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« on: August 22, 2010, 04:05:44 PM »
For the record, latin-wife.net (domain owned by garry gailie of Sarasota Florida) stole the copy of our home page latin-wife.com for their home page.

They state on their About Us page http://www.latin-wife.net/about/

“Our agency has been introducing Latin women to American men for over 20 years!”

Yet their domain is less than one year old and no women are profiled.
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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 05:35:00 PM »
For the record, latin-wife.net (domain owned by garry gailie of Sarasota Florida) stole the copy of our home page latin-wife.com for their home page.

They state on their About Us page http://www.latin-wife.net/about/

“Our agency has been introducing Latin women to American men for over 20 years!”

Yet their domain is less than one year old and no women are profiled.


Can you file complaint against this person as a copyright thief?  Good luck to it!  By the way, I do not like his website - very unprofessional and custom made!  CHEAP!!


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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 06:11:25 PM »
Looks like they´re just starting out. Lets hope they make a go of it. The agency business could sure use some new blood. As to copying/not copying who cares? The agency business has always been cut throat. Just the nature of the beast. If I had any complaints I´d just call them at 941-922-8385.
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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 06:23:20 PM »
No, Jamie's got a legitimate point, they can't (or at least shouldn't) lift his stuff word for word, which it certainly looks like they've done.

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 07:05:20 PM »
JimD

If copyrights are worldwide legal, then they could sell replica Lacoste/Ralph Lauren polo shirts or Louis Vuitton handbags!

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 09:37:49 PM »
Looks like they´re just starting out. Lets hope they make a go of it. The agency business could sure use some new blood. As to copying/not copying who cares? The agency business has always been cut throat. Just the nature of the beast. If I had any complaints I´d just call them at 941-922-8385.

>>As to copying/not copying who cares?<<

Only ANYONE who has made an investment of time, energy, braintrust, and $$ into bringing a product/service to the market.

Intellectual property protection (copyright is one form) is an extremely important fundamental to a sound capitalist economy - and anyone who lacks the capacity to carve out their own offering (resorting to plagiarizing other's) does not deserve to survive and should, IMNSHO, be avoided at all costs. They are scum.

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 11:00:28 PM »
Looks like they´re just starting out. Lets hope they make a go of it. The agency business could sure use some new blood. As to copying/not copying who cares? The agency business has always been cut throat. Just the nature of the beast. If I had any complaints I´d just call them at 941-922-8385.

Huh? Are you freaking crazy?

Of course you don't care because it isn't YOUR intellectual property that they stole.

Let's hope the stupid commie thieves get flushed down the toilet like any other stinking turd...

Good riddance!

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 11:11:33 PM »



   Definitely not cool.Anyone that would rip-off another site will probably rip-off their clients as well.They are probably in it to make a quick dishonest buck and then disappear.I would definitely avoid these folks.


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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 12:21:52 AM »
1. The site is clearly not finished.  And from what I see, it is far from being professionally made.
2. They used the Latin-Wife domain name clearly in order to try to get some of the potential clients searching for the real Latin-Wife.  I guess Jamie will be buying rights to domains Latin-Wife.org and Latin-Wife.biz :)
3. I would not get overly emotional about the text.  I doubt many people read it.  Most probably go straight to the photos of the girls.  The main purpose of the text is to let search engines find the site and link to it.  And to do that it definitely does not need to be a copy of another one.  So, this just illustrates that whoever is trying to set this up may not pose a real threat to Latin-Wife.  They are clueless.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 12:29:23 AM by Traveler »

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 03:33:48 AM »


   Definitely not cool.Anyone that would rip-off another site will probably rip-off their clients as well.They are probably in it to make a quick dishonest buck and then disappear.I would definitely avoid these folks.


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ALREADY rip-off their clients by stating:  "“Our agency has been introducing Latin women to American men for over 20 years!”

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 03:48:54 AM »
Jamie

Who designed your website?  Can you ask your website designer to re-design your website so that they cannot "copy and paste" anything from your website - text or photos - anything?   

Your website is fine, professional looking, but you do not need to re-design the layout, colours ...... just for text and photos so that they cannot copy and paste. 


I COPIED AND PASTED BELOW (from your website)

Meet Latin WomenEngage The Exotic - Latin Women of Colombia. International Introductions is your opportunity to meet and marry Colombian women significantly younger and more beautiful than what is locally available. With just a dash of American determination you too will discover that an exotic, young, attentive, Latin bride is attainable. International Introductions is your pathway to that exotic engagement. Embrace this opportunity and let us show you the pleasures, passions and devotion of beautiful Latin women from South America.




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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 08:07:08 AM »
There really isn't a way to make a website un-copyable. Well I take that back - you can make it un copy-able but you also become invisible to the search engines. Copying is self destructive as well. Search engine bots check for duplicate copy and penalize your sites rating if it has the same text as another site with an earlier date stamp. Be secure in the fact that they'll be relegated to the waaaay bake pages when someone does a search. It's a recipe for disaster. What good is a website if you are on page 200 when someone searches the main search term, and no one can find it.

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 08:50:04 AM »
I painted that  ;D .......  Do you want to buy it?   ;D


When I was in Colombia a year ago, a man painted very good copy of Mona Lisa and sell it in the flea market! 
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 08:51:47 AM by Gato4Astrid »

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 09:36:44 AM »
It can be damn near impossible to stop everyone from stealing your content, but if you are on your game nobody should have your domain. I can't blame them for buying latin wife dot net. It should not have been available to begin with.
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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2010, 09:50:42 AM »
It can be damn near impossible to stop everyone from stealing your content, but if you are on your game nobody should have your domain. I can't blame them for buying latin wife dot net. It should not have been available to begin with.

Well, if Jamie is interested in pursuing them legally for scavenging business by registering that domain, he has a basis and can almost certainly succeed in the courts.

Note that I am not a lawyer, but have personally witnessed a similar claim successfully filed/concluded in court without much difficulty, in fact.

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2010, 01:53:48 PM »
Well, if Jamie is interested in pursuing them legally for scavenging business by registering that domain, he has a basis and can almost certainly succeed in the courts.


To avoid the potential to have your business harmed online it is vital to purchase the .net, .biz, etc. Seriously, what is to stop me for purchasing latin-wife.org and write about how spending thousands of $$ on agencies is a rip off and the ills of having a divorced/single guy running an agency. If anybody learns anything from this it is to buy up all those domains.

If the material was copied on to latinwifedatingonline.com or something like that it doesn't pose the same threat.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2010, 02:04:29 PM »


If the material was copied on to latinwifedatingonline.com or something like that it doesn't pose the same threat.

It does.  It isn't only about domain names - it is about stealing slogans, texts!

One of the reasons why I do not sell my horse racing tips online at the moment.  I have worked very hard all the years, by studying, making statistics and so on.  I wouldn't be very happy if someone else making money by selling my tips to other people!

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM »
U can have the lawyer send the site a nasty letter. How is it ranking seo wise? Not really a blip on the radar till the seo gets them in the top page count on google. Talk to a lawyer sooner then later

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2010, 02:15:04 PM »
To avoid the potential to have your business harmed online it is vital to purchase the .net, .biz, etc. Seriously, what is to stop me for purchasing latin-wife.org and write about how spending thousands of $$ on agencies is a rip off and the ills of having a divorced/single guy running an agency. If anybody learns anything from this it is to buy up all those domains.

If the material was copied on to latinwifedatingonline.com or something like that it doesn't pose the same threat.

Predatory business practices - in which someone scavenges the goodwill and reputation and hard work of someone else - is always fair game in court.

Try it yourself - if available try to register coca-cola.org and set it up to sell generic cola from Costco. I guarantee you will receive a letter (or Court order) from an attorney faster than you could drop your first shipment.

No, I think you will find that simply trying to circumvent hard work by registering an account with a .net or .org or any of the other domain extensions now available, is a sure-fired way to end up in litigation.

But then again - I am not an attorney and you should NOT rely on my comments as legal advice [standard disclaimer].

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2010, 02:25:40 PM »
Predatory business practices - in which someone scavenges the goodwill and reputation and hard work of someone else - is always fair game in court.


I know, which is why I used my example. Lots of websites out there not selling anything set up by ex employees and upset customers of a business giving their reviews and advice. Which explains this... coca-cola.org is not available... wonder who owns it...

WHOIS information for coca-cola.org :

[Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
[whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in
determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry
registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry
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Domain ID:D1505609-LROR
Domain Name:COCA-COLA.ORG
Created On:29-Jun-1998 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:24-Jun-2010 04:07:34 UTC
Expiration Date:28-Jun-2012 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:CSC Corporate Domains, Inc. (R24-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:57084114bde88526
Registrant Name:Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization:The Coca-Cola Company
Registrant Street1:One Coca-Cola Plaza
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Atlanta
Registrant State/Province:GA
Registrant Postal Code:30313
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone: +1.4046768774  +1.4046768774
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.4045988774
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:domainadmin@na.ko.com
Admin ID:57084114bde88526
Admin Name:Domain Administrator
Admin Organization:The Coca-Cola Company
Admin Street1:One Coca-Cola Plaza
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Atlanta
Admin State/Province:GA
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Admin Country:US
Admin Phone: +1.4046768774  +1.4046768774
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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2010, 03:00:28 PM »
I know, which is why I used my example. Lots of websites out there not selling anything set up by ex employees and upset customers of a business giving their reviews and advice. Which explains this... coca-cola.org is not available... wonder who owns it...

WHOIS information for coca-cola.org :

[Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
[whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in
determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry
registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry
for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its
accuracy.  This service is intended only for query-based access.  You agree
that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no
circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise
support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than
the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume,
automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of
Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably
necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations.  All
rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any
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Domain ID:D1505609-LROR
Domain Name:COCA-COLA.ORG
Created On:29-Jun-1998 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:24-Jun-2010 04:07:34 UTC
Expiration Date:28-Jun-2012 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:CSC Corporate Domains, Inc. (R24-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:57084114bde88526
Registrant Name:Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization:The Coca-Cola Company
Registrant Street1:One Coca-Cola Plaza
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Atlanta
Registrant State/Province:GA
Registrant Postal Code:30313
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone: +1.4046768774  +1.4046768774
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.4045988774
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:domainadmin@na.ko.com
Admin ID:57084114bde88526
Admin Name:Domain Administrator
Admin Organization:The Coca-Cola Company
Admin Street1:One Coca-Cola Plaza
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Atlanta
Admin State/Province:GA
Admin Postal Code:30313
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone: +1.4046768774  +1.4046768774
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.4045988774
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:domainadmin@na.ko.com
Tech ID:93610014be16e741
Tech Name:Technical Administrator
Tech Organization:The Coca-Cola Company
Tech Street1:One Coca-Cola Plaza
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Atlanta
Tech State/Province:GA
Tech Postal Code:30313
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone: +1.4046768774  +1.4046768774
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.4045988774
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:domaintech@na.ko.com
Name Server:NS3.KO.COM
Name Server:NS4.KO.COM



It should not be a surprise that Coca-Cola owns that domain extension - as they probably own many others. For them it is simply that to purchase the domain is less expensive than to litigate if/when someone registers a nearby domain as a predatory business practice. Surely you do not believe they would FAIL to litigate if you chose to register, for example, coca-cola.xxx when that becomes available?!?

My point is that a predatory business practice of scavenging the hard work and goodwill of another's website is a scurrilous act - and one that, I believe, is actionable in Court. And that it is actionable is irrespective of whether someone elected to protect nearby domain extensions or not.

Just my opinion, of course.

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Re: latin-wife.net Copyright Thieves
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2010, 03:09:20 PM »
It should not be a surprise that Coca-Cola owns that domain extension - as they probably own many others. For them it is simply that to purchase the domain is less expensive than to litigate if/when someone registers a nearby domain as a predatory business practice. Surely you do not believe they would FAIL to litigate if you chose to register, for example, coca-cola.xxx when that becomes available?!?


The main issue I see is the difference for people (customers, ex-employees) to vent (excerise their free speech) versus a predatory business practice. I agree with you in this case. My main points are first if you buy up the domains (which don't cost a lot) you don't have to worry about this stuff nearly as much. Plus it prevents someone from coming along and using the domain to excerise free speech. This would for example prevent Findalatina from posting her side of the story on Latin-wife.org.

What is to stop this guy from changing the content on his website from a business to a non-profit free speech site bashing Latin Wife? Then he creates a new website at www.colombianmarriageagencyonline.com and uses whois protect so you have no idea he's the owner?

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2010, 08:00:54 PM »
Wow b-c-2 that´s stunning. I like it!
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2010, 10:15:23 PM »
I'm going to have to agree with Dan on this one.  It is completely obvious this site is trying to use Jamie and his good reputation to trick somebody into paying the wrong guy. This site has far less then zero credibility, hopefully nobody gets caught up in the scam.  Just remember it is latin-wife.COM that is the legit site.     

Hopefully Jamie goes after them and gets control of that domain. 

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