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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2011, 11:21:23 PM »
Z_K_G you cant please them all so F*** it. I call my girl my little LBFM all the time. She thinks its funny. She calls me her BWFM (Big White F****ng machine). You have no need to apologize. I walk around the filipines and they call me Kano, and the fils there tell me how they hate our president because he is a N**ger. I hardly think they would all be offended. But again you cant please them all. Thank god we live in the US where we have the freedom of speech so say what you want its your right, even on the internet. That's my opinion.

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2011, 07:36:24 AM »
In fact, I stated quite clearly that my observations were about ONLY my limited experiences, so that there would be no mistake that I was referring ONLY to certain women (two actually) that I had a personal relationship with who were from Manila and CDO.
So your original post was based on your personal relationship with 2 women from the PI cities?
 
I didn't see where you say that it was based on your personal relationship with just two women in your original post - all I saw was:
 
Hmm...

Lets see...(Strictly Zulu's Opinion and limited experience if you are offended...well.... 8) )

Here we go, I've dated-


Re-reading your post, I admitted that I was wrong & mis-quoted you so I apologize for that.
 
In the future, when you make post (s) on that particular subject and refer to ladies from the PI cities we will know that it is based on your personal relationship with only 2 women.
 
I didn't know what you mean by limited experience as everyone definds it differently - for some by their wordings, limited experience could mean 100, others it is 1,000 but for you it is 2. I do not think that we will make that mistake that in the future.
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 07:41:41 AM »
It seems to me people use provinces to describe everywhere but the Metro Manila Area so about 80% of the nation.
Yes, it does seems that way - Manila and maybe 1 or 2 other places and everywhere else are "provinces". You do see that on different web sites.   :-X
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2011, 08:30:08 AM »
Who knows who is right? Going for a stable, decent girl for the long-term is not for everyone. Clearly, many men would rather go with the youngest/hottest girl they can find and cross their fingers they have the winning numbers. 95% of the time they don't and they divorce in under 10 years, but that's several years of sleeping with a hottie half their age.

Jm,

I think a lot of men operate using this logic.  You get a hottie for 10 years, half your age, unlimited rutting, clean house, clothes washed, can't beat that deal.

But at the same time the Pinay doesn't lose on the deal either, she gets to leave the third world (or shack up in a nice crib), have a nice home with aircon, parents get a monthly stipend and after 10 years she can go and find her a hot guy!

In my opinion, I think this type of mentality exists on both sides but you will find more of this dealing with a pinay from Manila or Cebu. 

In the province gossip rules!  Most if not all pinays live at home and they are subject to parental rules and expectations.  Uncle, Aunts, cousins and neighbors watch and report so its difficult for a pinay to wander away from the norm and do her own thing.

Marriage is very important to being a good daughter and most parents seek a beneficial union because they know it will also translate into a secure retirement.

In the city such pressures just do not exist and you find more pinays just having fun and enjoying the freedom of big city life.

It has not been mentioned but the second largest city with pinays is Hong Kong, not Cebu.  In HK You will see the extreme example of what happens when pinays are living the big city life. 

Drugs, Partying, prostitution and lesbianism rule the day in a hedonistic fashion in one of the worlds most populous cities.  Pinays participate quite readily in every aspect and level of HK's seedy side.

A young province pinay with limited if no "big city" experience seems to have a more solid and ethical and moral base will carry that with her.   Closer to their families mean closer to that base and it shows.

Young women in general that go to the "big city", wheter it be Manila, Hong Kong, New York, LA or Vegas will find themselves surrounded by people with low morals, zero ethics and looking to take advantage of anyone and everyone, especially a young nubile hottie!

This type of environment is not where I would look for a potential wife.

Plus, you are less likely to have to deal with a closet thrill seeker, druggie, alcoholic or party girl.

These are, of course, generalizations, so your opinions and experiences my be much different.

To each his own, but based on what I've experienced, give me a province girl every time.
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2011, 10:59:49 AM »
Just for reference.
 
In terms of size:
There are a few cities with a significant Filipino population (outside of the PI) that are larger in land size/mass than HK - Los Angeles & Dubai being two.
 
In terms of population:
For places outside the PI (Stock estimate of overseas Filipinos over 150K) & not counting the USA, Australia, Japan, Canada & the UK.
 
Saudia Arabia 1,159,003 with Riyadh having about 800,000
UAE 609,704 with Dubai having 279,602
Qatar 263,980 with about 200,000 in Doho
Malaysia 243,877
HK 168,550
Signapore 163,090
Kuwait 155,744
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2011, 11:06:52 AM »
ZKG,


I would rather date a girl who has been exposed to temptation and resisted than one who has not been exposed at all.


Fortunately or unfortunately the guys who are married to the hottie for 5 years then divorce are probably doing the smart thing. Once you get into a divorce with a 20+ year marriage it's hell. Just like the guys who over-spend, rack up credit card debt, then file bankruptcy are probably doing the right thing compared to guys who scrimp and save.

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2011, 11:19:44 AM »
Put whatever spin you want on it, but the fact is that you said, and I quote exactly:
 
"Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...lbf machines"
 
And to cover the country as a whole, Filipino city and country women together, ince again here's the exact quote from your post:


>>""Pinay (Filipina)...province girls...shy, basically honest and idealistic good wifey material...""<<
 
"">>Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...lbf machines...sorta like babes in any American city...will tell you what you want to hear...all about the chedda!""<<
 
I'd like to think that you were a little light headed when you wrote that--that you didn't REALLY mean that ALL provincial Filipinas are "little brown f_ _ _ing machines" and I assume readers here (maybe I'm wrong) know that the 'f' in lbf , that as used in conjunction with lb---that the F = 'f_ _ _ing' and it doesn't mean 'facing'.I--and it's just one guy's opinion here, find the below 'apology' laughable--it's really a 'non apology' actually...Quote from: z_k_g on November 29, 2011, 03:26:11 AM<blockquote>Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...lbf machines...sorta like babes in any American city...will tell you what you want to hear...all about the chedda!
</blockquote>All,

I will make my first formal apology and correction for using the slang LBF machine.

It will only use accepted racist insults and put downs that have been pre-approved and used without admonishment.

I was wrong, I should not have used slang or any words that are not pre-approved by certain self appointed pious posters.  Next time I will get approval, I promise.

So, I will correct my post to read:

"Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...some in my experience are prepagos, whores or p4p...sorta like babes in any American city...will tell you what you want to hear...all about the chedda!

That ole bad, racist, insulting word is now gone!!  :o

good Zulu<<<   
You criticize people who found your post offensive by acting persecuted and calling them silly names, while whining that they don't complain about the use of words like prepago and prostitute when they're used in the Latin Forum. In regards to that--uhhh-- 'line of thought' -- I don't think the folks saying you were out of line have a lot of personal experience in the Latin America and besides, it seems that when the guys on the Latin Forum used (use) such wording, they were referring to specific sub segments--social levels--stratas, etc and not making broad generalizations that 'all city girls are this way and country girls are that way'--so I don't think your justification --rationalization really washes clean.   
 
Seems to me like your brain's impervious to change, that you're incapable of thinking that you aren't infalliable.
 
Why don't just you man up and admit like most of have here, at one time or another, that you made a bone headed mistake?
 
Whether or not you MEANT to or not, what you put out there was a nasty racial slur and trying to hide behind what other people did or didn't do doesn't change that. I think Ray, who I certainly don't always agree with, was spot on when he wrote: 
 
>>>Zulu, you can call me names, sling your petty insults, attempt to shift the blame for YOUR bad behavior all you want, but the FACT is that YOU used a derogatory racial slur. 
Assuming that you were simply ignorant and unaware that the term was considered highly derogatory, I simply attempted to educate you after you ignored Robert’s similar attempt to educate you about this term. If I hurt your little feelings in doing so, then that’s your problem, not mine.

 
And your pathetic attempts to justify your behavior by trying to blame me or others for not commenting similarly when others used terminology such as "slut", "whore", "prepago", "hookers", etc., are simply ridiculous. Those are not racial
slurs.
 
Zulu, YOU were out of line so man up, take responsibility for your own behavior, and stop whining and trying to blame everyone else.
 
Ray<< 

 
Lastly--As for your statement, and again I quote: 
 
>>It has not been mentioned but the second largest city with pinays is Hong Kong, not Cebu<<
 
I realize you've actually been in the Philippines for what--two whole weeks out of your life?--but I think you have a bit yet left to learn. After twenty years of being married to one city and then one provincial Pinay, I know I still do....
 
Last time I checked, Hong Kong is still regarded by some as being a nation in it's own right, but even if you want to lump it in with a billion or so mainland Chinese, you might want to check your facts on Hong Kong having the second largest population of Filipinas. I think it has less than Mexico, which doesn't even make the top ten of nations with Filipino populations, world wide.


 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2011, 12:36:16 PM »

Z_K_G you cant please them all so F*** it. I call my girl my little LBFM all the time. She thinks its funny. She calls me her BWFM (Big White F****ng machine). You have no need to apologize. I walk around the filipines and they call me Kano, and the fils there tell me how they hate our president because he is a N**ger. I hardly think they would all be offended. But again you cant please them all. Thank god we live in the US where we have the freedom of speech so say what you want its your right, even on the internet. That's my opinion.

 
Well cooper, you certainly have the right to call your girl any vile names that you wish. That’s her problem, not ours. And that goes for our president also.
 
But you DO NOT have any right to say anything you want on a privately owned Internet forum. Using racial slurs and demeaning or belittling others because of the color of their skin has NEVER been acceptable on this forum. That’s not what this forum is about so get used to it.
 
Now before you respond by claiming your constitutional rights to free speech, here’s some reading material for you:
 
 

http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=557.0  

http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=698.0  
 
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2011, 02:38:38 PM »
All,

Some definitions for the ignorant:

Prostitutes, Hooker, P4P in South East Asia = LBFM, BAR GIRL,
Prostitutes, Hooker, P4P in South America  = Prepago

Hooker = Hooker

Zulu

Zulu,
 
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm sorry...I just can't agree with you on the term prepago. I know very little about the Phils, which is why I usually just read and never post when the country and the women are being discussed. But how much time have you spent in Latin America? How much time have you spent with "p4p" women there? Number one, as I've previously stated, I've never met a girl that was a prepago in Colombia that had a problem with being called that. They call themselves that!!! With pride! They advertise themselves as that. Are you telling me that there's Filipinas out there calling themselves LBFM's? From Ray's explaination of the term I doubt that seriously. There's also a recognized difference between the terms "prepago" and "prostituta" in Colombia in my opinion, but I won't even go into that.
 
Derogatory terms are not what they are simply because they rub a few people the wrong way. They become unacceptable because of their history, the nature of their intention when being used, and how the people they refer to feel about being called those terms. There are tons of derogatory terms I'm sure you'd never use on this board because there's a good chance you'd offend someone. Ask yourself if there was a Filipina from the region you were referring to that frequently posted on this board, would you still have used that term to describe the women from that area. Even though the term prepago is thrown around this forum quite a bit, no one here would ever use the term to describe the women of an entire region of a country.
 
I'm the last to judge anyone, but I think you're missing the point here.

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2011, 02:43:47 PM »
 
 
Excellent points benjio!
 
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2011, 02:57:35 PM »
RA, in Zulu's mind whatever he say is fact & as he always say - his opinion.
 
He first said city girls then change it to some city girls and then he said that it was only 2 city girls.
 
Seeing the way thing was heading, I decided to apologize and move on.
 
He then went & made the post about HK being the 2nd largest city with Filipinas (not Cebu). Cebu City have a population of over 822, 000 people and if we assume that only 25% are filipinas - that would still be more than the filipina population of HK. I also posted figures for other places with greater filipina population than HK.
 
Now assuming that he would say he was talking about size and not population - I named 2 cities with a significant population that are bigger in size than HK.
 
Well, we have to wait and see what he mean (land size, population or something else) because we do not want to mis-qote him again.  :-X
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2011, 03:00:05 PM »
All,

Some definitions for the ignorant:

Prostitutes, Hooker, P4P in South East Asia = LBFM, BAR GIRL,
Prostitutes, Hooker, P4P in South America  = Prepago

Hooker = Hooker

Zulu

 
Speaking of ingorant!
 
 
By your continued use of this derogatory racial slur, you are only reinforcing the fact that you are completely ignorant about it's meaning and use.
 
Your continued pathetic attempts to redefine the term in order to justify your bad behavior is further evidence that you just don't get it and that you never will.
 
I realize that you feel some need to always be right, but your feeble attempts to justify this vile pejorative are making you look like a complete ass. And that is a FACT you can bank on.
 
I think it's about time for you to put a sock in it and get over yourself.
 
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2011, 03:53:59 PM »
Correction noted for HK population.

As far as the hypocrites and liars are concerned, whatever.

The heart wrenching full definition of LBFM was a good try- but Slang, most of the time is never complementary or positive so whats the point in the long drawn out emotional definition?

It sounded like it came from a PC dictionary, what a joke.

If we were to spend our time providing left wing etymology lessons no post would escape unscathed. 

Anyways, my post clearly states my intent, I was talking about my experiences, and never included ALL pinays.

Hmm...

Lets see...(Strictly Zulu's Opinion and limited experience if you are offended...well.... 8) )

Here we go, I've dated-

Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...lbf machines...sorta like babes in any American city...will tell you what you want to hear...all about the chedda!

These are observations from INDIVIDUAL women, your mileage will vary!!

Now, the context of "city girls...lbfm...." are the ones I've had experience with, this is explicit.

I continue to say that "they tell you want you want to hear and they were all about the money."  All the context of my experiences.

My other posts simply clarified my first post, but the liars now say that I have altered something and tried to change it and clean things up.  Pure Poppycock.  There are no changes.

Robert you are creating and perpetrating a complete lie and you know it.

There is no need to relate how long I've been in the Philippines because you know that has nothing to do with what I wrote.  I was relating my experience just like benjio in his post.

Its a nice stab at me, but I got pretty thick skin, not much of a distraction I'll stay on point.

Lies....

I have never made any sweeping statement about city pinays being LBFM's, prostitutes or bar girls and that's clear and you know that, but you continue with the lie.

...and hypocrites.

Other members have used the term prepago, a derogatory racial slur, which is specific to LA and means prostitute, you have never made an attempt to correct them.

You and the other hypocrites still haven't said a peep...

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2011, 04:48:59 PM »
 
 
Quote
Ask yourself if there was a Filipina from the region you were referring to that frequently posted on this board, would you still have used that term to describe the women from that area.

 
In fact we do have female members from the areas he is ranting about and other members have wives/fiancees from those cities.
 
 
But you are wasting your breath on this guy. He doesn't care who he insults with his ignorant opinions. His opinions are not based on his personal experiences as he proclaims and he hasn't even been to most of those cities.
 
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2011, 04:53:02 PM »


This is getting ridiculous.  Any further posts using the term LBFM in any context will be deleted and the poster will get a nasty-gram warning.  Consider this the last usage of that term.


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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 05:25:13 PM »
Likely Bob's Finally Mifffed ::)
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2011, 11:29:52 AM »
Bob

This entire discussion was unnecessary, overblown, exaggerated and useless and should have ended a long long time ago.

Robert purposely and maliciously misquoted and misstated what I wrote. 

I will not allow him or anyone else to perpetrate a complete LIE about my words or intentions so I responded.  I'm sure you would do the same.

Further, using one obsolete slang word doesn't warrant the type of attack that was coordinated; it was overkill, and any objective person can see that.

But once again, I was compelled to respond to that malicious attack also, I will not let any of that garbage stand as the last word.

No response implies guilt, and the only thing I'm guilty of is a poor choice of words (using obsolete slang) which I admitted, I never made any negative or disparaging remarks about any race or ethnic group (pinay city girls) as a whole.

Based on my limited experience, I called it like I saw it and used what I felt was the best word for it, period.

So, unfortunately, all this back and forth was not pretty, but necessary. 

Why?

Because some of our esteemed long time poster thought that if they "gang up" and interpret my post in the most negative and illogical fashion possible then they would render my opinion as useless as the rantings of a foolish, inexperienced and vile mouthed person.

Well, they ganged up on the wrong person. 

I can handle myself, so bring it on, because its easy to fight a lie, just tell the truth.

Finally, Kunya Ray I respect your opinion as an elder and value your council but I don't agree with you and you don't know what you are talking about.

Good decision Bob,

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2011, 03:26:53 PM »
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Bob

This entire discussion was unnecessary, overblown, exaggerated and useless and should have ended a long long time ago.

Robert purposely and maliciously misquoted and misstated what I wrote.

I will not allow him or anyone else to perpetrate a complete LIE about my words or intentions so I responded. I'm sure you would do the same.

Further, using one obsolete slang word doesn't warrant the type of attack that was coordinated; it was overkill, and any objective person can see that.

But once again, I was compelled to respond to that malicious attack also, I will not let any of that garbage stand as the last word.

No response implies guilt, and the only thing I'm guilty of is a poor choice of words (using obsolete slang) which I admitted, I never made any negative or disparaging remarks about any race or ethnic group (pinay city girls) as a whole.

Based on my limited experience, I called it like I saw it and used what I felt was the best word for it, period.

So, unfortunately, all this back and forth was not pretty, but necessary.

Why?

Because some of our esteemed long time poster thought that if they "gang up" and interpret my post in the most negative and illogical fashion possible then they would render my opinion as useless as the rantings of a foolish, inexperienced and vile mouthed person.

Well, they ganged up on the wrong person.

I can handle myself, so bring it on, because its easy to fight a lie, just tell the truth.

Finally, Kunya Ray I respect your opinion as an elder and value your council but I don't agree with you and you don't know what you are talking about.

Good decision Bob,

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« Last Edit: Today at 11:23:43 AM by z_k_g »

 
What a load of whiny BS!
 
Zulu, when you or anyone else uses vile, disgusting, racial slurs to belittle Filipinas on this forum, you should expect a response. The response that you got was civil and appropriate for someone such as yourself with almost no experience in the Philippines and obviously with no knowledge of the real meaning of what you were posting.
 
But you completely ignored the advice of others that knew the meaning of that garbage and you continued to repeat it over and over again, while making stupid personal attacks, replete with childish name-calling, on anyone who disagreed with your using such racial slurs on this forum.
 
And now you are crying about being attacked? You make me laugh! You brought on the criticism with your arrogant, ignorant, attempt to rewrite history in your own mind.
 
And now you claim that I don’t know what I am talking about?? Well Mr. Know-it-all, I will gladly match credentials with you any day. I was living and working in the Philippines when you were still crawling around in your diapers and shytting green sonny, so don’t you dare try to claim superior knowledge to me on this topic.
 
I was in the Philippines when your favorite little racial slur became popular and I know EXACTLY what it means, and it is nowhere near your phony made-up definition that you posted. I don’t have garbage like that in my vocabulary but I have heard it enough to know exactly what those people meant when they said it. It refers to ALL Filipinas so you better listen up good son before you ever use that phrase again in the presence of Filipina ladies or their male family member.!
 
The people who use those kinds of hurtful racial slurs run the range from racists, bigots, insensitive bafoons, to feeble minded morons. I’ll let you pick the one that fits your case. If you were a young sailor working for me and used racial slurs like that, you would be busted down to an E-1 in a heartbeat and find yourself chipping paint and cleaning urinals every night for a long while.
 
Ray
 

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2011, 03:37:17 PM »
Ray,

Your last post shows that you are an angry old man with a limited vocabulary.

I feel sorry for you.

Zulu
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2011, 05:49:07 PM »
Alright, after careful analysis, here is my take on it.
This entire tempest in a tea pot started with the post:
Hmm...

Lets see...(Strictly Zulu's Opinion and limited experience if you are offended...well.... 8) )

Here we go, I've dated-
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Pinay (Filipina)...city girls...*the term that shall not be used*...sorta like babes in any American city...will tell you what you want to hear...all about the chedda!

These are observations from INDIVIDUAL women, your mileage will vary!!

ALWAYS TRUST........BUT VERIFY!!

Now, that was within a topic that was specifically asking for broad sweeping generalizations.  So it was quite reasonable, within the context of the topic as a whole, that Zulu was painting city girl pinays with a brad brush.  But that is not what he said.  Within the context of his post alone, he clearly stated that he was referring to individual girls he had dated.  In other words, the only pinay city girls he ever dated were*the term that shall not be used*.  But he has repeatedly stated that he does not believe that all pinay city girls are such.  Still, he has agreed that the term is offensive, it was wrong of him to use it, and he agreed to not use the term again.  I hoped that would settle it, but this just kept on going.  Yeesh.

Zulu, the guys here on the Asian Board are not hypocrites.  They are chauvinistic.  Say what you will about any other country, but they are exceptionally loyal and defensive about their wives' and GF's countries, and become quickly offended by any hint or implication by anyone that their ladies come from a less than desirable place of unwholesome people.  That's been a long-standing culture on this board going back to when Patrick started it.  Surely you must see that.  So when you saw the guys getting exceptionally defensive about their misunderstanding of your post, you didn't need to bristle your quills and get defensive also.  Robert wasn't lying about your post.  He was misunderstanding the nuance based on the overall context of the topic at large.  For the last couple of days, I also thought you were painting pinay city girls with a brad brush too.  It's only when I went back to pick apart what you really said did it finally all click, and I could see what you said and didn't say.  So next time this happens, please, take the time to calmly make a clarifying post.  You could state, No, I'm not saying all city girls are easy.  I'm referring specifically to the two girls from Manila I met once in New Jersey, Francine and Michelle (names changed to protect their privacy).  I'm sure there are plenty of nice wholesome girls in that city, but these two were most definitely *the term that shall not be used*.
And that would have been the end of it.

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2011, 11:21:38 AM »
All,

Certain P-L member are hypocrites, plain and simple, well...maybe not, I may be wrong....maybe.

First off, I find it simply amazing that I make a personal statement about my experience with certain pinays that were prepagos, ie sluts, bar girls, cam girls, etc and by calling them "lbf manchines", and now, I have now insulted ALL PINAYS!!

SIMPLY AMAZING!

Further, these same potential hypocrites, who diligently read every post, are completely SILENT when Colombianas are called prepagos ie hookers, whores, call girls, sluts, etc.

The fact is, I don't have an issue with standards and ethics, that's a good thing.

But, lets EVERYONE live up to those standards and ethics and not arbitrarily impose some ridiculous standard on posts you just don't like.

So, If that's the case then using the word "prepago" to describe a LA prostitute, whore or P4P slut should be considered and insult to all Colombian women, right?

Why? Because it's a pejorative specific to LA for hispanic female similar to the term "lbf machine" is a slang term specific for SE asian hookers and bar girls.

Seemingly, these members have never seen or met a "prepago", bar girl or hooker in the Philippines, I guess I been hanging with the wrong crowd.

Not! :o

I submit that certain members have self appointed themselves as the lofty pious representatives of the Philippines and if you relate any of your experiences or reality that disagrees with their "sanctioned truth" you get cut down viciously. 

This can be easily proven...bear with me.

In a recent post entitled "Prepago to the Max" this racist derragatory word, "prepago" was used over 300 times.

In my post I used the the pejorative "lbf machine" once.

In response to that singular utterance, an esteemed longtime poster wrote;
 
 "Just because a racial slur is common knowledge, that doesn’t mean it is OK to use it on an open forum."
 
 Oh, is that right?

Hmm... Well, I am now waiting on the P-L pious few (word police) to do their civic duty and chastise the despicable Latin P-L posters who would dare use the "prepago" pejorative here, they should be ashamed of themselves for posting that garbage here.

This is an excellent opportunity to admonish the guilty on the Latin board and live up to the obvious high standards and ethics that you espouse.

Or maybe we have a few hypocrites in hiding who have just been exposed.....

Zulu


  I lived in Hawaii for 3 years and I never used that term. It is a very insulting term and to use it because you have heard others say it is well horrible. I know certain names that people call hispanic people that I never use. It is just not cool and what the heck is wrong with you!

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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2011, 03:05:12 PM »

  I lived in Hawaii for 3 years and I never used that term. It is a very insulting term and to use it because you have heard others say it is well horrible. I know certain names that people call hispanic people that I never use. It is just not cool and what the heck is wrong with you!

Fuzzy,

Read Bob's last post on this thread.

This issue is a non-issue and as far as I am concerned really closed.

There is nothing left to explain, discuss etc.

Zulu
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2011, 08:57:11 AM »
ZKG,
 
As much as you might want otherwise regarding this unsavory topic, Fuzzy's entitled to state his opinion. You continue to be in a distinct, yet vocal minority as to whether your remarks are racist and as such, offensive.
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Re: Pinay City girls
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2011, 10:29:25 AM »
are you guys done ? i'm running low on popcorn  :o
 
 
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Re: Pinay City girls
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2011, 10:57:00 AM »
ZKG,
 
As much as you might want otherwise regarding this unsavory topic, Fuzzy's entitled to state his opinion. You continue to be in a distinct, yet vocal minority as to whether your remarks are racist and as such, offensive.

Robert,

I have admitted as much.

So, there is no reason to continue with this issue.

Zulu
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