plan A and plan B found out about each other.

[Jeff S]

That's right, Romello. Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.

[michaelb]

Odd note - I saw a picture of my 'ex' sometime back and Honey was telling me it was her.  I looked and their were four very plain unattractive girls in it.  I said she's not their and Honey pointed her out.  She looked vaguely familiar.  I am in shock that someone I spent 25 years with I couldn't even recognize a few years later!  This was the girl I once compared to Linda Carter?

The Bear Family

I'm shocked too. I mean, I went to my 40th HS reunion this summer and instantly  recognized everybody there (well, except one guy, but I did remember him when we got to talking) and they all recognized me, even remembered my nickname and made me write 'Spook' on my name tag. Hadn't seen most of them them since the 30th, and a few of them literally not since HS. Either you have a poor memory (no offense) or (more likely) 'Time heals all wounds' so consider it a mercy that you've been healed.

[Bear]

Amen to that.  My memory isn't the total recall of my twenties but its not so bad I wouldn't know someone I was with for over 25 years.  I would have thought out spirits would still recognize each other but she and I must be so different now we no longer have anything in common nor are we (well at least me) attracted to the other.

The Bear Family

[creeper1]

Read all 9 pages of this thread and it helped kill about 2 hours. Interesting discussion particularly about Cbear who may marry a girl around the same age as his daughter.

I'm actually living in Asia again. Yet again Korea and probably not the best country for women but for my work it's the best. It's quite common to see Western men and Korean girls but no huge age differences really exist here between the couples.

Younger women do tend to fall in and out of love pretty fast. For me embarrassment would be a big factor as well. THere is a stigma about marrying young South East Asian women. Cbear how do you feel about introducing your girl to your family? Do they know you are searching in the Philippines for a wife?

I think you will be getting yourself into a world of stares and little whispers of "mail order bride" behind your back.

If you are tough enough to deal with it then good luck to you.

Since you lived in the Philippines before, it's a pity you didn't find a wife at that time. I think your position would be much stronger.

[Bear]

...
... how do you feel about introducing your girl to your family? Do they know you are searching in the Philippines for a wife?

My family was a little concern at first but not after they met her.  Got the most problems from my gay sister who was sure I was doing it just to be mean and controlling.

I think you will be getting yourself into a world of stares and little whispers of "mail order bride" behind your back.

In 8+ years I've had 3 rude comments and a few weird winks.  Less than I had with my 'ex' and her 350 lbs.  I actually love the looks people give me when I'm with her.  I just know they're thinking. "What in the world does she see in him?'  Then they probably spend all kinds of hours talking about every topic under the sun - especially when they see us with our cubs which is 99% of the time.  I've even had a few guys come up and ask me what hit me over the head to have three kids at age.  I tell them I had to have my own 'grandkids'!  Love that look!

The Bear Family

[Cbear]

creeper

I'm the kinda guy that doesn't really care what other people think, as long as my family accepts her then it's all good.

Yes, my parents know I am looking in the Philippines. My mother wishes I would have married my PI girlfriend back in 89. Yes, I am sure if I had done that I would still be married.

My mother has seen pictures and video of the new girl and thinks she is cute, the only comment she made that was negative is about her and I having children, she thinks I'm to old. Other than that she is ok with it. My father doesn't care one way or the other.

As for the ex, I really don't care what she says or thinks. I'm sure my children won't like it but they aren't going to like any woman I marry because it isn't their mother.

Besides, none of them will actually meet her for at least 2 and half years, It  shouldn't be such a big shock then.

You say that young women fall in and out of love all the time. Well, there it is again, philippina women are different. In their culture there is no "fun" dating for good girls. She will not be allowed to court someone who isn't marriage material. If the family gives the green light for her to court then it is almost a done deal for a marriage. And any guy not brave enough to ask permission to court her is considered a wimp and not worthy of her.

They are that serious about it. My girls mother is grilling her everyday, she wants to make sure this is what she wants and that I am suitable for her.

I think I am going to get my girl a really nice T-shirt with a big postage stamp on it that she can wear when we go out in public, we might as well go with the flow. LOL

[Bear]

As for the ex, I really don't care what she says or thinks. I'm sure my children won't like it but they aren't going to like any woman I marry because it isn't their mother.

How true!  I thought at first it was working out okay but my oldest proved me wrong and my son hates all women anyway?

I think I am going to get my girl a really nice T-shirt with a big postage stamp on it that she can wear when we go out in public, we might as well go with the flow. LOL

Great idea!  I'm getting one this weekend!

The Bear Family

[bcc_1_2]

I'm actually living in Asia again. Yet again Korea and probably not the best country for women but for my work it's the best. It's quite common to see Western men and Korean girls but no huge age differences really exist here between the couples.

Younger women do tend to fall in and out of love pretty fast.

Korea huh, I hear the same. Great for work... culture sucks. I also heard that international dating wasn't very encouraged. Like its a terrible thing... until you meet some american that you like

Anyways... haven't you learned... the philippines now defy biology as well. I grant them the vast differences in culture. But 18 is 18. When they come to the USA they all change at least a little. In fact we want them to change. One example would be a language barrier if it exists. We want her to learn english. You have to assimilate (at least on some level) with society if you want employment or to do basic things. So these young girls are going to change a lot.

I'm 25 and I stay away from the teens. Sounds like you do too.

[piglett]

Cbear how do you feel about introducing your girl to your family? Do they know you are searching in the Philippines for a wife?
I think you will be getting yourself into a world of stares and little whispers of "mail order bride" behind your back.

I say let them stare & wisper all they want
I think most of the men will be thinking i wish i has an atractive young wife like that instead the "old ball & chain"

piglett

[Heruamen]

good point piglett they will stare then proceed to turn green with envy hehehe

[Cbear]

bcc.

what are you talking about language barriers for, most filipina speak fluent english. My girl is in nursing school and it is assumed they are going abroad when they graduate so the school offers courses in practical American english. My girl is very fluent and understands a lot of the slang I use as well as catch phrases.

I'm not corresponding with an 18 year old high school chick, this is one driven lady. She has big goals is going after them. Her grades are very high and she will have no problem passing her boards. (very hard for most nursing students to do) she sometimes stays awake for 2 days straight doing assignments that most of the students just half ass or give up on. She is an amazing person. I acually think if you talked with her you would like her. Fat chance though, I wouldn't let her. LOL

I have talked to a lot of 18 to 21 year old girls who were very immature, just like you suggest. But all people are different and must be judged on their own merits.

Is she going to change when she gets here, sure, but I don't think her core values will.

Ok guys, Piglett and Heruamen, I agree with you, I recently saw a young filipina with an older (50's) overweight guy, she was so loving to him. Even the chinese girls at the restaurant looked to be jealous, not of him, but of her. I was jealous too. LOL

[piglett]

BCC

wow i am having so many young beautiful 18 year old pinay girls want to talk to me it is amazing
I have to praise GOD for doing such a good job making these lovely ladies


piglett

Oohhhhh no i think BCC is going to require medical care
he will probably blow a gasket when he reads an email that has the words "god" & "18 year old girls" in it
just take deep breaths BCC it will all be OK

just messing with you dude
good luck with your search

[Heruamen]

hahahahahhahahah piglett you are a riot that was too funny  i am glad that you are enjoying yourself. perhaps jcc should lighten up and have fun too.  Oh well i shall take a nap now my girl will be getting off work soon and she knows that i dont work tommorow so it is going to be an all nighter for me.  She will chat all night and all morning if i dont put limits

[piglett]

I do like to sometimes have a good time
just hope i don't offend anyone too much

piglett

[Cbear]

Does anybody want to know why I chose plan A over plan B. when this all hit the fan?

well I'm gonna tell you anyway.

I told both girls that they were the one I wanted and asked them how I should break it off with the other girl.

Plan B was the first I talked to about it and she said for me to just stop writing her and block her from my ym and to never talk to her again from that moment on. Don't even tell her why or what happened, just ignore her.

Ok, when it was plan A's turn she said that I should try and break it off slowly with plan B so as not to hurt her so bad. She even suggested that maybe I could find a friend of mine to hook her up with so she wouldn't hurt so bad and she wanted me to remain friends with plan B because I said she was a nice girl. She honestly felt bad and had compassion for the other girl.

This is why I chose plan A over plan B. Plan A has a real heart and real compassion. Plan B didn't care how bad plan A hurt as long as she got me. So I felt plan A was the better choice. And now I know she was the right choice. She is the nicest sweetest lady I have ever met.

[bcc_1_2]

BCC

wow i am having so many young beautiful 18 year old pinay girls want to talk to me it is amazing
I have to praise GOD for doing such a good job making these lovely ladies


piglett

Oohhhhh no i think BCC is going to require medical care
he will probably blow a gasket when he reads an email that has the words "god" & "18 year old girls" in it
just take deep breaths BCC it will all be OK

just messing with you dude
good luck with your search

I've been to Europe, Central & South American. A long time ago I went to Hong Kong. I know people (worked with them or went to school with them) from Mexico, Eastern Europe, China, and an acquaintance from the Philippines. The word god or 18 year old girl doesn't bother me. I just recognize there is no finite answer. The absoluteness of an atheist is just as wrong to me as a religious person. My only real interest in religion is to keep it out of policy and decisions because it can... and it has be used to justify anything. As far as I'm concerned you may pray or talk to someone/thing... but if anyone is listening is the open question. So hopefully that clarifies my position... it is simply... I don't know.

As to the teenage issue. Based on my travels and everyone I know from various parts of the world they all seem to concur. An 18 year old girl is an 18 year old girl. They certainly grow up in different cultures and all are their own unique persons... but they are still teenage girls.

I do believe many teenage girls from many countries around the world would be interested in corresponding with Cbear, piglett, heruamen, and many guys on here. It has nothing to do with if I think you can attract them. It has nothing to do with me not wanting the competition... because if you are dating teens... then you are not competing with me.

Teens are going to change a lot naturally. Take them across the pacific and that will go into hyperdrive. I went to a very diverse high school and boys and girls that came over from another country in their teens changed a lot... and changed fast.

Of course I wish you all luck as well. And having browsed the various asian dating sites I know there are a lot of girls 4 or 5 years older that are absolutely stunning. At least worth a thought... but then you'd be competing with me. So watch out. 

[Heruamen]

bcc as i said in one of my previous posts which mabye you forgot.  I am not looking for an 18 yr old.  My age range was 21-31.  I even mentioned in the post that most 18 yrs old on cherry just look like they are still in the silly stage.  What i did say was that i would not close my mind to the possibility if i met one who carried herself like a woman.  I dont knock anyone else who wants that like you seem to do.  I dont know why this bothers you so much.   So please do not put my name in the mix because my girl is 24 yrs old.  My former plan B is 23 and the former plan c is 27.  i was talking to former plan b in a friendship manner and jokingly asked her was  she a virgin.  She laughed and said at my age (23)what do you think?  Then she told me that is was rare to find a virgin even at 18.   So if a man wants a virgin for a wife his best bet is to look at someone who is 18 and still at home.
    There is something very special about having a woman who has never been with somone before, however it is not a deal breaker for me but it would be nice.

[Bear]

Ya know bcc.  Not one guy here has said a thing about 18 y.o. but you.  One guy says his girl is 19 and will probably be 21 before they get married.  Mine was 19 when we met and 21 when we got married and its worked out awesomely.  Several other guys have posted similar successes!  Yet you are fixated on 18.  18, 18 18 is all you post.  It isn't possible for a young girl and an older guy to be married successfully - yet I can honestly say I know of at least a hundred Fil-Am marriages that have.  You just can't quit putting the American/European/Latin spin on it when the those cultures means almost nothing (if that much) to Asians.  Its a preference thing and their culture to be good wives/mates.  It's why I went there and I am glad I did.  And the 'opinions' you have for not doing it hasn't changed a single thing for all of us who have.

You keep being the immature Kano who knows it all and won't listen or learn trying to belittle and dis something you completely refuse to listen to or try to understand.

Get a life.

The Bear Family

[bcc_1_2]

bcc as i said in one of my previous posts which mabye you forgot.  I am not looking for an 18 yr old.  My age range was 21-31. 

I'm sure if you started drinking the Kool Aid your cousin would set you straight. Not accusing anyone of dating 18 year old girls. Just clarifying that I do believe some teens would look up in age a long ways. Just think its generally a bad idea. as per the discussion in the latin thread on age I really wonder how much its economics merely dictate what the tradition/culture must be.

[bcc_1_2]

Get a life.

I'll get right on that!

[Dave H]

there are some good points there. i've never visited FSU countries or even been to latin america but when I first started looking I checked out some pictures of tours.

Old guys dancing with young women while attractive mates in their late 20s and 30s and early 40s sit around. There were some creepy old dudes getting down with girls attractive enough to get my attention (well a few of them at least) if I had gone.

Hes right though. Leave the 18 to 24 year old singles for me. Because if you dont some guy in the states my age will probably end up fooling around with her.

I remember seeing one tour in an asian country where this really old 65 plus fat guy was grabbing at this tiny little 18 year old girl. Freaked me out. But then I saw some more normally looking couples and figured there are just a few dumbasses out there.

I figured that is where you are coming from...sorry money, experience, and a long tongue trumps youth every time.! It's a good thing I'm married or you you might see me out grabbing some hot 18-20 y/o chica's azz and sticking my tongue down her throat. Woops BTDT many times! I wouldn't have married a very young one, but for fun...    Someday the ship of young 'studs' will come in. 



Dave

[singlefather no more]

bcc,

Dude you are being a real jerk on the Asian forum.. From reading threads for the 2-3 last weeks all I read is you attacking Asian board posters about liking young women . As has been mentioned get a life..

From reading you like to stir up s*** on both boards..

The guys here on the Asian board are happy with their choices and we don't need your holy then our attitude about older guys and younger women ( be it 18 , 19 or 21).

This argument has gone on and on.. How about you agree to disagree and head back to your own board and let these Adults talk about Asian board topics.. Grow up..

You don't see any of these guys coming over to the Latin board and running down guys..

..

[Dave H]

bcc,

Dude you are being a real jerk on the Asian forum.. From reading threads for the 2-3 last weeks all I read is you attacking Asian board posters about liking young women . As has been mentioned get a life..

From reading you like to stir up s*** on both boards..

Hi SF,

I think perhaps bcc is really a 'Dudette,' better known as a FemnNazi!

Dave

[Bear]

WOW Dave!  I think you're right.

'ex' singlefather, I bet your one happy guy since he came over here to bother us.  Oh yeah I bet being married had a bit to do with it too .

The Bear Family

[Dave H]

It's not like we had a level playing field when I was in my 20's in the late 70's and 80's in Miami. That's life! Old guys had diamond pinky rings that cost far more than my house! I owned a surf board and an air mattress. These rich machos used to pass up and down the beach looking for hot young chicks, damn near running us over!