Rookie young pup here looking for some advice on brazilian women

[andre1986]

Hi everyone, my names Andre', black american,25yo, in seattle... Im a newbie to the game of international love. I have the latina bug and is really attracted to brazilian women. I love the idea of having a beautiful wife one day, who loves being a woman, that values family and puts them before herself, who doesnt try to compete with her man and lets him be the head of the family (unlike AW). Basically im bout sick and tired of AW and their materialistic attitudes. Anyway I have a friend named Lachesis who is from the brazilian city of belo horizante who speaks great english. She was my co-worker for 6 months here in the usa on a work visa. She is now back in her home city as of july 2011. she wants me to make a trip down to brazil so she can introduce me to her close friends that are knockouts as well. I told her that I was concerned about my safety considering I am a gringo traveling to a big exotic country alone, and she told me not to worry about anything and that she will keep me safe from harm. I also asked  her if she could give me some insight on the girls when I visit and noted to her that ive never been around so many 9's and 10's before lol. I guess Im just looking for some good pointers and tips from the guys and gals who been to brazil and experienced the culture

[braziliangirl]

Hi Andre,

First of all, I'm so glad to see someone interested in Brazil at this forum!

Your friend is really pretty. Belo Horizonte is known as one of the cities with the most beautiful women in Brazil. And I've also heard that many of then are single and looking. It seems like it's something going on in the whole country. Lots of beautiful, intelligent, kind women looking for something serious with no luck. Although, as online dating, especially online dating with gringos is not very well viewed here, I can guarantee you the most beautiful and interesting girls are not online. (Except me. haha  )

I'm used to travel alone, so I know how you feel. I remember my first international trip alone had a stop in Caracas, and I had to spend the night in a horrible hotel close to the airport. Even putting the table and all the chairs to hold the door I couldn't sleep at all. BUT, it was Venezuela, I'm a girl and I was all alone. You should be OK with your friend telling where you should go. Belo Horizonte is not known for being a very violent place and even in Rio, if you keep in the right places, you are safe.

You are lucky! I've read some reports of guys going to Belo Horizonte and getting crazy about all the beautiful girls, but they say it's hard to make contacts because they are not very open. You need someone to introduce you to them, and you have it.

I don't know what else to say... I am a Brazilian girl, living in Brazil. So I may have a lot of answer to your questions. Just ask!

I hope Benjio replies to this post too. He is a young guy like you and travels to Brazil a lot. He might even know a thing or two about Belo Horizonte and its girls.

Good look on your search!
BG

[andre1986]

Heyyyyyyy brazilian girl!!!! How are you? Nice to meet you here. Yes ive always always always had a thing for brazilian girls. The day I met her, all the guys including myself were litterally drooling at work. Ive never seen a girl so naturally beautiful in person like this girl. She was friendly and very easy to start up a convo with. Um she had a guy at the time and so I never asked to date her.. We just been good friends since I met her and dubbed her my match.com lol.  May ask what city in brazil you from? I think your pretty cute  from what I can see with ginormous cup u got there lol.



Yes im extremely lucky to have met her. Shes such a people person and willing to help me because I dont knw a stitch of portugese . I registered for a membership on brazilcupid and chatted with about 10 girls and what my friend told me is true. The girls are very friendly, open, NOT SCAMMERS nor ask me for one red cent. But I totally agree withyou. The girls that arent online are the ones to go after 1st. I guess I was just trying to get my feet wet. My friend told me to make a brazilcupid account and see what happens. Um im not a picky guy.. If a girl is loyal, ill cherish her forever!


Lol yes I read benjio's posts and he is hilarious. He reminds me of my older brother. But anyway braziliangirl, I promise I wont be a stranger. Its always nice to be able to make great friendships in other countries:) . Have you been here to the usa yet? I would love to practice my portugese and be amongst the friendly people of brazil. Ive been an airplane cleaner for 5yrs for united airlines and saved up a few bucks to explore brazil sometime this yr. my friend told me brazil can be expensive, but I want to live there in a yr or 2.. What you think?

[andre1986]

Gee, im sorry for your experience in venezuela.. You travel alot? I dont understand how gringos dont need a visa to enter colombia but needs one for brazil!!! but hey, its worth all that and some. I want to find my future wife in brazil somewhere, wherever she may be lol. Im really serious about love and ive jotted down what I want as far as marriage is concerned. I understand the process is a long one but I just wanna be happy and make some great girl happy. I knw im 25 and prolly wayyyyy outta my league here to be talking about marriage and kids and stuff, but thats what ive always dreamed of. My parents help make that possible before my dad passed away last yr. They were married 30yrs. Im confident that my other half is SOTB.  If so many good wife material girls are down there, I wonder what we(gringos) are doing still chasing AW around?

[braziliangirl]

May ask what city in brazil you from?

I'm from a city in the north, very far away from Belo Horizonte (or the most known cities like Rio, São Paulo etc.). But I was born in a college town in Minas Gerais close to BH. Sometimes I like to say I'm mineira (the word for people who are born in Minas Gerais) just to hear the "no wonder why you're pretty" that usually comes next. (It's not because I'm super pretty, it's just that Brazilians are nice.)

I think your pretty cute  from what I can see with ginormous cup u got there lol.

Thanks, but the amount of time I'm looking... Hmm, let's just say I should carry that cup around with me. 
 

I registered for a membership on brazilcupid and chatted with about 10 girls and what my friend told me is true. The girls are very friendly, open, NOT SCAMMERS nor ask me for one red cent. But I totally agree withyou. The girls that arent online are the ones to go after 1st. I guess I was just trying to get my feet wet. My friend told me to make a brazilcupid account and see what happens. Um im not a picky guy.. If a girl is loyal, ill cherish her forever!

I should have said that most of the better ones are not online. I'm sure you can still find someone on BrazilCupid. But of course, as one of the mantras of Planet-Love says, getting on the plane is always the bets option.

Have you been here to the usa yet?

Yes, I've been there a few times. Last month I spent 20 days in California. On previous trips I've been to New York City, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island on a road trip, DC area, Miami and Orlando. Seattle and Chicago are on my list, but I will have to go in the summer, since I almost froze in California's "winter". I'm kidding, I liked the weather a lot. But it took a while to get used since I live in the hottest place on earth.

I would love to practice my portugese and be amongst the friendly people of brazil.

I would love to help you or anyone here that needs help with Portuguese. Also, have you heard of Livemocha? I'm using it to learn and practice Spanish and I'm liking it. The good thing is that there are a lot of girls from Brazil there. And all the American guys I saw there had hundreds of Brazilians added as friends. Once one told me that he joined the site to learn Spanish, but got so many friend requests from Brazilians girls that he ended up getting interested in Portuguese too.

my friend told me brazil can be expensive, but I want to live there in a yr or 2.. What you think?

She is right, Brazil can be very expensive... I don't know ho the cost of living in BH is, but generally big cities are expensive. You should visit first, and ask around. Also, you should do a research on what kind of visa you would need. Micky once told me that for a retirement visa, one needs a monthly income of at least US$2,000 to come here. Which wouldn't provide a really comfortable life here.

[braziliangirl]

You travel alot?

Not as much as I would like to. I try to make at least one international and one domestic trip a year for vacations, and it's been working for the last years. But I can't wait to have someone especial to travel with me.

I dont understand how gringos dont need a visa to enter colombia but needs one for brazil!!!

It's called reciprocity and I love it! Although the process for an American to get a Brazilian visa is much easier than to a Brazilian to get an American one. Here, if you don't live in a city where there's a consulate, you have to travel for an interview. There, you can do it all by mail.

but hey, its worth all that and some. I want to find my future wife in brazil somewhere, wherever she may be lol. Im really serious about love and ive jotted down what I want as far as marriage is concerned. I understand the process is a long one but I just wanna be happy and make some great girl happy. I knw im 25 and prolly wayyyyy outta my league here to be talking about marriage and kids and stuff, but thats what ive always dreamed of. My parents help make that possible before my dad passed away last yr. They were married 30yrs.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, but I'm glad they gave you a good example. I don't think it's too soon to think about getting married, especially if you are willing to take the adventure of finding a wife SOTB. That way you can take your time and learn a lot so you lower the chances of making a big mistake.

 

Im confident that my other half is SOTB.  If so many good wife material girls are down there, I wonder what we(gringos) are doing still chasing AW around?

I'm sure there are still good women in the US, but of course they get taken really quick. I guess most guys are scared of what people will think if they look for someone overseas. Also, it's not easy and it's not cheap. As I told you, it's an adventure, and it's not for everyone...

[benjio]

Andre,
 
Welcome to the board. From what I've read I think BG answered most of your questions very accurately. I'm in Belo Horizonte working right now, and I have three words for you:
   

LAWD HAM MERCY!!!!!!!!

That's all for now. Trip report coming soon. 

[andre1986]

Hey guys I apologize for the late reply. I was busy working as usual... Braziliangirl thankyou for teaching me a new word LOL. I always wondered if theres another nickname for brazilian women.


Yes your pretty! Which brings me to my next question. What is an attractive (MINEIRA) like you still being available? Your definitelt in the "sought after age range" for a serious marriage minded gringo to approach because I knw women my age and unser are extremely childish and immature who dont know what they want.


Hehe that cup is justa antique, correct? LOL that cup must be a lucky companion for you to be carrying around

[andre1986]

Braziliangirl I agree getting on that plane is handsdown thee best way to go. Ive come to understand that most guys are KEYBOARD ROMEOS and will never ever hop on that plane. Me personallt, I need to feel,touch, see, understand, and knw her.


LOL damn girl, I think your american now. Youve been all over the usa. Howd you like it? I promise I wont get offended LOL. honestly in my own opinion , the usa has no culture. People here seem only worried about money, cars, houses, flat screen tvs and 401k's. I remember when lachesis telling me that if she didnt have 2 pennies to rub together, her family and friends still brung joy in her life and made her all the m. ore rich. That really touched my heart.  If every girl in brazil has this mindset about life, then im not walking to brazil, im running LOL!!!!!

[Jeff S]

Hey Andre and welcome. You need a visa to go to Colombia or anywhere else, even Mexico unless you're just visiting the border, it's just issued at the airport when you arrive instead of beforehand by the embassy. Many countries require a previously issued one, China for instance, but not Japan. The rules are the rules. As BC says, the US is probably the toughest, but has traditionally had the worst violators, overstays and such.


Having traveled a lot, I can tell you that doing some research before you go will alert you to not only which areas to avoid, but some of the great places to go and things to see.


I agree with you, BTW - Brazilian girls are great - beautiful, friendly and smart - at least those I know.

[andre1986]

BG, I would love to be your student with portuguese. Um I have not heard of LIVEMOCHA   before, but im definitely gonna check it out. At the moment, im stuck with google translate, trying to memorize some basic beginner sentences, so I wont look retarded as hell when im down there. O ok, yea my friend told me that the cost of living may decrease once a person looks outside of the big cities. dont worry, im gonna go visit multiple times and take in as much info as I can and learn the culture. OMG!!!! Trying to live on 2k a month with an american lifestyle is awful. I make a tad bit over that up here. Well i guess i have plenty of time. I would like to move there permantly  in about 2 years. If i can make it here in the usa where they tax thee hell out of us and even charge us for the air we breathe, then i should be ok down there without living the american lifestyle. I live a simple life, just work and go home LOL


 menina brasileira, god will send you someone great to do everything with! Just aint the same going somewhere eventful alone, isnt it? I have to admit, being single sucks! Im tired of coming home to an empty apartment. This very year, im gonna do somethin about it

[andre1986]

BG, thanks for your condolences mamas, he was fighting diabetes. Yea they were great examples and not only did they raise my 3 bros and i to be great young men, but they also beat/whipped us into great young men LOL. I am soooo for having options other than AW. Im more than willung to take this adventure SOTB to find a deserving bride.

Yes we have some great gringas here, but as u said, they get yanked really really fast. And the competition is outta this world up here. Hell, i could be on a date with an AW and everything would go so beautifully, and then come to find out that right after the date withyou, shes already texting the next suitor whos interested in her and comes home to unread emails from a crap load of more suitors. So um yea, thats pretty much all she wrote LOL. And so from the minute i layed eyes on my friend at work, i knew right then and there that i would never evvver date in america again. Im pretty sold on it. And you know what.... Silly me, because i thought j.lo and eva longoria were knockouts... Well buddy boy, if those 2 latina actresses were in brazil, theyd just be another girl in the crowd LOL

[andre1986]

@benjio

HAHAHA MY MAN (in Denzel Washington voice) LOL
Whats up big bro!!!
Its great to meet you and know you man. Your a crazy kat. Thanks for the pm, im gonna hit you up. LOL@LAWD HAM MERCY.... Yea thats what was runnin through my dome when i met my friend at work, as she walked her little gorgeous morena self in that office LOL.
Braziliangirl did sum everything up. Shes awesome man, what a sweet girl. Hey i love what you wrote at jamies LOL. You had a monster trip report bro bro. Jamie is a really nice person and very very smart. Just wish he had an agency in brazil hehe. I spoke with him on the phn a few times. Now look, im not intetested in colombianas but man are they stupid sexxxxxy! But from all the info ive gathered on this board from following other gringos trip reports, colombianas seem to play too much and a little bit too sneaky for me. In my opinion, they dont come close to brasilieras. I look at this as if it was KOBE VS LEBRON... See lebron is a hot product on the bball court right now, but hes lacking leadership and mental 4th quarter breakdowns and just does little immature antics... But kobe has it all, am i right? Championship rings,an mvp, scoring titles, very high basketball iq, just an all around player... In that sense, in the end, theres too many negative vibes ive seen from colombianas, in trip reports here on pL, that outway the good in these girls.

[benjio]

I think I give a lot of other board members the impression that it's extremely difficult to find a good woman in Colombia. That's definitley not the case. What I do believe is Brazil is a bit more complex and faster paced culture (at least the aspects of it most gringos are exposed to), and for that reason we can relate to Brasileiras easier. Colombia on the otherhand, especially in the Costal Regions of the country, is a significantly different culture in comparison to that of the United States. While good women are easy to find there, most gringos don't take the fact that a Colombiana will eventually have to adjust to life in the U.S. into consideration; and in my opinion some of these women just aren't up to the task. Instead, a lot a gringos allow the beauty and free spirits of Colombian Women to cloud their judgement, and suffer the consequences afterwards. This is no different than choosing a woman in the U.S. Some may ask, "How could a gringo determine whether or not a Colombian girl is going to make it in the states?" The answer: Who the [snip] knows. But I look at it like I look at dating a woman in the states. For example, if a woman buys a lot of things she doesn't need, I can probably safely assume she's not a very good manager of money. I then need to ask myself is this something I can deal with before proceeding with the relationship. A very common reason cited in divorces these days is a difference in financial ideals. One's a saver, the other's a spender.
 
Now let's take a Colombiana that shows absolutely no interest in learning English. I don't think that single fact within itself should be a deal breaker, but it would give me a moment of pause. It shows a lack of a desire to improve upon one's self, an unwillingness to embrace your culture, etc. Women that grow up without a father figure sometimes have trouble understanding the male ego. Some women are emotionally unpredictable because of past experiences, a boyfriend breaking their hearts, being molested while they were young. These are very common traits amongst Colombian Women. So while they'd make spectacular wives, at some levels they would be like your daughter, because you'd have to do so much for them once they got stateside. Your mileage may vary. As FT always states, it takes a level of patience no matter what kind of girl you're dealing with or where she's from. The million dollar question is: How much patience do you have? Then there's some of them that are bat [snip] crazy....seriously!!!
 
What I'm trying to say is no one should shy away from Colombia because of the horror stories. I've never stated that or meant to give anyone that impression. Just be careful, and make sound decisions with your mind, not your heart (or your penis for that matter). The same thing goes for Brazil as well though. Don't think for a second there aren't women that would be a complete waste your time if you're seriously wife hunting. There's not a country on Earth where you can completely escape from bad women. They are everywhere. It's up to the man to know himself, have a good idea of what he's looking for, have the patience not to settle for anything less, and a big fat wallet to hunt for as long as it takes.
 
Colombia is still great wife hunting territory; but right now I just can't get my mind out of Minas Gerais. Welcome to the club! Now hurry up and get that visa because I need a wingman down here in Brazil. There's too many to handle!!! LOL!

[InnocentVixen]

Welcome Andre, I love it that you have a friend from Brazil and that in a way she was your inspiration to start your search and not some actress or model, you already have a huge advantage if she is willing to introduce you to some friends and even more so if you want to move there, to top it off you are young and have plenty of time to look for the right girl, I honestly think you have nothing to worry about.


So all that is left for me to say since I've never traveled to Brazil is good luck... oh and tell you that the term "keyboard Romeo" is sooo accurate, I have had to deal with plenty of those, I am sure BG as well.

[braziliangirl]

You're right, IV. "Keyboard Romeo" was great. Hahaha

[braziliangirl]

Hell, i could be on a date with an AW and everything would go so beautifully, and then come to find out that right after the date withyou, shes already texting the next suitor whos interested in her and comes home to unread emails from a crap load of more suitors.

Sounds exactly like Brazilian guys!

[braziliangirl]

Your definitelt in the "sought after age range" for a serious marriage minded gringo to approach because I knw women my age and unser are extremely childish and immature who dont know what they want.

In fact, no. It seems like guys on my age range (up to 10 years older than me) are looking for the girls your age and younger. If you take a look on this same forum you will see that.

Online, I get a lot of contact from guys 45+, mostly 50+. Maybe they just look at the number, because in person, especially from gringos, I've heard a lot of times that I look younger. So I'm seriously thinking about giving up online dating.

[afj56]

Hey Andre,
How are you doing?  My name is Austin and I'm from Maryland, U.S.A.  I have had the opportunity to travel to Colombia and Brazil.  I definitely haven't traveled as much as others on this board.  I really enjoyed Brazil.  The people of Brazil are very nice and the women as everyone knows are beautiful.  I was a little worried about traveling to Brazil and not knowing Portuguese, but I took the advice of others and just got on the plane and went.  I'm so glad that I did.  The whole experience was great for me.  I went to Rio and Salvador.  I'm an African American and it was thrilling for me to see people who looked just like me, even though most spoke Portuguese.  I am definitely going back to Brazil, possibly Belo Horizonte, Brasilia or Natal.  I study Portuguese on Livemocha and really need to learn the language so that I can enjoy more in depth experiences in Brazil.  Please let me know how you like Belo Horizonte.

[andre1986]

Hi jeff ! How do you do sir? Thanks for the welcome and nice to meet you. I appreciate your great advice on this visa issue. I really didnt know these things. I will be applying for a tourist visa to brazil sometime near june and im gonna extend thee hell outta of that sucker HAHA. Im very excited. I hope my friend and benjio keeps me on a tight leash because ive never evvvver been around 9's and 10's in my life before and so i dont wanna go overboard on this great journey of love. Ive jotted down a library full of things to research for the trip and also read more trip reports from other gringos while reeling everything in. Hey jeff, your married to an asian girl right? Man here in seattle is like little china LOL. So many beautiful asian mixes. They would definitely make suitable wives and mothers just as latinas would, but for some reason Jeff, this darn latina bug has eaten me up LOL. Asian girls are sweet and cute but latinas seem more passionate and super duper romantic. When my friend was still here on her work visa, we would go out bowling with all our co workers and she would take my hand and hold it or hook her arm into my arm.. Now mind you, we were never an item.. I asked her why she did that, and she told me she liked being in my prescence and enjoy my company.. Umm i think i almist fainted LOL

[andre1986]

@benjio

You are absolutely right bro ! You just gave some sound advice and knowledge. While i strongly agree that there are many many great colombianas out there, i just dont know if i can deal with all the headaches and baggage that comes with them. Yes there are bad women in every country and i truly get that, but homie i swear you arent thee only guy on this board whos had mishaps here and there with these girls. Benjio please correct me, but somethin must be true about these girls if most gringos on PL is reporting the same identical problems right bro? I think you and FT is right about PATIENCE ! As men we almost have to have it when in a relationship with a latina. I have alot of it and i try to let god go to work for me in that aspect. But bro, what makes me really really confused about colombianas is the constant lying from them that i keep seein in trip reports on this board. Folks say on here thats its just their culture. Ummm..... NEGATIVE!!! Im sorry, not buyin that. I cannot be with and refuse to be with a woman who was brought up and raised to lie like its no big deal. That just aint right bro. When i heard that its just apart of their culture, i damnear fell outta my chair.

[andre1986]

But anyway Benjio, i think i read somewhere on jamies site about what you were saying about colombianas adapting to a new setting and being too dependent on the guy. In my opinion, if a girl (whether if shes orange, yellow, black , blue, purple, colombian, african or brazilian) does not demonstrate and show to learn the guys language or or is not willing to be  flexible of whar she may become once shes in the guys motherland, then by golly, shes not respecting you at all and you arent important to her. Being molested and getting their hearts broken isnt their fault and i truly feel bad for these beauties. But theres so much a gringo husband or boyfriend can do until hes about had it with her. I do not want a daughter for a wifey. I understand that those traits are the norm amongst these girls. These goddesses are too damn gorgeous to be like this. Can anyone elaborate? But i would still risk it before i bat another eye at a AW. Only if my colombiana is a lie free kinda mamii. BENJIO, im coming broham, dont you go anywhere son LOL. I need your guidance and brothership lol. You gonna be my JAMIE while we down there? Haha jk

[andre1986]

Another reason why i will not choose colombia as a wife destination is because its gringo kingdom down there. Too many of us are in colombia searchin bro and too many of us down there dating anything that has legs. So therefore WHATS GOOD BRAZILLL

[andre1986]

@ IV,
heyyyy senorita , nice to meet you... Thanks for the welcome. I really love it here at PL. how are you maddam? Yea my friend is pretty great. She definitetly had a brotha trippin LOL. she really showed with the way she carried herself, whats really goin on SOTB. A year ago I learned that I had options other than greedy money hungry, career starving, overy assertive AW. I had no idea bout this international love thing. It was really somethin else when I found out that one day I could have me a beautiful, loving, sincere, brasiliera to shower allll my love upon

[andre1986]

@IV,
LOL yea ma, KEYBOARD ROMEOS....
sittin at the laptop everyday alll day and alll night demonstrating your interest in bout 50 women, wasting all that bankroll on a membership every month, when he coulda been on the next flight down to her city, and being that romeo IN PERSON with her... Which is priceless btw I believe its time to 86 those keyboards and get south