Christian singles registry

[valuedcustomer]

Hi, I'm a long term poster and was married and divorced from a Colombiana.  I have heard good things about women in the Philippines and would like to make a trip there.

I came across the below website called "Christian singles registry".  He claims to have been in business for 15 years, but I have never heard of him.  Has anyone heard of this agency or done business with them?  He claims to have a filipina wife he has been married to  for 7 years. 

http://www.wifeplace.com/

[Ray]

I know nothing about this outfit, but there are literally hundreds of similar businesses out there that want to separate you from your money for similar services.

How much do they charge? Do you have to join up to find out? If so then I personally would not play their game.

Ray

[Bob_S]

Hey vc, update your profile status then.  It still has you married.  Go back to "looking".  You might catch flak from guys around here if you are back in the hunt while it looks like you are already married.

Sorry things didn't work out.  It happens.  Several of us had to re-start after a crash and burn.  Asia should bring you a bit less drama for your next go-around.

[valuedcustomer]

I know nothing about this outfit, but there are literally hundreds of similar businesses out there that want to separate you from your money for similar services.

How much do they charge? Do you have to join up to find out? If so then I personally would not play their game.

Ray


They don't give a price.  But I got an e-mail from one of their associates, along with his testimonial of marriage to a filipina, and a phone number.  I haven't called yet.  I discovered the site, because they had an ad on Drudge Report.  But, you may notice that the site doesn't seem to have been updated since 2000 - not a good sign.  If he has been in business 15 years, its strange nobody has heard of him.  But, there is a video on his site where he was interviewed by Dick Clark in 1998.

Here is the Youtube version on the Dick Clark Interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBfv5Wwmjw


Larry McEntire - he explains his story here. He was divorced by two American women.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTB5FXdpv7Q&feature=related

[piglett]

all i can say VC is do some research & then you will know
but the guy may be for real


good luck
pig

[valuedcustomer]

On his website he has hours of taped testimony from happy men who got divorced from bad American women and then met sweet Filipinas through his site.  He said he gets women from small towns, colleges, and other wholesome places.  They are women who are not likely to have ever been in a bar.   He said they are from  good families, are naturally loving and helpful, and many are virgins.  The Filipinas sound way better then Colombians.    I really didn’t find Colombian women to be much better then American women, although they are nice to look at.  Do you guys agree with his judgments? 

[z_k_g]

On his website he has hours of taped testimony from happy men who got divorced from bad American women and then met sweet Filipinas through his site.  He said he gets women from small towns, colleges, and other wholesome places.  They are women who are not likely to have ever been in a bar.   He said they are from  good families, are naturally loving and helpful, and many are virgins.  The Filipinas sound way better then Colombians.    I really didn’t find Colombian women to be much better then American women, although they are nice to look at.  Do you guys agree with his judgments?  

Value,

This guy sounds legit to me.

But, honestly I think you don't need his services if you have the patience to weed through a few hundred women on some of the popular websites.

If you want them weeded out and get only "christian" women as he promotes, then he may be a great option.

I actually went to the website and listened to all of the youtube videos.  His present total of 6500 marriages is impressive.  With only 4 or 5 divorces, his formula may work better than doing this on your own.

I'm not sure how IMBRA impacts his program, I didn't see any mention of that, but from what many have posted on here, marriage brokers and introduction services are illegal in the Philippines so you may want to ask him what his company actually does for you.

Finally he charges for his services.  I didn't look at the fee structure, but I'm sure its not cheap.  The thing is you can find a really nice pinay for free on some of the free websites.  

That's what I did, and because there are so many quality women there, its hard to not find a decent pinay for marriage.

No matter what path you take, there are no guarantees!

Good luck,

Zulu

[z_k_g]

Also the best option to meeting filapinas is to go there on vacation!

Zulu

[Ray]

He said he gets women from small towns, colleges, and other wholesome places.  They are women who are not likely to have ever been in a bar.   He said they are from  good families, are naturally loving and helpful, and many are virgins.

VC,

This sounds like just more agency BS and nothing more.

First, never believe ANYTHJING these agencies are touting about themselves, and that includes posted testimonials. Verify everything independently. What he “says” should mean nothing at this point since he wants your money.

Second, since the population of the Philippines is probably at least 90% Christian, at least in name anyway, why would you need somebody to find Christians for you in the Philippines??

The fact that some business won’t even send you a fee schedule for their services until and unless some sales-person contacts you by phone would scare me off immediately. Tell him to send you a fee schedule, by e-mail, without you disclosing ANY personal information in advance, or he can buzz off. See what he says about that.

There are many ways to go about this without all the drama and suspected high-pressure sales tactics from a virtually unknown business.

BBB Report:  http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/dating-service/christian-singles-registry-corporation-in-princeton-tx-7001123

Ray

[Ray]

Found this from an unsatisfied customer:

http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.christiansinglesregistry.com

$2,990?? Direct debit your checking account every month?

Whoa there!

[valuedcustomer]

Found this from an unsatisfied customer:

http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.christiansinglesregistry.com

$2,990?? Direct debit your checking account every month?

Whoa there!

Good find.  It sounds like the customer agreed to the contract and then immediately changed his mind and tried to get out of it because his mother told him it was a bad idea.  I think their deal is you pay a certain amount per month for 15 months.  The guy changed his mind and tried to break the contract.  He also said he was a trucker.   When I heard the testimonies, most were truckers.  It sounds like  the agency puts cards and ads at every truck stop to advertise to lonely men.   

[Bob_S]

Second, since the population of the Philippines is probably at least 90% Christian, at least in name anyway, why would you need somebody to find Christians for you in the Philippines??

And the term Christian is so vague.  90% are Christian, and 90% of those are Catholic.  It's redundant and silly to mention.  Unless he means Protestant Christian which you might need some help tracking down.  It's a bit more rare, like trying to track down Protestant Christians in Japan or China.

The fact that some business won’t even send you a fee schedule for their services until and unless some sales-person contacts you by phone would scare me off immediately. Tell him to send you a fee schedule, by e-mail, without you disclosing ANY personal information in advance,

And I would ask about a la carte services and pricing.  You can do a lot yourself, and maybe only need some help with, say, setting up a comfortable apartment for rent, transportation, whatever.  When I used an agency in St. Petersburg, I reached a point where I didn't need their full service, I was comfortable enough on my own.  But I did like their mid-city apartments, so I asked if they could just arrange a flat for me, and they were fine with that.  Money is money.  If this guy is not willing to just provide a comfortable apartment, or airport pick-up and drop-off, if he wants total control over you and your experience while you are in-country, then beware.  It's a bad sign.

[Ray]

This guy says he does not sell individual addresses or contact info.

Three thousand bucks for Filipina contacts is absolutely ridiculous IMHO! It sounds like they are basically doing what just about every other contact seller is doing, except that he wants automatic monthly payments set up in advance before you ever get anything. And if you should happen to find a lady on your own in the meantime, that's tough shyt because you are a "member for life" and you are apparently not allowed to cancel out at any time for any reason.

It also sounds as if he is running a travel agency and lawyer referral service on the side (?). He wants total control.

This is insane!

Spend that $3k on a nice vacation trip (or 2) and go on your own… or piglett might give you a member's discount and set you with a cousin in the Philippines for around 20 bucks.  

Ray

[Jhengsman]

And the term Christian is so vague.  90% are Christian, and 90% of those are Catholic.  It's redundant and silly to mention.  Unless he means Protestant Christian which you might need some help tracking down.  It's a bit more rare, like trying to track down Protestant Christians in Japan or China.

When I first saw the thread title I was thinking it was a replay of the SDA thread. There does seem to be a colony of sabbath keepers who are finding SDA men.

 However I clicked his link and saw that "Christian" was worldwide and we all know that identifier is not needed for the Philippines. The  last unofficial adherant poll I heard was 84% Catholic, 4% Protestant, 5% non trinitarians mostly the INC with a few  JWs and LDS. Most of the balance being Muslims with a few claiming indigenious and other Eastern faiths. Non believers are hard to break out because according to Catholic theology they remain Catholic unless their Bishop releases them

[Colgando]

VC,

The fact that some business won’t even send you a fee schedule for their services until and unless some sales-person contacts you by phone would scare me off immediately.

Ray

That is so true to me, "It's just lunch" does the same thing, they do not advertise their prices on the website. I submitted an inquiry, the woman calls me, talks my head off for 30 minutes about how hot and awesome her female members are, how much online dating sites suck, she must have been a phone sex operator on the side with her tone of voice, then she was like, you ready to sign up and date my hot, exotic women, and I said, how much does it cost, she says, $2,500 bucks, upfront, no refund, you do not get to see any profiles or pictures before you sign up. I told her I am interested in meeting exotic women, she said, ohhh I have Vannesa, or whatever her name was, to introduce you to. All they promised was like 14 dates. Man, I told her no thanks, when I finally gave it a second thought, I remembered and smacked myself upside the head, I'm not interested in the career woman type that is so busy that she has to have It's Just Lunch manage her dating life, LOL!  Man, to me, it's just lunch is an "American Agency" for real, same exact thing Jamie does in my opinion. Interesting how there is no negative stigma associated with it, at least none that I have heard. That is a good rule of thumb, if they do not advertise their prices, that means they are going to be steep and try to sell you on quality to make the value proposition attractive.

[valuedcustomer]

From what I can gather from the tapes, the price is $3000, paid over a 15 month period by automatic payments.  The client’s profile is sent to women in his database, and only the ones who are interested in you write to you.  He claims this is a better system then the websites, where a few pretty women receive hundreds of letters, and will continue to receive letters long after you are engaged.  If it works, it may actually be worth it because you get letters from women all over the Philippines in colleges, etc.  His main clients – truckers need a full service agency to guide them along.  He puts “Christian” in the title to attract the right people – both men and women.  There is some validity to this.  When I was dating in Colombia – every agency  ended up being dominated by whore mongers which chases out the good women.   I don’t think this is comparable to “It’s Just Lunch” because there are plenty of available women in the Philippines.   

[Colgando]

I don’t think this is comparable to “It’s Just Lunch” because there are plenty of available women in the Philippines.   

There are plenty of available women at its just lunch, their membership was in the thousands in my area with a 50/50 split between men and women, of course, I can neither confirm nor deny these statistics, problem was they are not my type and I could not see any pictures or profiles before joining. If you can see the pictures and profiles before joining, that is a BIG difference between It's just lunch and your site of interest. So, you do not do the selecting, interesting, the women select you...hmmmm, scratching my chin..

Best hopes for you bro

[piglett]

This is insane!

Spend that $3k on a nice vacation trip (or 2) and go on your own… or piglett might give you a member's discount and set you with a cousin in the Philippines for around 20 bucks.  

Ray

hell yes , i'll be glad to sell off some address  
Marily has so many dam cousins i'll never run out of them  
who wants a nice province girl ??
send me a PM & lets make it happen


your porkness
piglett

[Bob_S]

Marily has so many dam cousins i'll never run out of them  
who wants a nice province girl ??
send me a PM & lets make it happen

I'll bet a lot of the married guys here have connections to a plethora of available girls.  If I were one of these guys looking to the Phils, I'd be hittin' up Dave H for some names and pics of trustworthy prospects.

[truthteller]

Just wanted to post this for your information I was I guess still am a member of the christian single registry. I would stir clear of these guy they will make you big promises and deliver on just some. they need to take the christian out of  the name because the give you such a hard sales pitch they should be ashamed. They are very expensive to say the least. Be wary of them. they change a lot once your check clears they not very helpful. They prey on the lonely. if you think I am dishonest check out the THe BBB you see that I am not the only one. by the way his son quit the company years ago due to the tactic of his father. by the way he make his biggest money on rying to sell you real estate in the philippines that is over priced for the area. they will even promis you a free vist to that resort. guess what? this never happens.  they cheated me out of 5k that a fact but hey stupid tax  happens some times. I make sure every time I see a message board where with Christian singles registry  I tell the truth and let people know what happening. If you want to get married to a filipina  please look around you don't have to spend a load of cash to do it.  married 8 yrs to a Filipina.

[Dave H]

I'll bet a lot of the married guys here have connections to a plethora of available girls.  If I were one of these guys looking to the Phils, I'd be hittin' up Dave H for some names and pics of trustworthy prospects.

Thanks Bob, LOL
 
Doctors, Lawyers, nurses, school teachers, accountants, the cashier at Jollibee, ladies from the mountains, what will it be? The choices are endless... 
 
I stay out of the marriage business...I don't want to be blamed for finding one lady a richer Kano than another!  However, I thought about starting a penpal club for all of the lonely gays here (in this case "MOB" would mean - Mail Order Bayot or Mail Order Bakla)...I think that would be legal under REPUBLIC ACT NO. 6955. 
 
There are so many ladies looking for Kanos now! My wife and I hear "Give me a Kano!" quite often. Too many Filipinas now are looking for a foreign husband for the wrong reasons IMHO! (money) Take your time, use your intuition and good judgement in choosing! Finding a wife is easy...finding a great wife takes a bit more patience, luck, and intelligence! I am not a huge fan of  meeting on "chat" sites (although some guys have done well). I think the percentage of scammers is higher since anyone can do it (yes even ladyboys) without much effort, often without leaving their home.  I personally know of many horror stories (gays, married ladies, multiple chatmates, young school girls, etc.) I even know Filipinos (here in the Philippines) who met and married women of less than desirable qualities through chat and texting. I would think that an introduction agency (although illegal in the Philippines) would have a higher percentage of ladies that are more serious in finding a spouse (takes a bit more effort to fill out forms). Although, I doubt many, if any agencies actually do any background  checks. Who can vouch for a lady's character and motives...the agency owner or rep who probably has never met them, let alone personally know them! I like personal introductions best (how I met my wife). There are plenty of guys on the board who can provide a good introduction to a friend or relative.
 
A word of warning for guys who plan to vacation in the Philippines and search for a bride...know what to look for in a "good" lady! I would generally stay away from the very friendly ladies (who talk to me, outside of their job requirements) and look for one who runs away when I look in her direction...don't ask me how you would eventually meet her?   
 
Dave

[Jeff S]

Yeah - I think it's hilarious that someone would actually pay money to meet Filipinas. As P. T. Barnum said.....

[thekfc]

However, I thought about starting a penpal club for all of the lonely gays here (in this case "MOB" would mean - Mail Order Bayot or Mail Order Bakla)  

Nice one. 

[Ray]

I thought about starting a penpal club for all of the lonely gays here (in this case "MOB" would mean - Mail Order Bayot or Mail Order Bakla)...

 
LOL!
 
Don't forget Mail Order Bading...
 
 
Ray