Riots in the streets 2008-2013 style.

[fathertime]

i understand that they were using the korans to write notes in (against islamic law) & then pass them to other terrorists in the jail. so after finding out all of this they were ordered destroyed....what is the problem???
 
 
p i g 

hehehe, i agree with you on this one poglett. since they were using the korans as way to secretly communicate with each other then they needed to be destroyed, or perhaps they would have preferred that the books be stored at our expense in some holy spot. 


back when that preacher was going to burn the korans i was for that too, not because i necessarily dislike the religion, but just because it was such a taboo that extremists choose to overreact to...it is a way to expose them and either kill them or let them kill each other!


Fathertime! 

[piglett]

hehehe, i agree with you on this one poglett. since they were using the korans as way to secretly communicate with each other then they needed to be destroyed
Fathertime!

just so i fully understand you FT
what are you saying needs to be destroyed?
the tainted korans or the nut job 6th century throwback terrorists?
 
 
pig

[Bob_S]

What I want to know is, who the hell leaked that they had been burned at all?  Once the books have been reduced to ash, how could you tell what they ever were?  Loose lips sunk our ship. 

[piglett]

What I want to know is, who the hell leaked that they had been burned at all?  Once the books have been reduced to ash, how could you tell what they ever were?  Loose lips sunk our ship. 

well they were found in the trash that was going to be burned is the 411 i got. 1 good 55 gallon drum & a couple of gallons of #2 diesel would have headed off a bunch of problems. dumb @sses
 
pig

[fathertime]

just so i fully understand you FT
what are you saying needs to be destroyed?
the tainted korans or the nut job 6th century throwback terrorists?
 
 
pig

well pigglet,
i see several more american troops were killed today over these korans....i probably wouldn't be a good leader because if it were me that was pulling the strings, there would be a lot of dead islamic extremists over this...but instead we continue to apologize.


Fathertime!

[Ray]

Stinking little hypocrites!
　
While they burn our flag and murder people, then want to execute someone for changing his religion, this worthless president of ours bows and scrapes and apologizes to them? One more year of this idiot…
　
I would wait for the next street demonstration and drop a laser-guided MOAB right in the middle of their stinking arses. That should shut the hairy perverts up for a while…
　
　

[piglett]

　
I would wait for the next street demonstration and drop a laser-guided MOAB right in the middle of their stinking arses. That should shut the hairy perverts up for a while…
　
　

i like the way your thinking Ray 

[fathertime]

Stinking little hypocrites!
　
While they burn our flag and murder people, then want to execute someone for changing his religion, this worthless president of ours bows and scrapes and apologizes to them? One more year of this idiot…
　
I would wait for the next street demonstration and drop a laser-guided MOAB right in the middle of their stinking arses. That should shut the hairy perverts up for a while…
　
　

i am completely disgusted with our foreign policy


1.  we morally assist the rebels in egypt and now as of today they extort 5million from our govt. (taxpayers) for those hostages
2.  we use good american young adults in iraq and afghanistan and the general population hates us.
3.  we militarily help the 'rebels' oust quadafi, and now the country is ruled by extremists that will work against us.
4.  syria...who the hell knows what we do, but we should just keep to ourselves and let Dr Assad rule his country and keep his rabble rousers in check. it is not our business to actively help him get overthrown. 


we should just stfu and stay the hell out of those countries and permit them to commit whatever atrocities they want in the name of their religion....or at a minimum when we feel it is necessary to go in there for our own interests, we should go in their and be ruthless, just like they are!

Fathertime!

[fathertime]

I forgot about one of the most recent outrages.  The taxpayers just spent another 750k for a soccer field at Guantanamo Bay for the Terror prisoners.  How the hell does a soccer field cost 750K? Is it made out of gold?


 Boy I think that is great, i think all prisoners of war should have brand new expensive soccer fields. I can't think of a better use of our tax dollars.  Really I think we should be giving these afghan terror suspects some extra nutrition and gatorade after they exercise too.  I don't understand why they can't have weekend passes or have nightly conjugal visits, us taxpayers should be the ones paying for them to be whisked around Cuba in a limo, that would be a splendid use of tax dollars too. 


Fathertime! 

[Researcher]

    The Gitmo soccer field is being built while Obama has decided to cut insurance coverage for the military.  Thanks Obama.



      Researcher

[Bob_S]

well they were found in the trash that was going to be burned is the 411 i got. ...dumb @sses

But found by whom?  If by our guys, why the hell didn't they keep their mouth shut?  If by locals scrounging through the trash heap, why not blame the prisoners?  It was all handled very stupidly.

[thekfc]

I am not sure about other areas/states but here in NYC the "Occupy Wall Street May Day Protest" have a huge turnout - the crowd is massive.


With the weather being nice and people joining after getting off work - the crowd grew.  It took about an hour for the protesters to pass us here in Soho.


Even Ms. Piggy and her buddies were there.

[Ray]

 
May Day always brings the commies out of their holes...
 
 
 
 
 

[fathertime]

all of those backwards middle east countries sure appreciate all that financial aid all us foolish tax payers are paying...when will it be time for our nation to quit borrowing our children's money to give to those arab idiots?  let them destroy each other if that is what they want to do.   I bet 75% of the general population would vote to cut off aid to these countries but our politicians override us.


Fathertime!

[Ray]

 

[fathertime]

hey  Bozo! 


I recently saw what I felt was the best nuclear war movie ever.  It was made in the mid 80s in britain. Check it out and let me know what you think...the movie seemed very realistic and sort of parallels what is happening in the world today at this very moment. 
here is the utube link to the entire movie.
Threads
Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

In light of the ‘default’ talks I thought I would reanimate this old corpse of a thread.  Much of what I felt was going to happen has never materialized and I am not sure how much longer the music plays here in the US of A. 
Regarding the debt limit.  How the hell has it become a way a life that we never pay off our debts and simply demand a credit line increase?  It is a joke that when the politicians say we have to ‘pay’ our prior bills by borrowing more money…to my thinking, paying our bills is exactly what we ARE NOT doing when increase the credit line. Since 2001 or so, we have been borrowing at a completely unsustainable rate and have never took our medicine.  Life has been pretty good here for most of us, even most of the poor are well fed, or even fat, and through entitlements have many luxuries.  Despite this, our violent crime rate is pretty damn high, which makes me wonder what might happen if it gets to the point where there is genuine widespread hardships, like you might see in Colombia or most of the rest of the world.
I’d like to see some real cuts across the board to the point where we are no longer increasing the debt.  We should be paying it down if anything.  I’d like to hear some other perspectives.


Fathertime!   

[Researcher]

Well FT you were pretty darn close with your prediction. If the US didn't have a strong currency things would have been much worse. That is the only thing that has kept us afloat and the government sure is milking it. If it continues the dollar will be worthless when another currency is strong enough to take its place. Then we will be up a river of excrement without any form of propulsion.

[fathertime]

Well FT you were pretty darn close with your prediction. If the US didn't have a strong currency things would have been much worse. That is the only thing that has kept us afloat and the government sure is milking it. If it continues the dollar will be worthless when another currency is strong enough to take its place. Then we will be up a river of excrement without any form of propulsion.

Well buddy, I just read through a rundown of what is likely to happen if we do pass up the Debt Ceiling deadline and what would happen would be pretty drastic...As a nation we would need to cut the budget 32% overnight in order to avoid defaulting on either SS or Medicare, Military Pay/benefits...I imagine that Obozo would pull out some sort of stop like declaring an emergency and somehow forestall the inevitable. 
I would like to see a real solution involving cuts that the house/senate/obozo can agree on.  Something has to happen fixing the underlying problem.  How has it ever made sense that we would be borrowing this kind of money, while giving cash in foreign aid to many countries...it is outrageous.  I would thik those would be the very first things to be cut...bringing our military home from around the world where it is costing more than it is bringing in would also be sensible....cutting the amount each individual gets from welfare type programs also makes sense...raising taxes also has to be on the table if these other things occur.  I'm sure there is some other stuff I'm missing. 


Fathertime!

[Ray]

 
Here FT, read this for another perspective:
 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2013/10/03/dont-believe-the-debt-ceiling-hype-the-federal-government-can-survive-without-an-increase/
 
 
 

[fathertime]

Here FT, read this for another perspective:
 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2013/10/03/dont-believe-the-debt-ceiling-hype-the-federal-government-can-survive-without-an-increase/

Hey bozo, thanks for the perspective…I have a couple issues with the article you linked…
1.        They propose cutting education funding in half to save 40billion….I’d have to see exactly what that would entail, but I can’t imagine that being close to feasible…
2.       If indeed they make all the cuts proposed, I’m guessing they will be getting quite a bit less in tax receipts which would foul up their 3trillion budget up, if they only wind up getting say 2.5 trillion..I'm guessing a lot more people would be unemployed and that issue wasn't addressed.
3.       Science funding cut to 10billion…well I don’t think they gave what this number started at so it is hard to say if that is a reasonable cut or not…in addition it is hard for an outsider like me to say if that science funding ultimately brings in more money through new technology than it spends.
But overall that is the type of solution that seems possibly plausible…with a few tweaks…I don’t believe we should continue to raise the debt ceiling a trillion dollars at a time like we have been doing…those idiots will just keep spending unless they are starved for cash, without a way to get more….I’m still disgusted when I heard they were sending pallets of cash to Afghanistan (some of which was stolen), who the hell gave them the right? The American people were outraged!


Fathertime! 

[Ray]

 
Bozo Jr.,
 
I think the main point of the article was that all this Obozo/Democrat hype about defaulting on the debt is just so much more scare tactic horse shyt from the left.
 
The Dems keep promising that we will automatically default on our debt service on Thusday if we don't raise the debt limit immediately. Anyone who says that is either ignorant, a liar, or both.
 
If we default on the debt interest payments, it will be because Obozo wants to default. There is plenty of money coming in to pay the interest due for some time. Eventually, cuts would have to be made somewhere, but defaulting on our debt would be a willful act, NOT anything that automatically happens.
 
 
Ray
 
 
 

[fathertime]

Bozo Jr.,
 
I think the main point of the article was that all this Obozo/Democrat hype about defaulting on the debt is just so much more scare tactic horse shyt from the left.
 
The Dems keep promising that we will automatically default on our debt service on Thusday if we don't raise the debt limit immediately. Anyone who says that is either ignorant, a liar, or both.
 
If we default on the debt interest payments, it will be because Obozo wants to default. There is plenty of money coming in to pay the interest due for some time. Eventually, cuts would have to be made somewhere, but defaulting on our debt would be a willful act, NOT anything that automatically happens.
 
 
Ray

Well Bozo Sr,  it looks like the can has been kicked down the road a little further...I'm just hoping they can keep kicking it for maybe the next 100 or so years.

[no comment]

     I recently read a short piece about how the upcoming 'riots' are occuring.  I agree with the piece.

     When enough people drop out of the system it is no longer a system and my belief has been and continues to be the ‘system’ we have lived under is in the process of a complete collapse.  Just amongst the people I come in contact with, more and more of them are just not paying their bills, credit cards, mortgages, hospital stays, anything that involves credit is not safe anymore. Much of our system relies on credit and these are regular middle class folks.

 The economy is still losing jobs, and govt. officials are now admitting the old job figures we got were wrong (intentionally falsified) and the reality was about 2million jobs worse, that is NOT a small number.  One question about that though.  If the govt is now admitting that 2million less jobs were created in the prior 12 month period, why did this new revised FACT not factor into the current unemployment number?  I mean does anybody REALLY believe that unemployment is 9.6%?    Moving on, some say that we aren’t losing AS MANY jobs, that is true, but if we were losing jobs at 600k a month, there would be no jobs left at all in a short time.   There just isn’t that many overall jobs to losing that sort of number month after month, and year after year. 

     If people can’t afford health insurance they get on a govt/state plan, or they simply show up at the hospital and demand treatment (which they get) on everybody else’s nickel.  I have even heard of a middle class ‘man’ that brought his foreign brides over and then PLANNED on dumping her on the hospital system if she became ill, because there is little consequence to doing this (except substandard medical care for her).  That is a soft form of rebellion/lawlessness, regardless of any trivial justification that this person dredges up.  The lawlessness is running wild and it is the middle class that is leading the way.  It may look a little different, but it continues to up steam Will it lead directly/indirectly to riots in the streets?  Once the lower classes begin to suffer greatly,  (and some trigger occurs) then we may see traditional rioting.  Interestingly the food stamp program (43million people and growing) and the govt. health care program, may mitigate some of the discontent in the short term.  I can’t help but think that there are people in smoke-filled rooms that have everything plotted out.    I’m not entirely clear on what these people's intentions are though, things were rolling along pretty well in this country for a long time before say 1999 or so.  We all best prepare.

Well anyway, these are my thoughts and her is the link to the aforementioned article
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gonzalo-lira-coming-middle-class-anarchy

Fathertime!

We've finally exceeded the time limit to see "riots in the streets 2008-2013 style" without seeing the kind of riots that would fit the criteria of the original post. No doubt the government is living on borrowed money and borrowed time but the prophecy hasn't come true.


I'd like to read an update of Fathertime's state of the union.


 

[fathertime]

We've finally exceeded the time limit to see "riots in the streets 2008-2013 style" without seeing the kind of riots that would fit the criteria of the original post. No doubt the government is living on borrowed money and borrowed time but the prophecy hasn't come true.


I'd like to read an update of Fathertime's state of the union.

NC!  Long time no hear!!


I don't know about riots anymore...I would hope the worst is over, but it is hard to say...I don't know that many issues have really been resolved.  (illegal aliens, food stamps, unemployment, SS)..but maybe they don't need to be.....I have always loved gloom and doom...there is hardly an end of the world movie I haven't seen...just was a little hobby of mine.


For me personally the stock market is great and business is very strong so that has been very good for me   nowadays...i got a lot invested in college funds and since they are coming into play soon, I delight in seeing the amounts swell
....my close friend was on the same gloom and doom bandwagon and took all his money outta the US stock market in 2009...and went into international funds...it has been a disaster to the tune of about 1 million dollars...I kinda accepted the fact that i was going to lose my ass but then went on to get lucky now that the stock market is up 100% since 2009.  i bought a house (short sale) at the very bottom of the market here in s. CA and just like the old days I have more than 225k in phony equity, all in a very short period of time, the greedy monster in me says i should have bought more!  ...don't know what to make of it all.   I kinda lost interest NC, it was a moment in time for me...I was wrong about the severity of things, unless something weird happens...I think Obama was the right man at the right time for the nation...I disagree with him on many issues, but unfortunately I feel he was the best choice among those that were serious contenders...now if we have a total meltdown sometime soon, my opinion might change on him too...
Whaddya think? 
Fathertime!