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Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« on: December 02, 2011, 05:54:11 PM »
The news reported today that the Israeli government ran TV ads discouraging Israeli citizens from marrying Americans.  I have only heard of the Philippines doing such a thing.

Has anyone ever heard of Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, or Argentina running ads paid for by their governments discouraging their citizens from marrying Americans?

I have heard of local people discouraging their ladies from marrying American men.  I met many Colombianas who felt that it was not appropriate to meet men of any nationality through an agency.  In Brazil, I met many locals who believed that most foreign men came to Brazil to engage in sex tourism and that included agencies.  So many women are reluctant to use agencies because of both the stigma of sex tourism associated with them and the futility of trying to have a serious relationship with a sex tourist.  But I have never seen any government sponsored promotions saying that Brazilian women should try to marry Brazilian men before turning to foreign, or specifically American, men.

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 06:58:25 PM »
In Brazil, I met many locals who believed that most foreign men came to Brazil to engage in sex tourism and that included agencies.  So many women are reluctant to use agencies because of both the stigma of sex tourism associated with them and the futility of trying to have a serious relationship with a sex tourist. 

You're right. But I've never seen ads like the ones you are describing. Although two years ago there was a big campaign to raise awareness about human traffic, especially at airports. One of the points were about being careful about marriage or job proposals from people you didn't know well.

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 06:58:59 PM »
I'm a Colombian resident and no I've never seen any reference to such a thing.
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 09:23:55 PM »
The news reported today that the Israeli government ran TV ads discouraging Israeli citizens from marrying Americans.  I have only heard of the Philippines doing such a thing.


In the Philippines there are ads reminding folks that the "mail order" agencies are illegal but I have never heard of any anti-American as opposed to anti-Briton, anti-Aussie or anti-Korean ads or laws.

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 11:10:03 PM »
The news reported today that the Israeli government ran TV ads discouraging Israeli citizens from marrying Americans.  I have only heard of the Philippines doing such a thing.

 
Philippines? I have no idea where you heard this, but it sounds like pure baloney...
 
 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 11:39:58 PM »
 
 
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/israel-gets-tough-on-intermarriage
 
 
Are the ads referred to in this article what you were talking about?
 
If so, I think the motivation for this is mostly a religious issue, not a nationality thing. Apparently, some conservative Jews are worried about the decline of Judaism because of intermarriage with members of other faiths.
 
Perhaps some of our Jewish readers could comment further?
 
 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 11:50:01 PM »
Sounds like bullshyt.

However, my sweeties brother works in Quezon city and he routinely talks about the human trafficking issue. 

Its a hot political topic in Luzon.

Seems as though the recent raids in Angeles City are focusing on the foreign bar owners and arresting them and parading them around as "human trafficking" perps and seeking their deportation. 

He says its to make sure Hillary Clinton sees the Philippines actively stopping "human trafficing", sex tourists and the exploitation of women because the prostitutes are "forced" to work in the bars.

Seems the enforcement of these International laws is tied to foreign aid cash from the US. 

That figures.

But I think most of the bar owners are Brits and Aussies.

I was just recently in the Philippines in April of this year, introduced myself as American, and was welcomed very warmly. 

I was in, what most consider, a very conservative province, central Visayas with little if any bars with prostitutes that you would find mostly in the north or Cebu city, so no publicized "sex trafficking" busts going on here.

When I did go out to karaoke or to the discos, routinely I would have at least 5 to 10 young pinays very politely ask me would I take their facebook and introduce them to Americans who were interested in pinays for serious relationships or marriage.

The pinays, ages from 18 to around 25, were looking for specifically for Americans.

So, based on my experience I didn't hear or indicate any official or unofficial issues with pinays marrying Americans.

Also, one of my sweeties relatives is a government official (He has a nice set of fully automatic weapons) and he never indicated any official issues either with Americans, thank god!!   :D

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 08:58:38 AM »
In the Philippines there are ads reminding folks that the "mail order" agencies are illegal but I have never heard of any anti-American as opposed to anti-Briton, anti-Aussie or anti-Korean ads or laws.

Thanks, Jhengsman.  @Ray and @Zulu, Jhengsaman has clarified what I heard about the Philippines.

Ray,

I suppose it can be a mostly religious issue.  Though I would have expected that similar ads would have run in Canada, UK, France, Australia, and other countries.  Why only the US?  In addition, the ads encourage Israelis in the US to marry other Israelis, not Jews generally regardless of nationality.

In fact, (to keep this related to Latins), I have met Jews from Argentina and Brazil but it seems those countries were not targeted for these types of ads either.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2011, 09:01:44 AM by Brazilophile »

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 10:42:01 AM »
only thing i have seen close was in the Medellin airport,signs the govt put up,  warning foreign travelers not to have sex with children and that's got to be pretty bad if the govt has to put up signs.


i have talked to some girls in medellin where their families and friends have discouraged them from dating a foreigner, mostly from USA, Australia and italy but that goes with the reputation they have there now.


i have seen some blogs about locals talking about foreign men and the women they date, wasn't too good but never the govt really saying, dont date a foreign man.




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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 03:36:08 PM »
Yes, I saw a similar large sign in the airport in Cartagena.  Pretty sad that the problem is so big.
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 04:44:59 PM »
Here they have signs like that in every hotel...

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 06:17:35 PM »

I suppose it can be a mostly religious issue. Though I would have expected that similar ads would have run in Canada, UK, France, Australia, and other countries. Why only the US? In addition, the ads encourage Israelis in the US to marry other Israelis, not Jews generally regardless of nationality.

 
We must be looking at entirely different ads because the ones referenced in the article I linked to were put out by the Israeli Govt. on Israeli media and the Internet. And Canadians were targeted also.
 
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The advertising campaign is directed particularly at Jews in the United States and Canada, whose combined 5.7 million Jews constitutes the world's largest Jewish population.

 
It is difficult for anyone to comment on the ads you referenced unless we can see the actual ads. Can you find the news story you heard yesterday and post the print version, or at least a link?
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 07:55:55 PM »

 
It is difficult for anyone to comment on the ads you referenced unless we can see the actual ads. Can you find the news story you heard yesterday and post the print version, or at least a link?
 
Thanks,
 
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I first saw the ads on CNN.  They have an updated article here.   Israel Pulls Ads.  This article does state that these ads also ran in Britain, France, Australia, and other countries.  CNN had videos of the ads yesterday but I can't find them today.  The CNN reporting I saw yesterday only discussed the US.  The article implies that the research behind the ads was conducted primarily in the US on Israelis living in the US.

This updated article has comments by prominent journalists.  The flavor is indeed strongly religious.  It seems the US was targeted because of the large number of Jews and Israelis living in the US and the strong influence Jews in the US have on Israel.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2011, 08:04:29 PM by Brazilophile, Reason: Afterthoughts »

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 02:05:45 AM »
OK, thanks Brazil.
 
 
That looks like part of the same advertizing campaign I was reading about from September.
 
 
 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 11:09:25 AM »
I believe that the ads are targeted against intermarriage with non-jews, not specifically americans, assimilation is a big problem in the USA with the rate of Jew's marrying non Jew's being approx 50 plus percent of all marriages. I don't exactly remember the correct percentage. With the current rate of intermarriage around the world, the jewish population will continue to decline and of course, that is a concern to Israel and Jews in general. 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 11:44:43 AM »
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I believe that the ads are targeted against intermarriage with non-jews, not specifically americans, assimilation is a big problem in the USA with the rate of Jew's marrying non Jew's being approx 50 plus percent of all marriages. I don't exactly remember the correct percentage. With the current rate of intermarriage around the world, the jewish population will continue to decline and of course, that is a concern to Israel and Jews in general.  Dan LV


thats possible, my brother married a lady who religion is Jewish and her whole family is also jewish, lawyers, doctors ect, typical jewish haha, but in her case, her family was happy that she actually  found a desent guy to marry,they didnt care that my brother was not jewish. ohhh my poor brother hahahahah

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 06:26:17 PM »
Mudd,  "typical Jewish"?  that is a pretty worn out stereotype don't you think?  Some of us are actually other things besides doctors and Lawyers.
 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 06:52:50 PM »
nope, not really  ;)

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2011, 04:03:53 PM »
'only thing i have seen close was in the Medellin airport,signs the govt put up,  warning foreign travelers not to have sex with children and that's got to be pretty bad if the govt has to put up signs.'
 
Since the official age of consent in Colombia and most L.A. countries is 14, except Panama where it is 18,
(I couldn't find anything to the contrary on Google, but please correct me if I'm wrong),
What do they consider a child, any girl under 14?
And a slimy sex tourist in Colombia can say: What do you want, she is 14 and no longer a child and the police can't touch him?
Sure would love to hear your opinions.
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2011, 06:21:08 PM »
And a slimy sex tourist in Colombia can say: What do you want, she is 14 and no longer a child and the police can't touch him?
Sure would love to hear your opinions.

The US now has laws that attach to the individual rather than to the jurisdiction.  American citizens and permanent residents are not permitted to have sex with anyone under 18, the age of consent in the US, REGARDLESS of local laws.  There now are several American men who have been convicted in the US of having sex with a minor outside the US.

In other words, the US police CAN touch him!

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2011, 08:16:39 AM »

The US now has laws that attach to the individual rather than to the jurisdiction. American citizens and permanent residents are not permitted to have sex with anyone under 18, the age of consent in the US, REGARDLESS of local laws. There now are several American men who have been convicted in the US of having sex with a minor outside the US.

In other words, the US police CAN touch him!

 
It’s not as simple as you portray it to be.
 
I believe those Americans who have been arrested or convicted under the laws you referenced were arrested for purposely traveling to a foreign country to have sex with underage prostitutes or to engage in child pornography.
 
An American could be legally married to a foreign girl under 18 or have a foreign girlfriend under 18 and there would be no crime in having sex with her just because she was under 18.
 
Also, the age of consent here is set by the individual states and ranges from 16-18, sometimes with age gap provisions. Minimum marriage ages run anywhere from 13 on up with parental/judicial consent. Some states, like California, have no set minimum age for marriage.
 
Ray
 
 
 

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 07:28:17 PM »
In the US there have been substantial changes in the law concerning age of consent, and how to deal with the "to catch a predator" hype in our society.

There is a "perv" witch hunt going on in our country, and we love watching the trainwrecks.

Although it is true that each state has varying statues concerning age of consent, in the last 10 years or so, local attorney generals have come up with a multitude of new "perv" related charges that await you, even if you have minded all of the assorted laws.

These new "perv" charges range from mistermeanors to felonies and all will require you to register as a sex offender if convicted.

So....Touching a minor, taking a picture, using a camera or video device on a cell phone, kissing, patting the buttocks or thigh, texting or sending an image, possessing an image that may be interpreted as a minor and contributing or being an accessory to any of the above can get you charged, indicted and arrested and more than likely some nice jail time as big Leroy's new prison girlfriend.

If you are a teacher or any adult that can be considered an authority figure, then most states have a special place for you in their statutes.

Coaches and Boy Scout and Girl Scout Troop leaders beware!!

So, If you are a risky kind of a guy and you want to bet on your laymen knowledge of the "age of consent" laws in your state, be prepared for one big f*cking surprise when you are arrested for a boatload perv charges like "contributing to the deliquency of a minor","indecent exposure" or "simple assault of a minor" and "statutory rape" if they can sneak that felony in there.

Be aware (and afraid) that the DA's pile on the charges so you will have to plea. 

They know (and you and your lawyer know) that if you go before a jury or a judge (if you are stupid) then you will be simply prepping your tight bum for big Leroy.

You will plea, maybe do some jail time, and most certainly have to register on the perv list and destroy your life.

So....Be smart.

If they are not over 18, keep walking.

Better yet, make sure they are over 21.

Oh yeah.....and if you take your computer in for repairs....Erase all your porn!!

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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2011, 07:54:28 PM »
A grown man/woman should not be engaging in any "activity" with a minor; if they do, then they deserve whatever is coming to them - end of story!!!
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2011, 05:47:46 AM »

These new "perv" charges range from mistermeanors to felonies and all will require you to register as a sex offender if convicted.


 
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Re: Ads to Not Marry Americans!
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2011, 04:25:06 PM »
Ads not to marry Americans? What do you call US day time TV? It's one big infomercial on why a man should not marry an American. I never would.

 

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