Prepago al Maximo

[Calipro]

 

Calipro et al.
 
If I understand  Benjio s post.....the woman told Benjio about gifts that other men had bought her....a straight colombiana who is 31 does NOT talk about things that OTHER men have bought her WHEN she has a date with a man.

First of all this was not what I would call a date....the two of them had never met in person before and there was no agreement that they even liked each other except in photos.
I really don't know how the conversation went down but is is possible that ben asked her about the photos and she just answered him in a very direct truthful fashion....as it appears to be her MO.

I'm positive that she never dreamed she was meeting up with a crazy wife hunter that would be judging her every word and action from the second they met to see if she was acceptable wife material. LOL!!! Nor that Ben would be that  intimidated that she had a past that allowed her to have a couple of nice things in her life. jejeje
 

I interpreted it as setting an expectation. The implcation is.....if you want to go out with me and we do sleep together, you are going to have to be generous.....

This is just sad and pathetic if you ask me....A women is just trying to find something in common with a guy she just met and shows him some photos to keep the dying conversation going and you think that it has something to do with what a guy has to come up with to get her in bed. I really don't know much about you but I can see you've had some damn bad experiences with women in your days.

Could be you are older and now feel that you have to bring something else to the table besides yourself to land a hot chick.....But Ben is a 31 year old guy that just met up with a 31 year old colombiana......I don't care how hot she looks...at this age...she is not prime marriage material in Colombia.

The woman also told Benjio that she was wondering why he would ask all those questions, if they were just AMIGOS 

My interpretation of her comments is that Ben left her with the feeling that they were just friends and then he starts to get a little personal with his questions and she is saying "if we are just amigos" meaning "aren't we just friends or are you interested in more?".  That would be the way I would have meant it if I had just met up for a drink with a chick who later called me a cab without showing any real interest in me and then she called me up with all kinds of questions.

A woman saying that to a man is so nebulous and can mean a lot of different things..the only two versions of AMIGOS I find acceptable are...
 
1. it never was a relationship, or its now a platonic friendship. We ll chat on line from time to time and maybe wel ll see each other from time to time, and if we see each other I ll spring for the coffee or a lunch. The only exception I make  is with my ex novia in Medlelin with whom I chat with frequently, and when Im in Medlelin I see a lot of her.
2. Or we ll be friends with rights...amigos con derechos!

Whoaa!!!  I can see that you have been really offended by being referred to as "just a friend in the past". jejejeje

I think the woman meant "if we are just friends" why are you asking me all these questions.....It seems to me that once she realized Ben might be interested in her for more than just a friendship she was more than happy to open up and answer his questions.....to bad he didn't like the answers. jejeje
 
 

Calipro, my apologies, but I certainly didn t get me mixed up with you ..I never even looked cross eyed at a teenaged caleña, much less dated one, much less.....jejejeje

Dennis
 

Well if not you then Who?  I have never posted anything about shopping trips with young women in my life....and I certainly have never suffered from unmet expectations.... in Colombia of all places. jejejeje
 
 
 

[dennislevy]

Calipro
 
If Benjio wants to duke it out with you on line that s up to him.  But let me suggest that you READ all of what Benjio wrote.....
 
Here s the deal. I m not going to get into an on line scrap with you.
 
You and I did it here on P L seven years ago and I discovered that we had MUCH different values and MUCH different ways of looking at women, as well as MUCH DIFFERENT age preferences in women. We were and I assume still so far apart, that we CAN T agree on anything!  I remember thinking and writing in a post then; that was it like an Earthman and a Martian trying to communicate with each other . I m not going to do it again!
 
If I recall, your first name starts with W, you trained horses in a southwestern state and if I remember correctly you worked for the post office), so we spent a lot of time trading posts. I m aware of your track record.....
 
And we ve talked on the telephone twice, once when I lived in Oregon, and I had just started posting and you called me and invited me to meet you in Cali and as I recall, you suggested that we try to pick up girls after a TLC function at the Intercontinental.
 
And I believe I called you when I briefly worked for a dating and marriage agency in Bogota, because you had sent in a question on the agency web site. And yes, I know you weren t a member of that agency, you ve always preferred young caleñas.
 
Have a good day.
 
Dennis
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
     
 
 

[Ray]

Just keep it in the Gallery section which is Members Only so at least she'll have some privacy.

 
Yes, and when you post her photo in the Gallery, make sure you label it "Prepago al Maximo" so everyone here will know which chick she is...   LOL!
 
 
Ray
 
 

[Calipro]

Calipro
 
If Benjio wants to duke it out with you on line that s up to him.  But let me suggest that you READ all of what Benjio wrote.....
 
Here s the deal. I m not going to get into an on line scrap with you.
 
We did it here on P L seven years ago and I discovered that we had MUCH different values and MUCH different ways of looking at women, as well as MUCH DIFFERENT age preferences in women. We were and I assume still so far apart, that we CAN T agree on anything!  I remember thinking and writing in a post then; that was it like an Earthman and a Martian trying to communicate with each other . I m not going to do it again! jejejeje
 
And unless your first name doesnt start with W, and you didn t train horses in a southwestern state (and if I remember correctly you worked for the post office), then we spent a lot of time trading posts. I m aware of your track record.....
 
And we ve talked on the telephone twice, once when I lived in Oregon, and I had just started posting and you called me and invited me to meet you in Cali and as I recall, you suggested that we try to pick up girls after a TLC function at the Intercontinental.
 
And I believe I called you when I briefly worked for a dating and marriage agency in Bogota, because you had sent in a question on the agency web site. And yes, I know you weren t a member of that agency, you ve always preferred young caleñas.
 
Have a good day.
 
Dennis


 

I think we can agree to disagree....I did take your advice and re-read benijos posts and I still think I'm right.

Benijo screwed up....I don't think I'll be battling it out with him as I think he might have already come to the conclusion that he really should have given this chick more of  a chance.

The woman did say she doesn't believe in true love....but I've heard that before also....usually after they have been hurt in a relationship....but they fall just as hard and fast as the rest when it comes right down to it.

I have nothing against you or Benijo for that matter...you are both welcome to your opinions.  But I call it like I see it.....the woman did absolutely nothing wrong except under estimate how her pics might mortify a guy that was judging her for wife material from the second they met rather then spend time to really get to know her.

[z_k_g]

As men.... we have fantasies that a woman who we think is incredibly gorgeous and sexy, but who plays in another league is going to change her way of thinking and living.....   and the man says to himself I am the EXCEPTION,   I have that SPECIAL SOMETHING, I have that MAGIC RAP,  that is going to make that woman want to go to bed with ME...
 
And always he is deluding himself, jejejeje!   

So so true!!

Z

[benjio]

Cali, I think you've misinterpreted a lot of what I've written in this thread. Believe what you will, that's definitely your prerogative. I've continued to communicate with this young lady and the topic of conversation in our most recent phone calls has been gringos dating Colombianas, prepagos, and this game we so often dissect with each of our personal experiences and the generalizations  built from them. This is definitely not someone the average wife hunter would encounter SOTB, so I'm enjoying the experience on many levels. Nothing wrong with making a friend, whether they come with benefits or not.

[Calipro]

So so true!!

Z

So it is true!!!   misery does love company.   jejeje

Come on....you guys are killing me here....you couldn't have had it that bad?   Could you?

[Calipro]

Cali, I think you've misinterpreted a lot of what I've written in this thread. Believe what you will, that's definitely your prerogative. I've continued to communicate with this young lady and the topic of conversation in our most recent phone calls has been gringos dating Colombianas, prepagos, and this game we so often dissect with each of our personal experiences and the generalizations  built from them. This is definitely not someone the average wife hunter would encounter SOTB, so I'm enjoying the experience on many levels. Nothing wrong with making a friend, whether they come with benefits or not.

Benijo....you are a few years younger than I was when  I first went to Colombia so yes enjoy yourself.....don't get sucked into this self defeating mentality that some have here.

Whatever you do don't listen to stuff like this:

"As men.... we have fantasies that a woman who we think is incredibly gorgeous and sexy, but who plays in another league is going to change her way of thinking and living.....   and the man says to himself I am the EXCEPTION,   I have that SPECIAL SOMETHING, I have that MAGIC RAP,  that is going to make that woman want to go to bed with ME...
 
And always he is deluding himself, jejejeje!"

If you want you can come to Cali and I'll show you the way.

[z_k_g]

Cali, I think you've misinterpreted a lot of what I've written in this thread. Believe what you will, that's definitely your prerogative. I've continued to communicate with this young lady and the topic of conversation in our most recent phone calls has been gringos dating Colombianas, prepagos, and this game we so often dissect with each of our personal experiences and the generalizations  built from them. This is definitely not someone the average wife hunter would encounter SOTB, so I'm enjoying the experience on many levels. Nothing wrong with making a friend, whether they come with benefits or not.

Benjio,

Whats your gut feeling?

In my opinion, women chose men and not the other way around.  This woman has obviously chosen you, I mean based on what you have told us she has taken the initiative to call you, so, she wants things to continue (or just figure out why you haven't blown up her phone and text).

Its very true that women who are hotly pursued are more attracted to men that ignore and put them off, this trick works every time.  But at the same time, she is a 10 and spent only a brief time with you on a real date, so she must have some ulterior motives.

Based on your telling of the tale, I think she is probing. 

It was mentioned before that all women, even the most hard core hooker, has a desire to be loved by a man.

I mean its obvious to her you are not rich, so that's not her motivation.  You haven't given her gifts or offered to contribute to her lifestyle (based on what you have posted so far).

Maybe you are the one?  Possible?

Thoughts?

Zulu

[z_k_g]

So it is true!!!   misery does love company.   jejeje

Come on....you guys are killing me here....you couldn't have had it that bad?   Could you?

Calipro,

I think this is just simple life experience...

the cheerleader in high school and the starting quarterback
the hot secretary and the CEO
the porn star and Charlie Sheen 

etc....

The quarterback, the CEO and poor Charlie are convinced its their glowing personality....we regular guys know the ugly truth.

Is the fame or the money!!

Zulu

[z_k_g]

After reading this post, thank god for the Philippines

Zulu

[mudd]

Benijo screwed up....I don't think I'll be battling it out with him as I think he might have already come to the conclusion that he really should have given this chick more of  a chance

calipro,  i dont think benjio screwed up. everybody is looking for something different than the other guy, just because you want to sleep with every hot chick in colombia regardless if she is a prepago, nice girl or whatever she is, thats your provocative.  maybe he is looking for something different than you and approaches it in a different  way. You approach life one way, benijo, dennislevy, me, ray ect and others a different ways. i myself, if i was in  benijo shoes with this girl, i probably would have passed on the girl also, since what she was offering is not what i am looking for.


with that being said, enjoy life like you are, and have fun, as long as your not hurting anybody, why not. i accept you for who you are.


 As for her photos, i wouldnt put her photos on here, she  never asked for money for sex, she just make it clear, if you want to date me, im a ' high maintenance" girlfriend. you either accept her terms or move on.

[Zon]

Calipro can be BLUNT However he is almost always accurate.  In my opinion Cali and Benjio are two guys that, on balance, have their Sheet together with women - no need to coach or raise an eyebrow.

The quarterback, the CEO and poor Charlie are convinced its their glowing personality....we regular guys know the ugly truth.
Is the fame or the money!!

But, so many of the rest of you guys need to go to chick school !!!!  Keokuk   FAME and MONEY come in many degrees.  No matter what place you are sleeping tonight, its always about "Attitude" and "Confidence"  Take a guy with average income and a good personality, he is "Famous" and "Rich" in Colombia.

Really, it is a matter of an ABSENCE of Fame (attitude and confidence) and Wealth (life choices) that creates a lack of attraction for "very desirable women" and "average Joes".   This is the basic truth, especially in first world countries and Capitol cities.  Obviously, things are more relaxed in the campo and smaller towns.

[fathertime]

But, so many of the rest of you guys need to go to chick school !!!!   

Before criticizing zulu's post (which I also find a little off) and views on 'chicks', keep in mind he is working on a long term relationship while you are not after all these years.  So who needs chick school?


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

　
Are you serious??
　
After all the trash-talking here about this woman, now you want to post her picture on an open Internet forum so the whole world can see who we are gossiping about?
　
I think we all get the picture without a photo. Before you violate her privacy further by posting her pic, why don’t you let her come here and read all the comments about her first and then she can post her own photo if she wishes to.
　
At least I’ll give you credit for refusing to report publicly on your sexual "conquests", as at least one other member feels compelled to do… 
　
Ray
　

this woman should not have her photo posted here without her knowing about it and approving it...not after all the bs that has been said about her....if i were this lady, and saw what was written about me and then saw my photo up i'd be completely furious.  she has done nothing that warrants her privacy being violated like that....


Fathertime! 

[Calipro]

calipro,  i dont think benjio screwed up. everybody is looking for something different than the other guy, just because you want to sleep with every hot chick in colombia regardless if she is a prepago, nice girl or whatever she is, thats your provocative.  maybe he is looking for something different than you and approaches it in a different  way. You approach life one way, benijo, dennislevy, me, ray ect and others a different ways. i myself, if i was in  benijo shoes with this girl, i probably would have passed on the girl also, since what she was offering is not what i am looking for.


with that being said, enjoy life like you are, and have fun, as long as your not hurting anybody, why not. i accept you for who you are.


 As for her photos, i wouldnt put her photos on here, she  never asked for money for sex, she just make it clear, if you want to date me, im a ' high maintenance" girlfriend. you either accept her terms or move on.

We are all different that is for sure.....I have no desire to sleep with every hot woman in Colombia....only the hot women that are really into me.....I for one can tell the difference between good and bad sex and I much prefer the good stuff. Recently told a pretty damn hot calena that I really didn't want to keep going out with her because I really wasn't feeling it in the bedroom......she seemed shocked....I asked her don't you think we lack some chemistry when we are in bed and she told me "no"....I told her well take it from a guy that is twice your age.....we do. jejeje

She still freakin calls and writes crap on my facebook page.

I don't think for a second the woman showed any signs of being a prepago and the mere fact that she showed photos on nice things on her Iphone doesn't equal "I'm a high  maintenance girlfriend accept my terms or move on". Any guy that comes to that conclusion based on that has screaming insecurities if you ask me.

One thing is for sure...if that chick had met me in my hotel bar....I'd know for absolute if she was really into me or not before she got out that door. I would have kino escalated and if I was still getting mixed signals I would have changed venues just to see if I could get her back to the hotel afterward. If she came back I would have done my best to find her needle in the haystack and if found it really wouldn't matter one bit who bought her what as she was looking at me with those starry eyes. jejejeje

[z_k_g]

As for her photos, i wouldnt put her photos on here, she  never asked for money for sex, she just make it clear, if you want to date me, im a ' high maintenance" girlfriend. you either accept her terms or move on.

Benjio,

A point was made earlier that her picture was posted on a website, but that pic was not attached to her in any private manner.  Its her public persona she has already taken that risk herself in the context of the website.

You know this woman privately now and based on your post on a more intimate level.  At that point you gave up the right to paste her picture anywhere unless she is your novia and her permission is implied or she tells you its ok (explicit).

Like here on P-L, I think its ok to discuss her in general terms, we don't know who she is, her "real" identity, no names have been posted.

But, Its not ok to post her picture in the context of her being a prepago, as you have so concluded.  I mean she hasn't exactly propositioned you for funding.

She is not a scammer, a bad person (based on what you posted) or for that matter done anything to wrong you. 

There is not reason to "bust her out", for what?

If you feel a need or are compelled to post her picture then send her a link to your posts on here and tell her you want to post her picture.

Just my opinion.

Zulu

[benjio]

I've thought about that...

[dennislevy]

Benjio
 
I think Zulu is rght....if you want to show her photo, post a link from here to there....Its been done before by P L members....
 
I don t think the woman (that Benjio presented) screwed up or is a bad woman. 
 
She is who she is and Benjio decided to go further and talk to her. Clearly, he finds her sexually desirable and he is intrigued by how she talks and thinks. The woman LIVED in the United States and has traveled, so he is NOT hearing the usual colombiana responses.
 
Calipro et al..
 
You pasted a quote that I made and called it self defeating behavior. Other then the obvious jab....jejejeje
 
When I say that a woman plays in a different league, what I am saying is that her expecatations of what she has to have...to possibly go out or to be with me are much different then mine, then she s in a different league.     Those expectations could be any number of things, looks, age, money....expectation of gifts, expectation of maintenance, etc....or just simply that even though she may SAY that she prefers a foreigner, in her heart she WANTS a latino.
 
It s just a different league then my league.   Obviously I do have my opinion of what constitutes a major league woman, and Im sure it isn t anything CLOSE to what Zon or Calipro might think (is for them) a major league woman!!!! 
 
We all have different priorities in what we seek in women, for some men it s youth (as compared to their own ages), obvious physical beauty and a spectacular body. And that s their major league.
 
As I ve stated before, I ve dated and slept with women all over Colombia from ages 30 to 54 -55.  I don t know if anyone on the board has (or even would want to) match that spread in ages!)... jejejeje Admittedly not many in their early 30s, but also, not that many over 50.... 
 
And because some men have  a limited range of women who interest them, men tend to make stereotypes about women in age groups they haven t dated. They use a woman s age for what a woman  must look like, feel like etc...
 
As an aside, one of the finest pair of breasts I ever ENCOUNTERED (that s a verb that conotes a variety of activities!!!!!) were those of a 49 year old paisa from Medllin  She had a 36, berween a B and a C bust . I remember silently exclaiming (to myself) during the first minutes of the first time togeher....

THEY RE SILICONAS!!!! I VE BEEN HAD!!!!!   
 
NOT SO!!!! She did exercises every day, used cream and applied ice gel packs to her breasts!! She never had children, she was also a belly dancing student and had a LIGHTS OUT body for a woman who was close to 50,   

And all of that tme spent with women of different ages has given me a wide variety of experiences, heaven know how many hours of intimate conversation, and a fair amount to think about....
 
But, I don t call any of that self defeating behavior. 
 
Every man has the right to pursue women who meet his expecations, and maybe he will meet theirs.....
 
We all agree that we want a woman to be into us,
 
Sometimes we know that at the first conversation, sometimes it may take longer then one date (despite what Calipro maintains, jejejeje... BTW. CP think your take on how YOU might have conquered that particular woman was very funny!) 
 
But it make take longer then one face to meeting ESPECIALLY if a woman is very experienced at the game.....and she has her OWN expectations
 
 Vayan con Dios caballeros!
 
Dennis
 
 

[z_k_g]

Calipro can be BLUNT However he is almost always accurate.  In my opinion Cali and Benjio are two guys that, on balance, have their Sheet together with women - no need to coach or raise an eyebrow.

Zon,

They are both single, and they "...have their sheet together with women", are you serious?

If you had said Whitey, or FT or even AB had their sheet together, I would have to give you some credit.  No matter what we think about them personally, their opinions or their relationships the mere fact that they are IN A RELATIONSHIP, makes all the difference. 

Relationships are hard, skipping from one woman to the next, not so hard.

Dude, you are giving props to two single guys on P-L a marriage minded forum, maybe I'm reading your statement out of context?

Not to take anything away from Cali or Benj, they are pretty sharp guys based on how they handle themselves, but, with all due respect to both, they haven't even begun to demonstrate any capacity to find, court and marry and ultimately maintain a relationship in SA.

Come on Zon!!!

Zulu

[JimD]

I think a principal point behind cp's posts is that there's an awfull lot of unwarrented paranoia regarding Colombian women/girls on this board. Fact is there's really no way they can steal all your money if you just keep your wallet in your back pocket.

[Calipro]

Zon,

They are both single, and they "...have their sheet together with women", are you serious?

If you had said Whitey, or FT or even AB had their sheet together, I would have to give you some credit.  No matter what we think about them personally, their opinions or their relationships the mere fact that they are IN A RELATIONSHIP, makes all the difference. 

Relationships are hard, skipping from one woman to the next, not so hard.

Dude, you are giving props to two single guys on P-L a marriage minded forum, maybe I'm reading your statement out of context?

Not to take anything away from Cali or Benj, they are pretty sharp guys based on how they handle themselves, but, with all due respect to both, they haven't even begun to demonstrate any capacity to find, court and marry and ultimately maintain a relationship in SA.

Come on Zon!!!

Zulu

For the record I have had relationships with Colombianas that have lasted years in both the states and in Colombia over a span of some 15 years.


Dennis has to hold the all time dating record when it comes to total  number of dates with different women.


I don;t think anyone's opinion is more valid than the next guys..... but I don't know anyone that has more combined experience than I do in all types of relationships when is comes to colombianas.

[z_k_g]

Cali,

I'm not busting your balls, so don't take it that way.

I was really puzzled by Zon's statement.

Are you married at present or in a long term relationship with a woman?

Zulu

[dennislevy]

zulu et al.
 
Benjio spent two years dating and courting a young baranquillena, and made numerous trips to Baranquila to see and be with her.
 
Calipro has married before. Anything more that he wants to say is up to him.
 
I don t think that because a gringo has actually married a latina and obviously this applies (to any foreign woman), he necessarily has his %&$% together. Marriages must stand the time of time, mutual disappointments, tragedy, etc. people change, grow apart...
 
And yes, I agree (at least for me) that having successive relationships is easier then a dedicated, monogamous marriage.
 
I wish any gringo that marries a foreign woman...........all the success in the world, and happiness
 
 
 
 

[Calipro]

Cali,

I'm not busting your balls, so don't take it that way.

I was really puzzled by Zon's statement.

Are you married at present or in a long term relationship with a woman?

Zulu

At present I'm not in a long term relationship......last relationship ended about 10 months ago and lasted about 2 years. Over the past 15 years I have spent about 8 years in relationships and about 7 playing the field.


It really isn't all that hard for me to find women in Cali that I don't mind spending all of my free time with so I really don't think I'm the player some make me out to be.


Might not seem like much to some....but sleeping with just one women in Cali  for a year or more is no small feat.