First foreigner EVER to be convicted in Colombia on pedophile charges

[z_k_g]

Kfc,

I have listed the Federal Statutes that apply to International minimum age of 18, look at previous posts.

The Interpol document states that there a "National Federal age of consent which is 16".  This is not correct.  There is no Federal age of consent for the US.  Age of consent statutes are set only at the state level, unless there is an interstate crime.

State Statutes are not applicable outside of your state, and are never applicable outside of the United States.

Interpol is not a law body.  The document is incorrect for the above presented reasons.

Zulu

[thekfc]

Kfc,

I have listed the Federal Statutes that apply to International minimum age of 18, look at previous posts.

Sorry I am blind & dumb....can you repost it again?

The Interpol document states that there a "National Federal age of consent which is 16".  This is not correct.  There is no Federal age of consent for the US.  Age of consent statutes are set only at the state level, unless there is an interstate crime.

That was given to them by the US Government, and if it is wrong then the US Government is wrong too.

State Statutes are not applicable outside of your state, and are never applicable outside of the United States.

Who is saying that it is?

What about this I told you to explain.  can you explain it?
Quote from: z_k_g on Today at 08:29:11 AM
At no time is there a Federal "age of consent law", it doesn't exist.  Federal "age of consent" Statutes are applicable only to international or interstate crime.
In this sentence you say it does not exist & then it exist but is only applicable to international or interstate. Which one is it? it does not exist or only for international/interstate? before you answer remember a statue is a law.

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[z_k_g]

Kfc,

Lets walk through this one step at a time, taking your last point first.

First, the Federal government does not have a national "age of consent" statute.

The Federal government does have "age of consent" statutes that are invoked in the case of an interstate crime.

The Interpol document is totally incorrect as it reads, because it implies that 16 is the age of consent for the entire country, which we know is not the case.


So the Interpol's statement:
"The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"- Incorrect statement

The correct interpretation of the US Federal statutes should read:
"In the USA each state sets its own statutory standards which range from 14 to 16, however interstate age of consent for sexual activity is 16" - Correct.

Clear?

Zulu

[thekfc]

Kfc,

Lets walk through this one step at a time, taking your last point first.

First, the Federal government does not have a national "age of consent" statute.

The Federal government does have "age of consent" statutes that are invoked in the case of an interstate crime.

The Interpol document is totally incorrect as it reads, because it implies that 16 is the age of consent for the entire country, which we know is not the case.


So the Interpol's statement:
"The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"- Incorrect statement

The correct interpretation of the US Federal statutes should read:
"In the USA each state sets its own statutory standards which range from 14 to 16, however interstate age of consent for sexual activity for the is 16" - Correct.

Clear?

Zulu

Can you please provide links  & proof to back up your statements?

Please back up what you are saying with links & proof.

And if you CANNOT provide the links & proof to back up what you are saying (including 18 period!) then what you are saying mean nothing.

No links - no proof - no cookies!!!!!!!!!!!

[z_k_g]

Kfc,

I already have in previous posts.

I love cookies! chocolate chip mostly!!

 

Zulu

[thekfc]

Kfc,

I already have in previous posts.

I love cookies! chocolate chip mostly!!

 

Zulu

Sorry I don't see any of your links & proof to back up what you are saying, I think that I am blind & dumb - can you re-post it.

Why can you re-post them?
Please do not be afraid of re-posting them.

[z_k_g]

KFc,

You are the one who posted the Interpol document, not me.

I said that:

"The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"

is an incorrect statement.

Prove that statement from the Interpol document.

Show the Federal Statute.

Oh yeah, I like milk with my cookies!  

Zulu

[thekfc]

KFc,

You are the one who posted the Interpol document, not me.

I said that:

"The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"

is an incorrect statement.

Prove that statement from the Interpol document.

Show the Federal Statue.

Oh yeah, I like milk with my cookies!   

Zulu

Zulu,
I am asking you to provide links & proof of the stuff YOU are talking about - Proof & links to back up YOUR post/statements.

Why can't you provide links & proof to back up what your are saying?

What are you afraid of?

Please provide links & proof to back up what YOU are saying/posted through THIS thread.

[z_k_g]

KFC,

YOU posted a document that was incorrect.  

Show the Federal law that document refers to.

I challenge the Interpol document, it not law and you present it as law.

Show the Federal Law!

Zulu

[z_k_g]

KFC,

I have posted links in response to the every statement I have made in this thread.

The links are to statutes (law), or treaty.

All you have to do is look at the previous posts and you will see  the links.

You have posted an Interpol document that refers to US law but makes an incorrect statement.

I have challenged that document.

Show the Federal Statutes that state "The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"

Zulu

[thekfc]

KFC,

YOU posted a document that was incorrect.  

Show the Federal law that document refers to.

I challenge the Interpol document, it not law and you present it as law.

Show the Federal Law!

Zulu

Zulu, You said that the document that I posted is incorrect - can you prove that it is incorrect? show the proof that it is incorrect.

On the Interpol page it says:
In order to set up a base document regarding legislation of the member countries of the International Criminal Police Organization-INTERPOL on child sex abuse, we asked member countries to provide us with a summary of the applicable legal texts regarding these offences.

That was provided to them from the US Government.
Here is the link:
http://www.interpol.int/public/children/sexualabuse/nationallaws/default.asp

And Zulu, EVERYONE who is reading this thread is WAITING for you to provide proof & links that what I posted is incorrect - Please provide the proof.

[thekfc]

KFC,

I have posted links in response to the every statement I have made in this thread.

The links are to statutes (law), or treaty.

All you have to do is look at the previous posts and you will see  the links.

You have posted an Interpol document that refers to US law but makes an incorrect statement.

I have challenged that document.

Show the Federal Statutes that state "The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16"

Zulu

Zulu, I am blind, dumb, stupid & cannot read.

Can you please educate me by re-posting the links that you previously posted.

Interpol said something on their website & you challenges that document.  Can you prove them wrong? Show the proof to prove them wrong

[thekfc]

Zulu, this is from Cornell Law School:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/usc_sec_10_00000920----000-.html

It says that: Child.— The term “child” means any person who has not attained the age of 16 years.

You say it is 18, Period! So they must be wrong too.

[robert angel]

This thread is getting ridiculously long and worst yet, confusing. In a lot of countries, girls underage and very often with real or very real looking legal ID's will try to get you to have sex. Some of them work with the cops, setting up guys who go to horrific jails and may spend thousands of dollars to eventually get out. It's a big, all too common racket in many nations.

Just realze that you may have to simply. 'guess' whether she's really. 18 y/o or not or else risking a VERY expensive prison 'experience'. Eye ball em before you ball them and use common sense. Yes, 18 y/o unmarried if you're a foreigner IS the law.

Can we all move on now??

[z_k_g]

Kfc,

The Interpol statement "The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16" is prima facia incorrect.

Only the states have the capacity to set "Age of Consent" laws.

You have the burden to prove a national age of consent via Federal Statute.

I  contend that law does not exist.

Show that law.

Zulu

[z_k_g]

Zulu, this is from Cornell Law School:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/usc_sec_10_00000920----000-.html

It says that: Child.— The term “child” means any person who has not attained the age of 16 years.

You say it is 18, Period! So they must be wrong too.

KFC,

When I refer to a child, this is according to the International treaty that establishes a childs age at 18 and the law of the land, USA, a child is anyone under 18, the age of majority, which means you are officially an adult.  

Under 18, a child by law in the United States.  

Here you go again citing meaningless documents, like the Interpol document, and using those documents as authoritative law.

Show the law.

Zulu

[thekfc]

Zulu, I have provide links & proof - they may or may not be correct - I concede that they may be wrong BUT I provided them.

Unless you can prove me wrong - unless you provide proof & links to backup what you (Mr. Zulu) is saying then - EVERYTHING that you say IS MEANINGLESS - it is nothing but CRAP.

[z_k_g]

Kfc,

I've provided law link for every statement I've made in the is thread, go and look.

On the other hand, you provides a link that says we have a "The Federal Age of consent for sexual activity for the USA is 16" and all I ask is to see the law.

What do you want me to prove?

That only states have the rights to establish "age of consent"?

I'm honestly confused.

Zulu

[robert angel]

ZKG & KFC,

Look guys, you're both well liked and respected here but maybe you should consider continuing your 'dialogue' between the two of you on this topic in PM's or yahoo. It's almost getting flamatory and when someone goes into forums here, it's about all they see. How about it guys? Or do you think we should bring Alabama boy back to moderate this discourse? Ha-ha.....

[z_k_g]

ZKG & KFC,

Look guys, you're both well liked and respected here but maybe you should consider continuing your 'dialogue' between the two of you on this topic in PM's or yahoo. It's almost getting flamatory and when someone goes into forums here, it's about all they see. How about it guys? Or do you think we should bring Alabama boy back to moderate this discourse? Ha-ha.....

Robert,

I think that KFC should take a good read of the constitution and read up on the 10th and 11th amendments concerning  Federal power and its limitations.

I haven't made any inflammatory remarks to the KFC.

Zulu

[thekfc]

ZKG & KFC,

Look guys, you're both well liked and respected here but maybe you should consider continuing your 'dialogue' between the two of you on this topic in PM's or yahoo. It's almost getting flamatory and when someone goes into forums here, it's about all they see. How about it guys? Or do you think we should bring Alabama boy back to moderate this discourse? Ha-ha.....

You are right Robert....but there is no need to continue this "not even back of house".

All I did ask for was for a re-post of the links but it was never done. If the re-post of the links was provided I don't think that this would have never gotten this far.

You say that you provided links for EVERY statement that you made but I went to look but I couldn't find them. But anyway you are correct & I am wrong.

I will be the better man - I will humbly concede. 

[thekfc]

Robert,

I think that KFC should take a good read of the constitution and read up on the 10th and 11th amendments concerning  Federal power and its limitations.

I haven't made any inflammatory remarks to the KFC.

Zulu

hey, I never said that you made any inflammatory comments to me. Where is that coming from?

[thekfc]

To all the members on the Latin side, I apologize for coming over & taking over one of your thread. 

[robert angel]

ZKG,
Repeatedly saying things like "get it?" -- "You got it now?" And basically beating a horse long dead and and boring to wit in a somewhat condescending way---ie "basic high school civiics" just doesn t seem like your better natured style. It's not doing anybody any good and you guys are log jamming up 90%+  of the forum space for days. Since it'd basically between the two of you and not helping others, why not go PM?

Best holiday wishes,
Rob

[thekfc]

It's not doing anybody any good and you guys are log jamming up 90%+  of the forum space for days. Since it'd basically between the two of you and not helping others, why not go PM?

Robert, all the members were away & busy buying me, oops I mean their family x-mas gifts, so I kept it going until you guys return after buying me the gifts.

So what did you get me for x-mas?