Continuation Conversation for RAYcjs

[KingDphax]

Hello RAYcjs:

As you may know, I am new to this planet. I recently read your thread.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2009 was an important day for me as well! I was returning from my SIXTH trip to Cartagena on that day.

Real fast, let me share one or two of the strategies that I am currently employing:
1. I now TEST the ladies that I date. Before I arrive, I try to give them some kind
of TASK to complete for me. For example, on my upcoming trip, I asked one of the ladies to find an apartment for me in one of THREE areas. She found out that the man who introduced me to her (the uncle of my ex) was trying to find the apartment too and she STOPPED looking. Why? Recently, the uncle found the apartment for me. I wanted HER to find it. This is a RED FLAG for me. I will share another strategy tomorrow.

Finally, Gentlemen! Make these ladies WORK!! Before you arrive each time, they should have completed a TASK for you. If they can't, that should tell you how they FEEL about you. People only put their TIME and/or MONEY into things that they CARE about. Until tomorrow!!

-King Dphax
author, "Survival Guide for Single Men"   

[Shadow_mas]

My wife once had a guy from the USA asking her to buy a baseball cap from an American restaurant in Moscow.
Killed her interest instantly.

Why the lady stopped looking ? Because she contacted the guy and decided he had more time to look.
Red flag ? Yes, from your side, not hers.

[KingDphax]

OK Shadow_mas:

Thanks for your reply, but that went right over my head. Maybe I'm too simple-minded to understand what you mean.

1st: My message is to MEN about the women, NOT the other way around. My thread is deeper than baseball caps. "TIME" is money and money is TIME.

2nd: Why did the lady have to (I asssume you are talking about your "wife") stop "looking" if she knew WHERE the baseball cap was located ("American
restaurant in Moscow")?? She did not have to "LOOK" if she was told WHERE to find the baseball cap, correct???

3rd: If the purchase od a baseball cap "killed her interest" I would HATE to be
married to that lady.

Do more THINKING before replying to my threads, Shadow_Mas. There's a new kid
in town. Who are you anyway?

-King Dphax
author, "Survival Guide for Single Men"   

[KingDphax]

Hello Fellas:

As PROMISED, another strategy for "Red Flags."

As I said yesterday, TASKS should be given to the "ladies of your dreams." When I say tasks, I don't mean the purchase of "BASEBALL CAPS" in Moscow.

Remember, people (women included) only put their TIME and/or money into things that they really want or care about. Of course some people waste money but that's another topic.

Just before one trip last year, I asked a lady to design or prepare a itinerary of things for us to do for one week. This takes time, creative thinking, planning and maybe some phone work. If you are spending your hard-earned money to climb on a plane to go see them, them wine and dine them, the LEAST they can do is PLAN THE itinerary. This strategy may reveal a red flag if the woman failed to do what you asked. Remember, you are a GUEST in her country. You are trying to WOO her and she should be trying to WOW you!

I want to hear some feed-back fellas! More than 70 people have viewed. One wise guy reply.

-King Dphax
author, "Survival Guide for Single Men"     

[Shadow_mas]

OK Shadow_mas:

Thanks for your reply, but that went right over my head. Maybe I'm too simple-minded to understand what you mean.

1st: My message is to MEN about the women, NOT the other way around. My thread is deeper than baseball caps. "TIME" is money and money is TIME.

You presume to know how to find a good woman. If I feel that your advise is not good I react from my knowledge.

2nd: Why did the lady have to (I asssume you are talking about your "wife") stop "looking" if she knew WHERE the baseball cap was located ("American
restaurant in Moscow")?? She did not have to "LOOK" if she was told WHERE to find the baseball cap, correct???

Because she thought it was a waste of TIME to buy an American product for an American.

3rd: If the purchase od a baseball cap "killed her interest" I would HATE to be
married to that lady.

If you feel entitled to send women on pointless tasks, she would not want to have relations with you.

Do more THINKING before replying to my threads, Shadow_Mas. There's a new kid
in town. Who are you anyway?

Interesting for a guy who just registered. I might not have posted a lot, but I am a member longer than you.
And perhaps you should consider the WOMAN's side before posting about what a man should do.

I am your conscience and worst nightmare. And I would never write a book on how to survive single.

[Shadow_mas]

Remember, people (women included) only put their TIME and/or money into things that they really want or care about. Of course some people waste money but that's another topic.

Just before one trip last year, I asked a lady to design or prepare a itinerary of things for us to do for one week. This takes time, creative thinking, planning and maybe some phone work. If you are spending your hard-earned money to climb on a plane to go see them, them wine and dine them, the LEAST they can do is PLAN THE itinerary. This strategy may reveal a red flag if the woman failed to do what you asked. Remember, you are a GUEST in her country. You are trying to WOO her and she should be trying to WOW you!

I agree that if the woman you are meeting is too lazy to even think up on where to take you (except expensive restaurants and ditto shops) she is most likely not interested. But you should give her some input on what you like.
However there is one thing you will hopefully handle in a next post.

You are not going there to get a free tourist guide and hooker. You are going there to meet a possible life partner. This means that it is a lot better to not be shown the tourist traps, but to meet up with her friends and family. It might cause something different as you would be shown when taking a vacation, but it will be much more interesting if she allows you in to her real life.

[william3rd]

Hello Fellas:

As PROMISED, another strategy for "Red Flags."

As I said yesterday, TASKS should be given to the "ladies of your dreams." When I say tasks, I don't mean the purchase of "BASEBALL CAPS" in Moscow.

Remember, people (women included) only put their TIME and/or money into things that they really want or care about. Of course some people waste money but that's another topic.

Just before one trip last year, I asked a lady to design or prepare a itinerary of things for us to do for one week. This takes time, creative thinking, planning and maybe some phone work. If you are spending your hard-earned money to climb on a plane to go see them, them wine and dine them, the LEAST they can do is PLAN THE itinerary. This strategy may reveal a red flag if the woman failed to do what you asked. Remember, you are a GUEST in her country. You are trying to WOO her and she should be trying to WOW you!

I want to hear some feed-back fellas! More than 70 people have viewed. One wise guy reply.

-King Dphax
author, "Survival Guide for Single Men"     

Does this all have something to do with that book you are marketing on eBay?

I dont agree with the "tasking." . .  women that are worth a damn will do it all without prompting. In addition, if the man is truly interested, then he should be learning about the country and decide on things that he wants to see-showing his knowledge and definitely making an impression. . . .

[InnocentVixen]

I think these posts are.... "cute" and he should keep posting  , now stop interrupting guys, let him share his wisdom 

[Alabamaboy!]

I don't know if giving someone "tasks" to carry out is a good way to describe things...kind of makes it seems like you are sending them out on an easter egg hunt.....but I do believe they need to be responsible things and do them without difficulty.

Basically any type of thoughtlessness is a red flag. If your girl knows you are taking the red eye from LA to Barranquilla....after working all day....and when you get there she is all dressed up for you to take her out to Buenavista for shopping...that is thoughtless and is a red flag. If your girl is not writing almost every day...especially if she has a lot of free time.....and I mean writing something substantial.....then she is thoughtless and needs to be weeded out.  Anything like that which does not make sense....or is thoughtless....it is better to dismiss her earlier rather than later.

I have not seen too many rude, thoughtless people all of the sudden turn into sweet, loving, thoughful, caring people. It just does not happen that way. Once you start seeing things like that, it is time to move on. And luckily....there are literally thousands of great women in Latin America for us to meet until we find the right one.

The only regrets I have so far on this journey to find the right woman is that I gave too much time and chances to a couple ladies. And I wish I could have some of that valuable time back. But it was all a learning experience. And was pretty exiting and fun (most of it) all along the way.

At this point, I feel very confident in the ability to clearly see what kind of girl is compatible to me and therefore who would make good "wife material". I think that is very important also...that each of us needs to know who we are, what are our limits, and realize that we are probably not going to change much either. So compatibility is essential. If it is not there at the beginning...you cannot manufacture it or buy it.

[KingDphax]

Two things to say to you Shadow_Mas:

First I would like to say that I knew that I would eventually be BOXING with a "wise guy" or guys on this site.
It's inevitable! Nevertheless, I am game!

#1: An APARTMENT is NOT a "meaningless" task.
#2: An itinerary is NOT a meaningless task.

A relationship is a "partnership" gentlemen. Not an "easter egg hunt." I don't know the level of everyone's education on this site OR the amount of travel people have done, but the learned and wise can appreciate this topic. RULE #1: Try to be GENTLEMEN and contribute POSITIVELY or don't contribute at all. RULE #2: Don't say something ONLINE that you won't say to someone FACE TO FACE. Those are the rules. Let's continue.

P.S., Innocent Vixen, I want to hear YOUR "wisdom" as well, if you have any. Where have you traveled? Any wisdom, advice or Red Flags that I should watch for??

-King Dphax

[KingDphax]

TO MACHINE69:

Thanks for your reply. You always have a lot to share and you always seem to be positive. Your statement (without need for quoting) about "TMIE" hit home with me too.

I wasted A LOT of time with the first lady I met. But then again, I am not sure if the time was "wasted." I have built a great relationship with her Uncle, Aunt and Cousin. They are at the airport when I arrive and the airport when I leave!

Nevertheless, I am happy that it was NOT two ladies like yourself. But I am discovering that I can save some
time by seeing how HARD a woman is willing to WORK for me (when I am not there). This may not work for
people like Shadow-Mas. But it has been saving ME time.

Come on gentleman and ladies (Innocent Vixen). Have any red flags to share?
Thanks again Machine69 

[Capstone]

Finally, Gentlemen! Make these ladies WORK!! Before you arrive each time, they should have completed a TASK for you. If they can't, that should tell you how they FEEL about you. People only put their TIME and/or MONEY into things that they CARE about. Until tomorrow!!

Why would you feel the need to employ such a childish antic as assigning tasks? After all I would hope that the ultimate goal here is to find a spouse, and not a pet.

You've asked for input on red flags - well if I felt the need to test a lady by assigning tasks to her then that would be a big red flag for me. 

[Jeff S]

Two things to say to you Shadow_Mas:

First I would like to say that I knew that I would eventually be BOXING with a "wise guy" or guys on this site.
It's inevitable! Nevertheless, I am game!

#1: An APARTMENT is NOT a "meaningless" task.
#2: An itinerary is NOT a meaningless task.

A relationship is a "partnership" gentlemen. Not an "easter egg hunt." I don't know the level of everyone's education on this site OR the amount of travel people have done, but the learned and wise can appreciate this topic. RULE #1: Try to be GENTLEMEN and contribute POSITIVELY or don't contribute at all. RULE #2: Don't say something ONLINE that you won't say to someone FACE TO FACE. Those are the rules. Let's continue.

P.S., Innocent Vixen, I want to hear YOUR "wisdom" as well, if you have any. Where have you traveled? Any wisdom, advice or Red Flags that I should watch for??

-King Dphax

You know your royal highness, or whatever you wish to be called. There is absolutely no reason to come here to this board with some posters having been here nearly a decade, many happily married, and proclaiming yourself an expert on anything - especially not spouting your rules for our participation. I don't know your level of "education" but it obviously is severely lacking in any kind of people skills at all. Most of us are college graduates, many have advanced degrees, many of use have been to Latin America more than a few times. Many have found wives there, and some live there.

As for IV's "wisdom" she is a Latina living in Latin America and her participation is valued, unlike some of the arrogant "god's gift to women" posters who briefly pass through thinking they're going to learn us hicks how to pick up chicks.

And yes, absolutely, I'd proudly say that to you face-to-face.

[Shadow_mas]

Two things to say to you Shadow_Mas:

First I would like to say that I knew that I would eventually be BOXING with a "wise guy" or guys on this site.
It's inevitable! Nevertheless, I am game!

#1: An APARTMENT is NOT a "meaningless" task.
#2: An itinerary is NOT a meaningless task.

A relationship is a "partnership" gentlemen. Not an "easter egg hunt." I don't know the level of everyone's education on this site OR the amount of travel people have done, but the learned and wise can appreciate this topic. RULE #1: Try to be GENTLEMEN and contribute POSITIVELY or don't contribute at all. RULE #2: Don't say something ONLINE that you won't say to someone FACE TO FACE. Those are the rules. Let's continue.

P.S., Innocent Vixen, I want to hear YOUR "wisdom" as well, if you have any. Where have you traveled? Any wisdom, advice or Red Flags that I should watch for??

-King Dphax

Your Royal Highness,

1. In Internet etiquette using CAPITALS means shouting. Your posts read like someone with Tourette syndrom who can not stop shouting random words.
2. Asking to search for an apartment when asking another person at the same time means one of them will waste their time, most likely the lady. Asking to make an itinery is not needed, unless you are looking for submissive women that will stand on one leg and bark on your command.
 3. Before meeting the first time you have no relationship. Any kind of 'relationship' is imaginary. You have a penpal with possible interest in a relationship. Nothing more.
4. If you feel that contradicting your 'wisdom' is not a postivite contribution, many might feel opposite.
5. I would say this face to face as well. Come and visit me, we have great looking women here.

[william3rd]

Personally, I find reading Dphax a meaningless task. Either researching for a book or trying to promote the book he already has "published." The new one can probably be titled "refugee from relationships: two years of international failures." This is just based on what I have heard so far.

Boxing- phffft! If you keep it up, you will probably be ko'd in a day or so.

I will have to miss the next 12 rounds- cat box needs cleaning. . . .

[texassingledad]

  

[Jamie]

1. I now TEST the ladies that I date. Before I arrive, I try to give them some kind
of TASK to complete for me. For example, on my upcoming trip, I asked one of the ladies to find an apartment for me in one of THREE areas. She found out that the man who introduced me to her (the uncle of my ex) was trying to find the apartment too and she STOPPED looking. Why? Recently, the uncle found the apartment for me. I wanted HER to find it. This is a RED FLAG for me. I will share another strategy tomorrow.

This is a useless strategy. How people behave before and after meeting you can be the opposite. I do not believe one should be serious or have high expectations for a woman until after you meet. This is when the real testing begins. Yes, you can do screening prior to meeting, but testing her to feel how she feels about you prior to meeting is ridiculous. If you are communicating with someone and agree to meet there is nothing wrong with asking her to find you an apartment, but her finding or not finding you one does not carry as much weight as you think. In your particular case I don’t blame the woman for not looking once she found you had someone else doing this. She should have been pissed.

Finally, Gentlemen! Make these ladies WORK!! Before you arrive each time, they should have completed a TASK for you. If they can't, that should tell you how they FEEL about you. People only put their TIME and/or MONEY into things that they CARE about.

You are a little closer to a good strategy here, but it comes after you have met and that is you both casually agree that she is going to an activity for you or her or for the both of you. These would be multiple activities set at different times and requiring different degrees of effort. Then over time look at the results and ask yourself is this acceptable. These activities need to be measurable and within a set time frame. Some general examples, and there are many, can include agreeing to how many new English words she will learn in a month, having her buy something that fits the exact parameters you want when you want it, following a new cooking recipe that you are familiar with, meeting various appointments where there is cost or repercussions for being late... These activities should be everyday stuff you would expect from your partner. Now with some activities you will need others assistance and in all cases very clear communications. The problem for most guys is if they are in love with a woman they will be very forgiving of the excuses the women will give for not doing what they said they would do or when they would do it. Also understand for most guys that patience does not last long whereas the excuses will. While you are wrong that any of this has anything to do with her feelings for you, it does tell you something of her capabilities. The woman can love you very much, yet not function well when it comes to assisting you or her. Or the woman may not like you at all and have an agenda and does assist you with everything.

[Jamie]

Boxing- phffft! If you keep it up, you will probably be ko'd in a day or so. I will have to miss the next 12 rounds- cat box needs cleaning. . . .

With your record, one thing for sure is, you won’t be in the ring. I’ve never seen anyone run faster from challenge than you William. It’s a good thing you’re not allergic to cats as you are to questions or that litter box would never get cleaned.

[singlefather no more]

Hello RAYcjs:

As you may know, I am new to this planet. I recently read your thread.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2009 was an important day for me as well! I was returning from my SIXTH trip to Cartagena on that day.

Real fast, let me share one or two of the strategies that I am currently employing:
1. I now TEST the ladies that I date. Before I arrive, I try to give them some kind
of TASK to complete for me. For example, on my upcoming trip, I asked one of the ladies to find an apartment for me in one of THREE areas. She found out that the man who introduced me to her (the uncle of my ex) was trying to find the apartment too and she STOPPED looking. Why? Recently, the uncle found the apartment for me. I wanted HER to find it. This is a RED FLAG for me. I will share another strategy tomorrow.

Finally, Gentlemen! Make these ladies WORK!! Before you arrive each time, they should have completed a TASK for you. If they can't, that should tell you how they FEEL about you. People only put their TIME and/or MONEY into things that they CARE about. Until tomorrow!!

-King Dphax
author, "Survival Guide for Single Men"   

Hello your Royal Highness ,

Your rambling make no sense and your task idea is nuts .

I was talking with Ray the other day on the phone and we can't understand why you put his name in your thread headline above ?

Please don't type and drink at the same time as you can't convey your thoughts here properly when you do that.. You don't want to get a TUI here " Typing Under Intoxication " ..

Don't worry you will get a Lawyer here if found drinking and typing in a erratic , flaky and worst of all a obtuse manner..

William 111 might be your lawyer if you asked him and you would have to change and clean his cat's litter box for only 64 days straight in lieu of his legal fees..


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[Kiltboy1]

As usual I disagree with you Jamie

Almost every women I went to LA to visit , Including my beautiful wife, did many things for me before I arrived from getting hotel info and pricing, to making dinner reservations and tour excursion reservations in advance for us. In other words, I MADE HER WORK FOR ME ! Absolutely this is a great strategy to see how much the women will do for you once she knows you have a ticket booked and a date set to travel. I advise every man here to do this and if the women is not willing or interested in doing these things for you, dump her lazy arse and find another  because lazy and uninterested now gets quadruple piled on if you end up bringing her back stateside

KB

[william3rd]

Don't worry you will get a Lawyer here if found drinking and typing in a erratic , flaky and worst of all a obtuse manner..

William 111 might be your lawyer if you asked him and you would have to change and clean his cat's litter box for only 64 days straight in lieu of his legal fees..


..

I have a confession to make- I dont own a cat nor do I have a litter box. Ya forced it outta me. I will have to accept the legal fees instead.

[herbrags]

I think kingphax idea is a very good one. I am surprised at the unproductive sniping from the moderators of this site.

[Shadow_mas]

I think kingphax idea is a very good one. I am surprised at the unproductive sniping from the moderators of this site.

Welcome herbrags. I hope you will read around here, and by that you will find out what you can read as well in the responses in this thread (not only by moderators). The thing is that if you want to appear to be a jerk with control issues, take advise from people who write books. If you are searching for a life partner that completes you in all aspects, take advise from married guys and those 'in the business' that have extended knowledge.
Perhaps you would like to make an introduction post to make yourself known better ?

[herbrags]

I like kingdfax idea. I don't think he was being a jerk for bringing this idea up. A good idea can come from anybody, it does not matter if they have been her for minutes or years.  I don't understand the harsh criticism from moderators. His idea don't have to be preapproved. Right? HE will be scared to post if moderator criticise his comments.

 

[texassingledad]

We couldn't get that lucky. I mean him being to scared to post anymore. Take a look at all the other post he has made on the other threads and you'll see why KingDphax is not very well liked in the extremely short time he has been on here.

Good luck,
Les