Vietnam anyone?

[crashfirepm53]

I'm interested if anyone has been and tried meeting any women there? Personally, I find them alot more attractive than Fillipino, Korean, Thai or Japanese.

[piglett]

A friend of mine married a lady from Vietnam
she mite have some friends
U want me to find out??


piglett

[Cbear]

I looked into it, some Christian and Catholic girls there also.

They don't like the large age differences there, maybe 15 years max. The average age there is under 25, it is a very young population.

There was a recent study done at the universities there and it was discovered that more than 85% of the woman were virgins. It is still a huge issue in that country. So if you think you are going to date a girl and have the GF experience, well, it isn't gonna happen.

The girls are really cute and petite there. Very classic Asian beauty.

try Vietnam cupid. Not a lot of girls but more than most other sites. The good ones go really fast.

[Jeff S]

I'm interested if anyone has been and tried meeting any women there? Personally, I find them alot more attractive than Fillipino, Korean, Thai or Japanese.

To each his own. I find Vietnamese girls very cute. I'd spend some time learning about the culture before making a decision of where to look, though. As I've posted many times here - this isn't a quest of who has the best looking women. It's about finding which culture you can integrate yourself into - because, believe me, for the rest of your life, you're stuck with it, like it or not. Only after that shold you start looking for a suitable partner from that culture. Every country has its Jessica Albas and Rosie O'Donnells, Vanessa Williams' and Whoopie Goldbergs, Salma Hayeks and Sonia Sotomayors.

I almost got to go to Viet Nam back in the very early 70s, but fortunately I lost the lottery when the SSS switched to that method. I've been through Vietnam since but never dated any of the girls. It was after I was married. I do spend quite a bit of time in Little Saigon, though, so get a taste of the food, language, culture, and of course the coffee shops.

[crashfirepm53]

I understand this isn't a quest about who has the best looking women. It was just my opinion that when comparing Asian women on different Cupid sites, I find the Vietamese to be much better looking on average. With this Jeff, my interest is stirred so that's why I posed the question" does anyone have any experience in Vietnam and dating.

I think it is fairly obvious that the Phillipines is the place to go to find a bride that would blend into the western culture with less issues.

[Dave H]

I'm interested if anyone has been and tried meeting any women there? Personally, I find them alot more attractive than Fillipino, Korean, Thai or Japanese.

Hey crashfirepm53,

Not me! I have never had much desire to go there...I guess it reminds me of a "senior trip" I almost made once.

  I still haven't figured out what a Filipina "looks" like? White, Black, Spanish, Malay, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, a combination...I have seen them all here. I think that there are more different looks here than any other country in Asia! The Vietnamese all think that my wife is one of them.  The Philippines...land of variety!

Dave

[Jeff S]

It's more about you adapting to her culture, which she'll bring with her, than about she adapting to life in the US, IMO. If she makes the home, she decides the expectations, rules, family traditions, how the children will be raised, nutrition, faith, and a majority of the activities, so that's the world you will have to live in. You'll also need to learn a considerable amount of her language if you want to follow what's going on in her world. That's the point I was trying to make. That will be true no matter which country your wife is from. I wasn't making the case for any particular culture, certainly not the Filipino, just encouraging you to investigate the different cultures and deciding which one fits best for you. What suits my lifestyle, expectations, and personality is likely very different than what suits yours.

[bcc_1_2]

I'd listen to Jeff on this. I tried to do my homework on countries and cultures before making a trip. I've been to asia but my trips to meet women recently have all been to Latin America. I ended up with a girl from a country that is way off the beaten path for most posters here.

For me, I was open to visiting Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Mongolia, and China. South Korea was a definite no for me. So to each there own. Do your homework and have a nice trip. In general Vietnamese women can be pretty hot, but I can tell you in Latin America you can find some really hot women... and some uggos as well. Here in the midwest many women are so fat it will be refreshing for you regardless as to which country you pick.

[Ray]

There was a recent study done at the universities there and it was discovered that more than 85% of the woman were virgins.

85% of Vietnamese women are virgins? Baloney!

If you had said that 85% of Vietnamese girls under the age of 12 were virgins, I might have believed you.

[jm21-2]

More like 85% say they are virgins on a survey.

Beware the photos, they may mean next to nothing. It seemed like there were way more professional photos on the Vietnamese sites that could potentially be very deceiving. The difference between an ugly picture and a beautiful picture may just be a different style of clothes, some make up, different lighting, different camera angle, etc. I think there are plenty of beautiful girls in every Asian country.

[Cbear]

It was a university study, yes, based on surveys, all these kinds of social based study programs are survey based, but once you delve into the culture, you will see the study was right. The Vietnamese don't let there young woman work, they don't want to ruin a chance at a good marriage. They definitely don't let them have sex. It is a huge shame there to not be a virgin on your wedding night. Talk about culture, well that is the culture there. Men from all over Asia go there to find virgin brides, it is a thriving business.

Of course poverty forces many to sell the children into prostitution but they are shipped out of the country. Slavery, pure and simple.

The vast majority of the woman, even college woman, are virgins. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false.

This is an easy one to research, so do it yourselves, then you don't have to believe me

[bcc_1_2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FScBxMqC9cI

[Ray]

The vast majority of the woman, even college woman, are virgins. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false.

This is an easy one to research, so do it yourselves, then you don't have to believe me

Pure Bullshyt!

I wouldn't waste my time researching something so painfully obvious. Please tell me how they make babies over there if 85% of the women are virgins...  Think man!

I think you either read it wrong or got that from some BS MOB site.

Yes, and just because you believe it doesn't make it true. Care to post a link??

Ray

[bcc_1_2]

that video i posted does illustrates (well it illustrates a lot really) virginity in vietnam is a way different issue than here in the USA... obviously. But seriously let's not drink the Kool Aide or smoke the crack pipe here either.  If this is a poor country girl with a lot of parental control... then sure she might be a virgin.

if its a city (party) girl with a little cash (or has guy friends with some) she may be giving you the Bill Clinton answer.

[Cbear]

Pure Bullshyt!

I wouldn't waste my time researching something so painfully obvious. Please tell me how they make babies over there if 85% of the women are virgins...  Think man!

I think you either read it wrong or got that from some BS MOB site.

Yes, and just because you believe it doesn't make it true. Care to post a link??

Ray

Ray, we are talking single woman here and you know it. Geesh, now do the research yourself, that way there is no bias, just find it yourself, it isn't that hard to find. LOL

[Ray]

Ray, we are talking single woman here and you know it. Geesh, now do the research yourself, that way there is no bias, just find it yourself, it isn't that hard to find. LOL

I know nothing of the sort. You said, and I quote, "more than 85% of the woman were virgins" and "The vast majority of the woman, even college woman, are virgins".

You said nothing about marital status, age, or anything else, just lumped the whole female population into some silly mythical "study".

Well, you've now gone from "more than 85%" to "the vast majority" to "single women". Now you're starting to think, so keep going. Don't stop now. 

And once again, do you have a link to this mysterious "university study"? Don't expect me to research this junk for you. You made the claim, so you should be able to back it up with something more tangible.

Ray

[Bob_S]

Ahem...

Back on topic, I once dated a Vietnamese girl from an immigrant family in Little Saigon.  Sweet girl, cute, tall for a VC (must have had some Chinese in the blood line), but ultimately not a match, at least not enough to be worth sustaining a long distance relationship when her family sent her across the country to nail salon school.  I met her through the introduction of a mutual friend who married a Thai village girl and was trying to play matchmaker with other Asian girls she knew.  That's one of the better ways of meeting "nice" girls from SE Asia (not the ones Ray met when he was huntin' charlie in the rice paddies 30 years ago  ).


But listen to Jeff on this.  Her culture becomes part of your culture.  Do you like the food from there?  Can you learn some of the lingo?  How about their music and popular culture?  Don't expect them to Westernize.  In fact, you wouldn't want them if they did.  Ya know?

Oh, while I know nothing about percentages of virgins here or there, Ray is right on this point: basic rules of debate state that the affirmative (the person making a claim of facts) bears the burden of proof.  You cannot say "I'm right, there is evidence to support me, go find it for me."  You make the statement, you present the evidence.  And if you find it, please post it; I'm curious myself if the study was specific to Vietnam or included other countries in the region.

[Cbear]

Bob, I don't care what the rules of debate are, I make my own rules, LOL If I didn't I would settle for some fat lazy western woman with 3 kids from different daddies and a big chip on her shoulder cause she thinks she is gods gift to mankind.

BTW, it was specific to Vietnam only. I guess I should have stated single women only and been more accurate about that.

I just don't think I should have to dig it up, I am not the one who is interested in dating a Vietnamese girl. I studied the culture and it wasn't for me. I have also been told that it is hard to get a visa for your lady from there but I have no proof if this is true or not. Second hand info.

[Dave H]

If you think virginity is a huge issue in Vietnam, it is even bigger in the Philippines with over 90% of the population Christian and 85% of those Catholic. I constantly hear of lawsuits being filed for defamation of character, because someone said that a lady wasn't a virgin. Many people are not prosecuted for murder (family of victim usually has to prosecute) or civil cases, but you'd better have very good proof if you say a woman isn't a virgin!!!

Sure there are desperate girls who will shag you in an attempt to get out of poverty. There are also bargirls. But that it is not the norm in the Philippines and those people are looked down upon!

Beware of professional glamour shots! Poor Mr Dudley below learned the hard way!   I don't think that I have ever seen a nonprofessional (only glamour shots) of  Vietnamese women on sites. It is very common for a Filipina to use a bad, non-professional photo, often shot with a cellphone camera or webcam. The good thing is that when you meet in person, they usually much better looking than in their photos.

Dave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDrITaBPdt8

[piglett]

that ting -tong sore is a smooth opperator

[Bob_S]

Bob, I don't care what the rules of debate are, I make my own rules, LOL If I didn't I would settle for some fat lazy western woman with 3 kids from different daddies and a big chip on her shoulder cause she thinks she is gods gift to mankind.

Well, if you think about it, the AW are the ones who violated the rules.  The rule is: be nice to your spouse and appreciate when they are nice to you.  In seeking a foreign spouse, we want a woman who remembers the old rules! 

BTW, it was specific to Vietnam only. I guess I should have stated single women only and been more accurate about that.

I just don't think I should have to dig it up, I am not the one who is interested in dating a Vietnamese girl.

No, but you are the one who made a statement of fact.  It's about credibility.  If a person spouts facts without having some source to back it up, they start sounding like another Cliff Clavin (IMHO).  If you stated that you read it in an article in Newsweek a few years back about the re-emergence of Vietnam, I'd be inclined to trust you.  Even if you don't post a link because they require a paid subscription to access their archives, at least it is a source than can be fact-checked.  If you say you read it in a Penthouse forum, well, I'd question the trustworthiness of the source.

Since you qualified it that you were talking about single adult Vietnamese women, from my very limited contact with Vietnamese culture here in the States (I'm with you, it just doesn't match me well either), it makes sense, even without a posted source.    If by chance you remember where you read it, please let us know.  That much at least will help narrow the search parameters rather than us just googling "Vietnam women virgins".  Gawd knows what links that would turn up. 

[Cbear]

This isn't the study I read before but it is a very good read for someone who wants to understand the culture and virginity as an issue there.

http://iussp2005.princeton.edu/download.aspx?submissionId=51310

Take notice of how many woman claim to have sexual encounters, it is less than 4%

[piglett]

I would bet that almost 100% of the Vietnamese ladies who haven't had sex yet are virgins

[creeper1]

Ha ha I have to laugh when someone mentioned Filipinas as being more likely to be virgins. Sure they are catholic and feel guillty after doing it but none the less they do do it. They sure come under intense pressure from their bfs to give it up and usually they cave in.
I really think it's very rare for a girl in her twenties to be untouched there.

The areas outside of U.S. military bases here in Korea are FULL of Filipinas working in bars. They are called juicy girls. Honestly there are hundreds of them here. And those young soldiers are as horny as hell. You get the very odd Russian woman and absolutely no Thai, Vietnamese etc

Here in Korea the girls seem innocent. They seem shy etc but it's just a front. I know many guys here going all the way after only brief dating periods.

Heck one night stands are common in the student area of Seoul.

From what I hear though Vietnam is one of the more conservative societies.

If you want to share a room with her (and are unmarried) you must book 2 rooms so as to give the illlusion that you are seperate.

See here. http://www.saigonesl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=874

However it's certainly no paradise of dating either.

http://www.saigonesl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=384&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

I think the advice to think with your brain and not your dick is a good one. However that is easier said than done.

[Dave H]

Ha ha I have to laugh when someone mentioned Filipinas as being more likely to be virgins. Sure they are catholic and feel guillty after doing it but none the less they do do it. They sure come under intense pressure from their bfs to give it up and usually they cave in.
I really think it's very rare for a girl in her twenties to be untouched there.

Well creeper,

Nice try...Fortunately, there are still a few people who are intelligent enough to know the difference between a bargirl/ho and the average lady. I agree it is important to think with your brain...especially when you categorize an entire country and culture! Most of the unmarried Filipinas that I personally know are virgins, even into their 30's and well beyond. But then again, I live here, 550 miles from the former US military bases and bars...and don't have a brain clouded by alcohol. You may have to get out of Angeles or Olongapo bars if you want to meet virgins or "nice" ladies in the Philippines! It is amazing how so many guys judge all Filipinas by the few ho's they've met (or married) in various bars or heard about from military friends who did R&R in the bars surrounding military bases! I have several friends who banged Korean ho's during the Korean War and while taking R&R in Korea during the Vietnam War. It would be hard to top some of the stories that they told me! Have you ever heard about the German ho's around foreign military bases in Germany, there are plenty of ho's around bases in the US and on and on... All BULL CRAP when it comes to labeling the majority of the women in a particular country.

I never thought that I would quote a feminist, but even this one supports my claim that ho's are not limited to any racial group or only women from third world countries. Believe or not, there are even male prostitutes.  

Bananas, beaches and bases Making Feminist Sense of International Politics By Cynthia H. Enloe

"Or it may be that prostitution - as distinct from white American servicemen having white British 'girlfriends' - is politically visable only when most of the foreign soldiers and the local women they date are from different racial groups. It would be surprising if a military base in Massachusetts, Belfast, Ramstein, or Berlin were any less sexually constructed than bases in Belize, Honduras, or Guam."

Dave