Is economic security the main reason?

[Deseo]

US incomes are higher overall, and there are many more oppertunities in a weak US economy then a strong Colombian economy becuase very little trickles down to the poor barrios.................................................................
 

Yes, exactly.
 
Despite the the economic slump in the U.S. the GDP per capita in 2010 for both countires was as follows:
1. USA: $46,860 per capita
2. COLOMBIA: $9,593 per capita
 
And these figures (from the I.M.F.) are adjusted for Purchasing Power Parity, so it adjusts for any differences in cost of living.
 
Whatever the economic futures are for the U.S. and Colombia, there is still a lot of distance between the two.
 
 

[Zon]

yep

[JimD]

Zon I've seen a frontal photo of that pair and the "chica" is a tranvesti.

[Zon]

HAHAHA - Well, you get what you pay for ...

[Researcher]

HAHAHA - Well, you get what you pay for ...

      I'm glad I don't have to pay......



        Researcher

[Zon]

I'm glad I don't have to pay......

You pay, nucklehead, dearly!  Everyone pays.  Some are just to naive to realize it.

[Researcher]

You pay, nucklehead, dearly!  Everyone pays.  Some are just to naive to realize it.

How do you know? Just another half arsed assumption!

     Researcher

[Alabamaboy!]

I think the dream of economic security is the thing that many times gets our foot in the door. And then the relationship survives and fails from many other factors after that. I believe for the most part the better looks, and the almost mythical appeal of having a "traditional" wife are the things that get the woman's foot in the door. But again, many other factors play out as the relationship progresses which make the relationship a success or failure.

[fathertime]

I think the dream of economic security is the thing that many times gets our foot in the door. And then the relationship survives and fails from many other factors after that. I believe for the most part the better looks, and the almost mythical appeal of having a "traditional" wife are the things that get the woman's foot in the door. But again, many other factors play out as the relationship progresses which make the relationship a success or failure.

makes sense and is based on experience can't argue with it!


Fathertime!

[fathertime]

You pay, nucklehead, dearly!  Everyone pays.  Some are just to naive to realize it.

with your attitude it is best you remain as you are, single and with the prepagos.


Fathertime! 

[V_Man]

I hate to be the guy to agree woth Zon because he and I could hardly be more different.
However he is correct.
Everyone pays eventually in some form or other.
Just because you do not want to accept what he is telling you, there is no reason to call him names.

[benjio]

I hate to be the guy to agree woth Zon because he and I could hardly be more different.
However he is correct.
Everyone pays eventually in some form or other.
Just because you do not want to accept what he is telling you, there is no reason to call him names.

V, it's not worth the calories you burn moving your fingers to type if you're attempting to defend or agree with Zon. This board has been on a witch hunt for him since everyone figured out how he makes a living. Kind of like watching a pod of dolphins attacking a shark to protect a fisherman that fell overboard. Ironically, the same fisherman works for a tuna company that ain't dolphin friendly.

[aconcepts]

I agree wholehaertedly with Zon
 
Only the naive belive that you don't pay a woman for sex/love/marriage. The only question unresolved is how much?
 
I have never seen a deal where men have recived so little for so much as marraige/love.
 
Sex is cheap here in Latin America
House cleaning is even cheaper
Love/marriage is expensive!
 
You will pay one way or the other in time, money, emotional upheaval etc for love or marriage.
 
 

[Micky]

BenJ -
 

Very funny and very spot on.  The same people,  say the same thing,  in the guise of protecting "newbies" , and from the non stop repetition of the same BS,  I am assuming,  protecting those who are not as perceptive as themselves.  If you KEEP saying "Zon,  all he does is run with prepagos and whores",  after the hundredth time it BECOMES the truth.  It is not productive for the board,  nor is it true,  but it will never stop,  no way could it be about egos or the "I am right,  I know more than you"  childlike behavior.
 

Micky

[fathertime]

V, it's not worth the calories you burn moving your fingers to type if you're attempting to defend or agree with Zon. This board has been on a witch hunt for him since everyone figured out how he makes a living. 

I think zon's views get challenged in part because he has not walked the walk.  For a guy who has never had a true latina girlfriend or even speaks the language at the level of a 1st grader, he has strong opinions.   What he does for a living is a different discussion and yes I do think it is a genuine issue regarding his overall character and has had a large impact on why he has not been able to find a decent girl willing to take him in and accept him.


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

BenJ -
 

Very funny and very spot on.  The same people,  say the same thing,  in the guise of protecting "newbies" , and from the non stop repetition of the same BS,  I am assuming,  protecting those who are not as perceptive as themselves.  If you KEEP saying "Zon,  all he does is run with prepagos and whores",  after the hundredth time it BECOMES the truth.  It is not productive for the board,  nor is it true,  but it will never stop,  no way could it be about egos or the "I am right,  I know more than you"  childlike behavior.
 

Micky

hey what happened to your typical ridiculous disclaimer   'i'm just an old man rambling'?


Of course there is a genuine issue here, who a person has associated with and continues to has a genuine impact on the POV.


Fathertime!   

[Zon]

I smell hypocrisy   Over the last 3 years ... I have dated prepagos.  I have dated pornstars.  I have dated strippers.   I have also dated "good-girls" - doctors and professional women,  business owners.  I have not hunted a wife. I date women, like an NFL Coach enters the draft - I seek the best available athlete that fits into my scheme.  And my scheme has changed from time to time.

So, I SAY IT (actually I DID IT:)   And, American women think I am a "bad boy," unmanageable (some men who wear skirts too) 

And, what MAN in their right mind would think this is wrong? I am single!  I am not lying, or hurting anybody.  Why not?

For 13 years, I became a little pussy in a "normal" successful USA marriage.  After 5 years, sex was an unevent, and my life turned into an endless TODO LIST.  I was unappreciated!  But, it was my own fault - I was the man in the TV commercial. I became "unmanly" NOT ANY LONGER, bud.

So, I have not approached my time in Colombia with my biological clock ticking HAHAHA   I have not been "hungry hearted".  However, at the same time, I am not against marriage.  It will just take a special woman to stop me.  Besides, is there any real difference having children at the age of 52 or 47?  Don't think so.

Excellent analogy Benjio!   Thanks for the re-informcement Micky - you are the only one on this board who has actually met me BTW

[Zon]

What he does for a living is a different discussion and yes I do think it is a genuine issue regarding his overall character and has had a large impact on why he has not been able to find a decent girl willing to take him in and accept him.

And this is only for a very puritanical mind.  I work for a law firm and put business deals together ... you guys think I am the one holding the camera?  I see as much, or little, as I choose.  It is a great gig.

[Researcher]

BenJ -
 

Very funny and very spot on.  The same people,  say the same thing,  in the guise of protecting "newbies" , and from the non stop repetition of the same BS,  I am assuming,  protecting those who are not as perceptive as themselves.  If you KEEP saying "Zon,  all he does is run with prepagos and whores",  after the hundredth time it BECOMES the truth.  It is not productive for the board,  nor is it true,  but it will never stop,  no way could it be about egos or the "I am right,  I know more than you"  childlike behavior.
 

Micky

      Well Micky, you seem like a level headed guy. I agree with alot of what you post. Since you seem to like zon and have also met him I'm inclined to believe that he comes across in person better than he does on this forum. But you are off on why some on this forum don't like his posts. If he half way believed in any position he takes he would be able to defend his positions...but he can't. I don't think I have brought up "whore dating" in a while. I have only posted my positions and here comes "poor pitiful me" routine from him that you guys buy into. Read his posts and understand them if you can. I don't buy this "shooting from the hip" nonsense either.

     Researcher

[fathertime]

I smell hypocrisy   Over the last 3 years ... I have dated prepagos.  I have dated pornstars.  I have dated strippers.   I have also dated "good-girls" - doctors and professional women,  business owners.  I have not hunted a wife. I date women, like an NFL Coach enters the draft - I seek the best available athlete that fits into my scheme.  And my scheme has changed from time to time.

And the fact still remains, you have not been able to maintain ANY sort of relationship with any of these 'prepagos', 'strippers' doctors'  etc...


 You opinions of the ladies and wife-hunters are loud but rather hollow because you have not walked the walk in any way, and your ability to actually communicate in spanish is that of a toddler. You are like a 50 year old rookie and you have done it to yourself with your conduct, actions and inactions, and you know it.


Fathertime! 

[JimD]

I agree wholehaertedly with Zon
 
Only the naive belive that you don't pay a woman for sex/love/marriage. The only question unresolved is how much?
 
I have never seen a deal where men have recived so little for so much as marraige/love.
 
Sex is cheap here in Latin America
House cleaning is even cheaper
Love/marriage is expensive!
 
You will pay one way or the other in time, money, emotional upheaval etc for love or marriage.

Aconcepts now that was one of the more perspicuous posts in a long while! Well done.

[Researcher]

   Oh really JimD? So I guess you agree with the idea. I say how do you know everyone pays?


      Researcher

[Bob_S]

Only the naive belive that you don't pay a woman for sex/love/marriage. The only question unresolved is how much?
I have never seen a deal where men have recived so little for so much as marraige/love.
Sex is cheap here in Latin America
House cleaning is even cheaper
Love/marriage is expensive!
You will pay one way or the other in time, money, emotional upheaval etc for love or marriage.

In case you are unaware, the very purpose of this site is to be a source of useful information for those seeking a foreign spouse, and many of those providing that information are themselves married.  If you denigrate the institution of marriage, those who chose the path of seeking a foreign spouse, and our wives by implication that they are some sort of prostitute, you will be invited to take your sex tourist advocacy to some other site that better caters to that audience.

Mod Bob

[Zon]

In case you are unaware, the very purpose of this site is to be a source of useful information for those seeking a foreign spouse, and many of those providing that information are themselves married.  If you denigrate the institution of marriage, those who chose the path of seeking a foreign spouse, and our wives by implication that they are some sort of prostitute, you will be invited to take your sex tourist advocacy to some other site that better caters to that audience.

Mod Bob

These are certainly delicate issues with short fuses. 

But, I have seen that there are many ways grown, mature, and well meaning people decide to live their lives.  While some of it aint for me, nevertheless, it is (and in many cases seems to work for others).  So, it becomes an issue of toleration in some cases.    ( NOW THEN, I am not talking about guys that define their vacation by how many chicas they buy.  THAT IS NOT MY STYLE.   And, I don't enjoy keeping company with these sex starved, overly needy, hombres.  I think life is bigger than that)

The thoughts I have in mind while I write this are.
1, the fact that many women eligible and seeking marriage in Colombia may have had a sponsor at some time in their life. 
2, Many of the men looking for a wife in Colombia (having the best of intentions BTW), have been a former "cliente" at least once in life.
3, Many prepagos in Colombia have husbands.  Thus bringing up a difficult issue for most to understand.
4, Some gringos have girlfriends that continue to "work".  Thus bringing up a difficult issue for most to understand.
5, There are alternative lifestyles where marriage thrives (have you guys seen the HUGE memberships in swinger dating sites).

These are all real social facts, and I think they ought not be taboo here.

So, at question here is how will the dialogue be presented:  As an open exchange if ideas and lifestyles, or as a more restrictive forum with more judgemental undertones?  That is a question that remains unanswered - and in truth depends on the temperament of the active posters at the time.

(NOTE: There are other very active and information rich forums that cater to the lowest common denominator.  There are none that maintain a wide, intelligent, and well mannered atmosphere.

[Fuzzyone]

Zon I've seen a frontal photo of that pair and the "chica" is a tranvesti.

   I was wondering if the guy was chazz? the back end kinda looks like her/him.