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WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« on: April 14, 2009, 09:54:44 AM »
Gentlemen (& Ladies):

Several months ago, I bumped into a friend who is a native of Barbados but lives in Philadelphia. He began to express discontent with the ladies in his city because he likes to travel back and forth to Barbados. He expressed that he seems to meet women who don't have a passport. NOW, he said, the first question I ask women is "DO YOU HAVE A PASSPORT???"

A light bulb went off in my head! One of the things that I am SEEKING is a woman who is (read carefully!) WLLING to make the SACRIFICES necessary (with my help)
to visit me in the United States. Naturally, I have found that this is a great way to ELICIT (draw or bring out; evoke) a "Red Flag." I tried it and it worked. Two women that I was corresponding with had no intentions to TRAVEL.

Please share YOUR "Red Flags" in this topic. They can be Red Flags that you "ELICIT" or
Red Flags that you "DISCOVER."

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 10:27:16 AM »
Gentlemen (& Ladies):

Several months ago, I bumped into a friend who is a native of Barbados but lives in Philadelphia. He began to express discontent with the ladies in his city because he likes to travel back and forth to Barbados. He expressed that he seems to meet women who don't have a passport. NOW, he said, the first question I ask women is "DO YOU HAVE A PASSPORT???"

A light bulb went off in my head! One of the things that I am SEEKING is a woman who is (read carefully!) WLLING to make the SACRIFICES necessary (with my help)
to visit me in the United States. Naturally, I have found that this is a great way to ELICIT (draw or bring out; evoke) a "Red Flag." I tried it and it worked. Two women that I was corresponding with had no intentions to TRAVEL.

Please share YOUR "Red Flags" in this topic. They can be Red Flags that you "ELICIT" or
Red Flags that you "DISCOVER."

-King Dphax
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Since you are an Author promoting your book I think you should request to be a commercial member. Actually I think once Admin of PL realises you are advertising your book here you will be made a commercial member.

A extremely high percentage of women from Colombia or other SA countries will not qualify for a US or Canadian Visa to visit North America if they have a Passport or not.

The chances of a single beautiful Latina woman has of getting a travel visa are slim to none and that is not even taking in the thought can she afford to travel to the USA.

Throw your idea out the window because if she applies for a travel visa and mentions she is going to visit a man she will not get a visa. If she does not mention she is going to visit a man and happens to get a visa and you get married she will not get a marriage visa because she lied that she was not visiting you.. You want to stay away from VISA fraud.

Your idea has little merit unless you meet an extremely rich Latina with multiple US or Canada Travel entry visa. Even then she can be turned away at the border if she says she is coming to meet a boyfriend.

You should stick around here and real the archives and try to learn something and pay attention to some of the other senior members.

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 10:47:14 AM »
Since you are an Author promoting your book I think you should request to be a commercial member. Actually I think once Admin of PL realises you are advertising your book here you will be made a commercial member.

A extremely high percentage of women from Colombia or other SA countries will not qualify for a US or Canadian Visa to visit North America if they have a Passport or not.

The chances of a single beautiful Latina woman has of getting a travel visa are slim to none and that is not even taking in the thought can she afford to travel to the USA.

Throw your idea out the window because if she applies for a travel visa and mentions she is going to visit a man she will not get a visa. If she does not mention she is going to visit a man and happens to get a visa and you get married she will not get a marriage visa because she lied that she was not visiting you.. You want to stay away from VISA fraud.

Your idea has little merit unless you meet an extremely rich Latina with multiple US or Canada Travel entry visa. Even then she can be turned away at the border if she says she is coming to meet a boyfriend.

You should stick around here and real the archives and try to learn something and pay attention to some of the other senior members.

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   Not to sound negative but I think he is just trying to write another book and he is doing his research here by getting the answers for his questions from us. All the information he wants is in the archives but he will not read it. Instead he tries to keep a tight control of the info flowing in responce to his post. I wonder if this is not a poster we had before named Aaaron.




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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 11:24:46 AM »
As the OP values positive contributions, I would say this is a great idea. However I would recommend him to turn to RW. There are many who are willing to travel to the USA, providing he sends them the money for tickets and visa.
Some might get in to trouble or accidents along the way, but if he just keeps on paying for the ticket and visa and waiting at the airport some day he might see a woman appear.  ;D

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 01:19:02 PM »

Great idea Shadow  ;D ;D

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 01:27:48 PM »
WLLING to make the SACRIFICES necessary (with my help)
to visit me in the United States. Naturally, I have found that this is a great way to ELICIT (draw or bring out; evoke) a "Red Flag." I tried it and it worked. Two women that I was corresponding with had no intentions to TRAVEL.
You’re “strategies” seem to be very weak and off target as I pointed out with the first two you presented.

Most women like to travel and would do what they could on their end to travel. Any woman who does not want to travel to meet you is no a “red flag” but a rejection.
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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 04:30:33 PM »
Gentlemen (& Ladies):

Several months ago, I bumped into a friend who is a native of Barbados but lives in Philadelphia. He began to express discontent with the ladies in his city because he likes to travel back and forth to Barbados. He expressed that he seems to meet women who don't have a passport. NOW, he said, the first question I ask women is "DO YOU HAVE A PASSPORT???"

A light bulb went off in my head! One of the things that I am SEEKING is a woman who is (read carefully!) WLLING to make the SACRIFICES necessary (with my help)
to visit me in the United States. Naturally, I have found that this is a great way to ELICIT (draw or bring out; evoke) a "Red Flag." I tried it and it worked. Two women that I was corresponding with had no intentions to TRAVEL.

Please share YOUR "Red Flags" in this topic. They can be Red Flags that you "ELICIT" or
Red Flags that you "DISCOVER."

-King Dphax
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  While I agree it is a good idea to find out if the woman intends to leave her country I do not recommend playing games to "elicit" red flags.If red flags are there you should be able to see them without trying to "elicit" them. Also, games usually backfire. IMHO, if you give a woman "tasks" to do for you, you will probably come across as an arrogant jerk thats just looking for a maid.
   As far as a woman having a passport and being eager to travel, I don't see how the opposite would be a sign of anything bad.


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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 05:02:22 PM »
Could one red flag be someone that feels the need to use a dictionary to define a word to individuals that speak the same language?  Or are these red flags only ones that are created/coerced from women?  Also, just my two cents here, but I would think that a number of women find it difficult to travel extensively.  Therefore, a passport would not be on their top list of things necessary.  Again, just a thought.
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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 05:25:36 PM »
For DAS, the perfect Colombian female candidate for a tourist travel visa to the US or Canada,  is a mature woman,wtih assets, owning an apartment or a casa or a business or both, with family in Colombia and a need to return to Colombia.

A young woman, withput property, etc. will in all probabiñity be denied by Colombia for travel to the US or Canada.

So, your assumed red flag is useless.

But here are some good preliminary ones.

1. She wont introduce you to her family
2. She males cellular calls in the bathroom with the door closed.
3. She averages one reschedule for every 1 to 2 dates.
4. She wont kiss you on the lips, even after 3 dates.

   




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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 05:33:55 PM »
It's easy for a Colombian woman to get a passport. They don't cost much and the DAS will give you one the same day you apply. That isn't the issue. The issue is getting a visa to a foreign country. Even Mexico will not easily give a Colombian a tourist visa. The only Colombians with tourist visas are in the upper middle and upper classes and for the most part, those women are not interested in gringos.

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 07:33:13 PM »
I agree with Jamie and think that women who aren't interested in flitting around the world might just make better wives than those who are willing. I agree with Shadow too - plenty of FSU women willing to get a visa and hop on a plane if you send them the $$. Nigeria and Ghana, too!

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 08:43:31 PM »
  You can test them as much as you want but no matter what you do until you go visit them you will really have no ideal what they are gonna be like. Trying to force a red flag is a big waste of time, why not just give up now and save your cash. I think it shows that Phax has not been reading the old post because he would know that very few woman will get a visa to come here from Colombia. My mother in law who owns a tone of land and has kids in Barranquilla could not get one.

   You are not going to force a red flag unless the purpose is to dump the girl so why bother testing them from here. You can post as much as you want about testing them but try reading the old post. I know it will take some time but if you do not want to put the effort into it then don't try get anyone to agree with you.

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 11:27:27 AM »
  While I agree it is a good idea to find out if the woman intends to leave her country I do not recommend playing games to "elicit" red flags.If red flags are there you should be able to see them without trying to "elicit" them.
I concur.  The whole point of a red flag is that it is obvious to any observer.  But any woman, even a good woman, if you back her into a corner with impossible tasks or difficult requests will instead give you a red card (to switch metaphors there).

2. She males cellular calls in the bathroom with the door closed.
Freudian slip?  ;) ;D

Look, I agree with one basic thing that our newbie poster KD is trying to say, that is the philosophy that a woman who is serious about her intents towards you should be willing to put in some effort to satisfy your wants, needs, interests just as you are putting in effort for her.  Making it an actual test is odd, but that is what it will end up being as your relationship evolves and you naturally begin to make requests of each other.  It's part of the learning process.

A lot of us come from a cultural background of chivalry and politeness.  It is part of what makes us desirable as husband material.  And part of that politeness is not to impose, don't bother the other person, take care of things yourself.  As a result, a lot of us have found ourselves in asymmetric relationships where we were putting in all the effort to an unappreciative and unsupportive woman.  So we freed ourselves and sought women of other cultures that, we hoped, are expected to be more supportive of her man.

But to know we have a good woman from that culture (there are good and bad in all), we need to break our habit of being the nice guy, of just going along to please the woman.  When your relationship reaches a comfortable level, don't be afraid to impose, make a request.  See what happens.  And she will make requests, too.  The requests and how the person responds to the request is part of how you learn about each other.  How much are you willing to go out of your way?

For example, when my then penpal was planning to visit me, she made a request.  Typical tour groups from her country to go three places: Disneyland, Universal Studios, and shopping in Beverly Hills.  She didn't want to go to where all the big tour groups go.  She wanted to go someplace else, someplace interesting that the big tour groups ignore.  It was an interesting request that told me something about her: she doesn't follow the herd, a rather unique character trait in group-minded Japan.  I in turn came up with some suggestions that told her something about me.  And she appreciated my recommendations.  That again told me something about her.  And when I moved to Japan and would visit with her, it was my turn to make requests.  I really wanted to do this or go there or see that.  And she *gasp* gladly accommodated my (reasonable and doable) requests!  My opinion mattered!  Wow.  I never experienced that with a white chick before.  That told me a lot about her.  It seemed that I mattered as much to her ash she mattered to me.  Symmetry.  Happiness.

So I keep thinking of the guy mentioned in the other post who requested a baseball cap.  First, you have to reverse the situation and ask: if it was she who said "my niece Vika really loves Minnie Mouse, can you pick up some souvenirs for her when you come to visit", what would the guy have said?  "No way, screw that, I hate Disney!"?  Of course not.  He would say, Sure!  Absolutely!  My pleasure!  And the next day he would have gone out to a mall after work to the Disney Store outlet to pick up some Mouse Ears, plush toys, and character stationary.  Even if he had to drive several towns over to find an outlet store, he probably would have done it if he is a typical American guy.  Hey, he's courting a woman, he wants to please her, right?

So he asks her for a baseball cap from a particular souvenir shop (I'm guessing Hard Rock since there is no Planet Hollywood in Moscow yet).  She dismisses it as pointless.  Well, maybe it was, maybe not.  We don't know.  Maybe in his rumpus room where he keeps his pool table, dry bar, and neon Budweiser sign, he has a hat rack where he keeps a collection of baseball caps he collected from his travels, and gosh darn wouldn't it be cool to have one from Moscow too.  Or maybe he wanted it as a unique gift for his dad who had such a collection.  You just don't know.  But anyway, if she actually lives in Moscow and it is a short trip on the Metro to pick one up, maybe she can do this favor for him so he doesn't have to spend time in-country tracking it down himself when he comes to visit her.  That is his want, his interest, his hobby.  And if she can dismiss it with a "f@#k that, I can't be bothered," without even bothering to find out why he might want it, well, that is useful information to know.  It sounds like they weren't compatible, and they both dodged a bullet there.
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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 02:01:50 AM »
For DAS, the perfect Colombian female candidate for a tourist travel visa to the US or Canada,  is a mature woman,wtih assets, owning an apartment or a casa or a business or both, with family in Colombia and a need to return to Colombia.

A young woman, withput property, etc. will in all probabiñity be denied by Colombia for travel to the US or Canada.

So, your assumed red flag is useless.

But here are some good preliminary ones.

1. She wont introduce you to her family
2. She males cellular calls in the bathroom with the door closed.
3. She averages one reschedule for every 1 to 2 dates.
4. She wont kiss you on the lips, even after 3 dates.


If anyone wants to try this, with a Colombian at least, and does not concider the above good luck dude.... These laws are not only to keep the women from staying in the US it is also to help stop ppl & drug trafficking.

I don't want to start of on bad terms with you KD.  And I would like to add that you are not all that off track. I think it is good to give your girl some homework. But wait till you meet in person and develop some kind of trust. Because as woman any man that comes to me asking for weird things like that without even knowing me is going to be the black listed. If a man I somewhat know asks me to get a passport and try to come visit him in his country the first thought in my head would be " Trata de Blancas"or  "mulas". Which is huge issue in Latin American countries and warnings are carved in women's heads.

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2009, 02:24:21 PM »
Hello Everyone. Now that I have a little time to BURN, I would like to request once agin, any "Red Flags" that you would like to share???? Please share YOUR "Red Flags," please (if any).

I said "if any" because I am not sure just how many people on this discussion website have actually traveled or are traveling. I think I read the first sentence of a few of the replies and did not read any further because they appeared to be negative and criticized MY "Red Flags." Again gentlemen (and ladies), I am trying to LEARN something from YOU (if you have something to share). Please share YOU "Red Flags." If you have none, there are plenty of other discussions that you can participate in. Please forget about my book. If I was doing "research" for another book, I am definitely not learning much on this site.

Again fellas (and ladies), Please share YOUR "Red Flags!"

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 03:27:48 AM »
Red flags (from women):

- contacting you out of the blue telling she 'found' your profile somewhere on the internet.
- falling in love after two letters
- asking for $$$$
- wanting to meet you in an exotic location rather than around her friends and family
- taking you to expensive restaurants or on a shopping spree
- being passive in a way that only answers your actions
- constant hinting about her poverty
- not being willing to walk close to you
- dropping off frequency of contact
- having a luxury life
- being too good to be true

While all of these are red flags, there ave been experiences where a good match was made disregarding one or more of the red flags. However more relations stranded. Also note that a red flag does not always mean the woman is not sincere in searching a life partner. She just may not be searching you.

Red flags (from guys):

- asking for nude/bikini pictures
- asking to send used pantyhoses
- not giving up until being hit on the head
- sending $$$$ or expensive gifts to relative strangers
- expecting sex and reacting hostile if it does not happen
- believing they are God's gift to women
- believing their passport is enough to win any woman's heart

Note that not all of the above is done purposely. Many guys are just clueless.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 03:30:53 AM by Shadow_mas »

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 06:10:49 AM »
KD , your comment 

" I said "if any" because I am not sure just how many people on this discussion website have actually traveled or are traveling "

this is so true , there are many armchair quaterbacks that post here . They think after 1-2 trips that they know it all , or they make one trip get lucky meet a chick run her through the visa process and now they are a pro.

Here you are rewarded by how many post you make and not the time you spend traveling . I would rather here advice from somebody who has been there and done that .   

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 07:35:38 AM »
Sabound

you are correct Whit the fact that you get stars next to your name for how many post you make and not how many trips. But please keep in mind that you have a lot of guy on here that have not been able to travel do to money or personal issues but they still have a lot of good advice. I can tell you that i have made over 18 trips in the last 2 years and i still do not have it down 100% but i can share a lot with the guys on here i have been thought the entire visa process and i have lived with a Colombia women her in the states for almost a year and i am sorry to say thing did not work out. Please do not feel that is some has not made a lot of trip that they do not have good advice or are not worthy of sharing there advice. you have made a lot of great post on here so keep it up and i wish you good luck and if there is any advice that i can share Whit you please ask


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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 05:30:06 PM »
Red flags (from guys):

- asking for nude/bikini pictures
- asking to send used pantyhoses
- not giving up until being hit on the head
- sending $$$$ or expensive gifts to relative strangers
- expecting sex and reacting hostile if it does not happen
- believing they are God's gift to women
- believing their passport is enough to win any woman's heart

Note that not all of the above is done purposely. Many guys are just clueless.

 ;D funny but true shadow :P

I might not be very experienced but I think I can add this one:
- He is "separated"...
  as in, his wife still lives in the same house but he swears they sleep in separate rooms  ::)

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 06:18:44 PM »
KD , your comment 

" I said "if any" because I am not sure just how many people on this discussion website have actually traveled or are traveling "

this is so true , there are many armchair quaterbacks that post here . They think after 1-2 trips that they know it all , or they make one trip get lucky meet a chick run her through the visa process and now they are a pro.

Here you are rewarded by how many post you make and not the time you spend traveling . I would rather here advice from somebody who has been there and done that .   


How many Colombians live in your house? How many times have you been and for how long? How long have you been married? And I guess your Spanish is fluent?

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2009, 07:58:15 PM »
Hello Everyone. Now that I have a little time to BURN, I would like to request once agin, any "Red Flags" that you would like to share???? Please share YOUR "Red Flags," please (if any).

I said "if any" because I am not sure just how many people on this discussion website have actually traveled or are traveling. I think I read the first sentence of a few of the replies and did not read any further because they appeared to be negative and criticized MY "Red Flags." Again gentlemen (and ladies), I am trying to LEARN something from YOU (if you have something to share). Please share YOU "Red Flags." If you have none, there are plenty of other discussions that you can participate in. Please forget about my book. If I was doing "research" for another book, I am definitely not learning much on this site.

Again fellas (and ladies), Please share YOUR "Red Flags!"

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   I read some where that you claimed that you had a Colombian girlfriend at one time. Why do you need us to tell you red flags, I would think you would have plenty to tell us about. How about telling us about your real red flags and not the test you want to put woman through to see if they are not perfect. If you want us to forget about your book the at the end of each post remove "Survival guide for single men"  does that make sense?

  Trips I have made? I have been all over Peru, I have traveled for a month at time in Colombia. I have spent time in Barranquilla, Santa Marta. Do you want to know anymore? Now tell us a little about you?

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Re: WANTED: Red Flags! Red Flags!
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2009, 08:09:38 AM »
hmmmmm red flags ........


OK .. someone that calls himself King and seems rather demanding .....


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