In Medallo again - love and not so love in 24 hours

[htown]

Let me get this straight calipro.  You lived with a 20 yr old for a whole year and a half with her parents full acceptance and approval and never asked her to marry you?  Did it not occur to you that her and her family went along with the whole situation believing the whole time that the two of you were genuinely in love and that you were going to marry?  We're talking about a 20 year old, only 2 years out of high school.  (If this poor girl even went to high school.)


If that's not manipulating a poor girl and her family for the sake of stroking your own ego I don't know what is.  That is low low low!!  Wow!


Then after you kick her to the curb this poor 20yr old is probably so devastated and hurt she probably got drunk one night and banged some random guy with the plan of playing head games with you.  What do you expect she's 20 years old, and I'm betting from a poor background.


And you want to pass judgement on the colombiano who knocked her up?  How do you even know that he knows he's the father?


And you attempt to justify this disgusting behavior by simply saying that "oh colombianos treat their women like crap so it's okay for me to do it too".  And this instance is just one example of your shenanigans in your "player/stud" lifestyle that you've been living in Colombia.  I can only imagine the things you've done to these women that you're too ashamed to admit to on this board.


You seriously make me sick to my stomach.

[Calipro]

Let me get this straight calipro.  You lived with a 20 yr old for a whole  and a half with her parents full  and approval and never asked her to marry you?  Did it not occur to you that her and her  went along with the whole situation believing the whole time that the two of you were genuinely in love and that you were going to marry?  We're talking about a 20 year old, only 2 years out of high school.  (If this poor  even went to high school.)


If that's not manipulating a poor  and her family for the sake of stroking your own ego I don't know what is.  That is low low low!!  Wow!


Then after you kick her to the curb this poor 20yr old is probably so devastated and hurt she probably got drunk one night and banged some random guy with the plan of playing head games with you.  What do you expect she's 20 years old, and I'm betting from a poor background.


And you want to pass judgement on the colombiano who knocked her up?  How do you even know that he knows he's the father?


And you attempt to justify this disgusting behavior by simply saying that "oh colombianos treat their women like crap so it's okay for me to do it too".  And this instance is just one example of your shenanigans in your "player/stud" lifestyle that you've been living in Colombia.  I can only imagine the things you've done to these women that you're too ashamed to admit to on this board.


You seriously make me sick to my stomach.

She is the one that left me.... I didn't leave her.

But not only didn't I ask her not to marry me I flat out told her that I wouldn't even consider it...unless the relationship produced a child....which makes her lies even nastier than they already seem.....she knew that I would have liked to have a kid.

Both of her sisters live with guys that they are not married to and both of them have children also.

No way you can justify her behavior nor the guy that knocked her up and left her.

I don't have to justify anything.....she knows, her family knows and I know that she would have been better waaaaay better off if she had stayed with me.

[htown]

She is the one that left me.... I didn't leave her.

But not only didn't I ask her not to marry me I flat out told her that I wouldn't even consider it...unless the relationship produced a child....which makes her lies even nastier than they already seem.....she knew that I would have liked to have a kid.

Both of her sisters live with guys that they are not married to and both of them have children also.

No way you can justify her behavior nor the guy that knocked her up and left her.

I don't have to justify anything.....she knows, her family knows and I know that she would have been better waaaaay better off if she had stayed with me.

Oh okay well that changes things dramatically, not so bad afterall.  Sorry for my judgemental post, maybe I've had too much coffee this morning.

[pontiac]

Hey MT - I am not a new member.  I have been a member since 2007 and I have travelled to many parts of Colombia since the 1990's.  I have also lived there up to 6 months during some years. I was previously married to a Colombiana for 10 years but we agreed to divorce amicably. 
 
I like the country, the people in general and the culture.
I don't understand why you're getting all hot and bothered about men who live with women and marry women who are younger.  If you are really Colombian then you would know that it's typical in Colombia for Colombian men to marry younger women. 
 
If you want to call me names then I'm not going to do the same to you.  It just helps explain your immaturity.  I also don't understand why you want to bash anyone including Calipro or myself.  As I said, I know him personally and he's a stand-up guy.  All you have to do is read his posting regarding his ex-novia who went to great lengths to make him feel guilty of something he wasn't guilty of.
 
In any case, why not just live and let live?  You really shouldn't judge people so harshly when you have never met them.
 

[Jeff S]

The younger guys just don't want the competition from older guys who are statistically better off and often more stable.


Yeah, right now I'm kicking back, sucking a cold one at 2 in the afternoon and wearing my favorite tee shirt....

[Calipro]

Hey MT - I am not a new member.  I have been a member since 2007 and I have travelled to many parts of Colombia since the 1990's.  I have also lived there up to 6 months during some years. I was previously  to a Colombiana for 10 years but we agreed to divorce amicably. 
 
I like the country, the people in general and the culture.
I don't understand why you're getting all hot and bothered about men who live with women and   are .  If you are really Colombian then you would know that it's typical in Colombia for Colombian men to  . 
 
If you want to call me names then I'm not going to do the same to you.  It just helps explain your immaturity.  I also don't understand why you want to bash anyone including Calipro or myself.  As I said, I know him personally and he's a stand-up guy.  All you have to do is read his posting regarding his ex-novia who went to great lengths to make him feel guilty of something he wasn't guilty of.
 
In any case, why not just live and let live?  You really shouldn't judge people so harshly when you have never met them.

pontiac

I'm the one that thought you were a new member.....just looked at your 23 posts and assumed you were....you say you know me personally.....but I still have no idea who you are....let me know who you are and I'll buy you lunch or a beer....which ever you prefer.

[fathertime]

She is the one that left me.... I didn't leave her.

But not only didn't I ask her not to marry me I flat out told her that I wouldn't even consider it...unless the relationship produced a child....which makes her lies even nastier than they already seem.....she knew that I would have liked to have a kid.

Both of her sisters live with guys that they are not married to and both of them have children also.

No way you can justify her behavior nor the guy that knocked her up and left her.

I don't have to justify anything.....she knows, her family knows and I know that she would have been better waaaaay better off if she had stayed with me.

well Calipro, that is a new one coming from you...I've been following your posts for years and years, and never recall you mentioning interest in having a kid with one of your babes!  Maybe I was just didn't see it, or maybe you have transformed your priorities.


It seems to me that having a strong nuclear family would be more difficult in colombia given all the temptation for a guy like you. 


Anywhoo,  good hunting! 


Fathertime!   

[Zon]

for what it is worth ... I am sort of a guy like Calipro.


We both date many women that are attractive and younger than is the norm in the USA.  We are both willing to invest heavily in another place and culture.   And, we both would PREFER to be with one quality woman. 


I have lived a life of EXTREME physical indulgence.  I am almost never tempted ONLY because I have been tempted so well.


On occasion, I have women ask me how they could ever trust me because of the life I have lived.  I think it is a very interesting point.   I am one of the very few men I know who is in rather complete control over my physical appetites, and that is precisely because I have expanded my horizons.  I don't have to wonder, or guess.    You take another man who seems vanilla on the outside, with God knows what going on in the inside  ... who is really a good bet?






[size=78%]We I am sort of a guy like Calipro.  [/size]

[Calipro]

well Calipro, that is a new one coming from you...I've been following your posts for years and years, and never recall you mentioning interest in having a kid with one of your babes!  Maybe I was just didn't see it, or maybe you have transformed your priorities.


It seems to me that having a strong nuclear  would be more difficult in colombia given all the temptation for a  like you. 


Anywhoo,  good hunting! 


Fathertime!

Just letting anyone chick live with you in Colombia....cramps anyone's style here.....which cuts your opportunities down to next to nothing in no time flat.
So yeah you have to pretty much love a chick  to sign up for a program like that.

If she had popped out a kid....nobody would have been happier than me and yes,  at that point....I think it would have been most prudent for me to move her and the  to the states.


And yes I think my priorities have changed over the years....I'd rather have another baby before I die than get married  again. I have two grown children in the states and never got a chance to actually live with any of them when they were growing up as I never lived with either one of their mothers.

[fathertime]

for what it is worth ... I am sort of a guy like Calipro.

 
[size=78%]We I am sort of a guy like Calipro.  [/size]

I was thinking you might post something like this at some point!


No you are NOT!  I have realized that you are constantly internally comparing yourself to Calipro and it is just plain silly.  The humanness has always come out in CP's posts, whereas I simply see forms of denial in your posts and possibly your life!    hehe


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

Just letting anyone chick live with you in Colombia....cramps anyone's style here.....which cuts your opportunities down to next to nothing in no time flat.
So yeah you have to pretty much love a chick  to sign up for a program like that.

If she had popped out a kid....nobody would have been happier than me and yes,  at that point....I think it would have been most prudent for me to move her and the  to the states.


And yes I think my priorities have changed over the years....I'd rather have another baby before I die than get married  again. I have two grown children in the states and never got a chance to actually live with any of them when they were growing up as I never lived with either one of their mothers.

Well the fact is you could probably be an excellent father especially now that you have sewn more oats than a North Dakotan farmer!  Maybe being dedicated to one woman would be more difficult though, for you, especially in Colombia!   I'm convinced a down home family is the best way to travel through life here in the states. Having a young beautiful wife (in the husband's eyes) is icing on the cake!


Good luck,
Fathertime!       

[Fuzzyone]

I was thinking you might post something like this at some point!


No you are NOT!  I have realized that you are constantly internally comparing yourself to Calipro and it is just plain silly.  The humanness has always come out in CP's posts, whereas I simply see forms of denial in your posts and possibly your life!    hehe


Fathertime!

  F.T.


    It is like being the water boy for the football team... yea I am on the football team guys!! I must say Zon sure comes up with some whoppers some time.

[maritime04]

Zon I like the way you completely ignored those questions?  They are very valid points. So I will ask the most important one again.
How would you as man and a father of this 20 year old girl accept her seeing a 47 year old man??
 
Ok Zon so you’re tired of putas and intresadas using you for money and all the shallow things in life. Ok good for you, but then you go on a date with women 27 years younger than you, HOW EXACTLY IS THIS RUNNING AWAY FROM THE SHALLOW THINGS IN LIFE!!!! I call B.S!!!!
This girl might be the next mother Teresa for all I know, I am just asking why you accepted the date in the first place, and why you went on another one, when you say things like I am tired of shallow women and shallow relationships which are all too common in Medellin, Colombia. You really are something Zon, Medellin is full of prepagos and intresadas because that’s what the market is in demand for in poblado, you are the SUPLLY they are simply filling the DEMAND. I am not giving you a guilt trip for dating a 20 year old I am giving you shet for saying one thing and doing another, and not being man enough to except the simply reality that allows you to do those things.
Zon you gave out her credentials as if you wanted to prove something NOT share a special moment, you wanted to say look here I go out with college educated women, who are not barrio trash, she wants to be with me, as opposed to needs to be with me. That’s called making a statement!
Of course it is possible to date younger women in Colombia, ANYONE can do it. I already explained why. Poverty, culture of sex, lack of morals and values of the younger generation and TADA…… guys like Zon are studs!!!
Calipro or “super player-stud leaves the bed wet with women juice” that story sounds straight out of the TRAILOR PARK!! Jajajajaja
Lie with dogs you get fleas;
The truth always comes out, and sometimes it’s not so pretty! I guess life in Cali is not always virgins and shaved peaches and cream.
Honestly did you not expect that type of outcome when you date considerable younger women then you should?
Be a little more honest you do not live with women because after 2 years its Civil marriage time in Colombia and she will have rights to YOUR property, and after that story I am sure you learned your lesson. These women are not just after what’s in your pants but in your wallet... jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaj
When did I ever get hot or bothered about this or that, tell me where I made ANY judgment about who or what anybody dates, married, or screws? YES I know older men are involved with much younger women PLEASE READ MY POST WHERE I EXPLAINED MY THOUGHTS ON THAT!!!! And that’s the problem you guys live in this fantasy land that because you keep in shape and dress in Armani you appeal to younger women when it’s the culture and poverty that are the main reasons why so many older men exploit younger women in Colombia, the argument that it’s OK to do so because 99.999999999999999999% of Colombians do so is STUPID. Colombian men also abandon their kids does this make it acceptable behavior for you as well? Colombian men are famous cheaters is this the behavior you wish to imitate?
That’s why I support wife hunters as opposed to these life-hunters who only wish to be committed to short term relationships with considerably younger women, simply because they can do so. If a man’s goal in Colombia is to find a partner, establish a true relationship and have a family those are morally good goals. Regardless if the live in the USA or Colombia. As I do not look down on those who wish to remain single or date without any intentions of serious commitment, I will call out the Bull when I hear it

[Zon]

One flaw in your presumption.   I have been here for 3.5 weeks, and have not paid for pus one time.    The limit of my debauchery has been to have a girl I have known for years, come to my place for diner.    I doubt she is a woman without "sponsors", but that is life, and I did not question.    Just for [snip]s and giggles I took a fashion model FROM THE USA - A GRINGA -  to Fase 2 one night - did not really care about the women there, did not touch a thing.  While in Colombia, I have had women ask me to spend the night with them many times and I have said no.  You are correct that such things are not achievements but the opposite.(I am far more picky about who I spend time with than you presume.  A pretty face and a fresh piece of ass means little to me)


So, you are free to presume anything you want, and I have never ran away from the moralist and missionaries that would like to depict me as the devil - screw em ... I have done some [snip] that many would not.  no me importa.  I think I am a better man for it.   If you have an itch, you need to scratch it.  But, this idea that I am a rich guy living in the lap of luxury, always using my style, cloths, gifts, and BLING to attract younger women that I do not deserve, and that are not FAIRLY attracted to me ... and then I pay for their time?  You are imaging someone else.


On that issue; I think 85% of the Americanos cruising the places where working girls are pitching their services are fat, lazy, poor, fat, bald, hapless pieces of $hit. They treat women as a commodity like corn or wheat.  They spend their days comparing notes and laughing about how much they got, for how little.   I find them inwardly empty.   They never experience the campo, nature, danger, adventure that other world's offer.   Those things are the passion that I seek, every once in a while a woman gets in the way.   


How would I like to be the 48 year old father of a 20 year old woman who is dating a 48 year old man?     All things being equal, not good.   I would have significant concerns.     How would I feel about meeting the same father IF I truly loved the woman and IF she truly loved me  - no problem.  I would just have to make the man see the truth of things, and accept that.  Que es la vida.   


But, again, there is this constant focus on marriage as a temple - an end in and of itself - and pussy as a golden chalice.   It will take a special woman for me to commit.   So, if I have no special plans, and I am tired of putas, and I meet a REAL person that is 27 years younger than me, that apparently sincerely likes me, and I her, why not go to the movies, a diner, a park.    You act / assume I am spending my time with this person for the express reason to fornicate, manipulate, then defecate.   Why do you assume this?   I have known this woman for 3 weeks.   I have kissed her often, but I have not touched with her cloths off, or lied to her.   She knows I have dated other women while in Medellin.  She knows I think she is special and delicate.   I have shown her only kindness and respect (I think).

That’s why I support wife hunters as opposed to these life-hunters who only wish to be committed to short term relationships with considerably younger women, simply because they can do so.

In the best of cases I think that being Life Hunters and Wife Hunters are not mutually exclusive.   I  do not mind spending time with younger women, I enjoy it.   But, it is only a particular flavor.  As implied in your comments, a better match for a person my age would be 30 - 35.  I am not against this!  I would prefer it.  But, again, I am not on a trip to Colombia to speed date only the women I may meet for the purpose of marriage at the speed of light

[fathertime]

How would I like to be the 48 year old father of a 20 year old woman who is dating a 48 year old man?   
 


 

 Happy birthday you silly old fart! 
 

   They never experience the campo, nature, danger, adventure that other world's offer.   Those things are the passion that I seek, every once in a while a woman gets in the way.   

Before you start commenting on how others don't get to experience adventure/danger...remember that it was only YOU that brought the coterie of bodyguards with you when you first hit Colombia!  I guess the rest of us just went for it!   


Fathertime!

[mambocowboy]

The younger guys just don't want the competition from older guys who are statistically better off and often more stable.


Yeah, right now I'm kicking back, sucking a cold one at 2 in the afternoon and wearing my favorite tee shirt....

and some of these young guys who are judgmental are going to realize when they turn 40 they are still attracted to and prefer younger women, and that there's nothing wrong with that. Heck, JLO and Madonna have boyfriends 20 and 30 years younger than them, and I haven't seen any feminist outrage about that...

[maritime04]

Of course we are attracted to younger women, thats what our culture tells us. Biology has allot to do with it as well, in reproductive terms but i would not underestimate the influence that surrounds us. As to JLO, and Madonna, I think they understand the concept that when the money and fame dissapear so do the boy toys!! Old guys rule as long as the money lasts, Which in my book is OK. As long as your man enough to admit this.

[maritime04]

I made no presumptions about your sex life, or what you do with whom. Only about your intent and mind set, and hypocrisy.
Let me explain this to you as clear as I can I in no way consider you a devil. I can safely say I was once much more worse then you, in my actions and behavior I can confidently say I was never as deluded as you seem to be, and I was very happy with the reality of what I was doing and with whom. ALL THINGS END.
May I ask what exactly do you use to attract these women when you are in a country where you do not speak the language or know the culture? I think those are all the things you have at your disposal, for NOW.
Zon going to a finca party in Cali Colombia w/ narcos for the spoils of women is not nature adventure, certainly dangerous and outdoors but does not qualify as “mountain adventure”; YOU want that life style go climb Everest!! I know many ship mates that do, they jump off cliffs and soar like eagles in search of the danger and adventure that you speak of, THEY DO NOT travel to third world countries dressed like GQ models and have dinner with 20 year olds to find their passion! That is in no way adventure travel. Nepal ok there you go!! Medellin and Cali Colombia, what do you expect people to think? Passion, adventure I am NOT buying the B.S. Zon, I doubt anybody else here does too
WOW you went out with a gringa model in Medellin!!! OMG you must be something special!! Jajajaja
“Marriage as a temple, pussy as a golden chalice”, are you an idiot? Sorry for asking just the reading some of the crap you say shocks me. Marriage in its self is a commitment between two people to share a life, it’s more a beginning to life for two people then the ending that you speak, unless of course you mean an end to multiple sexual partners and social encounters with women vastly younger then yourself, ok if that’s what you mean YES it’s an ending. Jajajajajaja “pussy as golden chalice” hey man it has to have some type of value you for you to be in the porn industry or for you to fly all the way to Colombia for girlfriends!! I would say pussy for you is the golden chalice you hawk at the local pawn shop. Jajajajajajajajaj
Know man I do not assume you are using this girl for sexual intentions, I think you are using this girl to feel younger then you are and boast your ego, that you can still attract a younger women, because she wants you for YOU! That maybe so, but I will not buy it until you have developed an actual relationship and can say I have been committed to this person for some length of time, until then it is what ii is most commonly perceived to be, old horny fart exploiting poor third world girl for an ego boost! Only you have the power to change that perception with YOUR actions.
Nobody is talking about rushing anything and if you actually take the type to studies your peers here they for the most part have had relationships for YEARS!! Before the process for K-1 has started, some maybe only months, but then I do not call that rushing things at the speed of light.
You want to paint a picture of some desperate gringo in search of affection and attention from any women they find physically attractive and that they have a slight interest in getting to know more, I am sorry to say you need only look in the mirror to find such a fool!!

[Zon]

M4 - whatever, dude.  You keep this up, it is you that will prematurely grow brittle and old.
====

Wrapping 3.5 weeks in Medellin, and I have to say that this part of Colombia mystifies me. 

It is a study in contrasts.  It is full of color and passion and life.  There is a growing upper class, and accumulated wealth.  And, the displaced populations up in the mountains seems to grow, and their living conditions seem to worsen.   There is a clear uptick in crime and violence in the city.  The people are friendly, and at the same time most are looking for every advantage.   

I did not have much free time to look up old friends.  I was lucky to meet new people, both Colombianos and foreigners that were interesting and enriching.  I think my Spanish actually became worse LOL  ( I am just joking, there is a tendency here for those learning Spanish to be more picky on each other than is necessary.)   I get by nowadays.  I had a meeting today with lawyers and bankers all in Spanish - not exactly toddler Spanish.   

Women ... God, there are other reasons to come here!   I was not bowled over by beauty here as I have been in the past.  Maybe I am use to it?

My main purpose was project development and photography.   I was able to see many different places and things.    Colombia  is the most un-boring place on planet earth.   Wrap up video of photo event for those so inclined to look ... (the last part was my favorite)

video link here

[maritime04]

I may soon grow old zon, but your already there despite who you take to dinner.:-)

[fathertime]

 

It is a study in contrasts.     

Hey Zonny!  Speaking about a study in contrasts, you made these two statements in the period of one day that seem to contrast each other.

    I was not bowled over by beauty here as I have been in the past.   
 

   A pretty face and a fresh piece of ass means little to me)

So one day you are 'bowled over by beauty' of Colombian women, and then the next day you are are saying how little it means to you.   I say you start being a little more honest with yourself.  You aren't fooling anybody here, beauty means A LOT to you, if not why don't you date and marry one of these Floridian porkers, because she has a passion for life?


Fathertime! 

[Zon]

consistency, argumentation, and composition ...


Over the course of 3 years, or 3 months, or 3 weeks, a person travelling and experimenting will, and ought to, make conflicting observations.  I have used this board as a journal, not a book.   A journal you scribble notes.  A book, you proof and have an editor - you are making a comprehensive statement. 


About this key point.  Beauty, sex, and youth.  There certainly have been times over the past 3 years that I have been like a drunk with sex and sexy.   These things are appetites - sometimes one is hungry, other times one is full.   Obviously, there are many many many beautiful women in Colombia from all shapes and colors.   When I first arrived in several cities, I WAS BLOWN AWAY by the sheer volume of sexy, beautiful women.   


In these days, after a significant amount of travel and experience, I am not like a kid in a toy store.   That is natural, understandable, and a good sign:)  It is also relevant because of some posts that want to depict my current experience as that of a monger / manipulator.  It was surprising to me that I spent much of my time with women from OTHER countries - obviously not prepagos - and nobody comments?   So, again, I need not fool anybody and I am not bragging ... but the hottest little Colombiana does not make me get unglued - ESPECIALLY if she is trying to work me.   And that is the case with 9's and 10's in Medellin 99.999% of the time.


I will say that as my trip came to an end and I pushed TOTAL = I met some very nice and sincere people in Medellin, one exceptionally so.  If I did not enjoy these last 3 years of travel, I would have been a lucky man just to have these last 3 weeks.  So, FT you brought up a point earlier in this thread that deserves repeating - you tend to find that which you look for.  If you hope to find good people, you have to put down your guard and hope for the best.   

[fathertime]

consistency, argumentation, and composition ...


Over the course of 3 years, or 3 months, or 3 weeks, a person travelling and experimenting will, and ought to, make conflicting observations.  I have used this board as a journal, not a book.   A journal you scribble notes.  A book, you proof and have an editor - you are making a comprehensive statement. 


About this key point.  Beauty, sex, and youth.  There certainly have been times over the past 3 years that I have been like a drunk with sex and sexy.   These things are appetites - sometimes one is hungry, other times one is full.   Obviously, there are many many many beautiful women in Colombia from all shapes and colors.   When I first arrived in several cities, I WAS BLOWN AWAY by the sheer volume of sexy, beautiful women.   


In these days, after a significant amount of travel and experience, I am not like a kid in a toy store.   That is natural, understandable, and a good sign:)  It is also relevant because of some posts that want to depict my current experience as that of a monger / manipulator.  It was surprising to me that I spent much of my time with women from OTHER countries - obviously not prepagos - and nobody comments?   So, again, I need not fool anybody and I am not bragging ... but the hottest little Colombiana does not make me get unglued - ESPECIALLY if she is trying to work me.   And that is the case with 9's and 10's in Medellin 99.999% of the time.


I will say that as my trip came to an end and I pushed TOTAL = I met some very nice and sincere people in Medellin, one exceptionally so.  If I did not enjoy these last 3 years of travel, I would have been a lucky man just to have these last 3 weeks.  So, FT you brought up a point earlier in this thread that deserves repeating - you tend to find that which you look for.  If you hope to find good people, you have to put down your guard and hope for the best.

well zonny i'm just giving you crap...it is nice to see that you are finally recognizing that you are a beat up near 50 year old gasbag, just like a lot of us regular people!  it does sound like you are getting better in a lot of areas though.




so what is the new plan?  Going to russia, so I guess we won't see you here for a while....are you going to start comparing all the russians to this latest 20 year old that you are somewhat obsessed with?
well good luck!
Fathertime! 

[Zon]

well zonny i'm just giving you crap...it is nice to see that you are finally recognizing that you are a beat up near 50 year old gasbag, just like a lot of us regular people!  it does sound like you are getting better in a lot of areas though.


so what is the new plan?  Going to russia, so I guess we won't see you here for a while....are you going to start comparing all the russians to this latest 20 year old that you are somewhat obsessed with?
well good luck!Fathertime!

PERSONALLY - It was my birthday 2 days ago, and I am old as [snip]     I can't party like I use to - I get tired at 4:00 AM LOL  The young woman that I mentioned upthread was an unique experience for me because she was soooo innocent - talk about a needle in a haystack - and she opened up to me honestly and sincerely ... it made me actually shift into a MUCH more traditional, responsible male role.   I liked it, and I was very very careful with her.   What she gave to me is something I was not looking for, nor expected.   Maybe it will leave a mark?  But, the age gap WITH THIS PARTICULAR GIRL is too extreme for my well being, or her's.   I am 48, and in this moment I look and act youthful and full of energy.   But, all things catch up with time.   It is not wise for me to expect this calculus to remain static over the next 10 - 15 years.  My face could drop, or my hair could fall out, or I could develop health problems, and then I would be in a SEVERE physical mismatch.    As I said goodbye to her, she kissed me and gave me a tear.  She said, "Please come back to me.  I promise I will become a complete strong woman for you."  In what world do you hear THAT?


Honestly, the thing I like most about Colombia is the life, dance, and atmosphere.  PLUS, it is relaxing to know that I could put ambition and work in a low gear and have a good, solid, happy life.    I really enjoyed with the campo and pueblos over the last month - especially the higher altitudes.   I have invested much time and effort in Colombia... it is clear to me that I could find a great woman that honors and loves me there.  I would enjoy living half the year there. I call Colombia PLAN A.


But, I am going to Hungary and Ukraine for 90 days in April.    I do not know what I will find.    I will be more serious about dating women in my league and age range there, primarily because it will be a one trip thing.  I will be looking for the inward characteristics, not only outward.  (This is something I could not have done without going absolutely flipping crazy over the last several years)  Maybe lightning will strike?   I call that PLAN B.   (and, I am a little confused to why I am even doing this because I DO NOT want to live in Ukraine, and I do not want to meet and marry a woman and bring her back to the USA rapidly.  Maybe Panama is a short term option?   Perhaps this is just an insurance policy against regrets)


If no lighting, I will return to Colombia in late August - Bucaramunga probably where I do not know a soul.  There, I will do what plants do: grow and let nature take its course.

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[size=78%]If no lighting, I will return to Colombia in late August - Bucaramunga probably where I do not know a soul.  There, I will do what plants to, grow and let nature take its course.[/size]

I like this plan.  The consensus seems to be if you're looking for genuine people who aren't shallow golddiggers stay the heck out of Medellin.  Let the party animals and sleazeballs have it.  I'd bet Bucaramanga would feel a bit safer than Medellin too.  Another city that interests me is Cucuta with it's location on the Venezuelan border.  I for one will be awaiting the continuing developments of the Zon saga.