Who wants to hear Wm3's Philippine and Thai marriage horror stories???

[sean126]

Any truly single woman over 30, especially overseas probably isn't much of a catch. Why hasn't someone already snagged her? You know she has got problems of some sort if she is an attractive never been married, no kids woman. So why marry that kind of trouble???

I must whole heartedly agree with Capstone.  This is on the verge of being the most retarded thing said on this forum to date....(with all due respect).

I usually would have a million word essay to refute such silliness....but this is sooooo retarded, words escape even me.

I was 37 before I got married, no prior divorces and no kids.  That's a problem?  My wife was 29, no prior divorces and no kids.  Yeah....we've got big problems for being smart enough to wait for the "right one" to come into our lives.   

[sean126]

btw....great story Sir William.

[bcc_1_2]

a lot of hot latinas with no kids in their 30s seem to get ignored by gringos. i at least had a decent excuse for paying them no attention.  sorry for the off topic... i just didn't believe graham is who his profile says he (it) is.

[Cbear]

Wm3, please return this thread to its original content by giving us another story.

A fake profile hi-jacked this thread as similar posts have hi-jacked many other threads about the same thing. 

No more age related posts guys, this is about horror stories.

[Ray]

Any truly single woman over 30, especially overseas probably isn't much of a catch. Why hasn't someone already snagged her? You know she has got problems of some sort if she is an attractive never been married, no kids woman. So why marry that kind of trouble???

I am divorced and I don't ever want divorced again, so why invite trouble with a high risk woman.

Oh Boy!

Well, if you don't ever want to divorce again then here is a simple answer for you: DON'T MARRY AGAIN! No marriage = no risk… DUH!

Listen up cbear! I married a 35-year-old, truly single, never married, no kids, beautiful, intelligent, loving woman.

And now you, in your infinite wisdom, “know” that she must have “problems of some sort”?

I think that perhaps it is YOU who has “problems of some sort”…

Ray

[sean126]

Oh Boy!

Well, if you don't ever want to divorce again then here is a simple answer for you: DON'T MARRY AGAIN! No marriage = no risk… DUH!

Listen up cbear! I married a 35-year-old, truly single, never married, no kids, beautiful, intelligent, loving woman.

And now you, in your infinite wisdom, “know” that she must have “problems of some sort”?

I think that perhaps it is YOU who has “problems of some sort”…

Ray

Ray,

If she married you then she must have some problems!   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(just joking...tee hee, tee hee)

[Cbear]

guys, stop hijacking the thread.

Look, you can't eliminate all risk and I don't think all woman over 30 fit my description, but most do. I am only generalizing. But this part is true, the older a lady becomes the more likely she is to have problems with the health of her children, that is a medical fact.

Now can we get back to what this thread was about. Thank you.

[Ray]

guys, stop hijacking the thread.

Look, you can't eliminate all risk and I don't think all woman over 30 fit my description, but most do. I am only generalizing. But this part is true, the older a lady becomes the more likely she is to have problems with the health of her children, that is a medical fact.

Now can we get back to what this thread was about. Thank you.

Huh? Hijack the thread??

I'm sorry, but we didn’t hijack your thread so please stop your whining. We were only responding to YOUR stupid, ignorant comment about ladies over 30.

You insulted several members here and their wives and now you are so anxious to have US drop the subject?

I can think of several female members here, who were in your single, over 30 category when they married, and their husbands would be the envy of any sensible guy looking for a fine wife. Tess and May10 come to mind immediately, but I am sure there are others that would be insulted by your arrogant and ignorant comments.

Instead of trying to spin your ignorant remarks into some kind of "medical fact", why don't you just admit that you're now playing one of the Age Police, whom you previously apparently despised.

Ray

[Cbear]

jeesh Ray, your panties in a wad???

I don't care how old someone is, I just don't care. So I'm not the age police, I was only giving reasons why I wouldn't date someone over 30. Personal preference. But that facts are that most woman over 30 fall into exactly the description I made. There are exceptions just like with most young girls, most are not mature enough for a relationship. But some are.

Each relationship must be judged on it's own merits.

When I was searching I talked with many many woman over 30, none of them made my top 10. For the reasons I stated.

I also spoke to many many ladies 18 to 30. Only 2 girls were under 22, most were late 20s.

When I was just a lad of 19 I had 3 girlfriends that year, the youngest was a Filipina from NY city, she was 21, the next was a Mexican lady from San Antonio 28, and last was a NC girl who was 33.

So age truly does not matter to me, do what you want, only you know if you have a real relationship and if the girl is good or not. There are good woman of all ages, it is just a bigger pool of good woman down in the lower age brackets.

Now as to medical fact about younger woman having healthier babies, Ray, this is true, it is so true that a very simple google search on your part will prove I'm right. But you, know, I think you already know this. So does everyone else on here. It is a simple evident truth backed up by medical science. It is true, deal with it.

I did not insult anyone and you know it, if someone took offense to what I said then they either have a chip on their shoulder or they are exactly what I said because I didn't single anyone out at all.

The reason I wanted the hijacking to stop was because Wm3 said he wasn't going to post on this thread anymore, I wanted to return to the original content of the thread.  This thread was hijacked, read it all and you will see.

[Ray]

But that facts are that most woman over 30 fall into exactly the description I made.

Those are NOT facts, just your ignorant opinion.

I did not insult anyone and you know it, if someone took offense to what I said then they either have a chip on their shoulder or they are exactly what I said because I didn't single anyone out at all.
Read your words again:

Oh give me a break! Yes, you did insult all foreign women falling into your broad category. Read your words again…

Any truly single woman over 30, especially overseas probably isn't much of a catch. Why hasn't someone already snagged her? You know she has got problems of some sort if she is an attractive never been married, no kids woman. So why marry that kind of trouble

ANY woman over 30? (Sounds like all of them to me)

Not much of a catch? (meaning not worth a shyt?)

You know she has got problems? (You don’t KNOW anything. You’re only guessing)

Why marry THAT kind of trouble? (Exactly WHAT kind of TROUBLE cbear?)

Yes cbear, your comments were insulting, naive, ignorant, and just plain stupid!

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Ray

[Capstone]

I don't care how old someone is, I just don't care. So I'm not the age police, I was only giving reasons why I wouldn't date someone over 30. Personal preference. But that facts are that most woman over 30 fall into exactly the description I made. There are exceptions just like with most young girls, most are not mature enough for a relationship. But some are.

Facts, what facts? The only fact is that you are totally clueless. One thing that may be a fact is that all the women who are over 30 that you can attract fall into your description. Please don't make blanket statements about something that you are obviously totally clueless about.

[william3rd]

Just change the title of this thread- I will post my anecdotes outside of this thread. ANyway- I am off to the airport so there wont be anything happening for a day or two. . . .

[Cbear]

you guys kill me, LOL

I can easily attract woman in their 30s, I just know from talking to hundreds of them that they are for the most part exactly as I stated.

Admit it guys, most of the good girls are taken long before they reach age 30.

I'm sure census data would show that most single woman over 30 already have children, and are divorced. Of course that wouldn't include all the ones who cant get over the ex BF who dumped her and broke her heart, leaving behind a bitterness for her next man.

I am not willing to take a chance on a woman who has children, period.

I am not willing to take a chance on a divorced woman, period.

I am not willing to take a chance on a woman over 30 because of fertility issues. I want children and my age is already a big enough factor (mens age also affects health of the children) No guarantee with a younger lady but the odds are better.

I am not willing to take a chance on a woman who has remained single for so long. I honestly believe that most truly single, no kids woman over 30 have issues or they would be married already. I did not meet one single lady over 30 that I thought was normal after getting to know her a few days.

Maybe there are a few out there, but I sure didn't find any. BTW, I did not talk with any woman over 36.

Deal with it guys, the available pool of good woman is much greater for ladies under 30. Can you really say with a straight face this isn't true??

[Capstone]

I honestly believe that most truly single, no kids woman over 30 have issues or they would be married already. I did not meet one single lady over 30 that I thought was normal after getting to know her a few days.

Maybe there are a few out there, but I sure didn't find any.

These statements pretty much confirm what I previously said - that all the women who are over 30 that you can attract fall into your description. Don't talk with certainly about the countless other Quality women who are over 30 that are out there that the rest of us can obviously attract without any problems.

Now why don't you show a little class and drop your idiotic and insulting argument.

[Ray]

Here, somebody smack this big dummy upside the head...

[Cbear]

The only data I could find. Philippines census data, single woman over 35. 2.5% Thats it, only 2.5% of woman over 35 in the Philippines are single. This doesn't take into account how many of these single ladies have children already.

I couldn't find numbers for over 30.

The average age of marriage for women in the Philippines is 24. Assuming the median is close, and marriage starts at 18, a 6 year difference, add that to 24 and you have 30. Of course all the marriages above 30 would tend to pull the average higher. So the median is probably actually lower than 24. So you can deduce from this average that most woman in the Philippines are married before age 30. And those that aren't are the odd balls.

Again, I am not saying all, just most. the data backs me up. Deal with it.

[bcc_1_2]

might help if the damn government would let them get a divorce. members i suspect have wifes, girl friends, and financees from all over (Honduras, Colombia, Peru, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, China, and in this case from the original topic Thailand, etc).

Your statement was not limited to just the Philippines.

I'm just really surprised you'd make a statement like that. I suggest the vast majority of teenagers aren't ready for marriage and I'm the age police... but you can trash every woman over 30? Seriously?

I don't think most women in developed nations are getting married until close to 30 on average. Talk about out of touch. I'm game to understanding the social, family, cultural, and financial pressures are far different in the Philippines than in Latin America and other Asia countries... but damn really... you want to throw 30 year old women under the bus?

And when someone questions you throwing 30 (+) year old women under the bus the thread then becomes hijacked? Really? Sounds prettty convenient.

[creeper1]

I think this thread will have to restated under a slightly different name.

Medical problems can happen in pregnancy and you are right the risks  do decrease the younger a woman is. However my mother had my brother when she was in her early 40s and thank God, he is healthy.

I honestly think the world generally is changing. And the Philippines isn't a different planet. Women are getting married later and later. It has it's plusses and minuses.

Honestly in China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore etc I believe successful women can stilll be single in their 30s and definetly have no "problems". The only problem would be successful and putting her career first.

I could critisize Cbear for choosing an 18year old as his life partner but to do so would only repeat JM-21's responses in the epic "Plan A found out about Plan B" thread. Some of the wisest things written on this site are on there IMO . Cbear is a caricature of a Western man looking for a wife in Asia.

[bcc_1_2]

Cbear is a caricature of a Western man looking for a wife in Asia.

ouch, wasn't going to go there.

[Capstone]

Again, I am not saying all, just most. the data backs me up. Deal with it.

So your irrefutable, all encompassing, non-linked data set which suppossidly shows what the median age for marriage in the Philippines proves out your earlier statement of:

Any truly single woman over 30, especially overseas probably isn't much of a catch. Why hasn't someone already snagged her? You know she has got problems of some sort if she is an attractive never been married, no kids woman.

Wow professor I really wish that I had your intellect and superior reasoning and deduction skills which lead you to this conclusion based upon that overwhelming data set that you provided.

You just can't give it up can you? Look it is not my fault that you can't attract a Quality woman who is a bit closer to your own age but please stop trying to insult the rest of us who do not share your shortcomings in this area.

[piglett]

So age truly does not matter to me, do what you want, only you know if you have a real relationship and if the girl is good or not. There are good woman of all ages, it is just a bigger pool of good woman down in the lower age brackets.

I will have to agree 100% with this statment !!!

piglett

[Cbear]

Capstone, I hate doing peoples work for them, you think I'm wrong, prove me wrong. When you present your case then I'll deliver the census data and prove you wrong.

It took me less than 20 minutes of searching to find the data. You can do it too, so do it.

I only search for data realitive to the Philippines because that is where I was searching. But I do believe it follows in most countries.

I came to this conclusion by being around woman over 30 in my own country and talking with hundreds from the Philippines and a few from other asian countries.

The data set just backs me up, there are very few never married, no children woman over 30. You cannot possibly dispute that, it is even that way in America. 

BCC, I agree about no divorce in the Philippines, but I don't want a divorced woman regardless of age, or one with children, regardless of age. My guess is the stats for previously married woman and married woman combined are pretty close in all the third world countries, this is just a guess, but an educated guess.

As far as woman in America, I am going to see what I can dig up about never married, no children woman over 30.

Creeper, "Cbear is a caricature of a Western man looking for a wife in Asia."

Really, so I want a young girl from a poor family and I have no intentions of letting her have children, I want her to be a slave and stay at home and be at my beck and call............................That is the caricature,

not a sophisticated educated lady from a wealthy family who is definitely going to have children. HHMMM, she doesn't quite fit with your definition now does she.

This thread was hijacked, I didn't start with the age crap, I just responded and you guys don't like it because it rings true and you know it.

[bcc_1_2]

I came to this conclusion by being around woman over 30 in my own country and talking with hundreds from the Philippines and a few from other asian countries.

The data set just backs me up, there are very few never married, no children woman over 30. You cannot possibly dispute that, it is even that way in America.  

When you discuss the world population why use a data set based on one country where you admit its damn near impossible to get a divorce. I don't want a divorced woman either, but that is no excuse for the comment. Yet when you look worldwide single women 30 plus are very common (with no children and no ex-husband). I highly suggest you rethink your agrument.

You can't pick a data set from one country which you admit is skewed and apply it to the entire planet. I hope even believe you must know better than that. In this case you can't make the actual data fit your comment. Maybe it is time to admit a miscalculation in your comments?

Let's put it this way if you supported your comment with this at a university you'd fail and be laughed at.

[Capstone]

Capstone, I hate doing peoples work for them, you think I'm wrong, prove me wrong. When you present your case then I'll deliver the census data and prove you wrong.

It took me less than 20 minutes of searching to find the data. You can do it too, so do it.

I only search for data realitive to the Philippines because that is where I was searching. But I do believe it follows in most countries.

I came to this conclusion by being around woman over 30 in my own country and talking with hundreds from the Philippines and a few from other asian countries.

The data set just backs me up, there are very few never married, no children woman over 30. You cannot possibly dispute that, it is even that way in America. 

You hate doing people's work for them - how about doing your own work Nimrod? Your lame data set showed what the median ages of women at time of marriage in the PR. Now please tell me how that backs up and proves out your previous statement below??

Any truly single woman over 30, especially overseas probably isn't much of a catch. Why hasn't someone already snagged her? You know she has got problems of some sort if she is an attractive never been married, no kids woman.

Now how does your data correspond with anything in the above statement? It does not and do you know why? Because it is complete and utter BS that was spewed by a clueless idiot.

If you really want some data that would be relevant to your situation since you are so scared of divorce then suck on these numbers from http://www.divorcerate.org/:

Age at marriage for those who divorce in America Age    Women       Men
Under 20 years old                                                    27.6%       11.7%
20 to 24 years old                                                    36.6%        38.8%
25 to 29 years old                                                    16.4%        22.3%
30 to 34 years old                                                     8.5%         11.6% 
35 to 39 years old                                                      5.1%          6.5%

According to those numbers woman who marry after they turn 30 have a much lower divorce rate than women who marry at a younger age. Anyway I am tired of sparing with such a mental midget who has such a narrow-minded and clueless outlook on women and this is my last word on the subject.

[Cbear]

Capstone, your divorce rate figures are for American marriages. Fil-Am marriages have a much lower divorce rate. The figures I have seen are below 20%. This is for Fil-Ams and all other asian marriages in the US. I'll dig up the stats tomorrow if I have time. I found a U.S. census study on it way back when I was searching.

I did a lot of research on the subject before I started looking.

Even in America, men don't want 30+ woman. For lots of reasons.

And face it folks, no matter how you spin it, most woman are married at least once before they are 30. In some western countries this might be seen as co habituating for a specific amount of time as in some European countries, marriages as a whole are way down, but co- habitation is up, I would not consider a woman who has lived with a man either. Same as marriage to me.


Admit it guys, woman over 30 are not good catches. If they were, they would have been caught already. sure, some slip through the cracks and really are good woman but the majority are not. Just as most really young woman are not mature enough for a relationship but a handful are. I can acknowledge this, why can't you?

EVERY RELATIONSHIP MUST BE JUDGED ON ITS OWN MERITS.