Luisa or Claudia?

[ignorante]

Look here.  Beautiful 22 year old Luisa is interested in guys up to 55 years old.

http://www.colombiancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/739339

The exact same picture is on Latin America Cupid as a Claudia in Illinois, USA, also interested in guys up to 55 years old.

Hey, somebody take a chance on this one!     Uh, two . . . 

[Bob_S]

Hey, somebody take a chance on this one!     Uh, two . . . 

Twins?   

[Gato4Astrid]

For security reasons, some girls do not show their real names on Dating sites!   Gato4Astrid isn't even my real name!

[Shadow_mas]

For security reasons, some girls do not show their real names on Dating sites!   Gato4Astrid isn't even my real name!

And this is not my real picture... while we are confessing. 

[utopiacowboy]

Look here.  Beautiful 22 year old Luisa is interested in guys up to 55 years old.

http://www.colombiancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/739339

The exact same picture is on Latin America Cupid as a Claudia in Illinois, USA, also interested in guys up to 55 years old.

Hey, somebody take a chance on this one!     Uh, two . . . 

The girl's gotta make a living. If she can find gringo cows to milk, why not?

[z_k_g]

The girl's gotta make a living. If she can find gringo cows to milk, why not?

I love fresh milk!  Giving it....hehe

Zulu

[Kiltboy1]

100% Colombiana Prepago

[Dave H]

In Colombia or Illinois...She looks like the Colombiana named Claudia who lived next door to me in Miami!

Dave

[mudd]

actually, pretty typical for Colombian cupid and Latin cupid, their are lot s of " professional "   girls on there working guys who don't know any better.

sad but true, i know a girl, friend of mine from Medellin, well, sort of friend, lets just say i know her. she tells me that she wants to find a serious boyfriend. really cute girl, could pass for gringa, tall, big chest, cute face etc. she meets a gringo in all places," parque lleras"  they date about 3 months, guy gets what he wants and leaves. now she is hurt and sad and little pissed .  so she tells me she wants to go to USA, doesn't want to be in Colombia anymore, asks me about visas, tell her only visa she can get is fiancee visa and she will have to find a foreign novio or husband. she tells me" i wont do it, only if i am in love". well 5 months go by, then she asks me if i know any guys who would do the fiancee visa for her and how much it would cost. what???     

OK, so now i know she is not serious and just looking to get to USA by any means,  so i play along, say i know a few guys who might do it, but will charge $ 10,000 plus sex.  so i wait for her answer, she thinks about it for a week, and then says "OK, ill do it, who is the guy?", i will have to work off the $ 10,000 when i get in USA"
wowwwwwww and a week later, while surfing on Colombian cupid, there she is,her photos and profile, looking for some guy who she can use. probably figured was cheaper and easier to scam some guy on cupid.

[fathertime]

actually, pretty typical for Colombian cupid and Latin cupid, their are lot s of " professional "   girls on there working guys who don't know any better.

sad but true, i know a girl, friend of mine from Medellin, well, sort of friend, lets just say i know her. she tells me that she wants to find a serious boyfriend. really cute girl, could pass for gringa, tall, big chest, cute face etc. she meets a gringo in all places," parque lleras"  they date about 3 months, guy gets what he wants and leaves. now she is hurt and sad and little pissed .  so she tells me she wants to go to USA, doesn't want to be in Colombia anymore, asks me about visas, tell her only visa she can get is fiancee visa and she will have to find a foreign novio or husband. she tells me" i wont do it, only if i am in love". well 5 months go by, then she asks me if i know any guys who would do the fiancee visa for her and how much it would cost. what???     

OK, so now i know she is not serious and just looking to get to USA by any means,  so i play along, say i know a few guys who might do it, but will charge $ 10,000 plus sex.  so i wait for her answer, she thinks about it for a week, and then says "OK, ill do it, who is the guy?", i will have to work off the $ 10,000 when i get in USA"
wowwwwwww and a week later, while surfing on Colombian cupid, there she is,her photos and profile, looking for some guy who she can use. probably figured was cheaper and easier to scam some guy on cupid.

Wow muddpie that is really sucko.  I suppose the gal could find genuine love, but it more likely that she will knowingly screw some green gringo over.  If she is as attractive as you hint, she will have plenty of suitors, and she will have opportunities to hone her strategy because he she fails with the first few she will get more attuned to what she needs to do, to lasso the next one.  I’d sure hate to be the sucker that ‘lands’ her. 

Fathertime!

[z_k_g]

Wow muddpie that is really sucko.  I suppose the gal could find genuine love, but it more likely that she will knowingly screw some green gringo over.  If she is as attractive as you hint, she will have plenty of suitors, and she will have opportunities to hone her strategy because he she fails with the first few she will get more attuned to what she needs to do, to lasso the next one.  I’d sure hate to be the sucker that ‘lands’ her. 

Fathertime!

FT, I've encountered women like this in Asia.  And, likewise, men that have spent some quality time dealing with numerous women, have honed their skills to spot these type of women.

The only suckers are men who are looking for a "quick" hookup wife at the lowest price.  This guy, with little or no experience with the "game" will be the one who learns the expensive lesson from this scammer.

Never rush these type of relationships and these women will get weeded out eventually with the right strategy and patience.

Stupidity is deadly to your health and very expensive to your wallet.

Zulu

[utopiacowboy]

I always admire the entrepreneurial spirit of the paisas. I know several Colombianas in the US who got here that way. One just got her citizenship. Fraud all the way, baby!

[fathertime]

FT, I've encountered women like this in Asia.  And, likewise, men that have spent some quality time dealing with numerous women, have honed their skills to spot these type of women.

The only suckers are men who are looking for a "quick" hookup wife at the lowest price.  This guy, with little or no experience with the "game" will be the one who learns the expensive lesson from this scammer.

Never rush these type of relationships and these women will get weeded out eventually with the right strategy and patience.

Stupidity is deadly to your health and very expensive to your wallet.

Zulu

In southern ca, there are sharks, jellyfish, and sting rays in the ocean but I still ride the waves amongst them.   Survey the scene on the beach and then get in the water and take your chances!  Be observant, somewhat guarded, and smart, and most of the time you can spot a problem. 

If we were to create a time vs risk graph, for me, at some point pretty early on the extra time spent is not worth the smaller assurances of less risk.  Each traveler must assess their own tolerance in that regard. 

I respect your choice to really take your time and think it is usually good to advise others to do the same.  In my opinion for some and in certain circumstances the wait is just not worth it.

Fathertime!

[z_k_g]

FT,

In some endeavors in life you gotta just make it happen, you wait around and the opportunity passes you by, and you lose!

In my experience as an entrepreneur, if I had waited a mere hours, I would have lost big time!

Picking a wife is not one of those endeavors.

Zulu

[Dave H]

There is always someone willing to play the knight in shinning armor...or is it "amor"? I damn near had to knock out and tie down my best friend (Venezuelan) when he planned to run off to New York and marry the woman who truly loved him! She was a beautiful Colombiana who had overstayed her tourist visa and was working as a stripper. Somehow she was discovered (in Miami? Probably turned in by a jealous coworker) and took off to NY when she was about to be deported. He told me since she loved him so much anyway...they might just as well move their wedding plans sooner. Besides if he didn't marry her within a few days, she had other guys who were willing to marry her (just to help her situation)...Quote "She doesn't love any of them! Only me!"  

[ignorante]

a week later, while surfing on Colombian cupid, there she is,her photos and profile, looking for some guy who she can use. probably figured was cheaper and easier to scam some guy on cupid.

Wow, Mudd, no fair to post that without a link!  No fair at all!  

[mudd]

ahhh  was a few months ago, i am sure by now, she has a few green gringos lined up, actually, i saw her in parque lleras with a gringo on my last trip last month, walking around. didnt say hi to her, but just saw her walking around with a gringo in tow. ill see if i can find her profile again.

[CROW]

actually, pretty typical for Colombian cupid and Latin cupid, their are lot s of " professional "   girls on there working guys who don't know any better.

sad but true, i know a girl, friend of mine from Medellin, well, sort of friend, lets just say i know her. she tells me that she wants to find a serious boyfriend. really cute girl, could pass for gringa, tall, big chest, cute face etc. she meets a gringo in all places," parque lleras"  they date about 3 months, guy gets what he wants and leaves. now she is hurt and sad and little pissed .  so she tells me she wants to go to USA, doesn't want to be in Colombia anymore, asks me about visas, tell her only visa she can get is fiancee visa and she will have to find a foreign novio or husband. she tells me" i wont do it, only if i am in love". well 5 months go by, then she asks me if i know any guys who would do the fiancee visa for her and how much it would cost. what???     

OK, so now i know she is not serious and just looking to get to USA by any means,  so i play along, say i know a few guys who might do it, but will charge $ 10,000 plus sex.  so i wait for her answer, she thinks about it for a week, and then says "OK, ill do it, who is the guy?", i will have to work off the $ 10,000 when i get in USA"
wowwwwwww and a week later, while surfing on Colombian cupid, there she is,her photos and profile, looking for some guy who she can use. probably figured was cheaper and easier to scam some guy on cupid.

I have to say...you guys looking for wives bring most of these problems on yourselves....the last thing you should be doing is talking about money, visas or marriage with colombianas you don;t know very well. And probably the worst place to find a good wife is in a marriage agency.

If you can't get laid in Colombia without paying for it or bringing up marriage....you should probably resolve yourself to living a life of celibacy in the US or at the very least stop complaining about how bad foreign women can be. jajaja!!!

[robert angel]

The above described scenario plays itself out countless times all over the world, with women wanting entry into the USA  any which way they can get it. A lot of guys get used and burned badly in the process and a lot of guys do girls wrong, lead them on and dump them, leaving the girls really pissed and they 'act out' and a lot of times, their friends follow suit.

It's like did the chicken come first or the egg? There's the players and the played and they're of both sexes and in all countries.

The only way you 'possibly' avoid this--or better to say 'lessen your chances' of getting burned, is not to rush right in and not to be blinded to the point of making rash, stupid decisions because you're focused on how hot looking, how sizzling the sex is and how sweet she is to you--for now anyway....

Said it before and I'll say it again, coming to the USA changes every person who comes here and with foreign women who come here and 'lose their way'--they tended to have a few bad characteristics that became much, much worse after a year or two here and got even worse from there.

Chances are, the guy either was so stupidly smitten with lust and the 'love bug'  to notice or maybe even noticed a bit and didn't weigh the possible consequences down the line.

Never think "Oh--that does bother me a bit, and I don't like her friends, but once I get her back to the states, she'll be fine"--WRONG'


I am not saying "Wait for the PERFECT one"--hell, nobody is perfect. If my wife was 15 years older--that'd make her more perfect and for YEARS before I married her, I struggled with our age gap, but we talked and worked out that issue with each other (I think) and our families many times, over a long period and long engagement and I didn't see any other 'red flags'.

Who knows--that situation may come back to bite me, yet. I was married once before (for 14 years) to a foreigner, went through a very painful, expensive divorce--the worst was that two kids were involved, but it left me cynical and thinking "Never assume anything is FOREVER"

People can and do change--they can grow apart, or closer to each other, change their priorites and life goals, money issues can raise havoc, etc.--and in the USA--those are all perfectly acceptable reasons for a divorce--unlike in most foreign countries...

Time, time, time  is the only insurance and is still no guarantee!

You can judge (hate that word, but it fits) someone by how their family is and a poor woman's family can easily have more morals and 'true' class than a rich woman's.

If you pay attention and take the time, you can learn a lot by getting an idea of how loose and dishonest, bad mannerd, etc that the friends the woman socializes with are.

I am basically wasting my words here, because probably more than 95% of the guys here are just going to act like a bird dog and when a hottie comes along who seems to treat him oh so good, he'll rush in and figure it'll save him several expensive trips back to her home country by starting on the paperwork pronto.  

Most of the time, he won't even think he's moving too fast until it's too late--he'll go with his 'gut instinct'--which is also driven by his libido a lot of the time.  The reality is that acting like that may end up costing a lot more--both monetarily and emotionally...

[whitey]

I am basically wasting my words here, because probably more than 95% of the guys here are just going to act like a bird dog and when a hottie comes along who seems to treat him oh so good, he'll rush in and figure it'll save him several expensive trips back to her home country by starting on the paperwork pronto.  

Most of the time, he won't even think he's moving too fast until it's too late--he'll go with his 'gut instinct'--which is also driven by his libido a lot of the time.  The reality is that acting like that may end up costing a lot more--both monetarily and emotionally...

Sage advice, Robert. 

What a shame you're from the Asian board ... we'll have to completely ignore this ... 

[mudd]

I am basically wasting my words here, because probably more than 95% of the guys here are just going to act like a bird dog and when a hottie comes along who seems to treat him oh so good, he'll rush in and figure it'll save him several expensive trips back to her home country by starting on the paperwork pronto. 

Most of the time, he won't even think he's moving too fast until it's too late--he'll go with his 'gut instinct'--which is also driven by his libido a lot of the time.  The reality is that acting like that may end up costing a lot more--both monetarily and emotionally...

very true, most guys that i have seen go through agencies are just like this, in one big hurry to get laid and bring back some younger girl who shows them any sort of affection, while ignoring the  red flags.

[z_k_g]

If you are rushing into a relationship with a foreign bride, you don't need P-L!

Zulu

[robert angel]

Zulu,

A bet a lot of guys, including some who post, but especially the lurkers, just come here for giggles, train wreck stories, and basically are wishful thinkers or voyeurs on the periphery of 'relationship land'...

[fathertime]

If you are rushing into a relationship with a foreign bride, you don't need P-L!

Zulu

I don't see why people moving quickly wouldn't need this website as much as those that want to take their time.   There are people from both groups and either group can benefit from what is said here.

Fathertime!

[z_k_g]

I don't see why people moving quickly wouldn't need this website as much as those that want to take their time.   There are people from both groups and either group can benefit from what is said here.

Fathertime!

If you just need visa, immigration info, green card, etc. you can get that anywhere.

This site offers a great free assistance to expedite and save bucks, but most other avenues can do the same thing!  Hundreds of websites do this and do as good as or better job than P-L (Some for cost however)

The value of the P-L forum is in the peer review of the relationships- choices, mistakes, red flags, train wrecks, and how to not make mistakes in your choice of a future bride.  This is what makes P-L a jewel-  The archives and the real time advice of the member posters.

If you are in a hurry, whats the use of P-L?

Do your quickie- Pick your babe, go to a spousal visa website, check on your budgets, plane tickets, etc, get married, get her finalized and live unhappily ever after   (joke)

I don't see the need of spending weeks posting and getting guys opinions if you are looking for the quickie, seems like a waste of time if you are in a hurry.

If i was in a hurry, spending precious time on P-L posting, reading Robert long ass replies (love ya Angel) wouldn't make a bit of sense.  I wouldn't do it, period.

That's my point.

Zulu