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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2009, 07:55:05 AM »
I think the numbers are a little misleading because of a few factors. one , because it is very difficult to get a divorce in Colombia and also expensive and Two, the last generation of Colombians are just not getting married.I am in the First Aid business and primary Industrial, so with a recession, less employees = less people to use the products. This principal applies to the Divorce rate as well I think.Less people getting married = less divorces.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2009, 09:23:02 PM »


  Precisely the point KB.Even if the statistic is true for an agency to use it is misleading.Many studies don't include countries where divorce is not permitted by law or is difficult to get for this reason.If Colombia does have a low divorce rate I don't think it is because marriage is held very sacred there.I was told several times to make sure the woman I became interested in wasn't legally married.It seems alot of couples may not get divorced legally but they live as though they are single.

    I wonder if any agencies tell their male clients that.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2009, 04:11:12 PM »
    Other sources say that Libya is .2 and Sri Lanka is even lower than that. Does your source say why Colombia's rate is that low?

    If you could introduce yourself in the intro section of the forum that would be nice.



I read the forum to get an idea of how the MOB "business" is working and saw that someone made reference to The Economist. I happened to have The Economist Pocket World in Figures lying on my desk so I checked if the statement was accurate.

No, they do not say why divorce rate are so low.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2009, 08:02:22 PM »
I read the forum to get an idea of how the MOB "business" is working and saw that someone made reference to The Economist. I happened to have The Economist Pocket World in Figures lying on my desk so I checked if the statement was accurate.

No, they do not say why divorce rate are so low.


   Thanks for the input but most newbies who want to participate usually introduce themselves first. It just seems odd that you decided to jump right in the middle of a thread without telling us anything about yourself.Just seems odd.

   I think we have moved beyond whether Colombia does have the lowest divorce rate in the world or not as to why,if true, it would be.(Just to bring you and others up to speed).

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2009, 07:10:17 AM »
   Thanks for the input but most newbies who want to participate usually introduce themselves first. It just seems odd that you decided to jump right in the middle of a thread without telling us anything about yourself.Just seems odd.

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What seems odd is your attempts to control how a newbie posts.  It is not odd that somebody chooses to jump into the middle of a thread to make a first post.  The man has made a contribution, there is no need to pressure him to 'introduce' himself.  His fact contridicts your earlier statements either way.

KB,  Your point may well be true and who knows how accurately they record things in Colombia.  BTW KB, I've never heard anyone call it  the 'first aid' business!  Can you direct me to your companies website or catalog? It is possible I may need something in the future, I used to have to purchase large orders, although not so much anymore.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2009, 11:32:50 AM »


  I don't have a magazine subscription but I have made several trips to Colombia in the past few years.I have to say that it is crap for an agency to use this in it's advertising because it is misleading.There are many couples in Colombia that are legally married but do not live that way.


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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2009, 11:46:21 AM »
What seems odd is your attempts to control how a newbie posts.  It is not odd that somebody chooses to jump into the middle of a thread to make a first post.  The man has made a contribution, there is no need to pressure him to 'introduce' himself.  His fact contridicts your earlier statements.


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So you believe this "fact"?Then tell us why you think Colombia supposedly has the lowest divorce rate in the world.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2009, 12:44:16 PM »


It just seems odd that you decided to jump right in the middle of a thread without telling us anything about yourself.Just seems odd.


Really?

I have been a member of PL for over 10 years now and it doesn't seem "odd" to me...


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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2009, 02:39:45 PM »
Really?

I have been a member of PL for over 10 years now and it doesn't seem "odd" to me...


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   I have to disagree with you on that one Ray.

   I believe that divorce is pretty slim in the Philippines as well.Why do you think that is? and where does the Philippines fall on this list of the magazine?Perhaps ms can tell us.

  ms, where does the Philippines fall on your list?


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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2009, 02:57:38 PM »
   I have to disagree with you on that one Ray.

   I believe that divorce is pretty slim in the Philippines as well.Why do you think that is? and where does the Philippines fall on this list of the magazine?Perhaps ms can tell us.

  ms, where does the Philippines fall on your list?


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You're out of step again.  I think it is safe to say what Ray is referring to is your insistance that it is 'odd' for someone to make a first post somewhere in the middle of the thread without introducing themselves first.   I don't find that 'odd' but did  find it odd that you would try to exercise some control over how and where another man posts.


We are all adults and if an agency chooses to use a fact (that has now been verified) in their advertising, then that seems just fine to me.  It is highly likely that their are many women in Colombia that fit this fact and it is ENTIRELY up to the visiting man to make the choice to marry one of these women!  Everybody else can offer imput, but untimately the man is responsible for his choice.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2009, 05:49:42 PM »

  ft, I have the opinion that it is odd for someone new to jump in the middle of a thread without introducing themselves.This is highly relevant since they are claiming to confirm a supposed fact.This source is unknown just as the source for the Economist mag. I myself have found other sources that contradict Colombia as having the lowest divorce rate in the world. If you want to debate that then debate it,other than that you are just trying to make me out to be a bad guy(once again) for some reason. I have stated that it doesnt matter if the fact is true anyone that has spent much time in Colombia knows this is crap.


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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2009, 05:56:43 PM »

   Another thing agencies list is that Latin women are nonmaterialistic and that a guy will have to insist on even paying taxi fare.This one is mixed,part true ,part crap.The only city I experienced women as not being materialistic was Bogota.Anywhere else I traveled this was simply not true.I didnt have to insist on paying taxi fare,it was expected.I didnt have a problem with it, I am just saying that this is,for the most part, a false claim.


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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2009, 07:12:19 PM »
    I have stated that it doesnt matter if the fact is true anyone that has spent much time in Colombia knows this is crap.
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I love your logic!  To paraphrase:  I’ve been to Colombia and dislike Jamie and that trumps anything written and researched! :D


   Another thing agencies list is that Latin women are nonmaterialistic and that a guy will have to insist on even paying taxi fare.This one is mixed,part true ,part crap.The only city I experienced women as not being materialistic was Bogota.Anywhere else I traveled this was simply not true.I didnt have to insist on paying taxi fare,it was expected.I didnt have a problem with it, I am just saying that this is,for the most part, a false claim.
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Is it safe for me to assume you have been scouring the International Introductions website again or did you find this from another?  Either way, from my experience it was definately expected that the man pay the taxi.  It was extremely rare that any lady would pay her fare while visiting me.  We agree on the obvious.

At least in the case of my woman thus far, the nonmaterialistic part is a valid statement.

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2009, 08:45:22 PM »
I love your logic!  To paraphrase:  I’ve been to Colombia and dislike Jamie and that trumps anything written and researched! :D

  
Is it safe for me to assume you have been scouring the International Introductions website again or did you find this from another?  Either way, from my experience it was definately expected that the man pay the taxi.  It was extremely rare that any lady would pay her fare while visiting me.  We agree on the obvious.

At least in the case of my woman thus far, the nonmaterialistic part is a valid statement.
Stop acting like a wandering deer in the headlights!  ;D

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   Yes I have made many trips to Colombia but no I don't dislike Jamie.I haven't brought him up once in this thread.You are jumping to conclusions.

  I'm glad you agree on this one.My woman is also nonmaterialistic but I met alot that were before her.

 Deer in the headlights?...I think you may be a little paranoid but its ok as long as you don't confuse me with a farm animal! :D :D :D

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2009, 09:53:51 PM »


    Thanks Buster, two more sources (that can be verified).
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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2009, 10:30:13 PM »

    Thanks Buster, two more sources (that can be verified).

I was hoping that in your furious zeal you would react to Buster's stats without looking a little more closely! ;D

Now since you did not do your due diligence, let me help you out a bit!  The second site good old Buster listed did not include Colombia at all in their divorce statistics as they did not participate! 
The first site Buster utilized is a site about MAPS, and the Statistic Buster listed is a statistic about Divorces per 1000 people.  That is NOT a divorce rate, as his stat includes all people, widows, children, people never married, etc. It is not a relevent fact, as extremely young countries would have a competitive advantage as all those children under 15 are likely to have not married yet and therefore could not have possibly divorced.

So "Researcher", How are you feeling about those 'verified' sources now? ;) Do you need a napkin for all that egg dripping off your mustache?     

I noticed that you failed to answer the previous question about where you pulled your "Taxi stat" from, are you trying to hide something again?
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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2009, 11:34:38 PM »


    Yes,per 1000 population.That's the same as the Economists study(go back and check ms's post) so its the same  thing. ::) ::)

  What statistic on paying for taxis are you talking about?

  You aren't making much sense fathertime,I think this is a case of PWI(Posting While Intoxicated). :D :D :D

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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2009, 11:54:20 PM »
yo yo ft!  Don't be dissing my numbers.  I spent a lot of time googling that.  Now you shamed me into digging deeper.  Interesting that the "source" link on the page takes you to a page which cites a group called Americans For Divorce Reform with their motto:  "Supporting cultural and legislative efforts to reduce divorce"  John Crouch, the Executive Director turns out to be a Virginia divorce lawyer.  Here's his bio:  http://patriot.net/~crouch/index.html#John Crouch  Turns out he used to be a park ranger.  Seems their group wants to make it harder to get divorced.  Anyways, for a moment there, it appeared that nobody in Colombia got divorced.  Thanks for setting me straight ft!! :-*

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2009, 12:09:13 AM »


  Hey Buster did you call fathertime a yo yo?Now in a battle of wits he's an unarmed man but I wouldn' t go as far as to call him a yo yo!! :D :D ;)


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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2009, 12:26:06 AM »
yo yo ft!  Don't be dissing my numbers.  I spent a lot of time googling that.  Now you shamed me into digging deeper.  Interesting that the "source" link on the page takes you to a page which cites a group called Americans For Divorce Reform with their motto:  "Supporting cultural and legislative efforts to reduce divorce"  John Crouch, the Executive Director turns out to be a Virginia divorce lawyer.  Here's his bio:  http://patriot.net/~crouch/index.html#John Crouch  Turns out he used to be a park ranger.  Seems their group wants to make it harder to get divorced.  Anyways, for a moment there, it appeared that nobody in Colombia got divorced.  Thanks for setting me straight ft!! :-*

yoyo buster!

No problem, it was nice that 'researcher' fell right into the quicksand without digging a little deeper first!  He certainly isn't a very good researcher! :D


  Hey Buster did you call fathertime a yo yo?Now in a battle of wits he's an unarmed man but I wouldn' t go as far as to call him a yo yo!! :D :D ;)
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I still notice you are afraid to mention what website you are quoting with the: ' and that a guy will have to insist on even paying taxi fare.' Why such fear to directly name your sources?
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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2009, 12:32:36 AM »
There is no good study of the divorce rate in the US or accurate statistic for the divorce rate (range is about 15%-50%+) and you expect there to be readily available accurate stats for every country in the world?

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Re: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2009, 01:41:12 AM »


   Well ft, I really am not getting where you are coming from on the source for this thread.Sleep it off and try again tomorrow.

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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2009, 02:37:59 AM »
There is no good study of the divorce rate in the US or accurate statistic for the divorce rate (range is about 15%-50%+) and you expect there to be readily available accurate stats for every country in the world?


             True jm21-2 but agencies use this kind of mis-information to advertise.As you an see there are plenty of guys willing to believe it and the other hypeas well.


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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2009, 09:42:19 AM »

   Well ft, I really am not getting where you are coming from on the source for this thread.Sleep it off and try again tomorrow.

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There is nothing to sleep off Researcher. The question is simple but I will repeat for a third time.  Which agency did you pull your statement about the women insisting on paying the taxi fare or did you just make the whole thing up? Once again here are your actual words:
   Another thing agencies list is that Latin women are nonmaterialistic and that a guy will have to insist on even paying taxi fare.This one is mixed,part true ,part crap.The only city I experienced women as not being materialistic was Bogota.Anywhere else I traveled this was simply not true.I didnt have to insist on paying taxi fare,it was expected.I didnt have a problem with it, I am just saying that this is,for the most part, a false claim.
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Why are you so afraid to answer the question and pretending I’m drunk for asking?  Anybody reading this can see this is a direct question that you continue to evade and pretend it is confusing.    You are the one who posted this comment about an agency in the first place and now you are afraid to back it up. Living life in constant fear must be difficult or maybe you are used to it by now.

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