Where do I start?

[FriskyDingo]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me where I should begin if I was interested in finding a wife in a foreign country like the PI?  I speak no foreign languages, and I have heard the women speak English there and make good wives (mostly) so I thought that might be a good place to start.

How would I go about meeting women once I got there? Just walk up to attractive women and smile and say hello?

What city (or cities) should I go to? I like to scuba dive, see touristy stuff, and don't want to get kidnapped if that effects your recomendation!

I am not big on meeting women through on-line chat rooms.  The chemistry seldom seems to be there when I finally meet them in person.

[GatoAzul]

 and don't want to get kidnapped if that effects your recomendation!

Well, stay in your country if you are worried about getting kidnapped 

[Ray]

Dingo,

The easiest and recommended way to make your first trip is to make contact with one or more ladies that you would be interested in meeting before you go. That way you have someone to meet you on arrival, show you around, and help keep you from getting into trouble. A lot of us met ladies through recommendations/introductions from Filipino friends and co-workers.

But if you’re a true adventurous type, and have no desire to communicate with ladies before you go, for your first trip I would try to sign up with some kind of a tour group or dive center that can provide transportation from the airport and a safe place to use for a base of operations.

If you just want to drink, party, and have a good time, you could try Angeles City. There are several hotels that cater to foreign men and they can pick you up at the airport.

If you’re serious about finding a decent wife, then you’re going to have to do some serious preparation. English will get you by in most all cases, but there are a lot of dangers that you need to be aware of if you are traveling alone.

Walking up to a nice looking lady, smiling, and saying hello is a workable option and some guys have had success with that method. If you wish to do it that way, I would try to stay close to either Manila, Subic, or Cebu City for your first trip. The ladies in the largest cities are going to be more open to that kind of approach than they would be in the smaller towns and provinces.

There are plenty of tourist attractions in Cebu, Subic, and Manila, some very good nearby dive sites and dive centers, and plenty of friendly women to meet.

You can get a lot of help from the staff in the major hotels and the rates are very reasonable.

Start by searching on-line sites for tour packages, organized dive trips, and resort/hotel deals to see if anything catches your interest.

Try a search for Lonely Planet Philippines. They have excellent travel guides with lots of valuable tips.

Ray
 

[Stagga]

Hey FriskyDingo

Check this out...

http://www.siargaodivers.com/index.htm

Don't worry about kidnappers  before u leave in your country.
your government give you the link tell you where the danger zone are. few people been kidnapped because they are hard headed lol..

Example: the TV Journalist/Newscaster and the Red Cross People. the military give them a warning
"Danger Zone" military offers to give them back up, they declined... they don't listen look what happen..


i know your not a big fan meeting woman online. but just try it.
it would be better if you know someone from there.

Lang    

[Jeff S]

Welcome here too. Good luck, and feel free to ask anything about this process that's unclear or  you'd like to know more about.

The best place to start is to read 10 years worth of archives right here on this site. You'll learn more in a week that way than in several years of making the same mistakes others have made using the trial and error method.

- Jeff

[piglett]

Well, stay in your country if you are worried about getting kidnapped 

Try to stay out of Columbia if you can
It is my understanding that Americans that go there too many times
can develop brain rot & then they start making stupid statements

Oooh sorry gato not talking about you

[Bear]

Can anyone tell me where I should begin if I was interested in finding a wife in a foreign country like the PI?  I speak no foreign languages, and I have heard the women speak English there and make good wives (mostly) so I thought that might be a good place to start.

A lot of here agree with that!

How would I go about meeting women once I got there? Just walk up to attractive women and smile and say hello?

Actually there was a guy here a few years back who did exactly that.  He went to the R.P. and traveled around the country till he saw the girl he wanted then he introduced himself and courted her , married and brought her to the states.  Their divorced now.

What city (or cities) should I go to? I like to scuba dive, see touristy stuff, and don't want to get kidnapped if that effects your recomendation!

It can happen but if you listen to what others have done you should be pretty safe.  Its actually been a while since I've heard of any kidnappings but I don't stay up on the news from there.

I am not big on meeting women through on-line chat rooms.  The chemistry seldom seems to be there when I finally meet them in person.

I strongly suggest you sit down and figure out why your on this path and develop some questions fro the ladies.  Know what you're looking for and have some sort of plan.  These girls are looking for you so you have to be savvy and ask questions that don't revel your position on the subject till you know theirs.  I think the path you want to travel is a hard one because it puts decisions on a more immediate nature, whereas the chat rooms give you time to check things out and think things through.  Chemistry is one thing but being successfully married is the goal.

How about some background and to what led you here and on this path?

The Bear Family

[Stagga]

He went to the R.P. and traveled around the country till he saw the girl he wanted then he introduced himself and courted her , married and brought her to the states.  Their divorced now.
The Bear Family

Wow Kuya Bear 

better to know someone before going lol..

Lang

[GatoAzul]

 Chemistry is one thing but being successfully married is the goal.

Good quote!  Too many men are looking for 'chemistry' without realising how their relationships will work!

[Romello]

There is a lot of good information here on this site.  First start is to look at yourself.

What is it you really hope to accomplish?

Traveling there would not be my first bet.  If you go where you don't know, you'll find what you don't want.

Pace yourself and join a introduction website.  Get to know a few before you go.  Know the island and the people and read as much of the blogs as you can.  As it was posted earlier, within a few days or weeks you will know much, much more.

[piglett]

I became a member of filipinaheart & that worked well for me.
within 24 hours i had more than 10 ladies that wanted to talk to me.

I will give you the same advice that i received from the members here.
You need a good profile!
...
this is what i wrote about myself

I am a kind ,honest, intelligent, & very faithfull I am looking for my future bride I am 39 years old & have never married & i don't have any children. I own my own house, & i am a cook when i find the rite lady to be my wife i will love & protect her until i take my last breath
...
& this is what i wrote about the lady that i was looking for

A young man goes to a wise man to ask if he should marry, the wise man replies If she was been with another then she will only be 1/2 yours. If she has had another mans child then she will never be yours at all But if she has been with no one then she will be yours forever. I am looking for a lady who is family oriented, intelligent, Honest , loving, caring, & sweet. a lady that will stand at my side through the good times & the bad. A lady that will love me as much as i love her
 

yes i found my share of bar girls & scammers asking for $$$
but i also found some very nice ladies
if you never try you are bound to not find what you are looking for
if you do try you mite just find a Mrs. Dingo out there
what do you have to loose ?
a couple of bucks for a membership & some time at your computer
that is all it takes to get started

piglett

[Stagga]

It doesn't matter which site you going to sign up,
keep it real. straight to the point say what you want and don't!

Be aware about scammers.

The guy's being scammed are stupid i guess!!!  ( no harm...just my opinion)   

know her well then meet her in person.
 ( felt the power of love )
after that i understand if you fall out money from your pocket! 

 

[Dave H]

Hi FriskyDingo,

You found the best place to start! Welcome to P-L!

Dave

[bcc_1_2]

Try to stay out of Columbia if you can

Especially Vancouver... its is a VERY dangerous place. 

[masonb]

Hey FD,

First off I'm a huge fan of that show Frisky Dingo, on adult swim.  I'm assuming you feel the same.

My advice would be to check out either a Romance tour or a personal introductions company.  Typically it works just like a travel agency except when you get there you are introduced to as many beautiful foreign women that you could possibly want to meet, increasing your chances of finding that special someone.  A foreign Affair is the company I've been doing it through.  They hold large socials in foreign countries as well as individual introductions and I have found they have the best reputation in the industry.  Their service is amazing.  From the time you arrive in the city of your choice they meet you at the airport and help you every step of the way.

I have only gone on group tours but they cater to people who want to have it more personalized to them only.  I went to Odessa, Ukraine once and I'm planning on going to Peru this October.  In Odessa I can honestly say I had the time of my life. 

Whatever you do I would follow the 10 commandments listed on the left hand side of this website as it is great advice.

I would also recommend being realistic with what your looking for in a woman.  I've noticed a trend of people who get scammed and it seems the majority are men who are either looking for a sex slave, or they are just too dumb to notice when a woman is obviously a gold digger.
I hope this answers your question to an extent.  AFA tours in Latin America, the Former Soviet Union, and Asia.

[masonb]

Another recommendation would be to only date women within at least 15 years of you.  I could be wrong and would be happy to know if anyone disagrees but I find it hard to believe some men who are in their 50's try and meet a 21 year old with good intentions.  I personally think a 21 year old is a 21 year old regardless of where they are from.


As far as correspondence goes others I'm sure will disagree but I personally think its a huge waste of time and money.  Maybe others have had better experiences with it but I just think if you focus on a handful of girls that you have written letters to your not only cutting yourself short but you are opening yourself up to a world of let down. 

If you have the finances I suggest going on a tour, meeting women in person, and then once you leave correspond with women you have made a real connection with face to face.  I think this would eliminate a lot of the issues arising from traveling all the way across the world to meet one woman just to be severely dissappointed.

Don't believe me?  Read some of the horror stories that guys have posted about traveling just to meet one woman that they were so certain things would work out.  I'm sure it works out sometimes but I'm betting just based off of what I've read already that it typically ends in failure.

Why trial and error it?

[Ray]

Mason,

Suggesting that a guy take an organized tour to meet a wife in the Philippines is a stupid idea. Introduction services are illegal in the Philippines and anyone claiming to be knowledgeable in foreign dating should know that.

Your advice against correspondence is also dumb.

You sound like a tour salesman...

Ray

[jm21-2]

Going around and flirting/dating with a ton of girls is probably not the best idea in most Asian countries. You would look like a player/butterfly/not serious/disloyal which is not what a decent girl is looking for.

[masonb]

(Mason,

Suggesting that a guy take an organized tour to meet a wife in the Philippines is a stupid idea. Introduction services are illegal in the Philippines and anyone claiming to be knowledgeable in foreign dating should know that.

Your advice against correspondence is also dumb.

You sound like a tour salesman...

Ray)


I couldn't figure out how to quote this so I just copied and pasted it.

I know for a fact that group tours are not illegal in the Philipines so I don't know where your getting your facts from but your misinformed. 

If you don't mind me asking, why do you consider group tours to be dumb?  I noticed that a lot of people who post here agree with you and I'm curious to know why?  Doesn't it make more sense to meet as many women as you can or want to instead of corresponding with four or five and then going to visit?

As far as correspondence goes I personally think its a waste of time and money to try and set something up that way when you can date some women get to know them in person, and then start corresponding.  It just seems like it would be a smarter way of deciding what women you actually have a connection with.

With all do respect Ray I'm not a tour salesman, I appreciate your opinion and if you could give me some reasons why you feel that way I would like to know.

-Mason-

[Capstone]

I know for a fact that group tours are not illegal in the Philipines so I don't know where your getting your facts from but your misinformed. 

Sorry but Ray does not what he is talking about:

Republic Act No. 6955

An Act to declare unlawful the practice of matching Filipino Women for Marriage to foreign Nationals on a Mail Order Basis and Other Similar Practices, Including The Advertisement, Publication, Printing, or Distribution of Brochures, Fliers and Other Propaganda Materials in Furtherance Thereof and Providing Penalty Therefore

SECTION 1. It is the policy of the State to ensure and guarantee the enjoyment of the people of a decent standard of living. Towards this end, the State shall take measures to protect Filipino women from being exploited in utter disregard of human dignity in their pursuit of economic upliftment.

SECTION 2. Pursuant thereto, it is hereby declared unlawful:

(a) For a person, natural or juridical, association, club or any other entity to commit, directly or indirectly, any of the following acts:

(1) To establish or carry on a business which has for its purpose the matching of Filipino women for marriage to foreign nationals either on a mail-order basis or through personal introduction;

It certainly sounds like group introduction tours fits that description.

With all do respect Ray I'm not a tour salesman, I appreciate your opinion and if you could give me some reasons why you feel that way I would like to know.

Then please tell us how you are affiliated with WWDL/AFA if it is not in a tour salesman capacity?? Sorry but we are not buying what your are selling.

[jm21-2]

I can't speak for other Asian countries as much, but if you tried to do what you suggest in China I can almost guarantee you that you will lose most if not all of the good girls. You could get away with going on a date with a few different girls if you kept things discreet, but corresponding with multiple girls after having dated them? Hell no. You would be expected to make a decision. No decent girl is going to go out with a guy who is dating multiple girls, and yes it is extremely likely they will view corresponding, especially after meeting in person and dating, as dating. Corresponding with 4 girls for a lengthy period before going there and dating all of them would also get you a black mark.

Now the idea of meeting a bunch of girls at a party...maybe you can meet some incredibly desperate girls that way, or gold diggers, or card sharks. Certainly in China it would likely be considered humiliating for a decent girl to go to a party and compete for the attention of some guys.

[masonb]

"Then please tell us how you are affiliated with WWDL/AFA if it is not in a tour salesman capacity?? Sorry but we are not buying what your are selling"

I am the front desk for AFA.  I personally am not trying to sell anything, and actually I'm posting on here to get informed about this industry by a third party, hence my questions regarding why people are against group tours.  All I know is why they are benificial so I would like to know why so many of you feel differently.  I will be the first to admit that I don't know everything there is to know about this industry but I have done research and I have been on a group tour.  With that being said my intentions are to get more informed by a source outside of the company I work for. 

  Please don't mistake my initial post as a sales tactic.  In my experience this is what works best for people.  I've read "foreign bride 101" by Bud Patterson as well as "A Guide to international dating" by Mark Davis and both books tend to lean more towards going on group tours or personal introductions before getting too hung up on correspondence although they do say that for some people correspondence can be beneficial. 

To my understanding there are many ways to go about finding a foreign wife.  What I know is what I've posted.  If you disagree, again please tell me WHY you disagree. 

Finally, If personal introductions and group tours are illegal in the Philipines then how is it that AFA is able to hold tours in Davao and Cebu on a regular basis?

[masonb]

asd

[Capstone]

Finally, If personal introductions and group tours are illegal in the Philipines then how is it that AFA is able to hold tours in Davao and Cebu on a regular basis?

Yes, AFA may indeed hold introduction tours to the PR but that does not make it legal. The Republic Act No. 6955 which was cited above clearly states that such activities are illegal so if one chooses to operate/join such a tour then they are opening themselves up to possible legal ramifications in a foreign country.

BTW - if your company is holding tours and introductions in the Philippines and you are recommending them, then you should at least learn how to spell the name of the country correctly.

[masonb]

I'll make sure to use spell check next time.  Why the hostility?  Is it really necessary to be rude? 

Just out of curiousity where did you get the info on that act?  I'd like to check that out further so I can see either why or how we can do it if it is illegal.  AFA is pretty good about covering all the angles so I want to make sure they know about this.