Latin women are no better or worse than American women.

[InnocentVixen]

Oh, so we were talking about colombianas not latinas in general? my bad, ignore my posts!

My rebuttal to her was "what's next, Chinese"? She couldn't bring herself to admit that she chose the wrong Brazilian and the wrong American, period.

Well some chinese are actually kind of cute... so why not?   
but yes I see this point of view often, people that will refuse to  see their mistakes will never learn, it is one thing to try something different and take a risk with someone you feel safer to better your chances of success and a whole different story to blame your failures on your partner, or ex-partner for that matter, it takes 2.


For the record, when I say you are "kind of latino" was not meant as an offense, is just I don't know your background so I wouldn't know what to call you, for me a guy that has lived all his life in another country does no longer count as latino even if he has the look and a bit of knowledge of his parents culture. In my experience they are very very different, being raised in another culture will do that to people.


That "flavor" you guys mention doesn't really change though, I find that very interesting, must be in our blood.

[opusone]

Oh, so we were talking about colombianas not latinas in general? my bad, ignore my posts!

Well some chinese are actually kind of cute... so why not?   
but yes I see this point of view often, people that will refuse to  see their mistakes will never learn, it is one thing to try something different and take a risk with someone you feel safer to better your chances of success and a whole different story to blame your failures on your partner, or ex-partner for that matter, it takes 2.


For the record, when I say you are "kind of latino" was not meant as an offense, is just I don't know your background so I wouldn't know what to call you, for me a guy that has lived all his life in another country does no longer count as latino even if he has the look and a bit of knowledge of his parents culture. In my experience they are very very different, being raised in another culture will do that to people.


That "flavor" you guys mention doesn't really change though, I find that very interesting, must be in our blood.

I am talking about latinas in general, but I specifically mentioned Colombia because most men on here make the comparison between AWs and Colombianas. Very rare do i see the comparison between AWs, and let's say Ticas, Ncas, etc.


As far as offending me, this is a forum with many different assumptions, opinions, truths, half truths, myths, wishes, etc. It's never personal for me. I am here equal to all , nothing more nothing less.


As far as flavor, I date based on a physical preference that I am drawn to, as opposed to if they are better than AW's or Canadians, etc.

[clarkkentinbc]

Anyone who says a latin woman is no different than a american woman really does not have much experience with the latin culture in general. They are very very different in so many ways... some subtle and some not so subtle. Absolutely their culture has everything to do with the reasons why they are different.
 
I have yet to meet a bra burner in colombia... aka a femanist. Now I am sure they exist just like somewhere on earth there is a white tiger... but I have never seen nor met one. On the whole the family comes first to a woman in colombia not so much in north america. thats not to say there are not women like that in north america but if you look you will find most of the women who think that way come from another culture or are deeply religous.
 
A colombiana can make you feel like you are the king of the earth. That is something I have yet to hear a man say about an american woman. They have so many subtle ways that make you feel this way it is hard to describe. It starts with their genuine desire to have you lead their household and the respect they give you to the way they bend over backwards to take care of you. It only goes on from there.
 
The latina woman and the american women might be from the same species and have similar feelings etc... but they have completely different outlooks and perspectives and beleifs so to compare the two is an excersize in futility. You will never be able to catagorize them in the same bunch because of it.
 
Hands down I would choose a latina over an american woman any day of the week and twice on sundays... With a latina you at least have a fighting chance for a normal relationship that of course assuming you can handle their passion and culture if you can do that you will find something you would never even dream of with an american woman.
 
Why should you look in the mud(american woman) for a life partner when you can choose between the diamonds(latina)? Oh and the major bonus is I doubt the latina knows she is a diamond... which only makes her that much more desirable.
 
CK

[opusone]

Anyone who says a latin woman is no different than a american woman really does not have much experience with the latin culture in general. They are very very different in so many ways... some subtle and some not so subtle. Absolutely their culture has everything to do with the reasons why they are different.
 
I have yet to meet a bra burner in colombia... aka a femanist. Now I am sure they exist just like somewhere on earth there is a white tiger... but I have never seen nor met one. On the whole the family comes first to a woman in colombia not so much in north america. thats not to say there are not women like that in north america but if you look you will find most of the women who think that way come from another culture or are deeply religous.


So, you haven't met any latinas that lie, cheat, steal , distrusting, are spoiled, egoistas, none of that? I have news for you, they exist. Just the same way as some AW's exist that do the same exact thing. Again, for the record, not all , but they exist.
 
A colombiana can make you feel like you are the king of the earth. That is something I have yet to hear a man say about an american woman. They have so many subtle ways that make you feel this way it is hard to describe. It starts with their genuine desire to have you lead their household and the respect they give you to the way they bend over backwards to take care of you. It only goes on from there.
 
The latina woman and the american women might be from the same species and have similar feelings etc... but they have completely different outlooks and perspectives and beleifs so to compare the two is an excersize in futility. You will never be able to catagorize them in the same bunch because of it.
 
Hands down I would choose a latina over an american woman any day of the week and twice on sundays... With a latina you at least have a fighting chance for a normal relationship that of course assuming you can handle their passion and culture if you can do that you will find something you would never even dream of with an american woman.
 
Why should you look in the mud(american woman) for a life partner when you can choose between the diamonds(latina)? Oh and the major bonus is I doubt the latina knows she is a diamond... which only makes her that much more desirable.
 
CK

[opusone]

Have you had the pleasure of meeting latinas that lie, cheat, steal, are spoiled, distrusting, or egoistas? I have news for you, they do exist. There are fem-nazi types in latin america you know. It may be that you just didnt see that side , but i see it all the time. Some are like the adjectives i listed above, some are not. Its an individual hit and miss wherever you go.  The are women in Managua who are more materialistic than some AW's I know. Go figure , the place is a dump, yet the attitude persist

[Traveler]

Oh, so we were talking about colombianas not latinas in general? my bad, ignore my posts!

Honestly, whatever good I have to say about colombianas applies to mexicanas as well.  Granted there are differences, but there is a lot more similarity than between Mexican women and AW for example.  I used to live in Houston, and have dated several Mexican girls, and they were great.  I just was not at that time at a point to talk marriage and stuff.  I am not sure why most guys here look for colombianas in particular, but I personally would be as happy with a mexicana as with a colombiana.

[clarkkentinbc]

Opusone,
 
Are you comparing a crazy american woman to a crazy colombian woman??? I thought you were talking about a marriage minded woman. I can't speak to the crazy woman because i am not out searching for them. I am only refering to a woman I would choose to date. I don't date, am not attracted to and have no interest in crazy/disfunctional women from any culture so perhaps I am the wrong person to coment on those types.
 
However if you are interested in normal functional emotionally stable women then i have some experience in that area. Of course when I posted i was refering to the normal woman.
 
If your experience has been with the woman you describe then I think its good advice to say that perhaps your either looking in the wrong places or your looking for the wrong kind of woman. I have seen a great many men fall prey to a manipulative woman while looking over seas. I have to say that in maybe all but a couple of cases it was the mans fault that things got like that. They ignored every reasonable red flag and despite deep down knowing it was a bad situation they proceeded with the relationship.
 
Sometimes we can save everyone else but really the person we need to save the most is ourselves... from ourselves. I cannot relate to those who rush into things without thinking of the consequences when it comes to women. I am not that guy. I am fairly well grounded when it comes to relationships. I know a bad situation when I see it and am not of the mind set to give into the feelings of the moment. But hey that knowledge did not come easy. I have been kicked in the teeth before just like the rest of us. I think I just chose to learn from my mistakes... but hey a broken heart has a way of teaching many things.
 
Opusone... Don't fall into the trap of looking for the negative... if you keep your head clear and watch for red flags any bad woman will show herself to you. So if you just go about your life and keep an open mind looking for the things you want I gaurantee you will find them. Stay focused on the worry you will find a gold digging, lieing, cheating, manipulating woman and well likewise I gaurantee you will find her. If you meet a woman you like and just take things slow while watching for any red flags if she is bad she will always show signs.
 
CK

[opusone]

Opusone,
 
Are you comparing a crazy american woman to a crazy colombian woman??? I thought you were talking about a marriage minded woman. I can't speak to the crazy woman because i am not out searching for them. I am only refering to a woman I would choose to date. I don't date, am not attracted to and have no interest in crazy/disfunctional women from any culture so perhaps I am the wrong person to coment on those types.
 
However if you are interested in normal functional emotionally stable women then i have some experience in that area. Of course when I posted i was refering to the normal woman.
 
If your experience has been with the woman you describe then I think its good advice to say that perhaps your either looking in the wrong places or your looking for the wrong kind of woman. I have seen a great many men fall prey to a manipulative woman while looking over seas. I have to say that in maybe all but a couple of cases it was the mans fault that things got like that. They ignored every reasonable red flag and despite deep down knowing it was a bad situation they proceeded with the relationship.
 
Sometimes we can save everyone else but really the person we need to save the most is ourselves... from ourselves. I cannot relate to those who rush into things without thinking of the consequences when it comes to women. I am not that guy. I am fairly well grounded when it comes to relationships. I know a bad situation when I see it and am not of the mind set to give into the feelings of the moment. But hey that knowledge did not come easy. I have been kicked in the teeth before just like the rest of us. I think I just chose to learn from my mistakes... but hey a broken heart has a way of teaching many things.
 
Opusone... Don't fall into the trap of looking for the negative... if you keep your head clear and watch for red flags any bad woman will show herself to you. So if you just go about your life and keep an open mind looking for the things you want I gaurantee you will find them. Stay focused on the worry you will find a gold digging, lieing, cheating, manipulating woman and well likewise I gaurantee you will find her. If you meet a woman you like and just take things slow while watching for any red flags if she is bad she will always show signs.
 
CK

Clark, I think we are saying the same thing. The original post says it all. It doesn't matter if she's Colombian, Japanese or American. If she's a Jezebel, then that's what you got. Is my post not making any sense or do I need to modify the whole thing and name it something else?

[InnocentVixen]

No need to change things, not even your attitude, but from here it comes of as you are itching to head to the flame room, I doubt that will happen with this subject, too many gentleman around here to go that road.


I don't feel like I am saying something very different from clark or even yourself, the big difference is that you are being defensive of american women in a way, if that makes you happy it's ok, but I don't think anybody has offended them enough for you to come to the rescue, why would they have to come up with negative things about latinas or have to agree with you 100%? most posters here do have american grandmothers/mothers/daughters/friends or a female relative of sorts or even an ex that would fill the description of a good woman but that doesn't mean that is the right thing for them.


short version of it:

Foreign women are no better or worse than American women, they are just different.

and there it goes your thread, be happy you got some responses lol


But seriously, guys do know that a girl from X country is not perfect, why do they keep focusing on the positive side of this women? because it is what they are looking for and are thrilled that there are so many options available out there or because that is what they have and it worked wonders for them. For all is worth there was a thread not long ago about negative aspects of colombianas if I remember correctly, maybe you can get things off your chest there.

[opusone]

No need to change things, not even your attitude, but from here it comes of as you are itching to head to the flame room, I doubt that will happen with this subject, too many gentleman around here to go that road.


I don't feel like I am saying something very different from clark or even yourself, the big difference is that you are being defensive of american women in a way, if that makes you happy it's ok, but I don't think anybody has offended them enough for you to come to the rescue, why would they have to come up with negative things about latinas or have to agree with you 100%? most posters here do have american grandmothers/mothers/daughters/friends or a female relative of sorts or even an ex that would fill the description of a good woman but that doesn't mean that is the right thing for them.


short version of it:and there it goes your thread, be happy you got some responses lol


But seriously, guys do know that a girl from X country is not perfect, why do they keep focusing on the positive side of this women? because it is what they are looking for and are thrilled that there are so many options available out there or because that is what they have and it worked wonders for them. For all is worth there was a thread not long ago about negative aspects of colombianas if I remember correctly, maybe you can get things off your chest there.

Sounds like a great title! Flame room? Its a forum, so why would anyone want to take something to a flame room? Sounds childish to me. No need to get things off of my chest as you say , perhaps you forgot/ or never read , that I am dating 2 Colombianas and I'm very happy with them. That wouldn't make any sense at all. All is well, and I wish the same for everyone here who is dating Colombianas.

[fathertime]

I think I like the Latina attitude a little more than the American attitude in the ladies. 

I think it takes more work but I don't mind working a little harder for my young Colombian wife.


At least from my perspective, I think younger American ladies are ok too, but I aged out of them and it is better FOR ME to have found a Latina wife from abroad.
Fathertime!   

[Researcher]

How about a fat Colombian. I saw plenty last month. I'm learning so much from you.

    I bet there are more fat AWs!  I'm glad you are learning something...Vallenatoman...uh..Opusone.

      Researcher

[InnocentVixen]

perhaps you forgot/ or never read, that I am dating 2 Colombianas and I'm very happy with them.

Actually I didn't forget... I was just trying very hard to ignore the fact... denial is a wonderful place and I keep holding on to the idea you are not that bad... I am sure those ladies are not marriage minded or at least know of each other.


What doesn't make sense to me it's the point of this thread or your replies, I still think you need to get something off your chest, if you were that happy with your colombianas shouldn't you be singing praises about how wonderful they are? you don't need to put down AW to do that. You did also mentioned you have a "physical prefference" when it comes to latinas, perhaps you miss the american attitude? or maybe a good american lady got her heart broken and you feel bad for her?


I know the way I feel usually affects my posting, never got that vibe from you before, so just saying.

[Researcher]

    Hey IV,the OP's posting style is very similar to Vallenatoman's.This is kind of a goofy thread anyway. Whether or not someone thinks AWs are great or whether someone thinks AWs are lousy is a matter of opinion and taste, it's not like you can really prove it. It seems most guys here are honest and think AWs are lousy in relationships but some will always take a somewhat opposite view to appear "open minded". I think alot of AMs have been brainwashed anyway and will never admit how "jacked up" the US culture has become. But hey, if it weren't that way guys probably wouldn't be travelling to other countries to find a suitable wife and there would be no need for this forum.

     Researcher 

[opusone]

Actually I didn't forget... I was just trying very hard to ignore the fact... denial is a wonderful place and I keep holding on to the idea you are not that bad... I am sure those ladies are not marriage minded or at least know of each other.


What doesn't make sense to me it's the point of this thread or your replies, I still think you need to get something off your chest, if you were that happy with your colombianas shouldn't you be singing praises about how wonderful they are? you don't need to put down AW to do that. You did also mentioned you have a "physical prefference" when it comes to latinas, perhaps you miss the american attitude? or maybe a good american lady got her heart broken and you feel bad for her?


I know the way I feel usually affects my posting, never got that vibe from you before, so just saying.

IV,


For all it's worth, It's a forum. You went from "I am like your boyfriend, to "you're latino(kind of), to " you're' holding on to the idea that I'm not that bad", to " I need to get something off my chest". I will leave it up to you to continue to assume since  you're putting so much into it. At some point, you would have to ask yourself why?  I do sing praises to the women I am dating , and when they act spoiled or I catch them in small little lies, I tell them that too. I didn't know I had to give you a play -by- play- report on a forum of what i say to them(hilarious) . You state that "I don't have to put down AW's to do that", I'll let you figure out what that means, since I'm not sure I put down AW's or any nationality, just bad women in general. Another guess of yours, (in terms of my statement about preference), Yes , Latinas are my preference and I wouldn't miss any woman that had a bad attitude,be it American, Israeli, Arab, Colombian , etc.  I don't get vibes  on a forum, nor does the way I feel affect a "thread" I post on a forum. Perhaps you can teach me that some day.  As far as your last guess , if a good American lady got her heart broken, I don't know her . If you know of one, ask her how she feels.I don't have that kind of time, nor do I get paid to be therapeutic.

[Colgando]

IV,


For all it's worth, It's a forum. You went from "I am like your boyfriend, to "you're latino(kind of), to " you're' holding on to the idea that I'm not that bad", to " I need to get something off my chest". I will leave it up to you to continue to assume since  you're putting so much into it. At some point, you would have to ask yourself why?  I do sing praises to the women I am dating , and when they act spoiled or I catch them in small little lies, I tell them that too. I didn't know I had to give you a play -by- play- report on a forum of what i say to them(hilarious) . You state that "I don't have to put down AW's to do that", I'll let you figure out what that means, since I'm not sure I put down AW's or any nationality, just bad women in general. Another guess of yours, (in terms of my statement about preference), Yes , Latinas are my preference and I wouldn't miss any woman that had a bad attitude,be it American, Israeli, Arab, Colombian , etc.  I don't get vibes  on a forum, nor does the way I feel affect a "thread" I post on a forum. Perhaps you can teach me that some day.  As far as your last guess , if a good American lady got her heart broken, I don't know her . If you know of one, ask her how she feels.I don't have that kind of time, nor do I get paid to be therapeutic.

Aww, opusone, getting a little defensive with our resident mexicana?? Suave amigo...

[InnocentVixen]

Haha, no worries colgando, he just pointed out of how low my opinion of him has dropped, not that I care or expect him to care of course... and he was already defensive from post 1 in my opinion, no reply will make this guy happy until he works out whatever he has to work out.


I am blessed in a way to have so much free time to post here as much and as often as I do, enjoy me while you can guys 

[opusone]

Haha, no worries colgando, he just pointed out of how low my opinion of him has dropped, not that I care or expect him to care of course... and he was already defensive from post 1 in my opinion, no reply will make this guy happy until he works out whatever he has to work out.


I am blessed in a way to have so much free time to post here as much and as often as I do, enjoy me while you can guys 

With all that spare time , you should come work for our neuro- marketing firm , Hermanita. You have figured out something that none of us here in the office can, and you did it from post #1! Quite unprecedented in our business.We are all ears/eyes here,patiently awaiting.

[sticky2]

You guys are forgetting to mention the GLARING obvious!  Come on guys, we go to South America because young pretty girls actually WANT US! 


Yes there are good and bad women in both cultures. But, in order to "choose" a good woman, you first need choices.  And by choices, I mean choices that we are attracted to.


And to your point opusone, you are totally wrong anyway.  GENERALLY speaking, AW don't value their men the way they do "CULTURALLY" in some other countries.


I think you are just trying to sound clever, and you are very proud of yourself for dating sooooo many women and never getting your heart broken.  You are the exception my friend.... stop showing off 

[Researcher]

   Good call Sticky!  To think that foreign women are no better than AWs must be the result of too many skillets to the noggin!! hahaha!  Now, if you are dumb enough to let a Colombiana go back home and visit for over a month without you then you probably deserve what you get.


     Researcher

[jksun07]

There's a big difference between personal experiences and generalizations, which should be obvious but sometimes we tend to go off based on our own experiences.  There's nothing wrong with that but personal experiences vary from person to person.  Thus, the topic of which women are better can be subjective. 

However, we can't deny that there are cultural differences between the US and Colombia, the West vs. more traditional cultures, etc.  Latinas in the US, especially if they were raised there, are generally going to have different values.  Whether they have fully adopted the American culture or have assimilated, they grew up in an area with a different set of rules.  The US culture has instilled a certain mindset of what a wife should be like and how they should act.  If they are Americanized, they are not going to live with their families until marriage and try to leave when they're 18.  They are going to seek a career and become a co-breadwinner of the family.  They are going to demand equal rights (whatever that means) as men.  In Colombia for better or for worse, men and women alike live with their parents until marriage.  They seem to go to church more often and tend to take religion more seriously.  The women are more open to traditional roles, such as cooking and cleaning.  They accept and expect the man to be the breadwinner.

Most members on this board are fed up with AW partially due to this difference.  Thus, in general we think latinas are better wife material than AW.  I think so too because I want a woman who still knows she is a woman and will act feminine.  I don't want another man in the house.  It doesn't mean I am going to boss her around -- in fact my gf makes more of the decisions than I do because I can be pretty indecisive.  I listen to her a lot as she does the same.  We have a lot of mutual respect for each other.  I even offer to cook but she doesn't even want me stepping into the kitchen.  In contrast, the AW I have been with have been bossy, except for one girl who always liked to get high -- she just didn't really care about anything, including our relationship.

In conclusion, our generalizations are based off our personal experiences.  However, we can't deny the differences in cultures which help shape our mindsets.   

[fathertime]

   Good call Sticky!  To think that foreign women are no better than AWs must be the result of too many skillets to the noggin!! hahaha!  Now, if you are dumb enough to let a Colombiana go back home and visit for over a month without you then you probably deserve what you get.


     Researcher

Jaja!  not old skillethead steve again!  I heard his lovely wife took a 3 month vacation from him recently!
I'm pretty sure his head wounds had time to heal up in that time!
Fathertime!

[opusone]

Just got back from the land of plenty. Bucaramanga is wonderful. Would advise any "gringo" to look in places like this,  pereira and so forth. You won't get that awful mentality that is poisoning Major metros in Colombia. Should have command of Spanish. "Hola",and "Como estas" wont cut it . Mi novia was laughing @ some of the post on this website and the things we were reading baffled her, since most posts about Colombia comes from an agency perspective. I live here half of the year, and I don't have an agenda when it comes to money. I can tell you I stand by my statement, and it's getting worse. You can see the changes happening even more rapidly than even i suspected. Agency girls are portrayed so much differently, but , I understand that some need this to get the feet wet.  i went to Buenos Aires to visit a friend and low and behold, as bad as their economy is, hot women put out the same energy. Now, if you are talking about women with kids, or in the 4-5 range,  sure you will find something for anyone. Just be aware of the changes you feel and I'm sure you guys will make the right decisions.

[Colgando]

Just got back from the land of plenty. Bucaramanga is wonderful. Would advise any "gringo" to look in places like this,  pereira and so forth. You won't get that awful mentality that is poisoning Major metros in Colombia. Should have command of Spanish. "Hola",and "Como estas" wont cut it . Mi novia was laughing @ some of the post on this website and the things we were reading baffled her, since most posts about Colombia comes from an agency perspective. I live here half of the year, and I don't have an agenda when it comes to money. I can tell you I stand by my statement, and it's getting worse. You can see the changes happening even more rapidly than even i suspected. Agency girls are portrayed so much differently, but , I understand that some need this to get the feet wet.  i went to Buenos Aires to visit a friend and low and behold, as bad as their economy is, hot women put out the same energy. Now, if you are talking about women with kids, or in the 4-5 range,  sure you will find something for anyone. Just be aware of the changes you feel and I'm sure you guys will make the right decisions.

Dude, I can tell you that for me, and I am sure at least AB, FT, Researcher and Raycj, using an agency has nothing to do with getting a person's feet wet. In fact, I know at least AB and researcher tried all kinds of avenues. I myself have tried online dating. All the aforementioned men are plenty capable of meeting woman through any and all avenues based on the posts I have read here. Maybe not many people talk about meeting their wife online or on the street or through a network here because it does not happen that much, at least representative of people that participate on this forum. I can only think of Whitey and UC at the moment that used online (UC) and network (Whitey) that are married to Colombianas. You yourself are not married, so maybe you can add to the success stories of a different avenue than an agency one day.


I can tell you that I met my girl through an agency, which is only one of many avenues to meet women, we have disconnected from the agency and I have now assimilated into everyday BAQ life. I am learning a lot about everyday BAQ life through her, her friends and family. I used the agency for exactly what it is, an avenue to meet women, I found me one that I like, the agency served its purpose, and I have moved on.


Just pushing back against you bro, you seem to see online dating or whatever method you used to meet your woman as somehow superior. I would argue that no avenue is better or worse and that each avenue has its pros and cons. I would argue that one should be grateful for whatever avenue was used to meet the love of their life.

[opusone]

Dude, I can tell you that for me, and I am sure at least AB, FT, Researcher and Raycj, using an agency has nothing to do with getting a person's feet wet. In fact, I know at least AB and researcher tried all kinds of avenues. I myself have tried online dating. All the aforementioned men are plenty capable of meeting woman through any and all avenues based on the posts I have read here. Maybe not many people talk about meeting their wife online or on the street or through a network here because it does not happen that much, at least representative of people that participate on this forum. I can only think of Whitey and UC at the moment that used online (UC) and network (Whitey) that are married to Colombianas. You yourself are not married, so maybe you can add to the success stories of a different avenue than an agency one day.


I can tell you that I met my girl through an agency, which is only one of many avenues to meet women, we have disconnected from the agency and I have now assimilated into everyday BAQ life. I am learning a lot about everyday BAQ life through her, her friends and family. I used the agency for exactly what it is, an avenue to meet women, I found me one that I like, the agency served its purpose, and I have moved on.


Just pushing back against you bro, you seem to see online dating or whatever method you used to meet your woman as somehow superior. I would argue that no avenue is better or worse and that each avenue has its pros and cons. I would argue that one should be grateful for whatever avenue was used to meet the love of their life.

Colgando, (and no, I won' address you as "dude"  since I don't know you so well),


I will respond to your assumptions, and then I'll drop it .If you wish to opine regarding the post, by all means have at it.


1. In regards to my statement about "agency girls are portrayed so differently, but , I understand that some need this to get their feet wet". What exactly is wrong with that statement? Most men who I have had the pleasure of corresponding with on here, have used an agency for this very reason. They were not familiar with the culture, system, or customs, hence, they used an agency. This is why I said "i understand that". I guess you will explain why that statement has no merit.
2. You used the agency as an avenue to meet women that you otherwise would have not met. Pursuant to that,you are now learning about Barranquilla. Perhaps we are saying the same thing?
3. You state that "I seem to see online dating or whatever method I used to meet my women as somehow superior". I guess I missed that post because you are the only one assuming that. You can fill me in on that.
4. Exactly who was "arguing" or insinuating that a particular avenue is better or worse? Perhaps you're assuming again?
5. Of course I am grateful for the avenue(s) I used to meet wonderful women. If they in fact turn out to be the love of my life, that would be even better.


What we were laughing about is the posts in general , not the fact that men used an agency.


All in all, you assumed way too much, never once asked for an explanation, yet drew an unequivocal conclusion.


In closing, I am still  glad to hear that you fond someone that you can trust and love.


Have a good day