foreigners drugged with Scopolamine: "Zombie drug"

[mudd]

Was talking to my friend who lives in Medellin today, and where I will be staying this next trip. I was asking "what’s up in Medellin, anything new or eventful".  So he tells me about 3 gringos who I personally know and one other guy that I don’t.  All 4 were recently drugged by girls in Medellin and robbed.

So I had to ask how in the hell did that happen, I was thinking maybe in a taxi or something, because thats happened before, but apparently,  all 4 guys met these girls, either on internet dating sites, or in a restaurant or bar. On guy was taken to the emergency room by the portereria (sp)(security guards) and they had to give him some other drug to contradict the 1st drug.

3 of the guys were robbed, cash, credit cards, passports, laptops, cell phones.  One guy, they took just about everything in his apartment they could even the sheets on his bed.   

The 4th guy felt something immediately wrong and threw the girl out of the apartment and locked the door and then passed out on the floor. He didn’t wake up until 4 pm the next day and only when my friend was calling him and calling him because he missed an appointment and went by to check on him and was banging on the door for 10 minutes.

Wow, getting bad in Medellin, you really have to be careful. never let your drink unattended.   Has anybody heard this happening a lot recently anyplace else?

[utopiacowboy]

You're such a kill joy, Mudd. The rest of us love reading stories like this. I wish Medellin would return to the days when they had 7000 homicides a year and you really had to have pelotas to go there.

[mudd]

jajajajaj sorry, just passing on what i know and hear, even if its bad.

[whitey]

Sounds like these guys are picking up putas ... risky behavior.

I just finished reading a book by Jonathan Kellerman called "Over the Edge", written in 1987.  It's a fiction novel and the basic plot was that an heir to a fortune was systematically poisoned by his step mother with drugs that made him appear crazy, so that they could institutionalize him and gain control of the estate.  

The step mother had done some post grad volunteer work in Colombia, and learned how to use certain drugs from the indiginous people like belladonna and scopolamine to both control the step child, and to make him hallucinate.

Looks like this stuff has been around for a loooong time ...  

[Zon]

I am aware of this happening in Cali - several examples.

Pretty easy to solve, drink shots only. Don't pick up strange women at night.

Interesting, but this became a rule of thumb for me:  If I did not know somebody before the evening, I kept my distance.  New relationships that happen in the evening seem suspicious to me if you are familiar with how things work in Colombia (maybe less applicable in Bogota, with much more modern cities and professionals).

This is one of the great values of a local guide / friend.

[z_k_g]

While probably true this story is retold every so many many months, sometimes Rio, Paris or Nyc, now Medellin.

I heard many variations also, kidney removed and wake up in bathtub full of ice with note on door, etc.

Moral: Always be watchful of your date and your surroundings!

Zulu

[mudd]

While probably true this story is retold every so many many months, sometimes Rio, Paris or Nyc, now Medellin.

I heard many variations also, kidney removed and wake up in bathtub full of ice with note on door, etc.

Moral: Always be watchful of your date and your surroundings!

probably true, but unfortunately, i actually know 3 of these guys, not saying they are the sharpest tool in the shed jajajajaj but at least i know it happened.

im sure it probably happens a lot more often, but victims are probably to  embarrassed to say it happened to them, in fear of looking like a idiot jajajaj

[Jedimaster]

Mudd,

I also heard that 3 guys in Medellin were drugged and then robbed by paisas.  Here is what I heard so far:

Two of the guys were using Col Cupid to look for dates--the first guy was a tourist who was staying at a hotel in Medellin.  He was using CC to look for a date and he found a woman who was smokin hot.  Anyway, she meets him for lunch at a restaurant and they have a couple drinks--apparently he wasnt watching his drinks all that closely.

They returned to the hotel and the full effect of the drug kicks in and he is out for the whole night and most of the next day.  When he wakes up, he discovers that his laptop is gone along with some of his other valuables.

The second guy apparently lives in Medellin and has an apartment there.  He saw the woman on Col Cupid, they started to chat and they  decide to meet in LLeras if I remember correctly.  So they meet in a park talk some more and eventually decide to return to his apartment.  

He prepared some drinks and long story short--she slips something in his drink while  he is not looking.  He  started to feel nauseated and had the girl leave, After she left, he locked the door and passed out.

[Gato4Astrid]

When I was in Medellin a month ago, a taxi driver told my girlfriend that he heard about gringos were drugged in nightclubs and passed out.  Later on, they had took their eyes out !!!

Another one, taxi driver also told my girlfriend that he recently had an American man in the taxi, asking him where to find drugs.  The taxi driver stopped the car and threw him out .........

[Nadie]

One time at band camp, I heard about a guy who took some kind of drug, and he woke up the next day in a vat of tomato juice, with worms crawling out of his ears.

[Jedironin]

Never... Ever... take a taxi to band camp! 

[Researcher]

One time at band camp, I heard about a guy who took some kind of drug, and he woke up the next day in a vat of tomato juice, with worms crawling out of his ears.

  Sounds more like bandito camp!

 Researcher

[mudd]

One time at band camp, I heard about a guy who took some kind of drug, and he woke up the next day in a vat of tomato juice, with worms crawling out of his ears.

jajjaaj funny, i loved that movie 

[Bob_S]

probably true, but unfortunately, i actually know 3 of these guys, not saying they are the sharpest tool in the shed jajajajaj but at least i know it happened.

im sure it probably happens a lot more often, but victims are probably to  embarrassed to say it happened to them, in fear of looking like a idiot jajajaj

At some point in our lives, we are all forced to pay a stupid tax.  Some more than others!

[JimD]

From wikipedia:

There are unfounded circulating rumors that a transcutaneous delivery mechanism using business cards, pamphlets or flyers laced with the drug, could be effective. In actual fact, the quantity of toxin diffusing through the skin barrier after one short contact of the fingers with an object is much too small to be readily absorbed in the body and to have any significant effect. The use of burundanga (aka Scopolamine) impregnated visit cards to attack and to rob isolated people is often propagated by chain emails and is presently reported as hoax or urban legend by many specialised web sites.[15][16][17]

Approximately one in five emergency room admissions for poisoning in Bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[18] In June 2008, more than 20 people were hospitalized with psychosis in Norway after ingesting counterfeit Rohypnol tablets containing scopolamine.[19]

There have been occasional reports of tourists being robbed after having scopolamine slipped into their food or drink. Recently, these incidents have been reported in Thailand.[20]

Treatment for scopolamine attack is one of the coverages listed in the Coomeva health insurence plan (Colombia) due to adverse effects on vision.

[z_k_g]

Nice Stories!!   

Zulu

[fathertime]

Nice story Mudd!

That was a great move by the guy to quickly shoo the girl out of the room before she could ransack his place.  I wonder what he was thinking the following day when he woke up in the middle of the afternoon.  Did he say what went through his mind?    One second he feels like he about to bone down with a hot babe and the next he wakes up in a puddle of drool and urine 20 hours later.  That would be a horrid feeling to be that vulnerable.  I bet none of those goofballs allow themselves to be set up like that again!

Fathertime!

[soltero]

I am pretty sure that I got dosed with something one time in Cali a few years ago. I was at a club with some friends and since they were sitting at our table, I got up and left with a girl and we went off together for awhile and I left my beer there with my friends. When I came back, I downed the last gulp without really thinking about it, and about 15 minutes later while walking out, my legs started to give on the stirs and I had to slowly make my way out of the club. I waited for a while while they hailed a cab and I got sick and nauseated as the cab pulled up.

I asked them to pull over as I felt like I was going to heave, but I kept it in, and after 5 minutes, asked the driver to continue. When we got back to the apartment, I fell like a sack of potatoes at the gate, and awoke to the guards getting a big laugh out of the stupid drunk (I just had the one beer) as I drug myself thru the gate and to the elevator. When I got upstairs, I started shaking and was about to go out again, but had some juice and started to feel better. It may have just been low blood sugar, but it was pretty weird, and I haven't experienced anything like that (except low blood sugar except for the sickness) before or since.

[ignorante]

Mudd,

I also heard that 3 guys in Medellin were drugged and then robbed by paisas.  Here is what I heard so far:

Two of the guys were using Col Cupid to look for dates--the first guy was a tourist who was staying at a hotel in Medellin.  He was using CC to look for a date and he found a woman who was smokin hot.  Anyway, she meets him for lunch at a restaurant and they have a couple drinks--apparently he wasnt watching his drinks all that closely.

They returned to the hotel and the full effect of the drug kicks in and he is out for the whole night and most of the next day.  When he wakes up, he discovers that his laptop is gone along with some of his other valuables.

The second guy apparently lives in Medellin and has an apartment there.  He saw the woman on Col Cupid, they started to chat and they  decide to meet in LLeras if I remember correctly.  So they meet in a park talk some more and eventually decide to return to his apartment.  

He prepared some drinks and long story short--she slips something in his drink while  he is not looking.  He  started to feel nauseated and had the girl leave, After she left, he locked the door and passed out.

Well, then, it ought not to be to difficult to find her again . . .  post her profile for us.

[mudd]

Nice story Mudd!

That was a great move by the guy to quickly shoo the girl out of the room before she could ransack his place.  I wonder what he was thinking the following day when he woke up in the middle of the afternoon.  Did he say what went through his mind?    One second he feels like he about to bone down with a hot babe and the next he wakes up in a puddle of drool and urine 20 hours later.  That would be a horrid feeling to be that vulnerable.  I bet none of those goofballs allow themselves to be set up like that again!

Fathertime!

my friend said her profile was deleted from colombian cupid the next day.

i will talk to 2 of the  guys in person  in a few days when i arrive there.
i cant wait to give them a ration of [snip] jajajajajaja

[Bob_S]

I am pretty sure that I got dosed with something one time in Cali a few years ago....When I came back, I downed the last gulp without really thinking about it, and about 15 minutes later while walking out, my legs started to give on the stirs and I had to slowly make my way out of the club. I waited for a while while they hailed a cab and I got sick and nauseated as the cab pulled up.
I asked them to pull over as I felt like I was going to heave, but I kept it in, and after 5 minutes, asked the driver to continue. When we got back to the apartment, I fell like a sack of potatoes at the gate, and awoke to the guards getting a big laugh out of the stupid drunk (I just had the one beer) as I drug myself thru the gate and to the elevator. When I got upstairs, I started shaking and was about to go out again, but had some juice and started to feel better. It may have just been low blood sugar,

That, or maybe they were watering down their beer with the local tap water and you got a little dose of Montazuma's Revenge.   

[utopiacowboy]

That, or maybe they were watering down their beer with the local tap water and you got a little dose of Montazuma's Revenge.   

All kidding aside, Colombia is not Mexico. You can drink the tap water in the big cities.

[whitey]

All kidding aside, Colombia is not Mexico. You can drink the tap water in the big cities.

Maybe in Bogota and Medellin, but in Barranquilla I used to have a fever and the runs for a couple days each trip.  We finally figured out that it was the tap water in the juice I'd have at my wife's house for lunch.  Once my mother-in-law started using bottled water for me, I haven't had the problem again.   

[utopiacowboy]

Maybe in Bogota and Medellin, but in Barranquilla I used to have a fever and the runs for a couple days each trip.  We finally figured out that it was the tap water in the juice I'd have at my wife's house for lunch.  Once my mother-in-law started using bottled water for me, I haven't had the problem again.   

I've drunk the tap water in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Monteria and Sincelejo. No problems anywhere.

[JimD]

The quality of the tap water often depends on the strata of the barrio. In the low stratas in Cali many people use filters the most popular being Bel-Ozono.