Agencies in Cali and I Cali's Best still in operation

[LatinSharpei]

I am just now starting the research to figure out what agencies are quality and viable.  I was thinking about Medellin but I am hearing it is a a little rougher and guys have really soured the environment there with thier actions.  So I started looking in Cali... I am 34 and pretty good with spanish...  I was curious about a few things.  1) Is Cali's Best still in operation.  When I email them I get a fatal error and my email returned.  2) What are the quality agencies in Cali??  I am trying to make sure I have all my research lined up and done correctly as I get only 3 weeks vacation in a year so I was going to burn 2 weeks down in Cali and try to really find "the one".  Am I doing this all wrong.. Any sugesstions from a Vet... I am not looking for a playboy type trip this is serious and sincere in my intentions 

[dennislevy]

A couple of years ago, I was a client in Bogota agencies, I also worked in one.
 
Here is what I learned. TWO basic but VERY important things
1. IF the agency worker(s) pay attention to details and actually make the effort to call women and send them your agency profile, and confirm dates you may have a viable agency...but workers do turn over frquently.
2. IF the owner is there in the agency and is directly involved every day and makes sure that stuff gets done and reasonable men are treated right, you may have a viable agency.
 
Failing that, what you have is a small business tryng to take money in and do as little as possible to earn it.  It doesnt matter how good looking the women are on the web site.....of even if they are availlable to  meet men....it the first two conditions aren t met..its a tough road. 
 
Unless the owner has a sense of busienss ethics and customer service, once the agency has your money.....there is no incentive to extend themsleves for you
 
I personally dont think that any agency in Medellin OR Cali meets those requirements.
 
There are two that I would recommend with those requirements....if you feel that you have to use agencies one is in Baranquilla one is in Bogota
 
But if you ve got decent Spanish, get on a web site like www.colombiancupido.com talk with women  DIRECTLY  and put togewther a targeted campaign to meet women in Cali  or whatever location you want.
 
Ask any questions that you want....we are here to help you.
 
Dennis

[LatinSharpei]

Dennis,
 
That is wonderful information... I was considering the Colombiana route a few years ago but I wanted to be more secure with my career... Nothing worse than making sure things are good on the home front and making sure someone else feels secure.  This sounds really stupid but I can not read or write spanish.. It comes out horrible when I do that... I keep hearing mixed results on both sides as far as agencies and the websites... I really have a passion for the latin culture... I did my graduate studies in US and Latin American Relations and the interference the United States Government has run with the maturation of these countries.  I really would love to share in the culture every day as I wake up as the luckiest man alive in my perception and I am sure every man on here feels the same way I will...   With that being said... I noticed more of a difference in appearance based on regions... I am pretty drawn to the Medellin and Cali look...The ladies on bogota look more European... It's just a preference thing and if we all had the same preferences I think the world would be very boring...

[dennislevy]

OK...thanks for the response.
 
results are meaningless...its the American passion to quantify everything that drives us to to demand results.
 
What is true.
 
Its YOUR quest....how you manage it, what resources you choose, where you spend money, those are all your decisions. What someone else did or didnt do with an agency or dating site is irrelevant. Put together a reaisitc campaigb based on what your needs are , who you can reallitically attract and what you can offer. 
 
if you dont have enough Spanish to get on a dating site and chat, you can go to an agency or a dating web site and PRE SELECT FOR women who say they speak English. I will say that if they are attractive and they actually speak decent English.....they get A LOT of attention.
 
Keep us posted, if I can help you let me know,
 
Dennis 

[jb]

 
But if you ve got decent Spanish, get on a web site like www.colombiancupido.com talk with women  DIRECTLY  and put togewther a targeted campaign to meet women in Cali  or whatever location you want.
 
Ask any questions that you want....we are here to help you.
 
Dennis

Dennis,

I just clicked on the link above and the webpage that pulls up is full of preselected web searches.  kind of like if a website no longer exists but the webaddress is still valid.

the point you made was valid, i was just seeing if the link was correct but the site may be down.

thanks

[LatinSharpei]

So here are my concerns from reading posts... There are girls on the webites that are scammers... I guess I just would have to weed through all that... Yes I can weed through all my spanish reading... It just takes me a very very very long time... Like a friend said... You communicate well enough to do business of the phone in spanish so just use the electronic translations to write them and explain you are using a translator but speak pretty good spanish...
If I use an agency.. The one I was asking about I am not sure if they are in business anymore... There is another I am looking at.  They are in the agency section on Planet Love... Does Planet Love screen these agencies... Ya know if they start hearing stuff that is bad about them do they get removed?  Next do the agencies use models to lure in the guys and then not have those girls avialable to meet... Kind of a Bait and switch type tactic?  I mean that with no disrespect but it would really really suck to want to meet someone and then hear they are no longer with the agency. Guys you all know the heart wants what the heart wants...I am really planning this out and trying to get serious for a trip at the beginning of next year... I want to have my full 3 weeks of vacation so I can spend time with the girl in Colombia and then also have some days off to spend with her once she gets in the states.  I am open to a younger child as well... So I am kinda putting money away for a toys fund.. I think it would be fun to do the shopping for new toys when they get here... Going out and finding stuff so that it's not just a house but a home to them...

[dennislevy]

latinsharpe

I may have made  a typo and if I did forgive me ......try www.colombiancupid.com

There are all kind of women in agencies in personal introductions agencies......from scammers to very good women.
There has been a lot written about  the agency environment, sometimes  it is reasonable, most of of it is overblown.....by men who didnt undertand the environment or the culture.

Leaving photos and profiles of beautiful girls on agency web sites (and they are not avaialble) is common place. Why does it happen?

It takes an enormous amount of effort to track down agency female clients  and find out if they are still current or if  their situation has changed...again for the equivalent of 2 or 3 bucks an hour.....most agency workers won t do it.. and if the agency owner isnt there to maintain quality...the agency web site doesn t refect reality.

And of course ,  the photos of berautiful girls (who may have long since disappeared areused to lure in some first time amateurs

Very few agencies actually respond in a timely fashion to inquiries and phone calls ,,,so it can be a frustrating process to know if they are ACTUALLY IN BUSINESS.  Plus most colombian agency workers don t have enough or any expereince in fpreign cultures to understand how to qualify and separate serious inquiries from Internet tire kickers and wing nuts ...so they usually ignore almost all inquires.

Dennis
 



 

[Researcher]

     "Most of it is overblown" I have to agree Dennis.


    Researcher

[Gato4Astrid]

Latin
When you see any agencies, make sure you write to them, asking some iquestions (even for silly questions).   If they do not reply you asap, eliminate them!
 

[LatinSharpei]

And here I was kinda shy in emailing the one that I am interested in because I can not come till April... I  am kinda silly about wanting to have all my ducks lined up and quacking all in unison before I make major moves... I hate failure...  I guess I should take that advice Gato and get to know this agency...

[Tiburon]

LatinSharpei:
 
If you are considering Cali, you might want to consider reading posts by JimD.  He is an American ex-pat living in Cali and has good things to say about the allcolombiangirls agency in Cali.  I am giving Cali (and this agency) some serious thought for my next trip to Colombia (late 2011 or early 2012). 
 
Here's a recent thread where JimD discussed it.
 
http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=6437.msg87223#msg87223
 
And HERE's the ACTUAL QUOTE from the thread in question:
 
"The allcolombiangirls agency in Cali accross from Chipichape is functioning just fine. It is a "brick & morter" agency where you can go in person and make introduction dates with girls in Cali. A nice feature of the website is a page that shows the most recent sign ups, last twenty or so, so you can head directly to the new girls who stand no chance of being  jaded by endless unproductive dates with gringos.

In the last couple of years this board has evolved to focus exclusively on an agency in Barranquilla run by a gringo. It seems like a serios case of "tunnel vision" has ensued. It´s ok by me, the more I can have the caleñas to myself the better but should a case arise where a new guy is actively discouraged from seeking his "media naranja" in Cali in order to swell the coffers of a gringo in Barranquilla well that in my opinion would spell a sad degeneration of integrity hear abouts. But back to the question at hand yes two two week visits are the best choice."
 

 
 
 

[LatinSharpei]

Tiburon,
 
This is good information,  I recently messaged an agency via email through a previous comment.  I like what they appear to offer it's been less than 24 hours, I really and starting to like more and more what I hear and read about Medellin.  So I would like to see what they have to say... If they don't respond or something like that then I would probably take a look at that agency... I looked a little bit but something about this agency in Medellin has me pretty sold. 
 

[Gato4Astrid]

LatinSharpei:
 
If you are considering Cali, you might want to consider reading posts by JimD.  He is an American ex-pat living in Cali and has good things to say about the allcolombiangirls agency in Cali.  I am giving Cali (and this agency) some serious thought for my next trip to Colombia (late 2011 or early 2012). 
 
Here's a recent thread where JimD discussed it.
 
http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=6437.msg87223#msg87223
 

I was with ACG about 4 years ago, but I wasn't very happy with their service.  The secretary at that time did not bother to reply any of my questions.  I wrote her that I wish to meet girl XXX, YYY, ZZZ, etc, but when I arrived there, the secretary did not even contact them on my behalf, and was starting to!  I have wasted 1st day without a date!!

I strongly believe they should be well prepared and be 100% professional because you are paying them.

I do not know about ACG today, but I notice at least 2 girls with fake age and date of birth, because I have met 2 of them and know their real age and birthday!   Obviously, they did not check with their cedulas.  If they can lie about their ages, then they can lie about anything else, including their marital status, children, etc.
 
http://www.allcolombiangirls.com/detail-pro.php?code=2138  Her real birthday is on 30th December (I know her)
http://www.allcolombiangirls.com/detail.php?code=1764  She is not 40  (was appeared as 36, 4 years ago).  She is really 49 !!!
 
To get to the point, I believe in professionalism, and that's including real data of these ladies (cedulas), answering your questions asap, getting prepared when you arrive.

ACG still lack professionalism even though they have many beautiful ladies.  Do not fool by looking at these beautiful ladies !!!
 
 
 
 
 

[utopiacowboy]

Tiburon,
 
This is good information,  I recently messaged an agency via email through a previous comment.  I like what they appear to offer it's been less than 24 hours, I really and starting to like more and more what I hear and read about Medellin.  So I would like to see what they have to say... If they don't respond or something like that then I would probably take a look at that agency... I looked a little bit but something about this agency in Medellin has me pretty sold.

I find this comment puzzling since you seldom hear a good word about Medellin on PL.

[LatinSharpei]

Urban
 
Here is my view on Medellin... I did a good portion on my research online.  I am trying to be a serious as I can abou this... This is a decision that is gonna be life changing... I should be confident when I go down there knowing I have all the facts behind me.  I love how the city looks... I want to go a see something while I am there... I have been told that of all the cities Medellin is the best one to go see...  I think that the girls are gorgeous...  I might just be a rookie about to make a bunch of rookie mistakes.  So if that is the case let me know what you vets are seeing I am doing wrong.   Am I looking at a situation where the girls are gonna be like Russian girls where they use guys for the visa then jet?  Would love to hear peoples opinion on that one... The other thing I have started to wonder is how long should I give an agencyto respond via email?  I have been told that patience is a virtue I must learn when dealing with things over in Colombia as nobody is ever on time.  So far no word from the agency I email.. Any word on Colombian Sweethearts?

[utopiacowboy]

I love Medellin and its women - I think they are the best in the world. However no one on PL would ever agree with that viewpoint and I must agree, the paisas can be a bunch of money-grubbers. OTOH I like a woman who knows the value of a peso. 

[whitey]

I find this comment puzzling since you seldom hear a good word about Medellin on PL.

I've only spent a week there, but I absolutely loved Medellin.  The city is very well organized, is beautiful and beautifully situated, has an excellent public transportation system, many different options for living in smaller towns very nearby (for example Sabaneta), huge investments in public and cultural facilities (Parque Botero, Parque Arvi, Parque Explora, etc.).

UC has stolen the best woman, so the rest are OK I guess ... but if you like morenas, much better in Barranquilla ...

[LatinSharpei]

UC?  Help a newb with that abreviation... What agency is in Barranquilla

[whitey]

UC?   Help a newb with that abreviation... What agency is in Barranquilla

Sorry - UtopiaCowboy - I was referring to his wife.

In Barranquilla, "the" agency is International Introductions: http://www.latin-wife.com/

[LatinSharpei]

So after all my research I am finding there are some ladies that really really interest me...Next steps???  I mean I am not going to just jump in a plane tommorrow... I am trying to do this so that I can show up for 10 days an have an amazing trip.  Not worry about money, do what ever we want to do when she is there and if it right ask her to spend the rest of my life with me.  I want to do this all right... And I know that once I ask her to do that, that I am going to need to come up with cash for all the visa paperwork... I tend to over prepare but when I don't I have this little worry inside that eats at me NON STOP...

[Researcher]

Urban
 
Here is my view on Medellin... I did a good portion on my research online.  I am trying to be a serious as I can abou this... This is a decision that is gonna be life changing... I should be confident when I go down there knowing I have all the facts behind me.  I love how the city looks... I want to go a see something while I am there... I have been told that of all the cities Medellin is the best one to go see...  I think that the girls are gorgeous...  I might just be a rookie about to make a bunch of rookie mistakes.  So if that is the case let me know what you vets are seeing I am doing wrong.   Am I looking at a situation where the girls are gonna be like Russian girls where they use guys for the visa then jet?  Would love to hear peoples opinion on that one... The other thing I have started to wonder is how long should I give an agencyto respond via email?  I have been told that patience is a virtue I must learn when dealing with things over in Colombia as nobody is ever on time.  So far no word from the agency I email.. Any word on Colombian Sweethearts?

        I'd give the agency a day or two to respond.One thing I learned is never to wait long on things with businesses in Colombia or you just might be waiting forever.Definitely do a follow up if you are interested in this place.

       Researcher

[whitey]

LatinSharpei:

It sounds like you are putting a lot of pressures and expectations on yourself:  one perfect trip, propose to the woman immediately, and start working on the visa.  Does that really sound like a sure-fire recipe for long-term marital bliss?

This is not like planning an expedition to the North Pole or to conquer Mount Everest where you may only have one shot and every detail needs to be meticulously thought out in advance.  And like Jeff always says, this isn't some unpleasant task that needs to be done in the least amount of time for the least amount of money.

It should be fun, fun, FUN!  Worse case scenario is that you have an awesome vacation.  Colombia is an amazing and beautiful place, and you have the opportunity to meet and date many amazing and beautiful women.  Even if you do meet someone special, you should plan on this being the first of at least several trips.  I've been 11 times, had some of the best times of my life, and can't wait to go back. 

By all means learn as much Spanish as you have time for before you go, read up here as much as you can, try to line up a few dates before you go (or use an agency).  But the most important thing is to get down there and start experiencing it for yourself.  If you only have the time, money, and desire for one perfect trip, this may not be the route for you ...

[LatinSharpei]

I am doing things the way a friend did it with a Lady in Russia.  They have been married for about 7 years now... I have a passion for the Latin Culture and speak a good bit of spanish... I will probably start talking to our spanish customers in spanish more... I used to refuse to do that due to the fact that I would start to get abused with everyone just passing all those calls to me with a call back number and nobdy else would try.  Thus the customer would have to wait.  And I started to get a group that would only work with me so I would be my normal work load plus the lazy people's work load as well...   It's not about money or time or desire... I saw what worked for a friend.  I saw all the reseach and time he put into his trip.  He came out very sucessful. Obviously I am not going to settle.  There has to be common interests, a spark, and chemistry... I am not looking for domestic incarceration... IF I want there there are American Girls that would love to be called warden ummm I mean wife.  I might be comming off as strong willing and demanding but I played ball at some of the highest levels and have always taken the attitdude the if you want something go get it.  Work hard and it will be yours...So in a traning mode this is my time with the wieghts making sure that things are right... I am looking into Salsa and Meringue classes here in the stats so I don't look like a dope and we can both enjoy going out dancing with out my date thinking she just signed up for a date with rain man... I just want to make sure I can act if the time is right as far as finding the right person...

[Researcher]

  LatinSharpei, nothing wrong with being prepared.I think you are going about it the best way it suits you but like Whitey said have fun.I made travelling and dating foreign women part of my lifestyle when I was looking and had some great times.I believe even if a guy doesn't like to travel doing this can be fun.Once the plane ride is over meeting the women and seeing the sites as well as experiencing the culture can be an awesome experience.


      Researcher

[Alabamaboy!]

And here I was kinda shy in emailing the one that I am interested in because I can not come till April... I  am kinda silly about wanting to have all my ducks lined up and quacking all in unison before I make major moves... I hate failure...  I guess I should take that advice Gato and get to know this agency...

It seems like you may not be completely 100% with the Spanish, so in your case I think it is of some use to chat and email alot to practice your Spanish and learn more about the culture and the "way" that they think. As well as pick up on some of the regional slang. But my advice is to keep everything superficial and don't paint yourself into a corner. Stay fluid. If you have anything going for you at all as a person you will have multiple, attractive options for dating there, and you don't want to have any problems because some of these girls misunderstood and thought you were traveling only for them.