Paisa Women? Knowlegable Opinions Please

[JimD]

I will direct this to Mudd off the bat since you´ve run a successfull agency there but anyone else with experience please speak up. What do you think of paisa women? A huge amount has been posted about Cali chicas and costeñas, their good and bad points but except from that last good post by El Esceptico there doesn´t seem to be a lot of boots on the ground reports on paisas. Is there potencial with them for a gringo sincerely looking for marriage? What´s your take?

[Chris F]

UT who posts here has been married to a wonderful Paisa for years now. My close friend has also been married to a Paisa for two years.

What they both have in common is that they were not women they met in agencies.

[Gato4Astrid]

UT who posts here has been married to a wonderful Paisa for years now. My close friend has also been married to a Paisa for two years.

What they both have in common is that they were not women they met in agencies.

My girlfriend is also a Paisa.  I did not meet her in Agency.  I met her in ColombianCupid.  It was recommended by a good friend of her (another Paisa) who just got married to a gringo living in California.   My girlfriend did not believe in these sort of things, but her friend who had found her love through the site, had made her think twice!

[mudd]

Well, in general, Paisa’s   ( all girls from Antioquia state are called Pasias, not just Medellin) They are more goal oriented than girls from the coast or Cali, about equal to girls from Bogotá. They definitely care about clothes, cars, status, money, where they live, what they do….  Bla blab la.  A lot do not want to leave Medellin but will if they meet the right man. 

they have good qualities and bad qualities, good ones being, they want to get ahead, either in job, university, start their own business and make $$$. They care about their city, how is looks ect and family.

Bad qualities, a lot are gold diggers, will date guys for $$$ or see if they can get some presents from him.  Girls from Medellin also don’t have the best reputation in Colombia, i.e. “ prepagos”   ask girls from different cities, they will comment on the beauty of paisa’s, but will also say “ muchas perpagos en Medellin”
Had a friend who worked in a modeling agency in Medellin, she told me that 70% of the girls were prepagos or part time prepagos. Is it a good thing or bad, thing?, who knows.


out of all the cities and girls I have visited and know in Colombia, only girls from Medellin have hit me up for $$$


If you want to find a good girl in Medellin, its possible, but stay away from other gringos who live in Medellin or any that are well known in Medellin, because you will be “guilty by association.” Get out of Poblado and Parque  lleras area and go to other areas of the city, but not the dangerous barrios, be careful where you go. Was much easier to find a nice girl 4 or 5 years ago, now, its alot more difficult.

I know a lot of girls in Medellin, more than i can keep up with and since they know im a good guy, I don’t have a problem meeting girls, but even with that being said, sometimes I get grouped into the “ gringo looking for sex” category, just because I am a foreigner in Medellin.

Hope this helped.

[Gato4Astrid]

into the “ gringo looking for sex” category, just because I am a foreigner in Medellin.

I hate this quote.  Once I wrote an introduction letter to a girl from Cali via TheColombianSoulMates.  She wrote back immediately, telling me that she is not looking for a gringo who looks for sex only - she wrote it in Capital letter.  I don't remember writing an introduction letter, talking about sex, etc!


Any men who travelled to Colombia looking for sex, should be our enemy, because they have destroyed the reputation of both genuine women and the men who are seeking serious relationships in the future!

They are real losers! 

[utopiacowboy]

I think paisa women are the best in the world. Of course I am prejudiced after seven years of marriage to my special paisa.

[CROW]

I will direct this to Mudd off the bat since you´ve run a successfull agency there but anyone else with experience please speak up. What do you think of paisa women? A huge amount has been posted about Cali chicas and costeñas, their good and bad points but except from that last good post by El Esceptico there doesn´t seem to be a lot of boots on the ground reports on paisas. Is there potencial with them for a gringo sincerely looking for marriage? What´s your take?

In Cali it is possible to have  very enjoyable casual realtionships with women. If you try this with Paisas...well they are going to take you for a ride and at some point.....sooner rather than later they are doing to hit you up for something in a surprisingly direct way.

The only gringos that I know personally that have successfull relationships with paisas....live in Medellin and live with the woman.

[fathertime]

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Any men who travelled to Colombia looking for sex, should be our enemy, because they have destroyed the reputation of both genuine women and the men who are seeking serious relationships in the future!

They are real losers! 

  I’m not sure why you are so adamantly against men going to Colombia to find a woman or two to have sex with.  Most of the women are not so uptight about sex and I couldn't help but be an oversized walking hard-on during many of my trips to Colombia.   My feeling is during the dating process a man should be exploring as many women as he feels he needs to, in order to find the one that he wants to marry.  Based on my experience, what Colombian women dislike is when men pretend to be asexual or are not confident/competent enough to make some moves.  On my first trip I remember not making a move on a woman, I really wanted to, but did not realize or have the confidence to do so...I was a little angry with myself after that experience and did not leave many stones unturned after that. 

  One thing I have learned it is there are plenty of young Colombian women that don’t like all the banal falsities in western society.  Bottom line, go for what you want unabashedly, sometimes after sex with a woman a man will have second thoughts and not want to see her again…no problem with that.  The man moves on, yes the women may feel used, but that is just how the game is played.  There are certain aspects of the dating process that man has more control over, but there are other aspects that the woman is ‘the decider’. 

Fathertime!

[Gato4Astrid]

   
Fathertime!

I was talking about men travelling to Colombia  to meet women ONLY for sex.  If they want sex only, they could go to meet prepagos.  But to meet women from agencies

Do they how these women feel or what do they want from men?

[Calipro]

I will direct this to Mudd off the bat since you´ve run a successfull agency there but anyone else with experience please speak up. What do you think of paisa women? A huge amount has been posted about Cali chicas and costeñas, their good and bad points but except from that last good post by El Esceptico there doesn´t seem to be a lot of boots on the ground reports on paisas. Is there potencial with them for a gringo sincerely looking for marriage? What´s your take?

My take is...it is going to be harder just to meet good looking Paisas than it is to meet hot Calenas....And it is going to be even harder to find one that wants to marry a gringo and move away from Medellin.

But after you have found one that is madly in love with you and wants to get married... what is the difference were they are from? I don{t think just because Calenas are easier to meet and marry that they some how make better wives than a Paisa.

For me going to Colombia is about not having to compromise on what I want in a woman....if you really like the Paisa look and very practical personalities than I would put in the extra effort and go for one.

[JimD]

Calipro good tips. What´s your opinion of the chocoanas?

[Calipro]

Calipro good tips. What´s your opinion of the chocoanas?

A little too dark for my taste from what I have seen but I really haven{t gotten the chance to get to know one upfront and personal.

[AndyLee]

I've had the pleasure of dating women from Bogota, Barranquilla, Cartagena and Medellin and I have lived with one from Cartagena and another from Medellin. All of them have either been unemployed or underemployed and all have asked for money or things but in subtle, non-direct ways, probably no different than an Americanized woman would ask or hint. However, the Paisa was most direct, even demanding. That's only one example out of a gadzilllion beautiful women in Antioquia though, so my little independent survey doesn't count for a heck of a lot. When you add my experience to what others are saying the general consensus seems to be Paisas may be higher maintenance than others. The Bogotanas and Costenas in my estimation are just as pretty and seemingly more approachable and more receptive. I haven't been to Cali yet.

[Kiltboy1]

I have dated them all from everywhere in Colombia and the women from Medellin and Itague were by far the most direct about expecting money, gifts , ect. I however was just as direct that they should not let the door hit them in the behind on there way out. Too damn many beautiful women in LA to put up with a demanding woman expecting a Grngo Gravytrain handout. If colombian men want to lavish them with gifts, more power to them. Remember, you are in control, not them. the colombian man knows this and that is why they can do whatever they want and  move on the the next one if the current one is too pushy.

KB

[mudd]

yep, comparing girls from Medellin to other cities,ie Cali, Barranquilla, even Bogota, "demanding , independent, higher maintenance" do come to mind. i guess you could say, they are the  " Latina version  of a gringa. jajaj
but, that's  just my opinion

[AndyLee]

Recently I read the name Americanized, which describes a woman from any of the first world countries who is neurotic, demanding, spoiled, overly inflated opinion of self, expectations beyond reality, unwilling to look beyond superficial appearance and signs of wealth or not wealth. That pretty well sums up my feelings about 98% of the women in the US. Now, it becomes more clear to me that I can also use the term Americanized when speaking of typical Paisa.

[Dan Las Vegas]

I don't know where you are meeting these women, but I have never had a single paisa ask me for money directly or indirectly or hint for a gift. On the contrary, they have been incredibly warm and friendly and almost always on time.  But at the same time, I haven't dated anyone less than thirty four years old  in Medellin  nor have I used an agency there.

Just my humble opinion


Dan LV

[Jay jay]

i have no idea how to use this site, can anybody help me?

[utopiacowboy]

I don't know where you are meeting these women, but I have never had a single paisa ask me for money directly or indirectly or hint for a gift. On the contrary, they have been incredibly warm and friendly and almost always on time.  But at the same time, I haven't dated anyone less than thirty four years old  in Medellin  nor have I used an agency there.

Just my humble opinion


Dan LV

One of the typical paisa qualities is self-respect and no self-respecting paisa is going to be asking for money like a hooker. And no, they are NOT Americanized. In fact the typical paisa (which it looks like none of you save Dan have ever met) could not care less about all things American. To them Medellin and Old Antioquia is the center of the universe and everything else is periphery. Of course if you want to hang around Parque Lleras and think you're meeting "typical paisas" more power to you. OTOH, my wife who is a typical paisa  had only set foot in Mango's once in her life.

[whitey]

Of course if you want to hang around Parque Lleras and think you're meeting "typical paisas" more power to you.

Love it!  hahaha 

[NorthernLion]

Quote from: utopiacowboy on July 22, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
Of course if you want to hang around Parque Lleras and think you're meeting "typical paisas" more power to you.

Love it!  hahaha  

Okay, I have never been to Colombia let alone Medellin yet so I am merely asking for an explanation here. Are the people found in this "Parque Lleras" area of Medellin untypical of the rest of the city because they are richer and so have a snobby upperclass attitude?  
What makes the people of this one section of Medellin so different that seeing it one would not have a real flavour for the true city and personality of Medellin?  
I assume this is the tourist section but how much of a componet to the equation could that be?   For instance in Rio the area of copacabana is very tourist (and in consequence many to most of the women walking around it are prostitutes) but other than New York city I don't know of another city that has an area that is filled primarily with tourists.  I would not imagine that Medellin has much in the way of tourism compared to Rio or New York City so I am thinking it is something else forming the difference regarding this section of the city from the rest of Medellin and the Paisa area and I wanted to know what it is?
And is it somehow bad in consequence?  Is it so much more money in Parque Lleras than the rest of Colombia that people are fake and superficial or what?  Explain please