Author Topic: Vietnam anyone? (Read 7851 times)

piglett · « **Reply #50 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:26:41 PM »

Well i for one am done with AW. unless one of these 3 ladies come knocking on my door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDIQGmglFW8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ZX7Rfwuh4&feature=related

i think there British not American anyways

the music is just Ok but the girls are oh so hot

piglett

michaelb · « **Reply #51 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:30:46 PM »

Unlike the Vietnamese women in the video, apparently SOME women object to being tested....can't say that I disagree with them.

June 30, 2009 A protester holds a placard during a protest in New Delhi. The National Federation of Indian Women said 151 young women were subjected to virginity tests by the administration in Madhya Pradesh during a state-sponsored mass marriage last month.

piglett · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:52:46 PM »

Quote from: michaelb on July 30, 2009, 11:30:46 PM

Unlike the Vietnamese women in the video, apparently SOME women object to being tested....can't say that I disagree with them.

June 30, 2009 A protester holds a placard during a protest in New Delhi. The National Federation of Indian Women said 151 young women were subjected to virginity tests by the administration in Madhya Pradesh during a state-sponsored mass marriage last month.

i'm going to guess that the non virgins are the ones that have a problem with this

Planet-Love.com · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:52:46 PM »

michaelb · « **Reply #53 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:13:00 AM »

I'm simply suggesting that men shouldn't demand from women something they can't give themselves.

Cbear · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:31:47 AM »

In some cultures it is expected that the man be sexually experienced while the woman he eventually marries is to remain pure. Vietnam is one of these cultures. So is Cambodia.

Why are we always trying to change the cultures of the places we visit? Eventually there wont be any culture left.

I am a Christian and I think both men and woman should wait until marriage. But in my case I am divorced and the women I date are mostly virgins. I am celibate since my wife left me and I haven't had sex for about a year and a half now. I expect my future wife to either be a virgin or be celibate like myself. And not just celibate after she met me, but as a lifestyle choice before we even met.

Hmm, not many of those around like me, so it is easier to find a virgin. Well at least it is where I am looking. So I see nothing wrong with having her tested if she tells me she is a virgin then I expect her to be. Besides, I wont start a relationship with a lie.

Swisskid · « **Reply #55 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:12:41 AM »

Quote from: Cbear on July 31, 2009, 12:31:47 AM

So I see nothing wrong with having her tested if she tells me she is a virgin then I expect her to be. Besides, I wont start a relationship with a lie.

WTF? Sorry dude, that's just a tad bit twisted in my book. So much for a marriage based on trust, unconditional love, and mutual understanding. So if she is then having you tested for AIDS, herpes, and all sundry forms of the clap since you are an unclean non-virgin I am sure you would not be offended? Turnabout is fair play, no? Or is she just supposed to take your word for it when you won't take hers?

Cbear · « **Reply #56 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:09:23 AM »

Hell yeah I'll get tested for my girl. It will give her peace of mind.

CeeTeeEnn · « **Reply #57 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:14:56 AM »

my 2 pennies on this one....

i don't think it's good "game" to ask a girl as to the status of her virginity. It's not that I belive private sexual matters should necessarily be swept under the carpet and the past should not be discussed. However, just because the local guys make direct personal enquiries, I don't necessarily believe it's the best form of action for a Westerner to take.

If a girl is a non-virgin and knows the deal-breaker question is coming up, what's she gonna say? Suppose she lies when she's not (for whatever reason) just to tell you what you want to hear? Then one day, as the relationship is getting serious, she tells you she suffered an isolated "indicent" of abuse by an uncle when she was young.. or that she had an "accident" riding a bike etc. but that she IS still a virigin, albeit an unverifyable one? Isn't it better to ask her a few indirect sexual questions (such as her attitude towards condoms or pregnancy) and make her believe that, as a symptom of your Hollywood-brainwashed Western view of the world, and ignorance of her culture, that in 2009 you are expecting practically *all* attractive and well-balanced girls to be at least somewhat experienced before marriage? And - more importantly - that you cannot see why non-virgins should be condemned as unworthy of marriage? A non-virgin will then more likely come clean with you and tell you what really happened. A true virgin on the other hand should stand her ground and explain herself, and maybe give you a quick cultural lesson in the meantime, assuming she in really interested in you and is not offended by your widely-held but ignorant "liberal" view of the world. You can then decide accordingly how best to proceed. I think you'll have less chance of being played this way.

As for the guys who are nice, decent and worthy but are still too embarrased to travel to a non-Western country to look for a bride for fear of what their friends or peers or co-workers might say about them.. it's better to leave them alone. You have to be mentally strong to do something like this and putting up with jibes from your (secretly admiring and likely jealous) mates at the bar is just about the least of the problems you'll face on your relationship journey. They'll discover their own paths to Latin America, Asia or Eastern Europe if they are truly worthy.

Dave H · « **Reply #58 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:22:56 AM »

Quote from: stevjulietb on July 30, 2009, 04:33:00 AM

I have tried for 5 years to get a friend to go to the PI with us. I have told him all we have to do is sit in my wife's Momma's house in the village and the girls would come to him. They wouldn't come on to him , but would use Juliet to start the conversation. I don't think he believes me....Oh well!

Steveb

Hey Steve,

Most American guys are suspicious from having been brainwashed by our Femnazi society! "AW's all told me that NO woman in her right mind would want a broken down man like me. I'm old, fat, bald, and ugly. Foreign women are just going to use me too!" American men figure that there has got to be some "catch" or "angle." Amazing, but it is really as easy as sitting in "Momma's house" in the Philippines and meeting amazing ladies. Man, your friend is missing out on a FANTASTIC opportunity!

Dave

stevjulietb · « **Reply #59 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:34:50 AM »

Dave,

I guess I didn't wake-up until I was 47, maybe he will do the same?

I personally believe the virgin issue is a personal choice, by that I mean, its like politics, starts an arguement everytime. Maybe we should all be invited to the Whitehouse for a beer with the prez....

Steveb

bcc_1_2 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2009, 08:06:26 AM »

Quote from: stevjulietb on July 30, 2009, 11:32:23 AM

Bear and Pig,

I feel sorry for the kid, lol, (he is 40 and played basketball for me in the mid-eighties). I'm sure he isn't satisified with AW treatment, and I worry about his health. He is overweight, smoking, and works too many hours at work. I'm sure he gets discouragement from friends and family when he tells them about the possibility of traveling to PI.

Steveb

40... not really a kid anymore

. It is kinda hard to do anything about the working issue right now with the economy ... but he can stop smoking and spend a little time in the gym. i got off the beer (except for the occasional one in Honduras) and all the grease. you feel a lot better. as a basketball player myself i can tell you if you get out there and play basketball... instead of just exercise... it doesn't feel like work.

As for the virginity issue... if anyone watched the youtube clip I posted a guy paid 10,000 for a girl from vietnam who was a virgin and passed her "virginity checkup". one faction in the debate thinks that testing for virginity and being a virgin before marriage is moral (for the girl... generally doesn't apply to the man). Another faction (the one i'm in) thinks asking women to take a virginity test is slimy.

I don't think demanding a test is very classy. She'll have to do an STD/HIV panel which in realityland is far more important.

Bear · « **Reply #61 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:02:37 PM »

Quote from: stevjulietb on July 31, 2009, 05:34:50 AM

I guess I didn't wake-up until I was 47, maybe he will do the same?

Beat ya by 2 years. Almost didn't. I had seen hundreds of Filipinas in Cherry Blossoms looking for a man but it just seemed like another scam to me. I think it was the dude I met at the hotel that really convinced me to give it that try. I had already decided to divorce and was looking for a reason. I had had several other AW ladies show an interest (although I didn't respond to their advances) but I just didn't want anymore hassles with AWs - they all seemed programed to "expect" from me without giving anything themeselves. Looking at that guy with his 36 y.o. wife who's looks put most girls I knew to shame and having him tell me she was a virgin when they married! Then there was the Morning TV show where I saw several "MOB" Asian ladies interviewed and one said they were raised to "respect" their husbands!! It was something I knew the minute I heard it wasn't happening in America. Virgins, respect, good looks, less likely to divorce (meaning they are trained to work it out where AWs grab what they can and run most of the time) then I added in the Philippines attitude towards Americans and their religion and politics and I was completely sold. It was like a tropical treasure paradise with golden ladies who thought I was the prize? I just didn't see how I could lose. I was and still am right!

The Bear Family

Ray · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:49:54 PM »

Quote from: Cbear on July 31, 2009, 12:31:47 AM

Why are we always trying to change the cultures of the places we visit? Eventually there wont be any culture left.

...I see nothing wrong with having her tested if she tells me she is a virgin then I expect her to be. Besides, I wont start a relationship with a lie.

Now wait just a damn minute!

Not EVERYTHING in foreign cultures is positive. Some aspects of foreign cultures need to be rejected.

In some cultures, they beat women in public for daring to go outside without a male escort. And they bomb schools that dare to allow girls to participate in education. Do you really want to preserve that sort of crap just because it's "part of the culture"?? Think about it!

Iâ€™ll have to agree with Michael B & bcc on this oneâ€¦â€asking women to take a virginity test is slimyâ€.

Ray

Planet-Love.com · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:49:54 PM »

Cbear · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2009, 06:13:51 PM »

Ray, I do agree with what you are saying and I myself wont ask a girl to take a virginity test, but if she tells me she is and I find out she lied then it is over. I will not tolerate lying like that in a relationship.

My gf doesn't have to be a virgin but she better not lie to me about.

piglett · « **Reply #64 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:47:46 PM »

Quote from: Cbear on July 31, 2009, 06:13:51 PM

Ray, I do agree with what you are saying and I myself wont ask a girl to take a virginity test, but if she tells me she is and I find out she lied then it is over. I will not tolerate lying like that in a relationship.

My gf doesn't have to be a virgin but she better not lie to me about.

Ditto

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