Riots in the streets 2008-2013 style.

[fathertime]

     I agree FT. We need to get out of the business of nation building and start rebuilding the one we have. It seems we always look for any reason to invade the countries that are the easiest to take over. How much terrorist activity is traced back to Iran and Syria? We aren't going to send the military there.The reason we can't find Bin Laden is because he is probably in one of these countries, like Pakistan, that we will not invade.I would rather see dollars going to help our own in this country than rebuilding another country for its citizens, who don't want us there to start with.

      There should be a remake of the 1959 movie The Mouse That Roared.It's about a small country that is in a financial bind and decides to attack the US, quickly surrender and get foreign aid.I think it is even more relevant today except countries don't have to provoke us.We are more than willing to shell out the cash to any country.



                                           



         Researcher

Hey thanks Researcher for the Movie.  I checked out the trailer from 1959 and it looked like it was a good movie for it's time.  I always liked Peter Sellers movies.  You should see the movie 'I love you Alice B. Toklas'....

Fathertime!

[Ray]

Hey Bozo!

Are you out of your freaking mind? You're starting to sound like one of them leftist whackos.

You want the military to pick grapes and strawberries? Pick your own damn grapes bozo!

Kicking out the illegals is a good idea, but not making the military into farm hands. Military retention is going to be tough enough with the gays taking over.

Yes, the men in the military are getting paid to risk their lives for you whether you have the stomach for it or not. They are NOT paid to be stinking strawberry pickers.

Sheesh!

 

[Researcher]

Won't happen. At least, not with Active Duty soldiers. It would be illegal.
Take a quick read: http://op-for.com/2009/02/title_10_title_32_posse_comita.html

      Here's a good article on the subject of using the military:

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/trebilcock.htm


      The problem is the federal government doesn't want to do anything about it.If they did  they would find a way around that law.

     Researcher

                      

[fathertime]

Hey Bozo!

Are you out of your freaking mind? You're starting to sound like one of them leftist whackos.

You want the military to pick grapes and strawberries? Pick your own damn grapes bozo!

Kicking out the illegals is a good idea, but not making the military into farm hands. Military retention is going to be tough enough with the gays taking over.

Yes, the men in the military are getting paid to risk their lives for you whether you have the stomach for it or not. They are NOT paid to be stinking strawberry pickers.

Sheesh!

 

Hey Ray!
My idea has some holes in it.  The crux of the idea is not to make the military into strawberry pickers, but I wouldn’t want the crop of strawberries to rot in the field while a new workforce was constructed so I thought the if necessary the military could be strawberry pickers until a proper work force was created.  We can let all the gay soldiers spearhead the strawberry picking and they can romantically feed each other grapes in the candlelight during the down time. 

We are wasting billions each week in the middle east, and in the end all I am seeing is a bunch of angry muslims that take pallets of our money and want us dangling from a pole.   

Bozo-Time! 

[Alabamaboy!]

Maybe Obama is letting the economy go down the toilet on purpose. I live in an agricultural area near Mexico and many of my clients are large scale produce farmers and they said that during the last two years there has been a shortage of good agricultural laborers because the economy is so bad here in the States that there has been a mass exodus of Mexicans, both legal and illegal, back to Mexico.

Many of my clients and workers are saying the same. There are not so many people dying to come to the States these days.

But thank goodness we have those 15 joking, laughing  border patrol agents sucking up about $80K per year, holding up traffic on I-8 between San Diego and AZ.

Maybe we could save a few 100 million if we reduce the number of border patrol agents since not too many people want to come here now.

[fathertime]

Once again I was just reading an article relating to the illegal aliens crossing the border.  It now seems that in the rare instances when the border patrol actually spots the Mexican illegals crossing, they let them go.  It is called TBS, (turn back south) the illegal is told to turn around and go back to Mexico.  So often times 10 minute later, the illegal is re-attempting to enter the USA.  This is such a ridiculous policy that I want to deficate on Napolitano's dinner plate. 

Among my solutions is, upon capture, these Illegals should be put in forced labor camps.  They should be forced to build the border wall, or dig ditches for irrigation channels.  They can work for bread and water and nothing more.  They want to work, we have plenty for them.  I bet if we started getting tough, with these illegals the crossings would stop in a hurry, but our pathetic govt. would rather enable several 1000 more to cross over today and set up shop with welfare for their children, and free education and healthcare. 

Fathertime!

[Researcher]

       Well FT, we are screwed on that front. Have you applied for your new driver's license for the state of Mexifornia?



                                   

     Researcher

[Alabamaboy!]

FT, I finally made it! I got tossed from the "other" forum because the weeping, sensitive, pushover, pansy, dork, abuse victim, meal ticket was getting his a** handed to him again in his own forum and decided to take all his toys and not play anymore.

It is amazing to me that a vagina as big as him could get a Colombiana to marry him. Even if they are in it only for a meal ticket or for the green card, I find it absolutely stunning that someone  could tolerate his adolescent girl like behavior. Even for a big pay out at the end. I would think they would be so turned off by him that they would just rather stay in Colombia.

Hey, remember those photos of you during Halloween where you were dressed up as some kind of nerd with the pants pulled up to the chest, the dorky hat, and all that??? Now I know who you were trying to be!!!!! That is a good one now that I think of it. You should tell Trump to post those pics over there.

The thing that got his goat was that I said we would have been much better off as a country if the US would have bailed out the US people rather than the Wall Street/Corporate gang. I said that if the Gov't would have paid out the $3 Trillion to the homeowners with mortgages, then it would have been a $67,500 check to each and that I feel that would have been much better than what we did.

But he seems to think there is no problem with the US economy and that you and I are just making up all these facts and figures.

Oh well, I was about the only one posting over there anyway so I guess he can play with his toys all by his wittle bitty self now.

[fathertime]

FT, I finally made it! I got tossed from the "other" forum because the weeping, sensitive, pushover, pansy, dork, abuse victim, meal ticket was getting his a** handed to him again in his own forum and decided to take all his toys and not play anymore.

It is amazing to me that a vagina as big as him could get a Colombiana to marry him. Even if they are in it only for a meal ticket or for the green card, I find it absolutely stunning that someone  could tolerate his adolescent girl like behavior. Even for a big pay out at the end. I would think they would be so turned off by him that they would just rather stay in Colombia.

Hey, remember those photos of you during Halloween where you were dressed up as some kind of nerd with the pants pulled up to the chest, the dorky hat, and all that??? Now I know who you were trying to be!!!!! That is a good one now that I think of it. You should tell Trump to post those pics over there.

The thing that got his goat was that I said we would have been much better off as a country if the US would have bailed out the US people rather than the Wall Street/Corporate gang. I said that if the Gov't would have paid out the $3 Trillion to the homeowners with mortgages, then it would have been a $67,500 check to each and that I feel that would have been much better than what we did.

But he seems to think there is no problem with the US economy and that you and I are just making up all these facts and figures.

Oh well, I was about the only one posting over there anyway so I guess he can play with his toys all by his wittle bitty self now.

Wow buddy, I'm happy to see you here and I think I mentioned to you several months ago that you would definitely get the boot at some point because little stevie from dallas, doesn't like when people start beating him up on his own site.  His tolerance for abuse has gone wayyyyyy down since I last posted there, I just read what you posted and you really didn't even say anything out of line. He must be getting kicked around again by his wife and stepson. 

Our govt. continues to falsify inflation numbers, and just about everything else...they have gotten so used to lying for political purposes, that they even take us into conflicts under false pretenses.  I anxiously await the chance to throw my vote away for another 3rd party candidate in 2012.

Regardless, the wool is over his eyes, the economy is slowly getting worse as it will continue to do so, until I don't know when.   

Fathertime!

[Ray]

  This is hilarious!
 
So little stevie wonder still has that gay forum running? What a sniveling little coward he is. He started his own forum because his buddies were getting banned from here, and now he's pulling the same crap that he was whining and crying about? Stinking little hypocrite!
 
I kind of miss bitch-slapping his little gay ass around. The pussy didn’t have the balls to stay here and try to defend his stupid cry-baby contention that the I-864 was unconstitutional, but instead ran off with his tail firmly tucked between his scrawny little legs…. ROTFLMAO!
 
Oh well,
 
Ray
　

[Alabamaboy!]

Yes, he has married his future ex wife....a Calena supposedly. I hope he does not let her knowingly run around with a bunch of other men right under his nose like he did last time. It is painful to watch things like this happen to such a weak man.

It is a shame that I have been banned there because all three of his forum members and all zero of his advertisers will probably be bored to tears by his one man band, since he is just a mindless, nutless blowhard who nobody even wants to hear about, not even his future ex wife.

[Researcher]

  I wonder if his future ex has a strong swingin' arm....


                                   


   Researcher

[Alabamaboy!]

Oh she's a swinger I bet! Jejejeje.....

[robert angel]

Man--I'm in the wrong line of work! I could be making $200,000 a year in my bathing suit, on beautiful beaches, surrounded by women in bikinis! I wonder how long a state can stay finanically solvent paying 51 year old retired life guards $108,000 a year for life, plus benefits?
 
Whole article--  http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2011/05/11/6625853-dude-wanna-make-some-big-bucks-try-lifeguarding?GT1=43001
 
 
 
Dude, wanna make some big bucks? Try lifeguardingNewport Beach By Ryan MacClanathan, contributor
 
Lifeguarding can be good gig: You get to work on your tan, the views are spectacular and there's the satisfaction of knowing you're protecting lives.
And if you work in Newport Beach, Calif., you can make David Hasselhoff-sized pay of more than $200,000 in wages and benefits.
Where do I sign up?
More than half the city's 14 full-time lifeguards collected more than $150,000 in total compensation last year, and two made more than $200,000, according to The Orange County Register.
A look at the 2010-2011 budget document suggests that much of the cost stems from health insurance and a reserve for pensions,  a fact confirmed by City Manager David Kiff.
"I think the base pay for the seasonal lifeguards and for entry- and mid-level full-time lifeguards is about right and is at the market rate for ocean lifeguards in California," Kiff said. "But the pension benefit is too costly and can't be sustained."
According to the budget document, the city's highest-paid lifeguard battalion chief gets an annual salary of about $119,000 and total compensation of $187,782. Overtime shifts and "night-time standby pay" pushed the chief's total compensation to $211,000 in 2010, Kiff said.
Other lifeguards get salaries ranging from $60,000 to $100,000, plus benefits valued at $42,000 to $62,000 per person, according to city figures.
To be fair, lifeguards provide a vital public service: An estimated 7.1 million people visited the city's beaches last year, and the Newport Beach lifeguard division, which is a part of the fire department, made 2,190 rescues. It's safe to say lifeguards working such a busy — and often treacherous — stretch of beach require a more specialized skill set than, say, the teens watching your local swimming pool.
The salaries and especially the benefits paid out to lifeguards have become a potent political issue in Southern California, with one advocacy group posting a YouTube video arguing that Newport Beach lifeguards enjoy the "lifestyle of the rich and famous."
The group, Americans for Prosperity-California, takes issue with pension benefits threatening to swamp many California municipalities. The video mentions one recently retired lifeguard, 51, who will get a government pension of $108,000 a year for life.
Brent Jacobsen, president of the Lifeguard Management Association, which represents the salaried lifeguards of Newport Beach, defended the compensation of the workers.
"We have negotiated very fair and very reasonable salaries in conjunction with comparable positions and other cities up and down the coast," he told the Register. "Lifeguard salaries here are well within the norm of other city employees."

[Researcher]

        Hey Robert, where do we sign up?!!!


         Researcher

[fathertime]

Yes RobertAngel these lifeguards are overpayed in my opinion when you consider that it is on the public's nickel.  Those retirement benefits are similar to teacher retirement benefits and are just too much.  90% salary at age 50 would be great if the rest of society didn't have to fund it, but the fact is somebody is paying for it and that is too much money to pay somebody for sitting around doing nothing for possibly 40-50 years.

Fathertime!

[robert angel]

FT,
Feel free to call me Robert--Unless some one's never exchanged banters or barbs with me here, don't ya think  'RobertAngel' sounds a wee bit clunky?
 
I agree that outside of a few key executive positions, that in a number of states, most govt. employees, including teachers, cops & firemen for starters, are over paid and that giving them full paid retirement way before age 60 is unrealistic. That's why the '90' formula is more and more popular, wherein your years of experience and actual age have to add up to 90 before they can force you out with a buyout offer. Any way you look at it, I think that working closer to age 60 and having to have a decent amount of years vested in the system needs to be the 'new reality'.
 
The tax system just can't support people retiring at age 48, drawing full retirement and then coming back and working in the same job all over again. I've seen that and I see people retiring in their 50's and coming back at or near to, their previous pay even more.
 
Honestly, while  I'd like to think if you've got a college degree required position and have over 30 years in, that retirement at age 55 ought to be an option,  (perhaps with a  penalty for years out before 60 and you can't draw on the pension til age 60), but as people are living longer and in many instances, where salaries are 'getting up there', we just can't sustain where we've gotten to in many places.
 
I don't think you'd see many people arguing that allowing people with High School Equivalency (GED) diplomas, working as life guards and toll booth money collectors, to not only make between $100,000 and 200,000  a year, but then to retire at age 48 after 30 years of days at the beach or collecting quarters and then going back to work with the same govt., is crazy. Even if you added bread and circuses into it all, it'd make the Romans before the fall of their Roman Empire look like Spartans. And like Nero, as Rome burned, too many people are just fiddling around!

[Ray]

...don't ya think  'RobertAngel' sounds a wee bit clunky?

It sounds kind of gay to me.
 
FT, why don't you just call him Bobozo for short?
 
 
 
 
 
 

[fathertime]

FT,
Feel free to call me Robert--Unless some one's never exchanged banters or barbs with me here, don't ya think  'RobertAngel' sounds a wee bit clunky?
 
I agree that outside of a few key executive positions, that in a number of states, most govt. employees, including teachers, cops & firemen for starters, are over paid and that giving them full paid retirement way before age 60 is unrealistic. That's why the '90' formula is more and more popular, wherein your years of experience and actual age have to add up to 90 before they can force you out with a buyout offer. Any way you look at it, I think that working closer to age 60 and having to have a decent amount of years vested in the system needs to be the 'new reality'.
 
The tax system just can't support people retiring at age 48, drawing full retirement and then coming back and working in the same job all over again. I've seen that and I see people retiring in their 50's and coming back at or near to, their previous pay even more.
 
Honestly, while  I'd like to think if you've got a college degree required position and have over 30 years in, that retirement at age 55 ought to be an option,  (perhaps with a  penalty for years out before 60 and you can't draw on the pension til age 60), but as people are living longer and in many instances, where salaries are 'getting up there', we just can't sustain where we've gotten to in many places.
 
I don't think you'd see many people arguing that allowing people with High School Equivalency (GED) diplomas, working as life guards and toll booth money collectors, to not only make between $100,000 and 200,000  a year, but then to retire at age 48 after 30 years of days at the beach or collecting quarters and then going back to work with the same govt., is crazy. Even if you added bread and circuses into it all, it'd make the Romans before the fall of their Roman Empire look like Spartans. And like Nero, as Rome burned, too many people are just fiddling around!

Well Robertangel, I am pretty comfy calling your Robertangel but i would really prefer to put the world 'the' in the middle. 
Ray's idea of bozo-bob is also a viable option! jaja 


I don't think a college degree should matter for much...i hear public school teachers here making over 100k a year always saying they deserve it because of their 'masters degree'...i ain't buying that, 100k for teaching is too much...teachers do have summers off so they can go lifeguard and bring in extra bucks if need be! 


Fathertime!

[no comment]

Let me get this thread back on topic, although the protests in Spain http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Inspired-by-Arab-Protests-Spains-Unemployed-Rally-for-Change-122237154.html  are not "riots in the streets."  Looks like there are some very educated unemployed people throughout Europe & the US.  Lack of education doesn't seem to be the problem there, yet our own government seems to believe that more spending on education and European style social programs is the answer to our problems.

[Gromit]

So little stevie wonder still has that gay forum running? What a sniveling little coward he is. He started his own forum because his buddies were getting banned from here, and now he's pulling the same crap that he was whining and crying about? Stinking little hypocrite!

Pssssst, Ray, he hates it when people call him Stevie.

[Gromit]

BTW, you do know what eFB stands for, correct?

[Researcher]

                                       This is your brain:

                                       

                                        This is your brain at eFB:

                                       

                                       Get it?

                                       Researcher

[fathertime]

Nice photos of good old stevie from dallas!!!! 


I can't think of many things less relevant than a board with 3-4 regular participants with little interesting to talk about.  Clearly this board has all others outclassed! 


NC, our govt has done a good job pacifying the right people in our nation.  The outrage is among the type of people least likely to riot. Those in the lower economic classes are getting more of a free ride now than ever!  Free rent for years, free food, no consequence for not paying debt, no deportation of the 20 million illegals and a few other perks for those likely to riot!


Fathertime!

[Alabamaboy!]

Where I am living the economy continues to tank. Out of 8 employees (including myself) in my office, only two of us left town for the holiday weekend, citing lack of cash. Even for myself, the highlight of my trip was finding some swapmeet deals on used DVD's, fruits/veggies, and just spending time playing with the kids at the park.

I don't hear anyone talking about  Seaworld, cruises, big amusement park trips, anything like that anymore.

And it seems like it is getting steadily worse.