Finding foreign women in the U.S.A.

[william3rd]

exactly what I am talking about- 


there was this organization a few years back called the Filipino Friendship club. The girls all claimed to be tourists- all here 4-5 years. THey are what you call illegal aliens. All working illegally and all looking for husbands. Just dying to clear their status.
There is a Chinese club still does the same thing.

[Dave H]

exactly what I am talking about- 


there was this organization a few years back called the Filipino Friendship club. The girls all claimed to be tourists- all here 4-5 years. THey are what you call illegal aliens. All working illegally and all looking for husbands. Just dying to clear their status.
There is a Chinese club still does the same thing.

I know a number of Latinas doing the same.

[robert angel]

I wasn't too happy with Match.com and although it's been many years since I did it and technology's changed, I hear it's still pretty much a drag. Like most sites, it seems promising at first, then they usually sort of increasingly disappoint.

I did E Harmony when it first came out and that took more work, but it produced some really amazing results, with women of surprisingly different nationalties and circumstances. Remember being matched up with some really hot looking hollywood movie producer worth mega millions who lived in CA, a really sweet looking  high level business executive in Indonesia, etc.

My profile seemed way different than theirs, but the company really screens people with a surprisingly in depth psychological profile. I think they mismatched by brain psychology profile or something

That said, I was expecting them to match me with some one very similar to Angie Dickinson's character in that avante garde art film "Big Bad Momma" but alas, it just wasn't meant to be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaLuskJD5ac

Now she's proof that you can be  'liberated woman' w/o being a feminazi!

[Bricks]

interesting post, I am just wondering, how willing would a man be to date a foreign woman that is in his country but plans to return to her country? for example if she is there to do a course or on vacation?

This of course would mean that while you get to meet in person and maybe even date a little, it would become a long distance relationship at some point, would you consider it? would the "average guy" (who is not seeking for love outside his country) take a lady like this seriously or would she get mostly players happy to see her go and forget about her?

Hello, interesting question. Caused me some entertaining mental gymnastics for a bit. If the attraction and chemistry was there he would of course be willing to date. Sadly, I think most men would be figuring that if things became serious enough they could convince her to stay in the US. I mean, Hey this is los Estados Unidos after all! We tend to have a big head about it. Much to our peril I am afraid.

As for the average guy, that point of view is harder to discern. I am pretty sure that the people that post on this site don't qualify as "average". I am even more sure that you are not concerned with the average man! However, I will say that she would have to be cautious about the possibility of getting played. The man might not even be doing this on purpose, if he was not being honest with himself about his ideas of moving to another country (secretly believing she would move here)  the result would be the same.

Lastly, long distance relationships never last. They either dissolve, or they get closer! Communication and having common interests and purposes and goals will be the deciding factors. I hope this helps. 
 

[Celtic_Jorge]

I guess this is a question mostly for William.

HYPOTHETICALLY:

Lets say that I meet a Chinese girl in D.C.  We fall in love.  She's here on a student visa.

We decide to get married after dating for a few months.  After we get married, could we apply for a spouse visa?  I mean, we didn't meet here just for the INTENT of getting her the visa.  We just happened to fall in love, and get married, and now we applied for it.  Would that be considered fraud?

[braziliangirl]

I guess this is a question mostly for William.

HYPOTHETICALLY:

Lets say that I meet a Chinese girl in D.C.  We fall in love.  She's here on a student visa.

We decide to get married after dating for a few months.  After we get married, could we apply for a spouse visa?  I mean, we didn't meet here just for the INTENT of getting her the visa.  We just happened to fall in love, and get married, and now we applied for it.  Would that be considered fraud?

I'll take advantage of CJ's post and ask...

HYPOTHETICALLY:

I take get a job in DC, they sponsor my work visa. After some months I meet Mr. Right. Would I even need to apply for a spouse visa?

Thanks

[Ray]

I guess this is a question mostly for William.

HYPOTHETICALLY:

Lets say that I meet a Chinese girl in D.C.  We fall in love.  She's here on a student visa.

We decide to get married after dating for a few months.  After we get married, could we apply for a spouse visa?  I mean, we didn't meet here just for the INTENT of getting her the visa.  We just happened to fall in love, and get married, and now we applied for it.  Would that be considered fraud?

There is nothing wrong with falling in love and marrying here while on a student visa, then applying for Adjustment of Status (AOS).

There is however an unwritten rule known as the “30-60-90 Day Rule”. If she applies for adjustment within 30 days after arriving, the marriage is presumed to be fraudulent and the AOS may be denied.

If the marriage occurred within 30-60 days after her arrival, there is a strong suspicion of fraud and they may take a much closer look at her case before approving her petition for AOS.

If she marries after being her for at least 60 days, she will probably be OK with the AOS petition if she has no of previous history of immigration fraud.

OK, now let’s hear from Sir William, the expert… 

 Ray

[z_k_g]

I'll take advantage of CJ's post and ask...

HYPOTHETICALLY:

I take get a job in DC, they sponsor my work visa. After some months I meet Mr. Right. Would I even need to apply for a spouse visa?

Thanks

I'd like to know the answer to this one!

My sweetie may qualify for a work visa in her field.  

If she gets a job here, we can marry, etc after 60 days of course!  She will still have to follow the exact same procedures as if she was living in PI.  But, she will be physically here in the states.

Also, from what I've gathered over my time on P-L, is that she should NEVER indicate she has any type of male friend, boyfriend or potential guy she is interested in because they will deny even her work visa for fear she will not return to the Philippines.

Any responses?

Zulu

[Ray]

HYPOTHETICALLY:

I take get a job in DC, they sponsor my work visa. After some months I meet Mr. Right. Would I even need to apply for a spouse visa?

No, if you married a USC after you had been here for a while on a valid visa, you could apply for AOS and likely be approved, without the need to return home and apply for a spouse visa.

Ray

[Ray]

I'd like to know the answer to this one!

My sweetie may qualify for a work visa in her field. 

If she gets a job here, we can marry, etc after 60 days of course!  She will still have to follow the exact same procedures as if she was living in PI.  But, she will be physically here in the states.

Also, from what I've gathered over my time on P-L, is that she should NEVER indicate she has any type of male friend, boyfriend or potential guy she is interested in because they will deny even her work visa for fear she will not return to the Philippines.

 

It seems that what you are suggesting is blatant visa fraud if your intention is to in any way attempt to use a work or other temporary visa to get around the normal immigration procedures.

1. If she lies on her visa application and at her visa interview, denying that she has a male friend in the USA, then she is committing perjury and if caught could be banned for life (or 10 years) from entering the US.

2. If she is here on a legitimate work visa and marries you while here, she can always return home and go through the regular spousal (K-3 or CR-1) visa process.

She should NEVER lie at her visa interview or on any official paperwork!!

Ray

[braziliangirl]

No, if you married a USC after you had been here for a while on a valid visa, you could apply for AOS and likely be approved, without the need to return home and apply for a spouse visa.

Ray

Thank you, Ray!

[z_k_g]

It seems that what you are suggesting is blatant visa fraud if your intention is to in any way attempt to use a work or other temporary visa to get around the normal immigration procedures.

1. If she lies on her visa application and at her visa interview, denying that she has a male friend in the USA, then she is committing perjury and if caught could be banned for life (or 10 years) from entering the US.

2. If she is here on a legitimate work visa and marries you while here, she can always return home and go through the regular spousal (K-3 or CR-1) visa process.

She should NEVER lie at her visa interview or on any official paperwork!!

Ray

She is graduating from university and will be seeking an internship in her field.  She has been looking at finding a job/internship at a company in the USA.

A typical internship is 1 to 2 years, so she will be in the states at least that long. 

Zulu

[Celtic_Jorge]

Well I'm talking to two Chinese women now. 

The Korean asked if I wore pants with too many pockets and I told her that I only wear pants with four pockets (two in the back, two in the front), or less.  Then she asked if I wore shirts with scantily clad women on them, and I told her no.  Then she she asked if I was a geek (as in smart but kind of goofy at times), and I confessed that I was.  And that was the end of that.  She doesn't really talk to me anymore.  Women sometimes..   

Anyway, the two Chinese girls sound nice.  Both of them have Bachelors degrees.  One is working on her masters.  One is from Hong Kong, and the other one was raised half in China, half in Indonesia, and is now living in the USA.  Anyway, I just hope I can keep them interested in me for 6 more weeks.  I am finishing up some credits here that I needed to get my license before I go back to my job in Arlington.  I promised them we could hang out and do something together when I get back.

Its getting to the point now where one seems to be hanging on more than the other.. Maybe she's a more well rounded person, or maybe just more patient, I don't know.  But at least I am meeting foreign-born Asian women.  It just takes a bit of patience and a bit of skill to find them on the domestic dating websites.   

[michaelb]

Should have told her you wear a kilt.

[Henry]

The Korean asked if I wore pants with too many pockets and I told her that I only wear pants with four pockets (two in the back, two in the front), or less.  Then she asked if I wore shirts with scantily clad women on them, and I told her no.  Then she she asked if I was a geek (as in smart but kind of goofy at times), and I confessed that I was.  And that was the end of that.  She doesn't really talk to me anymore.  Women sometimes..   

Up until I was 24, I was stuck in the USA with this insane dating game. Women would just use some arbitrary measuring stick to determine I was unworthy.

I happen to think that AWs look for reasons to reject men. It must be some kind of self defense mechanism. Also it allows the dysfunctional female mind to feel that she is better than somebody if she can attract and then reject multiple men. I dont think this is an entirely conscious decision making process. But it is F'd up.

Now when women use some arbitrary measuring stick to decide I dont measure up and reject me, I think to myself, "Thank God she did that now, cause just imagine the havoc she could have wrecked upon us [the two of me in my head, hehehe], if she had done it later on."

The flaky women are doing us a favor by flaking early. Much better than them doing it later on when contracts have been signed or children born, or before she breaks my heart.

IMHO, China, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia would be the only Asian countries on my list. Not to sound closed-minded. Just looking at varying degrees of Americanization and values.

[z_k_g]

Up until I was 24, I was stuck in the USA with this insane dating game. Women would just use some arbitrary measuring stick to determine I was unworthy.

I happen to think that AWs look for reasons to reject men. It must be some kind of self defense mechanism. Also it allows the dysfunctional female mind to feel that she is better than somebody if she can attract and then reject multiple men. I dont think this is an entirely conscious decision making process. But it is F'd up.

Now when women use some arbitrary measuring stick to decide I dont measure up and reject me, I think to myself, "Thank God she did that now, cause just imagine the havoc she could have wrecked upon us [the two of me in my head, hehehe], if she had done it later on."

The flaky women are doing us a favor by flaking early. Much better than them doing it later on when contracts have been signed or children born, or before she breaks my heart.

Same experience here!

I figure that its good that they have eliminated themselves.  They are pretty arrogant and consider themselves the prize.  There is NO mutual sharing in the exchange just an attitude of "what can you do for me?"  I won't play the game with them at all.  I'm not in that mode anymore to cower myself to get a date with an attractive AmW.  If a woman, any  woman, will not treat me as SHE wants to be treated, then I am not interested and walk away.  Its just that simple.

As I've gotten older and wiser, when I detect a flake I will ease out of the relationship quickly.  I typically will GIVE them a reason to dump me, makes for less mess because women love to do the dumping!  It doesn't bruise or injure my ego to get dumped, I know its a good thing!!

I just don't feel its possible to find a "quality" foreign woman living in the states, unless they haven't been here long!

Well Jorge seems to have found a formula for doing just that, so maybe we have hope! 

Waiting to see how it turns out!

Good Luck!

Zulu

[Henry]

That probably wouldnt be a relationship built on love or mutual values. Just one based on how cool you are. It sounded like Celtic_Jorge would have been just a fashion accessory. "How many pockets do you have on your pants?" Well that'd vary by the particular pair of pants. Is a pair with 10 pockets more cool than one with 4? What is the proper answer to this question???

I always wondered what would happen if on those online profiles, a man were to put he is 5'11.5'', just half an inch shy of that magical 6' they seem to require. Would the AWs say, "Well I can compromise. It is only half an inch, after all!"

Somehow I doubt it. They'd probably say, "That guy is a short loser. Certainly not good enough for the goddess diva that I am!"

[Jeff S]

I just don't feel its possible to find a "quality" foreign woman living in the states, unless they haven't been here long!

If the act of being here in the US is what's detrimental to the "quality" of a women, what's going to happen once they've moved here for a while? Planning on trading in on a new untainted model every couple of years?

A quality woman is a quality women no matter where she lives for however long, IMO.

[braziliangirl]

The Korean asked if I wore pants with too many pockets and I told her that I only wear pants with four pockets (two in the back, two in the front), or less.  Then she asked if I wore shirts with scantily clad women on them, and I told her no.  Then she she asked if I was a geek (as in smart but kind of goofy at times), and I confessed that I was.  And that was the end of that.  She doesn't really talk to me anymore.  Women sometimes..   

How old is she?

[Celtic_Jorge]

How old is she?

25.   

[braziliangirl]

25.   

14 mentally.

I was going to tell you to look for older women. But the right advice is to look for more mature ones. And I know this is hard to tell by internet profiles...

[z_k_g]

She was asking him how many pockets on his pants and about patterns on his shirts to see if he was a sex tourist!  They wear short cargo pants with many pockets and print shirts! :-)

Zulu

[Jeff S]

She was asking him how many pockets on his pants and about patterns on his shirts to see if he was a sex tourist!  They wear short cargo pants with many pockets and print shirts! :-)

Zulu

So is that the international uniform of the sex tourist? Do the promiscuous women recognize it and hang around? Maybe I need to get some clothes like that the next time I travel. Where do you buy that kind of stuff? 

Seriously, I have been in nice places in Latin America and Asia talking with well dressed beautiful women who speak fluent, unaccented English and suddenly "no hablo..." or "wakarimansen..." when approached by a slovenly, poorly dressed and groomed American man. My suggestion before you travel anywhere is to spend a few minutes on youtube and see what the locals are wearing, and dress a little bit nicer, not sloppier, if you want to be taken seriously. Showing up like you're going to a kegger after the swamp buggy races assures you you'll only attract the worst element.

[z_k_g]

So is that the international uniform of the sex tourist? Do the promiscuous women recognize it and hang around? Maybe I need to get some clothes like that the next time I travel. Where do you buy that kind of stuff? 

I thinks its like the unofficial uniform!  Oh yeah and flip flops!  :-)

Zulu

[Celtic_Jorge]

Funny thing is, I wasn't even dressed sloppily in my pictures.  I'm not overweight.  No offence to anyone who is.  In most of them, I wore a polo shirt and a pair of jeans.  I never wear shorts, or really t-shirts either.  In a couple photos I was in a Celtic top, but come on, I was in Celtic Park in the photos.

Seems to me that she was was just looking for reasons to reject me.

I was pretty much rejected by one of the Chinese girls today, who when I asked her if we could have lunch sometime, just said "I am really not sure.  I don't know.  We'll see."  Seems like a nice "no".