Prepago al Maximo

[Calipro]

After some serious thought I'm not going to post her picture here. Although I thought it might give everyone an idea of the kind of beauty I was speaking of, and subsequently justify the attitude I had at the beginning of this little adventure, at this point how physically attractive my friend is holds no bearing whatsoever on what this thread has evolved into. I'm also still talking to this woman and have gained a level of respect for her.
 
And just to get this out of the way, Cali, I did not start this thread to entertain. I've been told my writing style is entertaining by many people. But all I'm really ever trying to do is give the reader an accurate rendition of a personal experience. I think if you knew me personally and had an idea of what brought me to this point in my life, your opinions in terms of my dating exploits would probably be a lot different. I may take you up on your offer to show me around Cali, because I miss that city a lot!!!
 
As much as we all know how detrimental it can be to making an accurate judgement of someone's character, we all "judge a book by it's cover" once in a while. It's human nature. Even more so in a place like Colombia, where IMHO the people are just more cut and dry. Colombianos are usually exactly what they seem to be. It's not like here in the states, where you'll run accross a millionaire in old cargo shorts with holes, a faded T-Shirt and flip flops having a value meal at McDonald's (something I saw just yesterday). There's such a stigma on lower social and econmomic classes in Latin America, a significant part of being considered one of the elite depends on your ability to seperate yourself from those that aren't as fortunate as you. When someone in Colombia is rich, you know it. There's no mistake. Even as foreigners we know it. What's even more saddening is the fact that being born poor further eliminates almost any opportunity one might have had to improve upon their quality of life. There are thousands of rags to riches stories in America...in Colombia, they are only fairy tales that very rarely come true. I've made a friend that has lived a fairy tale her entire life. An although I don't completely buy her explanation of why all her boyfriends have been financially well off, I realize that on some level most of us enclose ourselves in the expectations of society. Movie stars date movie stars because that's what they're expected to do. I seriously doubt they never run across everyday people they're interested in.
 
This girl is definitley not a prepago and I'm convinced of that now. I've known prepagos. They don't answer the phone whenever you call because sometimes they're with clients. They certainly don't call you on their own dime because they enjoy speaking to someone about U.S. Politics, Economics, Finance and World History. They don't speak fluent French, and they don't study English for hours everydaty to become exceptional speakers and writers. I, as we've all done at some point, judged a book by it's cover.
 
As hard as it is for me to admit, I now have to agree with Fathertime on some levels in respect to foreign dating. He's expressed on numerous occasions that an attitude of trust and patience when initially meeting and getting to know a foreign girl is usually more advantageous than one of suspicion and distrust. My experience has taught me that there are definitely A LOT of women in Colombia that want to take advantage of gringos, but I think it's counterproductive to initially assume every Colombiana is one of those types as supposed to the contrary. I've recently admitted to myself that if it were more likely for me to encounter these "users" and "prepagos" more often that normal Latinas looking for love, I wouldn't be "wife hunting" in Colombia in the first place.
 
One of the things I've enjoyed more than anything else during my travels to Latin America is meeting new people and being exposed to points of views that are entirely different from my own. My experience with this young lady has definitly been that and so much more. I honestly regret calling this thread what I did, because I'm sure that's not what this woman is....whether you all choose to believe that or not. If I don't take anything else from this, I've learned two things: to approach every single one of these situations with an open mind, as none of us have an idea of what we stand to lose by making assumptions. And that Colombia has so much more to teach me, just when I thought I knew everything about that wonderful country.
 
Happy Hunting Gents.

Wow!!! Great post.....I wish you the best of luck with your girl....she sounds like a catch.

[z_k_g]

Upon reflection, I have had several "flings" with younger American women over the last 3 years.  I dated a 32 year old bar tender at a strip club in Tampa a year back ...  Then there was that one night in a place called a "dungeon" (none of these are relationships, and certainly nothing I would want my mom to find out about

Zon......
 
You consider going out with any woman that works at a whorehouse.......A DATE? 
 
Hey....I got this really nice used Bridge I'd like to sell ya and some great beachfront property in Arizona you might be interested in!!   
 
Zulu

[z_k_g]

I'm also still talking to this woman and have gained a level of respect for her.

Translation: This chick is hot and she actually might like me
 

And just to get this out of the way, Cali, I did not start this thread to entertain. I've been told my writing style is entertaining by many people. But all I'm really ever trying to do is give the reader an accurate rendition of a personal experience.  As much as we all know how detrimental it can be to making an accurate judgement of someone's character, we all "judge a book by it's cover" once in a while. It's human nature. Even more so in a place like Colombia, where IMHO the people are just more cut and dry. Colombianos are usually exactly what they seem to be. It's not like here in the states, where you'll run accross a millionaire in old cargo shorts with holes, a faded T-Shirt and flip flops having a value meal at McDonald's (something I saw just yesterday). There's such a stigma on lower social and econmomic classes in Latin America, a significant part of being considered one of the elite depends on your ability to seperate yourself from those that aren't as fortunate as you. When someone in Colombia is rich, you know it. There's no mistake. Even as foreigners we know it. What's even more saddening is the fact that being born poor further eliminates almost any opportunity one might have had to improve upon their quality of life. There are thousands of rags to riches stories in America...in Colombia, they are only fairy tales that very rarely come true. I've made a friend that has lived a fairy tale her entire life. An although I don't completely buy her explanation of why all her boyfriends have been financially well off, I realize that on some level most of us enclose ourselves in the expectations of society. Movie stars date movie stars because that's what they're expected to do. I seriously doubt they never run across everyday people they're interested in.

Translation: I'm an Idiot she may one day read this post so I gotta clean up this shyt quick!
 

This girl is definitley not a prepago and I'm convinced of that now. I've known prepagos. They don't answer the phone whenever you call because sometimes they're with clients. They certainly don't call you on their own dime because they enjoy speaking to someone about U.S. Politics, Economics, Finance and World History. They don't speak fluent French, and they don't study English for hours everydaty to become exceptional speakers and writers. I, as we've all done at some point, judged a book by it's cover.

Translation: I really hope she never reads this, yes I'm an idiot
 

As hard as it is for me to admit, I now have to agree with Fathertime on some levels in respect to foreign dating. He's expressed on numerous occasions that an attitude of trust and patience when initially meeting and getting to know a foreign girl is usually more advantageous than one of suspicion and distrust. My experience has taught me that there are definitely A LOT of women in Colombia that want to take advantage of gringos, but I think it's counterproductive to initially assume every Colombiana is one of those types as supposed to the contrary. I've recently admitted to myself that if it were more likely for me to encounter these "users" and "prepagos" more often that normal Latinas looking for love, I wouldn't be "wife hunting" in Colombia in the first place.
 

Translation: If I admit I'm an idiot when she reads this, all will be forgiven, I hope......damn i screwed up
 

One of the things I've enjoyed more than anything else during my travels to Latin America is meeting new people and being exposed to points of views that are entirely different from my own. My experience with this young lady has definitly been that and so much more. I honestly regret calling this thread what I did, because I'm sure that's not what this woman is....whether you all choose to believe that or not. If I don't take anything else from this, I've learned two things: to approach every single one of these situations with an open mind, as none of us have an idea of what we stand to lose by making assumptions. And that Colombia has so much more to teach me, just when I thought I knew everything about that wonderful country.

Translation: I'm an Idiot
 

Happy Hunting Gents.

Translation:  I'm an Idiot in Love!  I found me one!!
 
Benjio,
 
I hope you can appreciate my poking some good natured FUN at you.
 
This babe is super hot and she likes you, A LOT, is that such a shock?
 
As I predicted earlier, you may end up marrying this babe.
 
Guys, You can't make this kinda SHYT UP!!   
 
I predict wedding bells, anybody want do some friendly wagering on this one?
 
Zulu
 
 

[benjio]

Translation: This chick is hot and she actually might like me
 Translation: I'm an Idiot she may one day read this post so I gotta clean up this shyt quick!
 
Translation: I really hope she never reads this, yes I'm an idiot
 Translation: If I admit I'm an idiot when she reads this, all will be forgiven, I hope......damn i screwed up
 Translation: I'm an Idiot
 
Translation:  I'm an Idiot in Love!  I found me one!!
 
Benjio,
 
I hope you can appreciate my poking some good natured FUN at you.
 
This babe is super hot and she likes you, A LOT, is that such a shock?
 
As I predicted earlier, you may end up marrying this babe.
 
Guys, You can't make this kinda SHYT UP!!   
 
I predict wedding bells, anybody want do some friendly wagering on this one?
 
Zulu

Zulu, no problem with your "fun poking." On the contrary, I stand my previous statement that me and this woman will never be more than friends. I'm am someone that will admit when I'm wrong though, and I'm use to the backlash that comes with that...like being called an idiot. But do you actually think I wouldn't mention this thread or its content to her before suggesting she join this board?! Go back and see the date where I mentioned I invited her to join, and read all my statements after that. Guess you really do think I'm an idiot. Here's another question for you Zu, why exactly would you assume she hasn't read all of this already?    Because of what I'm writing? Did it ever occur to I invited her so she could make a case for the fact that there are women like her and we shouldn't all assume they're prepagos. As far as the picture thing goes, again...I mentioned posting her picture AFTER I mentioned inviting her to join...do you think I'm idiotic enough to do that with running it by her. Perhaps she's done some modeling before and her pictures are already all over the internet, so she wouldn't give a damn either way. Ever consider that? A lot of assumptions were made during this thread that I won't entertain with explanations because like I said, I do have a level of respect for the person we're talking about at this point.
 
I just want everyone to keep in mind, this chick ain't like anyone I ever met in Colombia, or the U.S. for that matter. Wedding bells?!!! Not a chance. I like simple house wives and mothers. The apron type. For a girl like her, I would have never hopped on the plane leaving the U.S.

[z_k_g]

Benjio,
 
You're a good sport.
 
Zulu

[dennislevy]

I do think you have to be patient and show a colombiana some latitude when you meet face to face.
 
BUT there is a balance between doing that and deciding (by using your parameters) how much time and money to invest in a woman and what ARE the reasons you re willing to do that.
 
The woman that Benjio met was very direct about her attitudes toward realtionships and love. When a woman in my dating age pool tells me that she doesn t believe in love, it s because she feels that she has been hurt SO badly...for whatever reason......that she can t let herself trust a man again.....  Once I confirm that it was something from her past-----I have to respect that, and I m gone.
 
Benjio s amiga said she doesnt believe in love....or monogamy............. it might be revealing for you Benjio to know WHY she feels that way in whatever case, 1. you want to maintain a platonic friendship  2. you want to take a shot at sleeping with her.   
 
But, you mentioned something about thinking she had daddy issues---if you have t already gone there in the conversations with her, and you want to do it........then TREAD LIGHTLY
 
The point about judging a book (woman) by its cover is well taken. But we have to have SOME basis on which to evaluate a woman and how we fit with her. We CAN T give EVERY woman three dates and a lot of colombianas arent going to give a man even two dates! They are MUCH less patient!
 
Finally, if a latina speaks decent to perfect English, they aways look better to most American guys who dont speak Spanish ....but its an affect, it s not reality .....  I think that if a man can speak Spanish (as Benjio does) and he can go back and forth wth a woman in both languages, he s got a much better chance to make a more realistic evaluation
 
 
     
 
 

[fathertime]

 
As hard as it is for me to admit, I now have to agree with Fathertime on some levels in respect to foreign dating. He's expressed on numerous occasions that an attitude of trust and patience when initially meeting and getting to know a foreign girl is usually more advantageous than one of suspicion and distrust.

 


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

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Well I admit that my Spanish studies have not been as fast as I would have liked.  But, it is a progress.  Besides, I am partying much less nowadays.  You are thinking about the "old me"   Perhaps I am changing my tackle and priorities afterall.
 

In my opinion that would be a step in the right direction and put you in a better position to meet  the type of woman that it appears you would like to. 

Mari
First off, I did not leave the USA until I was 42 years old.  So, what i found abroad was and is very exciting and fresh to me.  What did I find about the Latin American culture that was so positive?  "The Ability to Live in the Moment"

The things "I LIKE" about the culture are rather selfish:  1, A more relaxed living environment.  2, As a gringo, we all enjoy an elevated social status - business and political.   Introductions come easy, and anything is possible. 3, A wider (different) range of life design - where and how to live; secretary, travel options on the weekend.  4, Obviously, one's dating life is greatly improved.

Personally I would rather live in the USA as a married man...I like the comforts...Colombia is fine for a vacation but living there everyday doesn't sound as appealing unless I was out in the back country somewhere and I did not have to concern myself with any sort of crimes against me and my family.  I do like the notion of having inexpensive 'servents' which is more of a reality in colombia than where I live, but that is not enough for me. 




I kinda think Maritime has hit on something here.  Don't fool yourself about going to Colombia for 'the Culture'.  I think you are there for the women and the culture is a farrrrrr second.  I have no ideal why you try to keep up this facade of being a little better than your average wife-hunter. 


Fathertime!

[fathertime]

 
THE INESCAPABLE FACT is that her lifestyle is SO DIFFERENT then the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of 31 year old colombianas that to suspect that she is a high end courtesan is a very reasonable assumption
 

Typical frightened gringo reaction.
  There was never enough information to make that assumption, but you were right there to assume the worst in a woman.   


Fathertime!

[Zon]

Personally I would rather live in the USA as a married man...I like the comforts...Colombia is fine for a vacation but living there everyday doesn't sound as appealing unless I was out in the back country somewhere and I did not have to concern myself with any sort of crimes against me and my family.  I do like the notion of having inexpensive 'servents' which is more of a reality in colombia than where I live, but that is not enough for me. 

I kinda think Maritime has hit on something here.  Don't fool yourself about going to Colombia for 'the Culture'.  I think you are there for the women and the culture is a farrrrrr second.  I have no ideal why you try to keep up this facade of being a little better than your average wife-hunter

That is YOUR preference, and that is good for you.  I have enjoyed the last several years of my life, although being a drifter is getting a little old.  I think 2012 will be better than the rest.  Every year is different, and the world is a big place.   IF I FOUND MYSELF MARRIED (especially if children where involved) my home town in the USA would look alot better.   In the first year of "together-ship, I see HUGE advantages of living in Colombia rather than transplanting a woman in the USA. 

I don't see where you get that I think I am better than the average wife hunter - that would be uncivil. 

[Calipro]

Lets be real here.
 
The woman showed Benjio lots of photos of her lifestyle, for a YOUNG Colombian woman (31) she has been to a LOT of places, and she talked about relationships with wealthy men and the gifts they had bought her.
 
Let s assume that this woman goes out with Benjio or any man, there hasn t been a sexual encounter and she pulls him into a high end store....and says to him, I really like this or I like that...If the man DIDN T expect it or anticipate it.....he s got no one to blame but himself
 
This woman was as straight forward as she could be with Benjio. For a bar tab and maybe taxi fare, did you pay for taxis, Benjio? (jejejejej) he got an education.  If Benjio wants to take a shot at this woman without spending anything but normal dating expenses....God bless him!!!!! jejejejej
 
in 2008, I was  interested in meeting a beautiful 32 or 33 year old woman at a Bogota agency, and the agency counselor salesman said...
 
she s  gorgeous, BUT you re going to have to put some money into her. She s going to expect gifts. 
 
And I immediately lost interest.
 
I talked wth an agency client a few days later, the man had gone out with the same woman, she told him that her boots were worn out  and he bought her a pair of 60 dollar boots and if I remember, the agency client didn t have sex with the 60 dollar boots girl , she made an excuse not to see him again. 
 
That s down the ladder from the Manolo Blahnik boots that Benjio s amiga was wearing....
 
but if a man feels that is the BEST way to persaude a woman to sleep with him..its not a seduction,  its not a conquista....as Don Corleone would have said (jejejeje), its nothing personal, it s strictly business!!!!
 
Or the man is paying in hopes of satisfying his particular taste or fetish....and the woman knows it.
 
As men.... we have fantasies that a woman who we think is incredibly gorgeous and sexy, but who plays in another league is going to change her way of thinking and living.....   and the man says to himself I am the EXCEPTION,   I have that SPECIAL SOMETHING, I have that MAGIC RAP,  that is going to make that woman want to go to bed with ME...
 
And always he is deluding himself, jejejeje!   
 
 
 
 

So  .....you don't think Benijo should be following your earlier advice?  jejeje

Everybody's experience in Colombia is so subjective and different based on who they are that it is really almost impossible to give accurate advice on these relationships.

I can tell from your advice that you have had a pretty rough ride while I've had one hell of a wild ride and let's hope that Benijo keeps his mind open so he can see what Colombia really has to offer him.

[Zon]

You consider going out with any woman that works at a whorehouse.......A DATE?

WOOOOOW ...  are all wife hunters this judgemental?   The woman was a single mom with a background in the hospitality industry.  She was physically, exceptional.   She did not want to be an entertainer, but she did want, and need that high income.   We saw each other for a couple months, and then, something came up. 

She was OK in my book.  Wife material for me? nope.  But, then again, it seems I have this unbelievable abilty to spend time with a woman romantically without contemplating marriage! 

[dennislevy]

Calipro et al
 
I think that Benjio has a pretty good idea of what Colombia has to offer....
 
I do agree that we all give advice based on our experiences in SA:
 
But contrary to Calipros assertion I ve had a remarkaby smooth ride. Ive been disappointed a few times by women, but in three years of LIVING in Colombia, I never felt that I spent too much time or too much money on a woman without appreciable results ......
 
It did happen once to me, but it was my first agency trip in January 2008 BEFORE I moved to Colombia)  and I semi fell for a beautiful woman who had been damaged.  I put too much time and a bit too much money into her, wthout results
 
And if I had had bad experiences, I wouldn t (as Calipro described me) hold the all time record for most dates with different women!   I don t  know if its factually true, but thank you! jejeje   If I had bad experiences, I would have quit a long time ago!!! 
 
Assuming the worst about a woman and being REALISTIC about one s chances with a particular woman are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
 
I laughed when I heard my comment described as a typical frightened gringo reaction because there wasn t enough information....
 
When a man lives in Colombia, and observes the culture, he has ENOUGH information, if he s an occasional tourist, HE NEVER KNOWS ENOUGH..
 
Again, I am older then Benjo by a lot..  But  IF a woman like that had talked to me about what OTHER men bought for her....in a first conversation
 
I would have made a quick comment about her manners, and only her manners (because if she was trying to qualify me as a potential client for maintenance and I called her on it....that would have been too direct and too rude).....
 
I would have called for the check, paid it and left...
 
Part of the process is WALKING AWAY and having a very good reason to do it
 
Dennis       
 
   
 
 
 
 

[Traveler]

WOOOOOW ...  are all wife hunters this judgemental?   

No, just some.  As long as a guy is happy with his choices.  In my case, I would be extremely cautious dating this type of a woman because 1) I will have difficulty trusting her and 2) usually those women have been abused and raped in childhood, and that creates serious intimacy issues.
 
But hey, if Napoleon has married a hooker, why can't anyone else?

[dennislevy]

Traveler
 
Thanks for reading my comment about Napoleon and Joesphine. BUT she wasn t a hooker she was a courtesan, some of the most influential men in France met in the small home in Paris that she rented (with the help of clients) to discuss politics and the events of the day.
 
The young Napoleon was barely 26 when he met her (she was a well seasoned 32) and he had very limited experience with women...He thought that because he loved her so passionately, she must feel the same about him.
 
SHE DIDNT...but they lasted as a married couple for 14 years (although they were both unfaithful to each other), her at first and then him...
 
On May 5, 1821 when he died in his bedroom in exile on the remote island of St. Helena, according to witnesses in the room..........his last words were...
 
France....at the head of the army...Josephine.....

[Researcher]

A courtesan is a prostitute. Some say potato(po-tay-to) and some say potato(po-tah-to) its the same thing! hahaha!

   Researcher

[dennislevy]

A courtesan is a woman who has WEALTHY and INFLUENTIAL male clients and sexual activities are almost always part of the relationships she has with men.....whether we want to use the word mistress is another can of worms.
 
The point that Benjio (I think) made is that his amiga is definitely not a cash per transaction prostitute or prepago.
 
I might add that in some cultures, men have paid for the time of women  to act as hostesses, entertainers, conversationalists and sex was NEVER part of the agreement and was clearly understood by the male clients, The most famous and enduring examnple is the traditional geisha society of Japan.     
   

[fathertime]

A courtesan is a prostitute. Some say potato(po-tay-to) and some say potato(po-tah-to) its the same thing! hahaha!

   Researcher

the important fact to note here was that Levy was all over labeling this lady a hooker (courtesan) prematurely and now that Benjio has clarified his position, Levy is trying to replace and forget how foolish his previous paragraphs of comments were.   I continue to hold the position that gringos like levy are way too suspicious and they are damaging to themselves.  Listening to most of their advice about marriage and dating is tantamount to listening to a plummer tell me how to tune a flute.


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

I don't see where you get that I think I am better than the average wife hunter - that would be uncivil.

i realize that you are probably overcompensating with your attitude, but i gotta tell you that is how you come off much of the time.
I think your attitudes will change quite a bit once you have had some real time with a woman in SA.  You will look back on your prior posts and chuckle at your own naivety. there is always more to learn from those who have gone before you! 
Fathertime!

[dennislevy]

I don t believe I ever labeleled Benjio s amiga as a prepago.
 
Once again  a prepago receives money in exchange for sex as a transaction....How much time, what the price is and type(s) of sexual activity is negotiated between the prepago and her client. 

BUT a courtesan has a WEALTHY and INFLUENTIAL clientele. Sometimes all she needs is ONE MAN, (if he s a king or powerful political leader,or business tycoon), sometimes its more then one man   
 
Sex is almost part of the man s expectation in return for ONGOING maintenance of a courtesan. BUT he also receives companionship, conversation, etc. Some of the most famous courtesans in history have been elevated to the nobility, crowned as queens and elected vice president of their country.
 
Courtesans are NOT ordinary prostitutes or hookers or prepagos.   
 
Benjio described the woman as telling him that she had previous relationships with a older businesman in oil (supposedly a friend of her uncle), a Spaniard who owned a large sailboat and a wealthy lawyer in Miami. He had the definite impression that she chose men for the wealth. 
 
I said that I thought that she was a courtesan or a very expensive girlfriend who had very high expectations. and no desire to make a lasting committment.....That s an extrapolation of the woman s attitudes about relationships and love...And, the detailed description (at their date) of the gifts that men had bought for her...was an indicator (at least to me) of what she is.
 
Benjio s last report to us was that he was sure that she wasn t was a prepago (cash for sex transaction ) but he also didn t ENTIRELY BUY the explanation that she gave to him of why she chose the men that she did.

 I ve never given advice about marriage on P L except to maybe suggest that some married men might spend less time on the Internet amd more time with their wives.!!!!

And, anyone can evaluate in any way that they wish....any advice I give about meeting and dating women in SA

Dennis

[Researcher]

  The way I see it you could take a street walker, remove the crack pipe and you would still have about the same thing. Trying to class it up by changing the name to courtesan is ridiculous. Just to clarify:

 cour·te·san /kôrtzn/Noun: A prostitute, esp. one with wealthy or upper-class clients.

Synonyms: harlot - courtezan

   They can claim they are just playing scrabble for all I care. Everyone knows what is going on.

     Researcher

[dennislevy]

I ll try to make the point again.
 
Why can one woman charge say $20 or $50 or $100  (depending on where she is located) for one act of sex...
 
And another woman can command a house, furnishings a generous allowance and gifts, trips and maybe see her client as little as one or twice a week?
 
But granted, a courtesan is more of a companion and usually spends more time with her client 
 
The sex is the SMALLEST part of the difference
 
More important is the PERCEPTION OF VALUE placed on the second woman by her client.  Included in that perception of value

her presentation
her style
her ability to keep him happy, interested, amused and satisfied with her company
and to make HIM look good in front of others
 
And rich and powerful men have always MAINTAINED and VALUED women who had that combination of attributes.         
 
 

[maritime04]

I can draw that conclusions about “wife hunters” from some of your past posts, but you say you do not have anything against this, or them OK I believe you. However I cannot validate the complaint about hearing too much of this or that, IT’S A MARRIGARE WEBSITE where the ultimate goal for the majority of guys here is to get married, NOW I am not saying your opinions and viewpoints are not valuable on this site, quite the contrary they are extremely valuable and good insight into Colombia’s dating and party scene. I for one value your posts and enjoy reading them. Just to clarify if you had to give a weight to those 1-4 reasons why you were in Colombia its obviously number 4, just to put the matter to rest……….
 
Typical frightened gringo reaction.
  There was never enough information to make that assumption, but you were right there to assume the worst in a woman.
 
Denis is allot of things frightened gringo is probly not one of them, using my past experiences in Colombia I would have made the same conclusions.
This girl is definitely not a prepago and I'm convinced of that now. I've known prepagos. They don't answer the phone whenever you call because sometimes they're with clients. They certainly don't call you on their own dime because they enjoy speaking to someone about U.S. Politics, Economics, Finance and World History. They don't speak fluent French, and they don't study English for hours every day to become exceptional speakers and writers. I, as we've all done at some point, judged a book by its cover.
Benjio you could not be MORE WRONG ABOUT THAT, with the cheap girls that can be had for 200mil sure you are correct, but there is a league way above that, not saying this girl you met is one, but they do exist, they are semi educated, polite, speak different languages, and pay their own way if they know it’s worth it.
I really do not understand, YOU brought up this conversation, now you seem kind of offended at the conclusions we have come up with, OK. I can get that, she is your friend, and you will come up with your own conclusions. But given the information you provided us how could we NOT make that conclusion. So don’t be too hard on us.

[Researcher]

     This chick made one statement that would have caused me to decide against any hopes of a relationship. When she said "I don't believe in falling in love and staying with the same person forever" she would have fell into the category of "Women I call when I'm in town and looking for fun". There is no way I would try to have a serious relationship with someone who believes that. Have fun with if I enjoyed her company? sure. Otherwise I know I would be taking a big chance on getting let down.

    Researcher

[maritime04]

She said monogamy, she does not belive in monogamy, or love. That men and women can not have a monogamous relationship, WTF are you kidding me........................................................HELLO
 
Again, benjio is on the ground we are NOT, and she was on Colombian cupido looking for penpals, NOT
ASERIOUS RELATIONSHIP! becuase we all know how difficult it is for a knockout women to meet intresting guys for conversation.