New to this, any advice welcomed

[Sungod7]

Hello Everyone

This is my first post and grand introduction. I have been lurking and browsing the forum for about a month. There is so much helpful information here for someone looking for love abroad and it has already been beneficial to me. I'll give a brief description of myself and my progress so far. I am in my late twenties with 2 young daughters from a previous relationship. I will complete my MBA over the summer and I have plans to be fairly successful. I'm in search of true love and I am very attracted to latinas and the culture and would like to make one my wife and mother of my future son. Hablo y entiendo castellano un poco, no muy bien. I am currently doing a Spanish program and I'm learning a little more everyday. Colombia and Peru were the countries of my focus as most agencies and chicas seeking international love are in these two countries. I have recently decided I am going with Peru because of several observations. Peru seems more cultured, structured, and safer than Colombia. Also there seems to be a lot more English speaking females in Peru compared to Colombia. I have been using latin america cupid for about a month and it seems like a quarter of the females I meet from Peru (especially Lima) speak English good to fluently and that's how we communicate majority of the time. I have yet to meet a female from Colombia that even knows novice English. I know the marketing slogan "Don't let a simple language barrier stop you from finding your soul mate" but communication is important. I have confidence in my Spanish learning ability and should be fully conversational soon but I notice better interaction with the English speaking chicas at this point in time. And also she could learn English later if they don't know it now but who knows. I'm also slightly more attracted to the Peruvian and mestizo look that is more prevalent there. My goal is to become very close with at least 3 chicas from the online dating sites and combine that with some introductions from an agency when I travel to Peru. I will focus on these selections for a possible engagement. I  have met quite a few interesting chicas already online. I already have 3 that I interact with a lot and all 3 are from Peru. Two of them know English very good and the third doesn't speak a word of it, but I almost like her the most. I chat with or email all three nightly and speak to one of them over the phone regular. I believe all 3 consider me their novio and claim they aren't interested in anyone else right now. I also try to meet new females online to add a possible fourth horsemen but most new acquaintances are filtered or eliminated rather quickly because of red flags, different goals, no chemistry, they go missing, etc. The fact that these 3 are still around after a month says a lot. I could almost see myself with any of the 3, all are beautiful, young, smart, and sweet. I plan to travel to Peru around September and meet the current roster from online dating and maybe use an agency as well. The grand question is how does my approach sound? Specifically regarding using the online sites in conjunction with a local agency, having about 3 or 4 close relationships with females before I go, my analysis of Peru an Colombia, the importance of her knowing English considering my espanol, and anything else. I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you

[mudd]

sounds like your doing everyhting correctly, having a few girls from internet sites is good, but dont just rely on them, use some agencies in peru when you get there and send them your info and profile before you leave. . its all about the numbers, the more you meet, the better your odds.

peru is definately not colombia, but thats a good thing also :-) girls were definately more serious in peru. some guys on here have married girls from peru, doing well.

[raycjs]

Sungod7

i agree with Mudd your are going about it the right way, i would also contact Raul at
www.matchingsys.com. it will cost you a few dollars for him to put a nice profile of you in his agency for all the women to see. You Will get a big responce and this way when you go there you can meet 6 to 12 women.

Good Luck to you on your journey

Ray

[bcc_1_2]

I might come off as a bit of a dick here.

So are you divorced (finalized?) or are you just seperated? You've got two girls already and a boy on the way still (future son)? You are still in school but know you will be successful... does that mean you don't have a good paying job yet?

Not trying to be a tool, but after reading your post I had serious questions about your current relationship status and your ability to make something like this work right now.

Before you travel down it would be best (well apporiate) to have all your loose ends tied up in the United States. First having your divorced finalized assuming you were married. Second not having just knocked up some AW and then traveling down to Peru or whatever assuming that is the case.

Just get yourself on stable ground with your children, relationship status, career, etc because this isn't a walk in the park nor is it cheap.

At the very least I'd say we need some clarification on things before everyone starts advising you on going to Peru. I'm not sure anyone should encourage a young married father.... with 2 kids and one on the way... who still happens to be a student... to travel down to Latin America and chica hunt.

[Bob_S]

I might come off as a bit of a dick here.
So are you divorced (finalized?) or are you just seperated? You've got two girls already and a boy on the way still (future son)? You are still in school but know you will be successful... does that mean you don't have a good paying job yet?

I'm not sure he's saying he has a son on the way.  From what he wrote,

I'm in search of true love and I am very attracted to latinas and the culture and would like to make one my wife and mother of my future son.

I think he means he plans to get her pregnant, and if the DNA gender test shows it's another girl, he'll force her to have an abortion again and again till she finally gets pregnant with a boy.  Because we all know, those good Catholic girls have no problem with abortion.  Right?   And his "previous relationship" may not have been a marriage.  It could have been just some idiot shack-up honey who stupidly let him impregnate her.

Oh, and Sungod, that you are attracted to Latinas and the culture does not necessarily mean you match it.  I love almonds, but they do a number on my gut.  Do you really match the culture?  You might want to plan a trip down there to experience it firsthand before you make any commitments.  I found many things about Russian culture attractive, but found out the hard way I don't really match it.  Read the travel stories by the guys who crashed and burned.  They learned the hard way they don't match Latin American culture.  It's a personal thing and you don't really know till you're in it up to your eyeballs.

[Sungod7]

Bcc, you were simply asking questions for better clarity, I am not sensitive, you're not a dick, at least not because of that post.
 
Anyway I was never married before, my previous kids were from a long term relationship. My kids are 3 and 7. I do not currently have one one the way, when I referred to a future son I was talking about any possible future kids I would have with my latina wife (preferably a son).

My relationship is completely over with my ex-girlfriend and has been for almost a year. I am currently employed and doing well, when I said successful I meant above and beyond, more than modest. I returned back to school part time after entering the workforce. I realize this endeavor is not going to cost peanuts and being financially prepared was part of the game plan.

When I travel there in September it will be a first visit of a few. Any visa process or marriage wouldn't be done until almost a year from now. I would like to know the potential bride for 6 months to a year before hand. This is the preliminary stage.  In the meantime my situation isn't quite as you envisioned but I am continually better preparing for this process. Thanks for the feedback.

[Sungod7]

Bob S, I must admit that your post gave me a good laugh.

Who mentioned anything about abortion? I take it that you're one of the wackos that bombs doctor offices in promotion of your ethical view of being pro-life like the terrorists with their views or whatever. Am I missing something? I was simply stating that after already having 2 girls I would like to have a boy but I would love either the same. Abortion and Catholics? This is where your head is at and your post tells much about you.

And yes retard, I was not married to the mother of my kids as this happens many times in today's society. Your statement of a idiot shack up honey has the relevance and presumption of me stating you're stupidity comes from your hillbilly parents who are also first cousins or siblings or whatever nasty incest configuration your small mind can conjure.

I have lived around and been exposed to latin culture in the states and abroad before. I'm not looking at latin culture through a crystal ball for the first time jumping up and down yelling ooh ahh I want that like an ape or a Bob S. I have considered this for a while and have knowledge of the fundamentals and atmosphere of my endeavor and the culture of it. And I am not running for election in Peru or Colombia so me matching the culture in the context that you described is inaccurate Bobby.

[Capstone]

Sungod7,

First off let me say Welcome to the board and good luck to you in your search!

I have considered this for a while and have knowledge of the fundamentals and atmosphere of my endeavor and the culture of it. And I am not running for election in Peru or Colombia so me matching the culture in the context that you described is inaccurate Bobby.

Bob's sarcastic sense of humor may not have gone over too well with you but his advice concerning making sure a culture is right for you before you dive in is very sound indeed. It is the same advice that I often times give to new posters as well. Making sure you fit into a particular culture, no matter what part world we may be talking about, is a very important component to a successful international/cross-cultural relationship. Once you marry into a particular culture you will be living it for the rest of your life so it is paramount that you choose one which really fits your lifestyle, interests, etc.

Anyway - Good Luck to you and I look forward to hearing about your upcoming search.

[Jeff S]

Hi sun and welcome. The party line around here is that there is no right or wrong way to do this - just a way that works well for you. You can plan everything according to whatever everyone else says and still fall on your face, so keep your options open and don't be afraid to change plans based on what you discover as you get deeper in. Nothing about this can be reduced to a formula.

Bob is right about one thing - thinking a culture is interesting and living with it day after day (and you will have to when you're married) are entirely different things, so some firsthand experience is always a good idea if you can, before committing to anything. I don't think Bob is an abortion clinic bomber, but will let him respond himself. Most of us here are pretty big personal responsibility guys, so you have to expect some disdain about having kids with out of wedlock, then moving on. On the plus side you do sound like you want to marry the mother of your future kids.

Anyway, we're glad you're here and hope you hang around and keep us posted on your search.

- Jeff

[bcc_1_2]

Sungod,

You might go back and review your megagraph above. It appears to be loaded with red flags in terms of you being ready or having any business going down to latin america to meet women.

Personally I'm not so much against having kids out of wedlock... in the sense that I'm not a fan of marriage in the religious sense... but on the issue of a civil ceremony (a trip to the courthouse) I'm in favor of that before you start shacking up and having kids. Religion and politics aside there ought to be a life long commitment before you go bring kids into this world.

But the vast majority of men on here have had failed marriages with AW so I really doubt anyone will be too critical. Based on that first post... I'd say you got off pretty light on the criticism.

[Pivery]

 Hi Sungod,

Welcome to the board. You sound like you have been doing your homework, and are ready to find that special someone. I understand that you have narrowed your
search to Peru and Colombia. Don't leave any of the other South American and even Central American countries out. There are many different types of women in
Latin America, and I am sure that you will find the type of woman that you seek. No one here can definitively tell you what to do. This has to be your journey and
you triumph or failure. There are some general landmines to steer clear of and going through the old posts and trip reports and asking questions from others here
will be of great value to you.

Good Luck!

Pivery 

[fathertime]

Hey sungod, Out of curiousity, where did you come up with that name and why?

Regarding your post. Keep learning as much spanish as you can, you appear to be squared away enough to give S. America a shot.  I'd recommend you have plenty of backup options in whichever city you choose to visit. Oftentimes that first woman you talk to over the computer doesn't work out for one reason or another.  Most guys like to play the field, especially after they see what is to be had.  After a trip or two and some oats sewn you might find yourself more ready to make a good choice.  Obviously the choice is yours. 
The type of woman you seek could be found in any of the countries you mentioned. As old four eyes Pivery said, just check out the reports and see what you can glean from them as it could help you a lot.
Fathertime!

[william3rd]

Bob S, I must admit that your post gave me a good laugh.

Who mentioned anything about abortion? I take it that you're one of the wackos that bombs doctor offices in promotion of your ethical view of being pro-life like the terrorists with their views or whatever. Am I missing something? I was simply stating that after already having 2 girls I would like to have a boy but I would love either the same. Abortion and Catholics? This is where your head is at and your post tells much about you.

And yes retard, I was not married to the mother of my kids as this happens many times in today's society. Your statement of a idiot shack up honey has the relevance and presumption of me stating you're stupidity comes from your hillbilly parents who are also first cousins or siblings or whatever nasty incest configuration your small mind can conjure.

I have lived around and been exposed to latin culture in the states and abroad before. I'm not looking at latin culture through a crystal ball for the first time jumping up and down yelling ooh ahh I want that like an ape or a Bob S. I have considered this for a while and have knowledge of the fundamentals and atmosphere of my endeavor and the culture of it. And I am not running for election in Peru or Colombia so me matching the culture in the context that you described is inaccurate Bobby.

3 posts and he runs his mouth, does the Sungodovabitch? Have a little respect for your elders, sonnygod and you will get better advice. Latin experience? Latin Hos or because you drank Cuervo now and then? I dont think you have thought through very much at all other than you want to bless a foreign girl with your get. . You are just shopping for another piece of chattel property. Gonna test drive all three or four before you honor the lucky lucky gir with on upgrade in species?You wanted feedback. Here is some feedback. You smell a little bit like an agency shill but I need to hear a little more of your posting before I can

You are too full of yourself, so full of it your eyes are probably brown.

[Sungod7]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I don't want to give the wrong first impression or come off like an a$$hole but when my first correspondence with someone is them accusing me of being a baby killer and calling the mother of my kids a stupid shack idiot, I may take offense. I am not familiar with any sarcastic humor of Bob or anybody else for that matter yet. I'm just saying, could I have gotten a hello before the insults.

And I realize guys that the latin culture has to be desired in order for me and it to co-exist. I assume I will gain much additional information about the culture as I get deeper into my trips abroad and with a potential partner but I have a very good understanding of the culture as it is now and I love it.

As far as having children out of wedlock, it and personal responsibility does not have to have a direct relationship. I have taken care of my responsibilities and will continue to do so. What is the difference between not marrying and divorcing 2 or 3 or 4 times, the differences are not in the latter's favor. I am very family oriented and divorce is something that I never plan to partake in. I do plan to make the next mother of my kids my lifetime partner.

And fathertime, just as the sun enables life on earth with it's solar energy and has the 9 planets orbiting around it's gravitational power, I am the center of and dominating force in my own personal universe, my circle of people, places, and things. People I encounter are like planets asteroids, comets, and meteors. My wife will be planet earth, the only planet in the solar system the sun enables life on. I can go on and on but that's another topic.

William, lol, I respect my elders, I am very humble coming into this and appreciate all constructive and informative feedback. However, Just because I am the rookie doesn't mean I'm going to forfeit to the veteran, just cause I'm perceived as David doesn't mean I'm not going to defend myself when attacked by Goliath, because that my friend would be suicide.

[Ray]

And fathertime, just as the sun enables life on earth with it's solar energy and has the 9 planets orbiting around it's gravitational power, I am the center of and dominating force in my own personal universe, my circle of people, places, and things. People I encounter are like planets asteroids, comets, and meteors. My wife will be planet earth, the only planet in the solar system the sun enables life on. I can go on and on but that's another topic.

Hi sungod,

If there are 9 planets, why sungod7?

And will your future wife have to refer to you as sungod, or just “god” for short?

Whether there are really 8 or 9 planets in our solar system, welcome aboard anyway.

Ray 

[william3rd]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I don't want to give the wrong first impression or come off like an a$$hole but when my first correspondence with someone is them accusing me of being a baby killer and calling the mother of my kids a stupid shack idiot, I may take offense. I am not familiar with any sarcastic humor of Bob or anybody else for that matter yet. I'm just saying, could I have gotten a hello before the insults.

William, lol, I respect my elders, I am very humble coming into this and appreciate all constructive and informative feedback. However, Just because I am the rookie doesn't mean I'm going to forfeit to the veteran, just cause I'm perceived as David doesn't mean I'm not going to defend myself when attacked by Goliath, because that my friend would be suicide.

That's OK- at least you are getting hellos AFTER the insults!!!!

Welcome aboard

[robert angel]

Yes Sun,

Welcome to the site. You've got to have a thick skin at times in here, but they're's give and take in here, sort of normal in real life, so I try not to get too upset. As is my awful habit, I'd write a lot longer, but I'm too busy trying to fit the C2 into the nifty radio I'm sending to Ray!

[Bob_S]

Bob S, I must admit that your post gave me a good laugh.

Then my job is a success.

Who mentioned anything about abortion? I take it that you're one of the wackos that bombs doctor offices in promotion of your ethical view of being pro-life like the terrorists with their views or whatever.

Some people here are very pro-life, but I'm more libertarian about it.  Do what you want as long as it doesn't cost me anything as a taxpayer.  Are any of your illegitimate offspring on welfare or food stamps?  If not, then THANK YOU.  Please keep it that way.

Am I missing something? I was simply stating that after already having 2 girls I would like to have a boy but I would love either the same. Abortion and Catholics? This is where your head is at and your post tells much about you.

You're talking about having a son, as though there is a choice ahead off time.  The only way to have a choice is by gender selection abortion, a common practice on the Asian continent.  But in Latin America?  Hard to imagine, but I guess if you search hard enough.

And yes retard, I was not married to the mother of my kids as this happens many times in today's society. Your statement of a idiot shack up honey has the relevance and presumption of me stating you're stupidity comes from your hillbilly parents who are also first cousins or siblings or whatever nasty incest configuration your small mind can conjure.

At least my cousin-lovin' hillbilly inbred progenitors were married.  You might want to try it sometime.     ("today's society", geez, what a cop out weenie excuse for not doing the right thing.)

[Bob_S]

But I wish you luck anyway.  At least you'll have fun.  And if you learn something along the way, even better.  You could do a lot worse to marry a nice Latina, then have another daughter that looks like her mom!