Barranquilla

[Fuzzyone]

  I have seen some post here about guys going to Barranquilla or using Jamie's service there. Well about 8 years ago I went to Barranquilla to meet my future wife. I used Amigos.com to meet her. Would I use Amigos again maybe but I think the major problem is the scammers that you will run into now. Anyway My wife spoke decent english and I understood some spanish to get by. I ended up making 3 trips there lasting about a month each.


  I think what I got the most out of those trips is what the woman really are up to down there in Barranquilla. I could not believe how many men were sending woman money that they did not know. I would go up the street to the internet place and the place would be filled with woman talking with guys.


  Anyway I have been married for 7 years which has been something of a record for me, but I got lucky I could have ran into a shark and got clipped but taken my time kept my behind out of trouble!

[fathertime]

Hey Fuzzy!  Well everyday you are adding another day to your 'record marriage! In a few years I might be able to say the same!
I gotta ask you a few questions regarding the adaptation process of your Barranquillian babe.  Did you get her driving and how long did it take if you did and did you teach her?   Does she work now?  What kind of things do you and your wife do for fun?


Thanks, and happy birthday!


Fathertime!   

[JimD]

   I think what I got the most out of those trips is what the woman really are up to down there in Barranquilla. I could not believe how many men were sending woman money that they did not know. I would go up the street to the internet place and the place would be filled with woman talking with guys. 

This is now a cottage industry in Cali. I know girls who do it. Any good looking young girl with a little patience can chat up gringoes online to the point where they will send money. There are a lot of men who seem to be reasonably content feeling  they have a "virtual girlfriend".  Most never come to Colombia. I know of two cases however where the girls ended up dead because of this arrangement.

[benjio]

This is now a cottage industry in Cali. I know girls who do it. Any good looking young girl with a little patience can chat up gringoes online to the point where they will send money. There are a lot of men who seem to be reasonably content feeling  they have a "virtual girlfriend".  Most never come to Colombia. I know of two cases however where the girls ended up dead because of this arrangement.

I too find this absolutely unbelievable. Who are these guys?!!! Seriously?!!!
 
JimD, I also know of a girl from Cali that was murdered for doing this, but the guy she had lied to was Mexican, not from the United States. Wonder if we talking about the same girl...

[JimD]

I´ve mentioned these two cases before where girls were recieving money from gringos. One was killed after leaving a Wstern Union office where she´d picked up a big "giro" from an American and the other was extorted for the money and killed by her Colombian boyfriend when he found out she was recieving Western Union "giros" from a gringo.

[Gato4Astrid]

I´ve mentioned these two cases before where girls were recieving money from gringos. One was killed after leaving a Wstern Union office where she´d picked up a big "giro" from an American and the other was extorted for the money and killed by her Colombian boyfriend when he found out she was recieving Western Union "giros" from a gringo.

Well serve her rights!

[Alabamaboy!]

Fuzzy, does your wife lie a lot? My wife lies a lot about little stupid things. And when I ask her why, when there is seemingly no reason for it, she just shrugs her shoulders while uttering my favorite answer "no se BB"

When I try to explain to her that it is really bad that she does that and that it causes problems with the trust in the relationship, she responds with my second favorite Costena comment "Mmmmmmm...."

Her laid back and positive attitude is almost annoying, if you can believe that. When asked about her parents situation where her dad has two other families, more kids with these other women, he takes off for months at a time, wastes the family's money on these other bitches, and basically humiliates her mom on a daily basis.....I ask her how she feels about it. She replies "mmmmm normal". She says her mom and dad love each other and that "only God can judge people". And when I inform her that is not true....that they even have these people in the courts called "judges" who judge people. And there are judges in beauty pageants, and people generally judge a person's character on a daily basis, she replies with that Einstein-like "mmmmmmmmm" again.

I even ask what would happen if she found out I was cheating on her with a bunch of other "bitches" on the side. She replies "no se". I ask if she would leave me. She replies "nooooooooo BB I loveeeeeeeeeeeee you foreverrrrrrrrrrr".

The way they think is absolutely insane. And I have heard and seen this kind of behavior over and over again with Barranquilleras.

One of the older Estrato 5 aunties of my ex was dating an ugly older Colombian guy. They were "novios", and went on vacations, parties, all the normal things together. The family was very religious, going to every church event there was. The aunt lived with 4 of her professional career sisters with the mother and father in a nice house. Everyone accepted the older Colombian attorney boyfriend of the aunt. But the weird thing is that everyone knew he was married. But everyone just turned the other direction from that reality. And they did not do so out of some kind of desperate situation. It just seems like that is the way it is there.
That auntie, stayed with that Colombian guy for like 7 years. But then she got a fat, rich, non-spanish speaking gringo prometido.....AND a married Paisa sancho to boot. But again, no problem with the family even though they all knew about all of this.

I think you could be an assassin there, but still be completely accepted in the family. Any family. And could go to church and not have any problem. I think you could probably have 5 other women you see on the side and not really have any problems. In fact, the women do not seem like they even care or will stop loving your for it. It seems like pretty much every deviate behavior is overlooked and even accepted.

Has anyone else experienced any of these things?

[Alabamaboy!]

A friend of mine was laughing at me because I am not married to a Colombiana. He told me of a certain website that was a huge webcam site with girls from all over the world doing some of the most filthy things imaginable on camera. He had a bad case of Latina fever and utilized the filter mechanism to show only "Latin America". That filter knocks the number down to about 250 girls out of 1,000. Out of the 250, probably 90% are Colombians. I checked it out and it is true. It is strange because there are lots of other places that are more poor and desperate. Lots of places with good internet. But Colombia is way ahead of all other countries. Except for Philippines which I can attest to, is on a whole much more poor and desperate from the things I saw there.

It is amazing to me that so many Colombian women are ready to participate in this sort of thing even though many of them do not look poor or desperate at all. It makes me think that maybe there is some underlying flaw in their culture or something where they do not have a well developed conscience or something.

[JimD]

One time when I stayed at a bed & breakfast near the US Embassy there was an American guy and his novia there. The owner told me they were there to try to get her visa restored. Seems on entering the US she had lied about something to immigration and they sent her back to Colombia. The owner said the problem is you Americans are extremely strict about things like that whereas we Colombians are  “muy folkloricos” meaning we´re accustomed to telling little white lies and nothing happens. Colombian oficials expect it.

[Researcher]

A friend of mine was laughing at me because I am not married to a Colombiana. He told me of a certain website that was a huge webcam site with girls from all over the world doing some of the most filthy things imaginable on camera. He had a bad case of Latina fever and utilized the filter mechanism to show only "Latin America". That filter knocks the number down to about 250 girls out of 1,000. Out of the 250, probably 90% are Colombians. I checked it out and it is true. It is strange because there are lots of other places that are more poor and desperate. Lots of places with good internet. But Colombia is way ahead of all other countries. Except for Philippines which I can attest to, is on a whole much more poor and desperate from the things I saw there.

It is amazing to me that so many Colombian women are ready to participate in this sort of thing even though many of them do not look poor or desperate at all. It makes me think that maybe there is some underlying flaw in their culture or something where they do not have a well developed conscience or something.

   Hey AB it could be also that there are many low life gringos down there promoting this kind of business.

    Researcher

[Fuzzyone]

Hey Fuzzy!  Well everyday you are adding another day to your 'record marriage! In a few years I might be able to say the same!
I gotta ask you a few questions regarding the adaptation process of your Barranquillian babe.  Did you get her driving and how long did it take if you did and did you teach her?   Does she work now?  What kind of things do you and your wife do for fun?


Thanks, and happy birthday!


Fathertime!

  I am sorry to say but we had to hire a driving instructor to teach her only because I did not want to meet the windshield, but she did learn to drive and bought her own car. My wife does have a problem where she is not sure of herself and does not believe what I tell her.  She has a 4 year college  degree and wanted to go to school here. After talking to admissions they told her to get her degree transfered up here. Well that is what I told her but I guess she did not believe me until someone else told her!


  She works for a child care provider right now but is always looking for something else. The job scene here is horrible so I don't see much changing for right now.

[Alabamaboy!]

   Hey AB it could be also that there are many low life gringos down there promoting this kind of business.

    Researcher

Ahhhh....very true.

[Fuzzyone]

Fuzzy, does your wife lie a lot? My wife lies a lot about little stupid things. And when I ask her why, when there is seemingly no reason for it, she just shrugs her shoulders while uttering my favorite answer "no se BB"

When I try to explain to her that it is really bad that she does that and that it causes problems with the trust in the relationship, she responds with my second favorite Costena comment "Mmmmmmm...."

Her laid back and positive attitude is almost annoying, if you can believe that. When asked about her parents situation where her dad has two other families, more kids with these other women, he takes off for months at a time, wastes the family's money on these other bitches, and basically humiliates her mom on a daily basis.....I ask her how she feels about it. She replies "mmmmm normal". She says her mom and dad love each other and that "only God can judge people". And when I inform her that is not true....that they even have these people in the courts called "judges" who judge people. And there are judges in beauty pageants, and people generally judge a person's character on a daily basis, she replies with that Einstein-like "mmmmmmmmm" again.

I even ask what would happen if she found out I was cheating on her with a bunch of other "bitches" on the side. She replies "no se". I ask if she would leave me. She replies "nooooooooo BB I loveeeeeeeeeeeee you foreverrrrrrrrrrr".

The way they think is absolutely insane. And I have heard and seen this kind of behavior over and over again with Barranquilleras.

One of the older Estrato 5 aunties of my ex was dating an ugly older Colombian guy. They were "novios", and went on vacations, parties, all the normal things together. The family was very religious, going to every church event there was. The aunt lived with 4 of her professional career sisters with the mother and father in a nice house. Everyone accepted the older Colombian attorney boyfriend of the aunt. But the weird thing is that everyone knew he was married. But everyone just turned the other direction from that reality. And they did not do so out of some kind of desperate situation. It just seems like that is the way it is there.
That auntie, stayed with that Colombian guy for like 7 years. But then she got a fat, rich, non-spanish speaking gringo prometido.....AND a married Paisa sancho to boot. But again, no problem with the family even though they all knew about all of this.

I think you could be an assassin there, but still be completely accepted in the family. Any family. And could go to church and not have any problem. I think you could probably have 5 other women you see on the side and not really have any problems. In fact, the women do not seem like they even care or will stop loving your for it. It seems like pretty much every deviate behavior is overlooked and even accepted.

Has anyone else experienced any of these things?

  My ex from Peru would lie to me everyday with out fail. I don't know what it was but if she could lie about something she would . Some of the stories she would come up with I could could not believe in a million years but she would still say it no matter what.


  My present wife I have to respect because she does tell me the truth sometimes I have to laugh at her and she gets mad at me because when she is telling me something it is like a book it takes forever.

[fathertime]

Has anyone else experienced any of these things?

Hey buddy! 


You know my woman a little bit. Obviously she is from Baq, and sshe doesn't lie, or excuse bad behavior, she is articulate and intelligent and not as laid back as I like to be! 


That being said, for all your woman's 'interesting' qualities, she is loyal, cute, and innocent, so those appear like good qualities for a woman to have.


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

  I am sorry to say but we had to hire a driving instructor to teach her only because I did not want to meet the windshield, but she did learn to drive and bought her own car. My wife does have a problem where she is not sure of herself and does not believe what I tell her.  She has a 4 year college  degree and wanted to go to school here. After talking to admissions they told her to get her degree transfered up here. Well that is what I told her but I guess she did not believe me until someone else told her!


  She works for a child care provider right now but is always looking for something else. The job scene here is horrible so I don't see much changing for right now.

Thanks Fuzzy!     I haven't met the windshield yet but my car is a little bruised and I'm lucky the airbag hasn't broken my beak yet. 


My wife also doesn't always believe when I tell her something, so I let her find out for herself, and in the end she sees that her husband the old fart knows what he is talking about MOST of the time.


Fathertime!

[Alabamaboy!]

Hey buddy! 


You know my woman a little bit. Obviously she is from Baq, and sshe doesn't lie, or excuse bad behavior, she is articulate and intelligent and not as laid back as I like to be! 


That being said, for all your woman's 'interesting' qualities, she is loyal, cute, and innocent, so those appear like good qualities for a woman to have.


Fathertime!

You're right. She is not a scammer or interesada, but it is interesting to see how some of these girls operate. I just hope she never changes and goes to the "other side" because I think a couple of her sisters are not really good people and I hope she never takes on their characteristics.

[benjio]

I have to admit that I don't think my ex ever lied to me. I never caught her in a lie at least. She was very honest, sometimes even brutally honest. But I do know exactly what you're talking about Bama. I've never understood why Costenos are like that and they can't explain it either. Same thing with stealing. A Costeno will lose their job stealing something that cost less than a fraction of their salaries. Then, when caught red handed stealing, they'll lie about that.

[Alabamaboy!]

My wife has not stolen not even a single peso. I know she does not have that in her. But lies....or distorting reality....or witholding information, yes, she does that.

The lies are so infantile and without a goal. It is just easier for her to do it rather than tell the truth which may be not so positive.

She is super positive though. Even when there is a disaster happening. That can be a good or bad thing. She would probably be the last one to get off the "Titantic" because she would be so "positive" she would think God or magic would patch the hole and make it come back up again. That leads to her being a very passive passenger in life and does not really try to do much to improve her stake in life. In reality it is a miracle that we even ended up together because it is so unlike her to be chatting with a gringo or even considering coming to the States. When I ask her why she got with me in the first place she says, "Because I loveeeeeee you!"When I ask her "but why did you fall in love with me?", she just replies, "Because I love you mamorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!" That is how simple her thought processes seem to be. I guess I should be thankful that she is soooooo descomplicada and low maintenance. And quit trying to "figure her out".

[saleens7tt]

Fuzzy, does your wife lie a lot? My wife lies a lot about little stupid things. And when I ask her why, when there is seemingly no reason for it, she just shrugs her shoulders while uttering my favorite answer "no se BB"

When I try to explain to her that it is really bad that she does that and that it causes problems with the trust in the relationship, she responds with my second favorite Costena comment "Mmmmmmm...."

Her laid back and positive attitude is almost annoying, if you can believe that. When asked about her parents situation where her dad has two other families, more kids with these other women, he takes off for months at a time, wastes the family's money on these other bitches, and basically humiliates her mom on a daily basis.....I ask her how she feels about it. She replies "mmmmm normal". She says her mom and dad love each other and that "only God can judge people". And when I inform her that is not true....that they even have these people in the courts called "judges" who judge people. And there are judges in beauty pageants, and people generally judge a person's character on a daily basis, she replies with that Einstein-like "mmmmmmmmm" again.

I even ask what would happen if she found out I was cheating on her with a bunch of other "bitches" on the side. She replies "no se". I ask if she would leave me. She replies "nooooooooo BB I loveeeeeeeeeeeee you foreverrrrrrrrrrr".

The way they think is absolutely insane. And I have heard and seen this kind of behavior over and over again with Barranquilleras.

One of the older Estrato 5 aunties of my ex was dating an ugly older Colombian guy. They were "novios", and went on vacations, parties, all the normal things together. The family was very religious, going to every church event there was. The aunt lived with 4 of her professional career sisters with the mother and father in a nice house. Everyone accepted the older Colombian attorney boyfriend of the aunt. But the weird thing is that everyone knew he was married. But everyone just turned the other direction from that reality. And they did not do so out of some kind of desperate situation. It just seems like that is the way it is there.
That auntie, stayed with that Colombian guy for like 7 years. But then she got a fat, rich, non-spanish speaking gringo prometido.....AND a married Paisa sancho to boot. But again, no problem with the family even though they all knew about all of this.

I think you could be an assassin there, but still be completely accepted in the family. Any family. And could go to church and not have any problem. I think you could probably have 5 other women you see on the side and not really have any problems. In fact, the women do not seem like they even care or will stop loving your for it. It seems like pretty much every
deviate behavior is overlooked and even accepted.

Has anyone else experienced any of these things?

AB....do you still have hair left on your head. Lord...that would drive me loco. I wonder if she cheated on you what her response would be....luv u bb. Do colombiana wives cheat??? Stay strong AB...colombianas seem to take life so non chalantly.

[Alabamaboy!]

AB....do you still have hair left on your head. Lord...that would drive me loco. I wonder if she cheated on you what her response would be....luv u bb. Do colombiana wives cheat??? Stay strong AB...colombianas seem to take life so non chalantly.

I still have all my hair, but it seems like I am finding more and more gray hairs.

I would pretty much bet my life that my wife has not cheated on me. She doesn't have the capability to think or do things like that. Well, at least that is what I think. FT met her, I think he would say the same thing.

Now my ex, hell, anything is possible with her. She is a very "ambitious" little girl. Cunning. A little too street smart, or so she tries to be. All of those things are negatives in my book when considering a woman as a wife.

As to your question whether Colombian women cheat? I think it is possible in the upper estratos, if they are working outside the home. Especially when many of the offices give 2 hour lunch breaks. The last time I spent time with my ex GF, she finally got an office job and she could not get time off from work, but she came home for her 2 hour lunch to the hotel I was staying in, we had a good romp in the bed for about 90 min and she took a quick shower and back to work. Seems like any good looking mama could do the same, married or not married.

But an old school stay at home mom like my my mother in law, she is not going to cheat on anyone. There is not time, no place, no cash for transportation, and more importantly her husband would knock her teeth down her throat. Seems like gossiping is a national pastime in Colombia, so I doubt many average wives would take a chance like that.

[saleens7tt]

I read your post this morning AB and got a chuckle out of it...I was imagining a colombiana talking like that "no se bb"...lol...I'm making ny maiden voyage to jamies in mar for a 10 day stay and I've been soaking up opinions, storeis and experiences from the likes of you, benjio, fathertime, colgando, jim d and others and ill tell you I am beginning to believe colombianas are aliens from the planet "wtf"  Lol...they are something else. Beautiful but strange.

[benjio]

I agree with Bama...very unlikely with a lower Estrato Girl. If you're with one that's using you for money and is not really into you, they may have the desire to cheat, but they'll usually never have the means. Family pressure is huge too. If the entire family knows the girls has got the interest of a well off gringo, consorting with other men around the barrio will be frowned upon to say the least.
 

[Alabamaboy!]

I read your post this morning AB and got a chuckle out of it...I was imagining a colombiana talking like that "no se bb"...lol...I'm making ny maiden voyage to jamies in mar for a 10 day stay and I've been soaking up opinions, storeis and experiences from the likes of you, benjio, fathertime, colgando, jim d and others and ill tell you I am beginning to believe colombianas are aliens from the planet "wtf"  Lol...they are something else. Beautiful but strange.

Yep, that is what I tell my wife from time to time.( And she will usually respond with a giggle and "no se mamor" or a "mmmmmm") I have met, dated, and worked with Latinas from all over but they were very easy to figure out to see what their angle was. However Colombianas are all over the place in the way they think, act, and process information. The sense of reality, time, values, it is all crazy there....sometimes. And the same girl on a different day may appear to make sense.

There are some lucky dogs here in the forum however who appear to have met some really "normal" women and are not experiencing the same drama that the rest of us have met up with.

And I feel that I need to issue a disclaimer that almost all of my time has been done on the Coast.

[saleens7tt]

AB..I got a feeling if I get a novia in one of my trips to "planet wtf(aka baranquilla), that ill be all gray by year 1 with her, by year 2 will have performed self torture on myself by pulling all those gray hairs out, and after the 3rd/4th yr of marriage will be a dark skinned jack nicholson in tbe movie "the haunting"..."honey I'm home" to you and crazyland.    All kidding aside, I'm lookin forward to the adventure bcuz it sounds like one that will keep me intrigued for many years...and a little loco. This is gonna be fun.

[Alabamaboy!]

I cannot ever remember anyone traveling to Colombia the first time and saying that they did not have a blast. Even with all the crazy twists and turns.