type of advice. Just from the other side of the spectrum. Are there hot, gorgeous, blue eyed, blonde girls in the United States that are good women and would make great wives? I'm sure there are tons of them. Are they easy to find? Well, ummmmm. These guys have the same problem a lot of gringos do. Their impression of Caucasian American Women is that they all look like Paris Hilton with oversized breast implants and melt for Latin Guys. That's what they see on TV and in the movies. But we all know that's far from the truth.
 
The most significant difference between us and them is we can usually offer women in Latin America a better quality of life, in addition to being more faithful, stable and committed to a marriage than the average Latin American Man. I've said it before and I'll say it again. As painful as this statement is for some gringos to swallow, I think it is naive not recognize it's validity. If gringos were for the most part poor, and Colombianas were for the most part unattractive women, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. And that my good man, has nothing to do with love or compatibility.

[dennislevy]

Im a newly minted member of the married man s club on P L,
 
but I was also one of those serial daters ... and I met A LOT of Colombian women.
 
Here is something that I learned.
 
1. The potential success of your marriage to a Colombian woman is in direct proportion to the  amount of problems (family problems, emotional problems, etc) that you as the husband inherit. if the man doesnt inherit a lot of porblems and he is reasonably stable, the marriage stands a good chance of working.
 
If the woman or her situation are unstable...it s at best a big gamble.
 
its the same as any marriage, but the probelms get excerbated by the inability or unwilligness to communicate...
 
1.  because neither speaks the other s language well enough
2. one or both may just not want to communicate
 
A man can marry a considerably younger woman and hope he can hang on to her and that she didnt bring too many problems into the marriage. sometimes a young girl doesnt have any baggage.....and that s a wonderful situation.
 
From my experience, most not all, but most gringos dont know enough about the woman,  her past or her family when they marry.
 
sometimes it works out, much of the time it doesn t work.
 
Or a man can marry a mature woman who has had a stable life, not too many if any problems with past relationships. In other words  NO BAGGAGE!!!! 
 
I am almost 59, My wife is 55, has worked all of her life, has lived in the familial home all of her life, her parents are still toegehter after 56 years of marriage and I see my wife s siblings in and out of the family s house every day.  I was the first serious relationship that she ever had.
 
SHE MAY BE THE MOST EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY WOMAN i ve ever known!!!!!!!!!!!!..NO PROBLEMS, NO BAGGAGE...
 
And she s colombiana!!!!!!
 
But most men want to chase women who are much younger then they are and they close their eyes to the problems.
 

[Ray]

He has finally started referring to himself as "lucky," which is how I'd describe any man that's found a good foreign woman they are truly compatible with over the long haul...Filipina, Latina..whichever!

　
I couldn’t disagree more with this way of thinking.
　
I do believe that those guys who think that luck is the major factor in finding a compatible spouse are doomed to failure.
　
While some guys rely on luck, virtually all of the truly successful men rely on their ability to use their minds and their common sense to find a compatible woman. It isn’t really that difficult if you use your head (the big one).
　
For the guys who place physical beauty and sexual "chemistry" at the top of their lists when sorting out the available women, then yes, they will surely need luck to find a good woman who will stick with him over the long haul.
　
Yes, I do consider myself blessed to have found such a wonderful wife, but I surely don’t attribute it primarily to luck. I am not a lucky person, but I do try to use the mind that God gave me when choosing a spouse.
　
If you can look beyond the huge fake boobs, the big bubble butts, the long legs, and the pretty face, and focus more on the inner beauty and true character of a prospective mate, then you have half of the battle won already.
　
Of virtually all the guys I know who have healthy, loving, long lasting marriages, none of them are particularly lucky people. But every one of them has a good mind and knows how to use it, as they did when they evaluated prospective wives and made their choice based on their intuition and common sense.
　
My credentials? First marriage to a foreign lady lasted 23 years, and I just celebrated my twelfth anniversary in my second marriage a couple of weeks ago. And no, I didn’t win her in the Lotto… 
 
 
　
Ray